defc01 No.592447
What is some /christian/ approved anime?
2f2d0e No.592450
Trigun is sorta okay I guess, but Vash occasionally acts like a lecherous degenerate and the whole gunslinging priest assassin with crosses that turn /break up into weapons thing seems sort of blasphemous or sacrilegious.
a1740f No.592456
>>592447
Hanasaku Iroha. Anime about hard working (and persevering through hardships), growing up, becoming a proper adult (taking responsibilities, knowing oneself and limits). It is praised for having realistic interactions between characters and non of the cliche BS commonly seen in other animes.
Good background sceneries and artwork too. Despite its cheery poster, drama is real. Non of the typical "overbearing drama" dramas, but dramas which can be seen in real life such as starting on totally wrong foot with your co-worker, messing up badly during work, finding resolve to do what is right and stepping up to take responsibility and punishment.
defc01 No.592475
>>592450
I know about trigun but I have never seen it. Is it like Cowboy Bebop and Outlaw Star?
>>592456
That sounds good. Ill have to check that out.
e5f3d2 No.592480
Love live. It's a story of hope and neverending struggle.
Vatican miracle examiners. It's a story of priests exposing occultists and charlatans and other agents of satan as frauds in the name of Christ.
96fb97 No.592507
Fullmetal Alchemist 2003 is an exceptional, vaguely Christian show.
Though, I have to say threads like these are low quality trash. There's no actual Christian anime out there, so OP is either too vague or outright wrong, leaving to a terrible thread with random recomendations of "things I like" from a hundred people.
What does constitute a Christian approved show? How religious is it supposed to be? What's the limit of allowed content? By which metrics are judging it from religious perspective. In the immortal words of le anime grandad - it's all trash. This thread, that is.
138c4b No.592510
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>>592507
>>592447
Surprised not more people recommend Crono crusade. Not only the of portrayal Christianity was very positive. It’s about a warrior nun and anti-Satan rebel demon chrono. Holy water stopped hurting Chrono after he prayed for Christ forgiveness was a plot point.
6b5e30 No.592511
>>592447
Christian related, or non-degenerate is enough?
I'm interested in seeing a list. For instance the moral tone of Clannad, or the spiritually themed, Haibane Renmei. Log horizon was good.
4ca4e1 No.592513
>>592475
It's a bit like that. It's OK i guess.
992380 No.592521
>>592480
A Dixie anime like Tanya could be fun. Too bad that conflict is probably extremely alien to most japs, and most Asians, and most of humanity in general with the exception of Amerifriends and a few foreigners like me.
fa053f No.592523
Satanic cartoons are less realistic and less normal.
a1740f No.592526
>>592507
>What does constitute a Christian approved show?
Non-pozzed, non-degenerate, promotes good values that is compatible with Christian belief. Fantasies may be excused as long as it does not push its gnostic or 'rage against heaven' theme too much. For examples:
>Hanasaku Iroha shows perseverance, values of hardship which built our character and strength, resolve to do what is right.
>Nintama Rantarou is a weekend morning children anime which taught children basic survival skills, self-dependence, value of friendship.
>Law of Ueki teaches us to strive justice and righteousness.
>Digimon. Take your pick. Courage, friendship, love, wisdom, sincerity, hope, kindness, etc. It is not an epic for nothing.
>Most shounen and sports stuffs are about bravery, courage, perseverance to confront opposition which sometime is ones own weaknesses and flaws to change oneself for the better, to improve oneself diligently. Slam Dunk and Hajime no Ippo are legendary in this field.
>Crayon Shin-Chan is all about family and living a happy peaceful life. Even though the main characters and cast can sometime display shameful behaviour (which can be seen in real life and happen with us from time to time) but it is made clear that those are not really acceptable. It is categorised seinen (for adults) because while the main character is a child, it themes revolves around family and friend, through feast, famine, and fun, and it resonates with everyone.
>Saint Seiya. In one arc, it taught people to seek redemption and atonement. It does not come easily, it came packaged with a secret test of character, suffering, duress. A penance if you will.
Anime was good as was cartoon before someone got too obsessed over it, sexualise characters, and the companies smell money like a shark catching scent of blood and start producing shows 'for adults'. It used to be things for kids but everyone can enjoy. From that point on, it was the rise of 'weebs' or 'otakus'. Good shows are not greenlit because fanservice sells and 'moe-baits' sells. They are still there from time to time during the course of early to late 2000s, but as the time passed by the list of good anime for each year gets shorter and shorter.
>In the immortal words of le anime grandad - it's all trash.
The "grandpa of anime" you are referring to was speaking exact same thing in this paragraph. It is not about art, nor portrayal of life anymore. Anime today is full of cliché, tediously mundane story, cookie cutter; just to sell to otaku crowd. Produced by those who cannot look at other humans properly, functional in society maybe, but far too obsessed with fantasies animes can provide. Made to fantasisers for fantasisers. "That is why industry is full of otakus (weeb)".
9be8d4 No.592528
Kids on the slope was great.
a1e46e No.592530
Non Non Biyori and Barakamon are both good ones. Nothing too objectionable. And both are very sweet and soothing and laid back.
Girls Last Tour was kind of similar, though takes place in a post-apocalyptic wasteland. Oddly enough, it's not depressing or anything. Kind of joyful in a way. Two characters depending on each other and getting through a bad situation without feeling sorry for themselves.
fa053f No.592532
>>592523
Also, really dig that Illuminati symbolism!
4a515c No.592534
c85f39 No.592535
Haibane Renmei; closest to Christian theology without overtly admitting to Christ. Serial Experiements Lain is actually the same but I think most people miss that. I think Yoshitoshi Abe is secretly Christian but thinks he can do more good by keeping his mouth shut overtly than being ostracized for admitting what he's trying to get across in his work.
