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Jesus

The living God of abraham, and of isaac, and of Jacob if you want to be very specific as stated in matthew 22:32.

YHWH

Mr. God

>>596940

From Middle English god, from Old English god (“deity”), originally neuter, then changed to masculine to reflect the change in religion to Christianity, from Proto-Germanic *gudą, from Proto-Indo-European *ǵʰutós (“invoked (one)”), from Proto-Indo-European *ǵʰewH- (“to call, to invoke”) or *ǵʰew- (“to pour”). Not related to the word good.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/god#English

https://www.etymonline.com/word/god

'God' should suffice gentile.

>>596990

Punishable by death according to Judaic law

https://youtu.be/FQ5YU_spBw0

Lord could also work.

To call on His name means the same as to call on Him, I'm pretty sure. God the Father doesn't have a human name, so you can either adress Him as Father (like in the Our Father prayer) or God. Yahweh is not a name, it just a word that describes who God is - if I'm not wrong, I think it means the one who was, is, and will be.

"God", "Father" or so on

but usually we should invoke Trinity: "In the Name of Father, Son and Holy Spirit" and so on.

There's also Latin deus which is related to Zeus and both derived from the Proto-Indo-European root word for the sky and heaven *dyew- (oblique stem diw-) compare Old English Tiw (Tyr) from from Proto-Germanic *Tīwaz.

Yeshua himself used El and surviving Aramaic speaking communities appear to use the same word along with Muslims and Arab Christians who use its Arabic cognate.

The Jews currently appear to use hashém (the name) and the earlier Adonai (Lord) to avoid pronouncing the sacred name. What no other Christian community aside from the Greeks appear to have thought of using is Greek Theos which even today is of

undetermined origin.

There's no way to tell if El or any other Hebrew or Semitic word hasn't had any nonmonotheistic, animist, or polytheistic usages in some prehistoric period.

>>597010

YHWH is apparently derived from the Semitic root verb *hw which means to be so YHWH could probably mean I am or I be (that I am/be), maybe I Am What Will Be or even I Will Be What Is.

>>597017

Implying this whole thread isn't bait

>>597022

one priest that I know said it translates as "being"(verb)

>>597078

To be, being pretty much.

Researching Matthew 6:10 in the Peshitta I found out the the verb used is a derivative of a root which is cognate to the Hebrew one.

So Néhwē seḇyánakh (ܢܶܗܘܶܐ ܨܶܒ݂ܝܳܢܳܟ݂) means Thy will shall be and reconstructions into Palestinian Aramaic have yielded something like "yíhwe".

http://biblehub.com/hebrew/1934.htm

http://dukhrana.com/lexicon/lexeme.php?adr=1:783&font=Estrangelo+Edessa&size=125%25

>>597002

>Punishable by death according to Judaic law

Not Biblical. Jews are so ridiculous about this ineffable name stuff that they won't even write God nevermind Yahweh; they spell it G_d.

>>596940

you don't need a name just pray, God knows.

>>596940

>The Roman Catholic Church's interpretation has been summarized in the Catechism of the Catholic Church. The interpretation is found in numbers 203-213.[9]

Some of the salient points are the following:

203

God revealed himself to his people of Israel by making his name known to them. A name expresses one's essential identity and the meaning of one's life. God has a name; he is not an anonymous force. To disclose one's name is to make oneself known to others; in a way it is to hand oneself over by becoming accessible, capable of being known more intimately and addressed personally.

206

In revealing his mysterious name, YHWH ("I AM HE WHO IS", "I AM WHO AM" or "I AM WHO I AM"), God says who he is and by what name he is to be called. This divine name is mysterious just as God is mystery. It is at once a name revealed and something like the refusal of a name, and hence it better expresses God as what he is - infinitely above everything that we can understand or say: he is the "hidden God", his name is ineffable, and he is the God who makes himself close to men.

207

God, who reveals his name as "I AM", reveals himself as the God who is always there, present to his people in order to save them.

210

After Israel's sin, when the people had turned away from God to worship the golden calf, God hears Moses' prayer of intercession and agrees to walk in the midst of an unfaithful people, thus demonstrating his love. When Moses asks to see his glory, God responds "I will make all my goodness pass before you, and will proclaim before you my name 'the LORD' [YHWH]." Then the LORD passes before Moses and proclaims, "YHWH, YHWH, a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness"; Moses then confesses that the LORD is a forgiving God.

211

The divine name, "I Am" or "He Is", expresses God's faithfulness: despite the faithlessness of men's sin and the punishment it deserves, he keeps "steadfast love for thousands"… By giving his life to free us from sin, Jesus reveals that he himself bears the divine name: "When you have lifted up the Son of man, then you will realize that 'I AM'."

212

…In God "there is no variation or shadow due to change."…

213

The revelation of the ineffable name "I AM WHO I AM" contains then the truth that God alone IS. The Greek Septuagint translation of the Hebrew Scriptures, and following it the Church's tradition, understood the divine name in this sense: God is the fullness of Being and of every perfection, without origin and without end. All creatures receive all that they are and have from him; but he alone is his very being, and he is of himself everything that he is.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_that_I_Am

Yeshua

>>597523

Well putting aside any antics rejecting Jesus' Jewish name, the very name itself along with others is a testament to the observance of that mandate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theophoric_name#Yahweh

>>597533

This is the best thing I've heard all day.

>>597575

Not to mention Jesus isn't mentioned using it either in the New Testament rather he just uses El (God) and "father". Contemporary Jews might seem to be misguided in that regard. I think some Greek translations used Hebrew letters for the sacred name and I do know that in one of the Dead Sea scrolls they use a Paleo-Hebrew script for instead of a Babylonian one which is otherwise used in the rest of that manuscript.

His name is iesous christos, its right there in the new testament as being the highest name above every other (Philippians 2:9)

>inb4 some jewish nonsense about YHWHHWHW or YESHUOA

no. no and no.

T

>>597579

http://studybible.info/ABP_GRK/Ezra%202:2

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/ezra/2-2.htm

I would transcribe it as Iesou in NT translations eliminating any surplus suffixation.

>>597579

His name was Yesleij Christovic and he was a proud Serb.

>>596940

YHWH

Yahweh

Yehowah

Jehovah

what is it in you classical bible, anon ?

in France, we have Yahvé and Jéhovah.

God understand all languages. So it's ok if it's not the correct hebraic pronunciation. But use his name !

>>597681

Mostly The LORD and God. Aren't those classify as titles though?

>>596940

When I pray to the Father or the Triune God I usually use the equivalent of "Lord" in my language. I call the Son Jesus or Christ and the Holy Spirit Holy Spirit.

>>598841

>When I pray to the Father or the Triune God I usually use the equivalent of "Lord" in my language

Uh, why not use "Father"?

big daddy g

heavenly homeboi

Jesus

>>596940

Jehovah

In the name of the living God, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

>>597002

Yeah but the jews are nutty about why you shouldn't say God's name. I mean look at their stupid myth about Lilith using it as a spell to fly away from Adam.