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>>615192

Catholic. Come home to Rome.

>>615193

Question: Are the Orthodox mostly ethnic and localized to diasporas and some Southern and Eastern European countries?

>>615196

From my experience of visiting them, pretty much yes. Along with all their theological anarchy, inability to hold and ratify a council, etc. Even in small towns like the one I live in, the EOC is just Greeks that somehow ended up out in the middle of nowhere.

>>615198

It's nice and all but the inability to assimilate with them will definitely be a problem.

>>615198

This is not my experience in the slightest, but that aside, even if what you say is true, we hold the true faith and you do not.

What theological anarchy? What inability to hold and ratify a council? Let your lies expose you.

>>615198

>>615203

How do you both have the true faith?

>>615204

Weren't you interested in only Lutheranism and Catholicism?

The Orthodox will of course say that both are false religions.

>>615205

Orthodoxy as well, even more than Catholicism, but you catch my drift

Catholicism just seems attractive to me, after years of soul-searching, I seem to be giving in. There's no Orthodox Churches in my area.

>>615206

I don't think you can take any blame if there are simply no Orthodox Churches around you. At least Catholics have valid apostolic succession and valid sacraments, per the Slavic tradition anyway (the Greek tradition is that they don't).

>>615192

Which country?

Orthodox Lutheran (sounds like an oxymoron since it is dying out sadly, at least in Europe) is better then Catholicism in my opinion.

>>615196

I’ve visited many Orthodox churches all over America, I’ve never found the “muh ethnic club” argument to be true. It is true that there will be more Greeks/Russians/Arabs in any given Orthodox church than your average church but they’re not ethnic clubs. It’s like saying Catholic churches are Irish/Italian ethnic clubs.

To be fair, I haven’t been outside the US. I have heard it’s different in the UK but I have no experience hands on

I should also note I’m not Orthodox, but I have seriously considered conversion to it which is why I’ve visited them when I can. The common complaints I’ve heard just aren’t true

>>615217

Mexico, there's one WELS Lutheran Church, ironically. There's also one Orthodox Church but it's extremely far away to the point that's it might be inconvenient.

However faith knows no mileage.

>>615226

That's good to know

>>615217

Yeah, the LCMS and WELS are the only branches of it left that are worth it and they're dying in America.

I go to a Ukrainian Orthodox church that's full of nothing but Romanians and Armenians. Not a single Ukrainian as far as I can tell.

>>615192

Catholic if you want actual sacraments.

>>615192

Catholic. Do you want the Church founded by Christ or a church founded by Luther?

>>615425

Don't try to convert until you've gone to the Liturgy at least a few times. In other words… Go check by yourself.

I've never entered a non-denom church, sorry, but what you can expect from a Divine Liturgy is:

>my feet are hurting

>why is this so long?

>KYRIE ELEISON KYRIE ELEISON KYRIE ELEISOOOOON (tl note: kyrie eleison means lord have mercy)

>sensory overload because of the standing + the incense + the icons + the constant singing

>everything is a Bible quote

>have a coffee or a meal when it's over

Don't try to have communion.

At the end everybody goes for a blessing, you may go.

>>615431

Ah well in comparison to the church im currently been attending since i was it kids it's always been

>Communion at 9:30am

>move into main room

>Songs

>Prayer request

>greeting time

>Main sermon/event of what's being preached from missionary trips to into the bible

>Then finale song then church day, is over afterwards.

But, was gona ask Don't try and have communion? Why, is that?

>>615435

Oh, then if you want to know, schedule is usually:

>Orthros (also called Matins) at 9

>Hours at 9.45

>Divine Liturgy begins at 10. First part is the Liturgy of the Word (read the Bible, then sermon)

>At 11: Second part, Liturgy of the Faithful (communion)

>Ends at 12. Coffee hour or agape

Don't go for communion, because only Orthodox Christians in good standing can have communion.

>>615513

Lutherans have this, really stupid and theologically idiotic, idea that Bread is substantially both Christ and Bread i.e. when Christ took bread he basically said "This is bread and my Body"

>>615192

Orthodox

>>615196

No, they aren't. I sometimes attend a Greek parish and there's some Indians and Russians and an odd Arab but he might just be a Greek, I dunno.

Also, this.

>>615226

> It’s like saying Catholic churches are Irish/Italian ethnic clubs.

Which was the case until the 1960s. Ethnicities generally lived in their own neighbourhoods in America, so depending on what church you attended it, it would be a certain ethnic group of Catholics.

>>615192

>Daddy Howard on /christian/

Lol.