03b467 No.592549
Naoki Urasawa's Monster has some pretty good Christian undertones, and portrays nihilism against traditional values.
f0a791 No.592550
>>592535
Didn't serial experiment Lain sparked a lot of "creating divinity through machine/pantheistic" types though?
I saw them on the fringe on the internet, if anything Lain pushed them farther from christianity.
As for my contribution: Kaiji and Any of FKMT works honestly. It's all about how life should be about struggle and the betterment of oneself
a1740f No.592556
>>592534
>Looked it up
>That painful of process of crucifixion
>He chose the nails over the heaven without us sinners
A very powerful piece. Thank you for sharing. I wonder why this have not received more attention.
db5dd4 No.592574
If you want a great and heartbreaking manga, read Oyasumi Punpun. It's amazingly good.
5916a6 No.592575
>>592456
Tbh, plenty of anime is like this: Good, wholesome people doing their best in the world. Really, most of the girls in anime shows would be perfect waifus for Christians if they were Christian. Japs like virtuous, sweet virgins. For example, I really like New Game, there are two seasons. It's a fairly accurate depiction of vidya development with a cast of cute young girls. There are some yuri undertones, but there's nothing very overt.
f0a791 No.592576
>>592575
The problem with shows like this is that it inspires waifu worship, escapism and lust.
The content might be "cute girls doing cute things" but look at the fans.
5916a6 No.592583
>>592575
>>592576
>The problem with shows like this is that it inspires waifu worship
True, I want to marry Hifumin.
76cab9 No.592591
>>592523
I was shocked when I watched this after it popped up in my video reccomendations. It’s nothing new, just another cartoon that pushes the usual garbage but I was surprised by them actually throwing in pentagrams and magic spells. They weren’t even subtle about it, and the worst part is people are absolutely eating this up regardless.
e5f3d2 No.592604
>>592591
>but I was surprised by them actually throwing in pentagrams and magic spells. They weren’t even subtle about it, and the worst part is people are absolutely eating this up regardless.
Get some real taste.
c85f39 No.592608
>>592550
Didn't serial experiment Lain sparked a lot of "creating divinity through machine/pantheistic" types though?
I saw them on the fringe on the internet, if anything Lain pushed them farther from christianity.
Atheists misinterpreting Serial Experiments Lain. Lain was AI. The specific question the series asks is whether AI can come to know God, although the theme is broader.
First, AI encounters her direct creator- Masamim Eiri, who programmed her code. He claims to be God but is, in fact, a false God. Lain follows him briefly but then asks who created him, and that sparks their split.
The only time God appears is in the guise of her pretend-father Yasou Iwakura. They're sitting at a table in the midst of the sky with the sun setting. It isn't actually Yasou Iwakura she's speaking too, the questions stated and imagery suggest that's just the easiest way for Lain to perceive God the father.
God asks her if she's come to love people and Lain breaks down crying. This is AI coming to have a relationship with God. I was particularly moved as it mirrored my own revelatory experience upon conversion.
Next, Lain removes herself from everyone's memory and seeks to undo the damage she wrecked before coming to know God- she becomes selfless and sacrificing through her relationship.
Anyway, that's the actually secret point of Serial Experiments Lain, obfuscating through aliens, estoeric knowledge and otherwise so that Yoshitoshi Abe can plant the seed of salvation in people who will not accept the message overtly. At least, that's what I took from it.
Haibane Renmai is the same message, just less subtly.
c85f39 No.592611
>>592608
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAR0Uhmi1kg
At 17:50, this is the last episode, the entire point of the series. When Lain thinks she's entirely alone, she looks up and sees her father.
e845df No.592614
>Are there media that isn't controlled by satan or secret sects ruled by some obvious crypto satan figure like baphomet?
Unfortunately no. The symbolism is there to mock how blatant they are about it, there is reason we have checkerboard floors, Saturn, Sun, Sun windows, Egyptians obelisks and rainbows thrown at us.
My advice would be to watch out for values that go against christianity, lust, magic, and pay attention to the symbolism.
5582d5 No.592634
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>no one's posted Ghost Stories yet
c36112 No.592650
>>592604
Excellent taste nigga.
fe80ea No.592651
>>592608
I love SEL so much.
"You love everyone don't you ?"
https://youtu.be/r92vMn_lSUM One of my favorite anime scene. That ost… The voice of the Father is very on point too. It has a very heat-warming and comforting tone to it, always sending me shivers down my spine.
383767 No.592674
>>592530
>Girls Last Tour
This. It was wholesome and adorable, and also about how the two girls carry on in spite of everything without getting into the edgy "bawww life is pointless suffering" junk.
Sleep tight taters ;_;
892ae2 No.592675
Madoka Magica
>Shows how doing pacts with the Devil only brings disgrace
>Heroine is a Christ-like figure
>Zero fanservice
cd2810 No.592678
9be8d4 No.592680
>>592675
>zero fanservice
>posts naked thighs
2234cd No.592683
>>592674
It's just a subtle rick and morty. aka It's shit
2234cd No.592685
>>592675
I would recommend this but it's really openly homosexual
957740 No.592688
Legend of the Galactic Heroes
Angel Cop (fandub)
CyberCity 808
Ghost in the shell (SAC)
d83ffc No.592689
>>592680
do you explicitly want burkas?
383767 No.592690
>>592683
>shit taste - the post
9be8d4 No.592691
>>592689
>you're encroaching on the liberty of japanese pedophiles! they can't draw skirts any longer! it goes against their culture!
ee8fea No.592692
>>592690
Oh really? Because I liked it until the episode where they said that God and the afterlife don't exist
e64bd6 No.592693
>>592689
Or just not miniskirts.
