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05793e No.599998

Who /tolstoyan/ here?

Our existence is now so entirely in contradiction with the doctrine of Jesus, that only with the greatest difficulty can we understand its meaning. We have been so deaf to the rules of life that he has given us, to his explanations,—not only when he commands us not to kill, but when he warns us against anger, when he commands us not to resist evil, to turn the other cheek, to love our enemies; we are so accustomed to speak of a body of men especially organized for murder, as a Christian army, we are so accustomed to prayers addressed to the Christ for the assurance of victory, we who have made the sword, that symbol of murder, an almost sacred object (so that a man deprived of this symbol, of his sword, is a dishonored man); we are so accustomed, I say, to this, that the words of Jesus seem to us compatible with war. We say, "If he had forbidden it, he would have said so plainly." We forget that Jesus did not foresee that men having faith in his doctrine of humility, love, and fraternity, could ever, with calmness and premeditation, organize themselves for the murder of their brethren.

eb1513 No.600014

>>599998

What's with all the heretic jibba jabba? Can't you write like a normal human?


5af6fa No.600038

>>600014

what heresy?


385cf2 No.600041

>>600014

Something tells me that you have never read the bible if you call everything with big words 'heretic jibba jabba'


ca507d No.600046

>>600014

This

Reading is for nerds lolwz


813108 No.600050

>>599998

Didn’t Tolstoy make his own gospel book that denied the resurrection?


385cf2 No.600056

>>600050

I'm fairly certain that wasn't him.


a0ce86 No.600060

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>>599998

I used to be a hardcore Tolstoyan. I hate using buzzwords, but in a nutshell Tolstoy's interpretation of Christ's teachings is that you must be the cuckiest of cucks or else you aren't a true Christian.

Unless you're ok with being a cuck, I swear you do not want to go down that dark path, I ended up getting suicidal depression and going through a severe existential crisis.


813108 No.600063

>>600056

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gospel_in_Brief

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Gospel_in_Brief

It ends with

>And when Jesus had sucked the sponge he cried out in a loud voice: It is finished! Father, into Thy hands I resign my spirit! And letting his head droop he gave up the ghost.


385cf2 No.600065

>>600063

Pulled straight from the prologue

>In the full exposition, in the third part, everything in the Gospels is set down without any omissions. But in the present rendering the following are omitted: the conception and birth of John the Baptist, his imprisonment and death, the birth of Jesus, his genealogy, his mother's flight with him to Egypt; his miracles at Cana and Caperaum; the casting out of the devils; the walking on the sea; the blasting of the fig-tree; the healing of the sick; the raising of the dead; the resurrection of Christ himself, and the references to prophecies fulfilled by his life.

>Those passages are omitted in the present short exposition because, containing nothing of the teaching but only describing events that took place before, during, or after the period in which Jesus taught, they complicate the exposition. Those verses, however they may be understood, do not contain either contradiction or confirmation of the teaching. Their sole significance for Christianity was to prove the divinity of Jesus to those who did not believe in it. But for one who understands that a story of miracles is unconvincing, and who also doubts that the divinity of Jesus is asserted in his teaching, those verses drop away of themselves as superfluous.

He isn't denying the resurrection, he just didn't include it because the reader would already know about it and it doesn't contain teachings, just narrative.


df2164 No.600068

>>599998

>Jesus did not foresee…

Well, now I know never to read anything he ever writes.


385cf2 No.600070

>>600068

Jesus also didn't foresee the exact time of His second coming. Some things only the Father knows.


05793e No.600071

>>600060

>Jesus was a cuck


385cf2 No.600073

>>600060

Best ignore anything that Jesus said just so that I can not be a cuck then.


a0ce86 No.600074

>>600071

According to Tolst-soy


8a79f9 No.600449

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>>599998

Whatever his belief on the divinity of Christ might have been, I do agree with him on the doctrine of non-resistance to evil by force.


385cf2 No.601136

>>599998

'The kingdom of Heaven is within you' is a great starter on his theology


ca507d No.601165

>>600449

>I do agree with him on the doctrine of non-resistance to evil by force.

nani ?!?


8939aa No.601228

>>600074

>Tolst-soy

kek


cdf2c8 No.601237


cdf2c8 No.601238

>>600065

For Tolstoy, Jesus was a great prophet, nothing more, and there's no after-life.

It's interesting to note his last work was Hadji Murad, a novella basically glorifying the Muslim world view.




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