Do the other monotheistic religions, not just the Abrahamic ones but even religions like Zoroastrianism, worship demons like the idol worshipers or do they have a corrupted way of worshiping the same God as us?

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Christanon 03/09/18 (Fri) 04:56:15 d4c0e1 No.615503

Do the other monotheistic religions, not just the Abrahamic ones but even religions like Zoroastrianism, worship demons like the idol worshipers or do they have a corrupted way of worshiping the same God as us?

Christanon 03/09/18 (Fri) 05:36:41 68d6fa No.615510

John 14:6

Pray to Jesus or burn

Christanon 03/09/18 (Fri) 07:56:32 82bc0d No.615555

>>615503

Thats not a question one could really answer and it depends on how we define god as in how close their view on god has to be to ours.

Christanon 03/09/18 (Fri) 12:28:48 c0cc42 No.615621

>>615503

>not just the Abrahamic ones

There is only one Abrahamic religion: Christianity.

Christanon 03/09/18 (Fri) 13:41:30 a3f637 No.615643

>>615503

As regards at least Muslims, "corrupted way" is the answer given by the Catechism of St. Pius X, Catholic Encyclopedia, the current Catechism of the Catholic Church and the Second Vatican Council, which paraphrases and refers to St. Gregory VII, an 11th century pope who also held this to be true. Aquinas seems to have held it too. This was never an especially important issue so relatively little attention was paid to it, but this view has been, in the Catholic Church, considered to be the correct one.

Christanon 03/09/18 (Fri) 13:49:13 f96383 No.615645

Well, it implyes that evil is the equivalent of good in terms of power. So it puts the devil at the same level than God. Also it heavily influenced heresies like Manichaeism and others. I can say the same about Islam in other fields.

However I'm unsure about if every spirit on earth should be considered demons. Because there is the hypothesis of neutral spirits, those who neither aligned with God or the devil during the war in Heaven.

Christanon 03/09/18 (Fri) 13:53:16 8d2f6a No.615646

The only ones to believe in God are those who belong to the Church. The only ones to worship God are those who belong to the Church, and those who have separated themselves from the Church (ie, schismatics, heretics, and archeretics).

What schismatics get wrong is what God has commanded - how can you say you believe in God when you don't believe in what has been revealed by Him?

What heretics get wrong is something about God Himself, whether these errors concern the Father, the Son, or the Holy Spirit. But they still worship the God of Abraham.

Christanon 03/09/18 (Fri) 15:04:47 0a0737 No.615674

Zoros are in the same camp as people who are still jews. Christ fulfilled that shit.

Christanon 03/09/18 (Fri) 16:06:07 0ff623 No.615698

>>615645

>Well, it implyes that evil is the equivalent of good in terms of power. So it puts the devil at the same level than God.

How? How is it implied that the devil is equal in power to God if one believes that other monotheistic religions simply have a corrupted way of worshipping the same God as us? How are you arriving at B from A?

Christanon 03/09/18 (Fri) 20:46:48 f96383 No.615793

>>615698

I don't think they are necessarily corruptions. The whole dualist antagonistic rhetoric, like in Gnosticism, it's suspicious to me.

Christanon 03/09/18 (Fri) 21:54:47 0ff623 No.615824

>>615793

>The whole dualist antagonistic rhetoric, like in Gnosticism, it's suspicious to me

I'm sorry but I'm having trouble following you. What do you mean by a "dualist antagonistic rhetoric"? I think Christianity could be described as "dualistic" due to the fact that there's a clearly good being (God) and a clearly evil being (Satan) and these two beings are locked in war until the end when God wins. But then… I don't know how you can look at a religion and describe it as "antagonistic". Antagonistic to what exactly? What even is the rhetoric being commented on?

I can only vaguely guess that perhaps, since Gnosticism rejects the notion of a "Good being vs Evil being" that there's something you're talking about that does something similar, reminds you of Gnosticism in the aforementioned way and is ringing alarm bells but then I still don't see how that links back to your original post.

In fact, we might as well go back to your first post:

>Well, it implies that evil is the equivalent of good in terms of power

>it

What is "it" in this sentence?

Christanon 03/16/18 (Fri) 08:09:54 dd586a No.619461

>>615824

> >The whole dualist antagonistic rhetoric, like in Gnosticism, it's suspicious to me

> I'm sorry but I'm having trouble following you. What do you mean by a "dualist antagonistic rhetoric"? I think Christianity could be described as "dualistic" due to the fact that there's a clearly good being (God) and a clearly evil being (Satan) and these two beings are locked in war until the end when God wins.

Not right. You are seeing things through a gnostic lense. The enemy of God is not Satan. The enemy of God is death. Death has been thoroughly defeated already. Satan is just a sinner who refuses to be forgiven. Hardly worth your attention. Pity him. God is not locked in a war with anyone. He has already won.