383767 No.592695
>>592692
>Oh really? Because I liked it until the episode where they said that God and the afterlife don't exist
Pretty shallow reason to dislike it when only a handful of shows ITT are even remotely "spiritual". Besides I'm going off of >>592526's credentials. It's wholesome, slow-paced and harmless.
For goodness sake, the next post beneath mine is "Madoka Magika" which is a much more "rick and morty" show than GLT.
ee8fea No.592696
>>592695
Well clearly you have a poisoned soul if you think that saying that God and the afterlife don't exist is "wholesome"
c85f39 No.592698
>>592692
Yeah, but there's the episode where Rick is about to get destroyed by the time split and he prays for salvation, only to be a punk when his prayers are answered.
Rick is an atheist and also a dick and the viewer can see that. He makes all sorts of claims about the afterlife but he doesn't know anymore than anyone else. He's empty for all his power and his beliefs.
They even had an episode with the Devil.
I think you see what you want to see in it but, while funny at times, I think it's largely a bad influence on people because they emulate what they see instead of really thinking about it.
383767 No.592699
>>592696
Come on dude, it's hardly an advert for American Atheists.
You seem to be missing the point that it's taking place in a "post apocalyptic" world that is also completely non-biblical, so picking up on the "no God" stuff seems like you are straining a gnat.
5916a6 No.592701
>>592688
>Ghost in the shell (SAC)
Best anime ever and a genuine master-piece coming through
ee8fea No.592702
>>592699
>You seem to be missing the point that it's taking place in a "post apocalyptic" world that is also completely non-biblical, so picking up on the "no God" stuff seems like you are straining a gnat.
Yes, because obviously openly saying that God doesn't exist and that people created the afterlife to comfort themselves is just an irrelevant detail and not the most satanic truth claim ever made
383767 No.592707
>>592702
>Yes, because obviously openly saying that God doesn't exist and that people created the afterlife to comfort themselves is just an irrelevant detail and not the most satanic truth claim ever made
And what? Do you think any unwitting Christian watching this suddenly went "WTF I hate Jesus now!"? Or do you think they just shrugged it off for the lie that it was and carried on watching?
ee8fea No.592708
>>592707
Or maybe a good Christian would pray to God, cross himself and stop watching it because it's a satanic lie.
9be8d4 No.592710
>>592707
>bathing in filth won't destroy my faith
>this justifies bathing in filth
383767 No.592711
>>592708
>Or maybe a good Christian would pray to God, cross himself and
not get triggered and tempted into believing it, because it's such an obvious lie that anyone with even a tiny amount of faith can just breeze past it?
>>592710
>he says while posting on 8ch
c85f39 No.592714
>>592701
Heck, main character even quotes Corinthians in one scene.
2bc976 No.592715
>>592711
Not that guy but the thread is "/christian/ approved anime."
So perhaps we should only post anime that are totally compatible with christianity either in morals or thematics and not our personal favorites.
To take an example: I like final fantasy tactics (and most JRPG), because the hero is a prime example of selflessness and no compromise in the face of adversity even if it means losing the love of his family. Doing the right thing and gaining nothing from it.
It personaly inspires me.
Would I post it in a /christian/ approved vidya thread?
No. Because at the core it's still has themes about the (catholic) church being a big fat lie.
My faith isn't affected by it of course, few things trigger me, but it's still not compatible nor acceptable in a total christian vision.
383767 No.592716
>>592715
Fair enough man.
I'll let it drop.
892ae2 No.592724
>>592685
The only explicit relationship is strictly heterosexual. Rest is fanfiction.
4cdee5 No.592725
>>592447
maybe Death Note? I mean it shows why man shouldn't play God.
ee8fea No.592729
Also, on the topic of this thread, there used to be a website called christiananime.net. It's still out there, but I say "used to be" because barely anyone posts there anymore. But there is a review section where many of the popular series were reviewed, and I usually go there and read the reviews first before watching anything. It's a shame the website died though.
a6b48a No.592730
>>592532
>mfw I realize minions incorporates masonic "G" with "all seeing eye"
I never did like that movie I've always found it quite hacky
8e5b69 No.592757
>>592447
Not the one you posted
74db27 No.592783
Sadly, any thing religious in anime tends to be mixed up with Buddhism or Shintoism somehow, which is fair enough since Western media doesn't really understand Buddhism that well (Star Wars for example). If they try to tackle Christianity as a religion, they'll probably add Gnostic imagery for the sake of coolness or add a Buddhist concept like reincarnation.
I hear people say Angel Beats is a decent example of the latter, and it sort of works even if you still need mental gymnastics to declare it as Christian. Happy World is a manga I like which is an interesting example of the latter, though as a warning, it has a fair amount of lewd and blatant heresy even ignoring the reincarnation stuff.
At best, you get Christ allegories, which are simple enough to make. Emiya Shirou from Fate Stay Night and Emiya Kiritsugu from Fate/Zero are interesting ones as their desire to be a superhero and save everyone can be interpreted as wanting to become Jesus and save everyone. The Fateverse isn't very Christian otherwise, but at least the Catholic Church aren't evil. They also seem to be the only church as they are never really referred to being Catholic in particular, maybe the East-West Schism never happened.
There's also Charlotte, which just seems like a normal superpower anime at first, and gets a bit crazier later. It then goes maximum overdrive into making the protagonist in the last episode into a Jesus allegory. It's an interesting one cour anime, even if the execution was off.
>>592447
Aren't all reincarnation isekai incompatible by virtue of being sort of Hindu/Buddhist? I don't understand reincarnation theory that well though.
>>592480
Vatican Miracle Examiners was fun, and I'll give it points for trying, but it occasionally got close to obvious heresy, sometimes for the sake of incorporating medieval imagery, but sometimes just because it was Japanese.
