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de9ccc No.592965

I've browsed Christian before and grew up the child of a protestant minister, but fell away from the faith as a youth after getting in trouble for asking questions about the faith (that have been answered in some of the threads here, thanks) or expressing doubt.

It's difficult to explain how I feel, but I wonder if my experience of reality is just fundamentally different than the one required to believe. I've seen some of the explanations for the faith given here and read some Aquinas/Lewis, but I still cannot believe. It's not that I don't want to, but there's some sort of mental disconnect. It seems too good to be true, among other things, but the more I think about the vastness of infinity, the less I think there's any reason for there to be a "way out" or a reason anything matters.

I don't harbor any dislike toward Christians or members of any faith, but Christianity in particular is the only religion that this sort of odd sensation encompasses, like my mind just won't allow it to be entertained. Even religions I have less reason to consider are humored.

172d64 No.592970

>>592965

It's the truth, so demons and bad people who don't want you to be saved are trying to seed your thoughts with doubt and direct you to falsehoods. Lewis covers how they go about this in The Screwtape Letters.


bf4869 No.592971

>>592965

A disclaimer before the discussion begins:

Don't actually save danger dog. It's superstitious bullcrap forbidden by the Lord.


e0b5ca No.593002

>>592971

What if I just saved it because I find it amusing ? This is satire, but the childish logic it use is really cute


5eadaf No.593033

>>592965

I feel like this as well.

Even so much so that when visiting a church or reading something profound about the fate I turn my head.

Perhaps it is shame for own sins and a rejection of hope. At least, that's what I considered.

Anyhow, keep on going.

Turn that head time and time again and in time I truly believe God guides us to acceptance of the truth.


ae7d02 No.593040

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>thing doesn't sound depressing so thing probably isn't true

i wish i could empathize with what you're saying, i've heard this expressed many times before.

all of the stumbling blocks you've mentioned are emotional rather than intellectual.

can't really argue against your feelings.

what you need is a hug rather than apologetics, probably from your dad.


f0e0b4 No.593044

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

OP, only a little over a month ago, I was, as astray, as you are now. Also raised in faith and abandoned it in my youth because I thought I knew it all. In my obsession for rational reasons and thoughts for everything, I second-guessed (almost) everything and deconstructed myself as well as perception further and further. Ironically, I found reasons to believe again through JewTube, 8chins and, most importantly, through the realization that I wasted my most important years of development with denying the truth that was - and still is, yet flawed - ingrained in my character and was also layed in front of me [that is The Bible].

See it that way: The Bible is a historical documentation from the creation of Earth until the mission of the apostles, including a revelation of the end times. Biblical history complements perfectly secular history, as well as its predictions of the modern era. Giving my guess, you abandoned your faith because your knowledge and thoughts have been poisoned through Talmudic indoctrination, which rewrote history a great deal, hence nobody shall blame you. Now, you have the offer to either accept or reject the truth, if you have read this far. In embed related you'll find a video that summarizes historical events with The Bible and secular history books, and our and the world's relation to the descendents of Abraham and the Jews. Either watch it or research on your own to get rational arguments for The Bible, for Christianity, or dwell in ignorance.


f0e0b4 No.593048

>>593044

What I forgot to mention is that you also should read The Bible because it is the history book that was given by God, unless, of course you own only a corrupted translation.


c1bac2 No.593511

>>593048

can you explain pl


9945f5 No.593512

>>592965

>Does anyone else feel like there's some force preventing them from believing?

Demons and Damned/Wicked Humans


d39afb No.593520

>>592965

Its called evolved.


48cf0a No.593523

>>592965

Its called IQ


47971e No.595001

>>592965

You must subconciously sense all its intrinsic problems that people have had to work around for 2000 years and counting, spawning a whole host of denominations because of it.

Heck, it started with the new testament.


863140 No.595002

>>592965

Have you read Kierkegaard?


481d4f No.595021

>>593002

That's fine, I did too. Danger dog is op


de9ccc No.595029

>>593523

What memery is this? My IQ isn't deficient, but there's still far higher-scoring people that believe.

>>595001

Possibly.

>>595002

I have not.


863140 No.595033

>>595029

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/kierkegaard/#Reli

Kierkegaard might interest you, then :-)


de9ccc No.595455

>>595033

Interesting read, thanks.


de9ccc No.598206

>>593040

You might have a point. My entire family is very (Methodist) religious, and my friends are Catholic and Baptists, though most of them are in their early 20's now and in the "agnostic" camp at the moment.

It just feels like I can't hop back into the religious camp for the life of me, even though I'm absolutely miserable as an atheist.




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