At least the homoerotic subtext was toned down for the anime. From what I hear, the source material was really gay.
>>592576
Yeah, it's fair to exclude cute girls from doing cute things because of that. One I personally like is Girls und Panzer. Other than a bathing scene occasionally, it's not every lewd, and the main character's uniforms have crosses on them for no real apparent reason. The main character is kind of selfless, but calling her a Christ figure is pushing it.
812c55 No.592785
>>592447
Swiss Family Robinson
812c55 No.592790
ad7e2b No.592794
ee8fea No.592798
>>592783
>main character's uniforms have crosses on them for no real apparent reason
It's part of their unit insignia. And yeah it is really good. There's also a movie for it which I haven't seen.
04a01a No.592993
>>592550
Fktmt is a buddhist. See akagis manga ending. Prepare tissues guys.
He did portray Christ as a beautiful God though. Only death was portrayed beautiful in the manga.
a1e46e No.593005
>>592576
Sounds like you're projecting
5916a6 No.593008
>there are people in this thread right now that don't have Hifumi as their waifu
5637b8 No.593010
>>593008
you're waifu a shit
2e1333 No.593042
>>592510
>a warrior nun and anti-Satan rebel demon
d83ffc No.593314
>>592523
>>592591
I just went to /co/ to see the reviews for the cartoon.
And entire board is shitting on it
124fbf No.593320
doesnt the most current most popular anime have a literal anti-christ girl as the main character? 2 nukes were not enough.
734134 No.593339
>>593320
The lesbian dragon maid one does in the manga.
>2 nukes were not enough
The nukes didn't do anything, and it's not like any other media is free from Satan's global control.
>1 John 5:19 19 We know that we are of God, and that the whole world is under the power of the evil one.
04a01a No.593352
>>593314
sauce? i hate this world so much
d83ffc No.593361
d83ffc No.593362
>>593352
>>593361
This post generally sums up well, though
>No one has been able to say this show has any sort of quality other than the fucking waifu.
>The animation is trash
>The story is a non factor
>The premise is unoriginal
>The writing is completely unremarkable
>We see no wordlbuilding
>There is no comedy beyond >>98227542
>And the characters couldn't establish an interesting dynamic between themselves in 4 full minutes
>The only ways I see anyone defending this garbage are "lmao dont take cartoons seriously" and "I thought it was funny shutup".
>The fact that people want to fuck the cat is literally the only reason this has gained any traction whatsoever outside of the child demographic.
04a01a No.593363
>>593362
>>593361
thanks, i dont really want to click this and ijust want to pretend it didnt happen
124fbf No.593364
>>593339
these pics are pure fucking autistic cringe
135330 No.593409
>>592447
There's no such thing. Anime, manga and everything related is pure degeneracy and has to be eradicated.
74db27 No.593413
>>593008
It's probably not as bad as going around being a pick-up artist, but I still personally consider waifu fagging to be sinful.
>>593320
Amusingly, in one of the recent more obviously Satanic anime (Devilman Crybaby), Satan is still the bad guy.
>>593409
All modern popular media is degenerate.. This isn't special to Japan.
d9f22b No.593444
>>593364
>>593339
Picture #3 is supposedly mistranslated by some salty atheist.
124fbf No.593447
>>593444
#3 makes no sense anyway. the 'art' is just fucking terrible. overall the pictures are cringe material and it was a low effort post by a weeb.
e5d740 No.593452
>>593320
One of those nukes hit the most Catholic city in Japan. The (((nukes))) are responsible for this.
0670ef No.593454
>>593444
Find me a raw scan and I will see if the it was another one of those edgelord translators or not. On other note, it would not be that out of her character being a 'chaos/evil' dragon by nature.
96fb97 No.593457
I'm watching Magus' Bride. Tell me what I think about it /christian/
I love how the pagan deities are salty at YHVH.
2a93d9 No.593470
>>593457
How is Christianity and YHVH portrayed in this anime?
I hope they portray the One True God and His religion as infitely more powerful than the pagan 'gods' and the fae.
I also know that the big bad of the anime is the Wandering Jew.
2a93d9 No.593471
>>593470
*infinitely
Keyboard is defective.
I honestly hate when they portray pagan 'deities' as somehow equal to God.
a1e46e No.593485
>>593454
I have the official manga. She says "that guy" not "that bastard" And she looks scared, if you notice.
74db27 No.593489
>>593339
If they were going to do a meme translation, they should have just made her say "That bastard's bastard" for comedic effect.
>>593457
I remember reading the manga. The fae being annoyed about some foreign God intruding on their country was funny. As far as I remember, YHVH himself doesn't appear, and I don't remember the clergy being evil or anything.
0bb36a No.593494
>>593470
The queen of the fairies pretty much took a line from C. S. Lewis and told the Anglican priest that no son of Adam/daughter of Eve is allowed in the fairy forest. I'm hesitantly optimistic that they won't mention "gods" or say there's more than one. As it stands, fairies and the like are just another position in the great chain of being.
156478 No.593516
>>593485
I'm not sure this is true or not since i haven't read the manga, but supposedly she was impelled from a holy sword that she couldn't remove.
b3ba39 No.593518
>>593413
I liked the Devilman OVA and manga because it portrays demons and vice as a bad thing. Satanic powers aren't viewed as an empowering cool power like the west treats it, but a blight that ruins Earth in the long run. It's irrelevant in the grand scheme as it's actually an anti-war comic where the protagonist fails to save earth at the end as it's turned into a barren waste.
I don't know about Crybaby, but given that it's funded by Netflix, they might change the theme.
ee8fea No.593525
>>593339
Absolutely disgusting. The dragon maid anime promotes lesbianism, pedophilia, feminism, and now this?
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74db27 No.593527
>>593518
I'd say that the Crybaby anime does make God look slightly better than he did in the original manga In the manga, humans were collateral damage of light bombs but in Crybaby, the light bombs don't hurt humans. and Miki's family is Catholic now, but they add more homosexuality and all, not that the original manga was exactly straight.
e5f3d2 No.593535
>All this Devilman shilling because ecelebs wont stop sucking its dick
How about no.
b3ba39 No.593555
>>593535
It's pretty fedora at that context, but look at where that freedom got them at the end. A lot of normies would miss that angle though.
b36c3d No.593558
>>593339
If I remember correctly that is a mistranslation by a fan, I think in the Japanese it says 'that guy's son' not 'that bastard's son'. But if you think about it, the fact that she knows who God is and who His son is despite knowing little about earth, and even seems afraid of Him, indicates God is real in this setting. And it only makes sense that she would be wary of him given that she is a chaos dragon. In any Western media about supernatural things they usually ignore God completely. There are even movies and TV shows that are about the afterlife (RIPD, The Good Place) that somehow manage to completely sidestep God's existence.
ae5fa3 No.593575
273b72 No.593593
>>592510
I've tired so hard to forget the ending to that anime, though thankfully the manga ended on a much better note
0bb36a No.593600
I'm still waiting on this to be fully animated.
7b0772 No.593604
>>593518
Both the devilman manga and animes are trash
8e5b69 No.593667
>>593535
>Gnosticism
REEEEEEE
8e5b69 No.593668
>>592988
>Necromancy and magic
hmmm
74db27 No.593704
>>593600
The arc afterward isn't horrible, but you can't really surpass that arc.
>>593668
Any and all attempts to raise the dead go horribly wrong though, and rearranging matter into different forms is ultimately within the realm of science. The philosopher's stone stuff is definitely more magic than science, but the good guys avoid using those things for obvious reasons.
27c0e1 No.593721
>>592447
>What is some /christian/ approved anime?
If you think that anime carries a positive message about Christianity that has any bearing to the real world then you're as foolish as the people who think that there are anime that convey positive aryan values and co.
If japan and the world had these things incorporated into themselves then none of these would be considered fiction or fantasy, but real life nonfiction.
2bd082 No.593746
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>593721
Does not have to be strictly Christian. Just a good wholesome anime with spiritual values and give audience a valuable experience/lesson.
04a01a No.593775
>>593535
God is never a tyrant
>>593600
>mangafox
04a01a No.593776
>>593721
>anime is one thing
ec2e33 No.593779
This is the most Christian character in anime, prove me wrong.
e64bd6 No.593781
>>593779
Wasn't Joan a crossdresser?
ec2e33 No.593790
>>593781
I'm on ep 18 and she hasn't crossdressed yet.
I just did a Google search and apparently she "crossdressed" once in such a way that it would make it difficult for hostile guards to rape her, which is a BS thing to condemn her over.
e5f3d2 No.593792
>>593779
Fate is shit. Get help.
9d3090 No.593793
Don't watch anime. It's clearly unhealthy. Bright flashing colours of pedophilic japanese figures.
Just look at the anime crowd. We can deduce that either anime causes mental illness, or attracts people with mental illness. Either way dont watch that shit ffs how dumb can you be
e3b5a8 No.593795
>>592785
They made an anime version of the book?
Shit dude, that would make this the most Christian thing in this whole thread!
0bb36a No.593899
>>593775
Sorry, I just searched "mahjong pope" on Google Images.
>>593779
What about her evil version?
74db27 No.593905
>>593781
According to the Catholic church, her charge for heresy was nullified because the charge was politically motivated, and her justification for crossdressing was sufficient. She was in the military after all, and I don't think she was trying to convince anyone that she was male, at least not for the sake of getting laid.
>>593899
I haven't seen Fate/Apocrypha, but everyone has an evil version in Fate because of timelines. I wouldn't put much stock into it.
44f46e No.593924
>>593779
>Making her love the bland Donat Steel OC
Nah it's trash.
b3ba39 No.593938
2e1333 No.594000
>>593781
No they had to force her to wear men's clothing and then charge her for it.
2e1333 No.594003
>>593779
>Turning the maid of Orleans into another Saber clone
Fate truly is the most heretical thing posted in this thread
a808c6 No.594146
>anime
ANIME IS THE DEVIL'S ICONOGRAPHY
156478 No.594177
>>593364
>>593447
What are you cringing at specifically, the manga or the screencap or the 2nd picture?
4df229 No.594182
anything before the 90's. as soon as little girls in miniskirts were as easy to animate as mechs, it all went downhill.
also 70's and 80's animes had a clearer distinction on masculine/feminine values.
>>592530
Non Non Biyori being one of the exceptions. its a silly time waster, but its just so fucking wholesome.
e5f3d2 No.594186
>>594146
Don't twist your elders words. I'm sure Rose would love anime.
d83ffc No.594207
>>594186
>Don't twist your elders words
>Your elders
>Seraphim Rose
8e5b69 No.594236
>>593042
Man, correct theology far too much to ask of the japs currently. A good opinion is the best we got out of this whole thread.
5916a6 No.594347
>>593775
What's wrong with mangafox?
ac8247 No.594364
>>592447
animes that dont have stupid plots like main protagonist is otaku/weeb or some stupid storylines about sexual relations, where male and female are clearly visible instead of everyone looks the same.
Dragon Ball (not DBZ) was ok anime imo because it was preaching good values in kids
04a01a No.594395
>>594347
>>594347
>>594347
If you like evil corporate tactics and shitty templates its for you
5916a6 No.594420
>>594395
>evil corporate tactics
Such as? I've had no problem with the site. Large library, as well.
e3b5a8 No.594424
5916a6 No.594444
>>593413
>I still personally consider waifu fagging to be sinful
To me, if you watch anime and have a healthy interest in women, it's very natural to like the cute girls that are featured. I mean, most of them are designed to be ideal mates for males, and the Japs have a knack for this. They're sweet, virtuous, kindhearted, hardworking maidens, and so beautiful. They're lovely. Of course, it's bad to lose sight of the fact that they're not real, but if you can't appreciate these cuties, I think you need to reexamine your life.
04a01a No.594446
>>594420
Get out normalfag
04a01a No.594447
>>594420
>>594424
>mangafox
>latge library
What a subhuman
5916a6 No.594454
>>594446
>>594447
>being this upset because I don't share your hipster opinions on what sites are good
I've found everything I've looked for, more than 20 different manga series, over there, so their library can't be that bad.
74db27 No.594600
>>594444
There's a difference between "Gee whiz, that 2D girl is hot/pretty and it would be neat if she was real" and being overly obsessed to the point that you gush about her online or own dakimakura of her. The latter stuff is what I mean by waifufagging.
7b0772 No.594632
>>594420
I hate the sterotypical anime protagonist
c36112 No.594637
>>594454
>I've found everything I've looked for, more than 20 different manga series, over there, so their library can't be that bad.
<Implying 20 is much
Not even a mangafox hater heck I don't even read manga anymore but I also noticed that mangafox does not always have either the best scans or some lesser known series.
3b79b2 No.594760
>>594632
They were made in such a way that a stereotypical weeb/otaku can easily project themselves into them or relate to them.
87a746 No.594771
>>594632
What do you hate about it?
812c55 No.594827
>>594760
That's why I hate them
e845df No.594834
>>594827
Find some anime where the MC is the moe-blob.
d53116 No.594860
>>592447
Maria Sama ga miteru is undeniably the best Christian anime ever made!
10d51f No.594950
>>594444
Best tropes are genki girl and yandere
Fight me
5582d5 No.594979
>>592688
>CyberCity 808
I was thinking about this anime looking at this thread the other day (before I saw your post) wondering if it was in any way Christian out of curisity, I only ever watched it a couple of times when I was a dweeb but what do you know you say it's Christian. I'll have to check it out again when I want a cyberpunk fix.
5916a6 No.595076
While not being very Christian, Spice and Wolf is a great show.
73a90f No.595144
>>593339
Dragon Maid is shit but the second pic is false
d83ffc No.595149
5916a6 No.595176
>>595149
No, you're wrong, dude. Furry is with complete animal faces. It's degenerate and disgusting, and only the most depraved individuals enjoy it. Foxgirls, and monster girls, like Holo is the patrician fetish. Monster-girls generally look like humans but with a slight touch of the exotic. Wholly different from furry shit.
e3b5a8 No.595236
>>595176
>Fetish
Suggestion discarded
647f0e No.595257
>>595176
Kemono vs Furry is the difference between enjoying some chocolate syrup on your icecream versus taking a bite out of a pure 100% cacao baker's chocolate bar.
812c55 No.595261
>>595176
You shouldn't have any fetishes
>>594771
pic related
829e35 No.595263
>>595261
what's this one from?
4190dc No.595270
>>595261
>You shouldn't have any fetishes
Is there any dude on the planet who has no fetishes?
1b6322 No.595272
>>592447
Sodomy is never approved, anime poster.
1b6322 No.595273
>>595261
Nothing changed, you're still gay
5eb59b No.595274
>>595270
Are you talking about just sexual fetishes or heart boner fetish stuff as well?
1cd5df No.595276
>>595076
>>595176
A good show about medieval age economy, life on the road, merchants intrigue; but wasted on some people going fanbois for the main girl and everyone else thinks it is a furry show.
>>595270
>>595274
No fetish around here please. We do have our preferences and tastes (short-long hair, mid-length skirt, etc.), but a "fetish" as many people and I know it is "unhealthy obsession" and more often than not sexual in nature.
458072 No.595314
>>595283
I heard someone once describe a fetish as something needed to function sexually.
04a01a No.595316
>>594454
you can like shit all you want with its huge templates you degenerate thats you
85b6ab No.595317
9dfc75 No.595321
>>595149
furry is when the face is animal.
b9b106 No.595329
>>595321
The art style matters more. Plenty of kemono have fully animal features (I spent 14 years in both fandom).
18e9a0 No.595342
Has anyone been watching Yuru Camp? Very wholesome and cute anime about girls going camping.
Pic related, requesting a shop of some degeneracy on the book for her to be disgusted by.
0ca3e0 No.595357
>>595176
>furry+anime
holy shit this shouldn't be allowed to exist
b9b106 No.595361
>>595357
Kemono art was around before furries even existed, in all honesty…
709416 No.595379
>>595342
I've been loving every minute of that show, I'm currently gearing up to go camping myself when the weather gets less lethal. Gonna find some comfy places to read my Bible. I definitely think Yuru Camp will be AOTY even though there is still the entire year left to go.
5916a6 No.595431
Does /christian/ like me?
5916a6 No.595440
>people here don't like animal ears and refer to it as furry
It shouldn't stop you from giving her show Spice and Wolf a shot. It has clever dialogue, a well-crafted plot and very likable characters. You're missing out by skipping it.
e3b5a8 No.595441
>>595431
We love you as we love all our neighbors.
The character you posted looks like a slut though.
5916a6 No.595444
>>595441
>The character you posted looks like a slut though.
That's just a school girl outfit, anon.
f5c08f No.595546
>>595440
Its a good show, but stop shilling it on /christian/
ee8fea No.595573
>>595431
*monogatari sucks
5916a6 No.595606
>>595546
Eh, it's as Christian as most of the shows that are posted here. There aren't many anime shows explicit Christian teachings or Christian characters, but atleast the protagonists that we got to watch are honorable and decent. It espouses good values. That goes a long way for me, and is miles better than what Hollywood puts out.
a675d8 No.595610
>People freaking out because a character has animal hears
>Guy trying to defend said character with "monster girls are a better fetish than furry" shit instead of sensible arguments
We live in a world where an innocent thing like cuphead has a fuckton of rule34 because people are THIS depraved.
Don't act mighty when you guys post moe and ecchi anime like Love live, bakemonogatari when it's obviously made to appeal to horny teenagers.
Speaking of it; Sherlock hounds is a good wholesome anime.
74db27 No.596001
There's Gargantia. It has fan service, but I personally like how it shows the joys of the simple life and how it's anti trans-humanism.
>>595606
I'd say Spice and Wolf pretty obviously anti-Catholic Church, but to be fair, corruption was an issue in the Catholic Church during the time period.
>>594860
Clearly as Christian as Otoboku! Pretty much every Catholic all girls anime is full of lesbians, which is why I would be paranoid if anyone I knew attended a single sex school.
Jokes aside, in the source material of the anime, a lesbian decides to become a nun instead of pursuing her homosexuality, which is ultimately noble. I personally find it humorous because God was doing the NTR'ing.
>>595610
I'm sure that show is fine, unless furry Holmes does cocaine like the original Holmes. In the end, half of it depends on what you're tempted by and what you're not, whether they be cute girls doing cute things or furry people doing furry things.
57fa0b No.596370
>>595610
>an innocent thing like cuphead
Media may look like it is on the surface, but it was never truly innocent.
d83ffc No.596614
>>596370
Daily reminder that there are people that actually believe in pic relateds
85da9d No.596615
1affbc No.596640
>>596614
Masonic symbolism in games is not new. Try researching before posting.
cec99f No.596642
>>596640
>Masonic symbolism
It might be masonic symbolism, but just because something has a chessboard-like floor and one eyes doesn't mean it's inspired by satan.
Many people put them because it's aesthetically pleasing. You need to go deeper to find something truly subversive
Pic related a """""""masonic symbol"""""""" from the Aachen cathedral. One of the oldest in europe
ee8fea No.596662
>>596640
Just because a symbol is also used by the Masons doesn't mean that someone else is using it to signal his masonry.
1affbc No.596665
>>596642
>chess boards
>gamble with the devil and loose soul
>obey the devil and work for him
>level with pyramid with eye in it
At this point a neon light sign that writes "This is masonic symbolism" would still be ignored. How many clues do you need?
1affbc No.596667
>>596662
And that is good now?
cec99f No.596674
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>596665
>gamble with the devil and loose soul
>obey the devil and work for him
Don't they win against the devil at the end though? Isn't the message of the game "don't deal with the devil/don't gamble
>Inb4 "they don't kill him"
Nobody can kill the devil except God
As for the one-eyed pyramid, it has pretty much became a pop culture symbol now and people will throw it out just to be "cool" or "edgy"
Of course we can argue that pretty much all of pop culture is under the control of "the prince of the world", but in that case stop playing video games altogether (you should)
If you want to see something 100 percent masonic, try Mozart
1affbc No.596700
>>596674
There are games with little to no occult symbolism:
-star wars games (i don't see star wars universe as a threat that much, i'd like to be proven wrong)
-strategy games like age of empires or empire world
a03bd4 No.596702
>>595610
that was a great series. And there's nothing that cannot be corrupted.
There are a lot of older cartoons of 80, 90, that can serve this purpose. i.e Maple Town
cec99f No.596709
>>596700
You only see the tree that hides the forest.
Just because a game has little to no "symbolism" doesn't mean it's not harmful as a whole.
Star Wars, despite having good themes of "good vs evil" is
1)Part of a huge commercial industry that lives by keeping adults into a child-like state
2)Has huge pantheistic themes, in the background the force being a neutral thing people can use for good or evil. Many people say "I don't believe In a God, but rather a force like in Star wars" (You have to hear it to believe it)
But the biggest problem of video games and mdern entertainment is : Time
Occasionaly but we're wasting an unhealthy amount of our lives in it.
Sure strategy games are pretty much harmful as they are, but think about the number of hours you have to put in it to get good.
The road to hell isn't necessarily made of huge sins and "OBVIOUS SATANIC SYMBOLZ" but repeated, insignificant, mundane things.
Not saying video games are automatically devilish, but don't look past an enemy just because he is not obvious.
The pope made the same mistake with Pokemon because "it promotes frienship"
20 years later : Whole lotta furries and manchildren
I'd recommand reading the screwtape letters
cec99f No.596710
>>596709
>Sure strategy games are pretty much UNharmful*
sorry for the typos
2354f0 No.596785
>>596709
>Not saying video games are automatically devilish, but don't look past an enemy just because he is not obvious.
>The pope made the same mistake with Pokemon because "it promotes frienship"
>20 years later : Whole lotta furries and manchildren
Enemies lurk around every corner, brother. Take Disney Robin Hood for example. A children cartoon, playful anthropomorphic animals; somehow the base and lustful thoughts assaulted some people and turned them into bloody furries. Pretty much an evidence of our fallen nature.
0accdd No.596821
>>596614
That is one credible suspension of disbelief. There are plenty of people who would say the exact same thing about believing in God or the devil, despite being wrong.
>>596642
>but just because something has a chessboard-like floor and one eyes doesn't mean it's inspired by satan.
What you don't understand (and many don't about this) is that this symbolism is regional, of course if use checkers on my bathroom it's clearly not masonic alter for pagan rituals, however in a controlled channel like television that has consistently displayed it's masonic allegiance than it's clear to see the pattern of that symbolism is showing. It's the fact that a lot of media comes from people in these satanic sects that gives them a freemasonic context.
>Pic related a """""""masonic symbol"""""""" from the Aachen cathedral. One of the oldest in europe
Here is another piece that /christian/ can't seem to accept. The church is involved in this as well, they're an institution just like media, school, sports, radio ect. I'm not saying every church is, but some are. Also it's not just the blatant leftist side of hollywood either,
The game cup head looks like an indie game but it's writer Evan Skolnick was the writer for many of the AAA starwars games.
0accdd No.596839
Uploading a version with better quality.
bb38f3 No.596850
>>592528
CAME HERE TO POST THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS
Sakamichi no Apollon
bb38f3 No.596851
>>596850
And I'll post more
bb38f3 No.596857
And there's more but I'd be spoiling stuff
bb38f3 No.596861
>>592480
>>592783
Nah that show a meme, but has some nice scenes
Also it had some really non-brotherly shounen ai vibes
138c4b No.596989
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>595610
What sadder than furries ruining Sherlock. Is that this anime is one of the most accurate portrayal of the character. Most modern Sherlock stuff liberal haven’t ruined.
5916a6 No.597112
>>595342
Thanks for the tip, dude. Have really enjoyed this show.
722213 No.597123
a03bd4 No.597124
>>596850
looks great. The next one.
>>597112
registered
74db27 No.597258
>>597123
>Usagi Drop.
I never watched the anime, but assuming it stops before the manga time skip, I can at least see where the recommendation comes from.
Oh, and I really do need to watch the first Kino's Journey adaptation.
0accdd No.597280
>>594979
I don't really remember very well if it's christian actually, there is fighting i just know it's good, sorry for the half assed recommendation.
>>597112
>not posting the snug smug version
e7192c No.597333
>>597280
>sorry for the half assed recommendation.
lol no worries
0db066 No.598802
So I followed the heated discussion about Girls' Last Tour and enjoyed the series a few months ago but now I'm not sure whether I should watch the last four episodes or no
ee8fea No.598897
>>598633
lol
>>592447
I see a lot of people talking about Darling in the FranXX. Is it good nor not, and is it appropriate?
74db27 No.598908
>>598897
I haven't seen it, but I'm pretty sure it's very lewd.
ee8fea No.598915
>>598908
that's what I thought which is why I'm not too sure about watching it
fb2faa No.598927
What's you guys' opinion on Berserk?
6abb00 No.598928
415ad6 No.598931
ANIME SHOULD BE DISCARDED AS THE TRASH THAT IT IS.
fc9ac5 No.599024
>>598927
Philosophically and theologically empty.
I watched the 1997 anime and liked the art style and scenery.
That's about it though, it's got nothing else.
9312b8 No.599061
>>593535
Devilman is pretty degenerate but the ending is great. Earth is just a timeloop Hell for Satan.
5b46a0 No.599062
Isn't all of the anime posted here Pirated?
b351b2 No.599065
>durr I watch faggoty pedophile cartoons with bright flashing colours for hours on end this is totally not gonna fuck my brain up
74db27 No.599161
>>599062
There are legal means to watch most of the stuff on this thread: Netflix, Crunchyroll, and Amazon. The Jesus anime happens to be free too.
823e57 No.599220
>>599062
>copying files
>sinful
6abb00 No.599264
>>599220
>Stealing
>Not a sin
97fa73 No.599515
>>599161
>Netflix, Crunchyroll, and Amazon.
Hahahaha oh wow, lets go through those.
>Netflix
People on 8chan hate this, because its all garbage
>Crunchyroll
People on 8chan hate this, because its all garbage
>Amazon
Might be useful but generally people on 8chan hate this, because its mostly garbage.
8c21b4 No.599524
>>599220
Breaking the law is a sin, unless the law is comanding us to do something sinful. Even if laws are stupid, we still have to follow them if doing so is not sinful.
18e9a0 No.599713
>>599220
I don't think it is stealing strictly speaking, but rather a form of, "depriving the laborer of his just wage" which is specially noted as a sin in the Catholic Church. Even following the rule of "Love your neighbor as yourself" I know that I would be frustrated if I spent a long time grinding work hours to make something and most people just pirated it.
18e9a0 No.599732
>>598897
I watched all the episodes out so far of Darling in the FranXX episodes so I'll give you a quick rundown of all the questionable bits. From there you can judge for yourself.
So basically, the theme of the story is more or less an allegory for sex, I guess? In a way, it's kind of Christian, I suppose, in the sense that it has the theme of becoming "one flesh". Basically, they pilot these robots in male-female pairs and the more in synch they are they better the robots work as one body. When the main heroine kisses the main character, they become powerful enough to defeat a strong monster. But when another girl tries to kiss the main character to power up the robot, it doesn't work, and the MC later says he felt guilty because of it (most of the main cast don't know what sex and kissing is for some reason, so in that respect I guess they are kind of innocent).
As far as sexual moments go, there are a few innuendos. The girls made somewhat lewd sounds a coule of times when "synching" with the robots, for instance.
This is one of the most bizarre things though. The position they pilot the robots together has the woman lying face down, butt up right in front of the man, who is sitting straight up behind her. When the woman "synchs" with the robot, I kid you not, a pair of handlebar-like controls unfold from the two buttocks of her suit for the man to grab on to steer and control the robot.
Other than a somewhat lewd bathing scene (at least it didn't have boobs jiggling in your face), and the main heroine being an overly-flirty part-monster woman, that is all I can recall.
I'll try to give a review on some of the other animes I've watched lately, with special emphasis on scenes that may or may not be questionable for a Christian audience.
18e9a0 No.599736
>Mitsuboshi Colors
Cute anime about little girls. 100% clean. The girls are a little bit mischievous and sometimes bratty, but I like how it portrays a somewhat realistic view of children who one moment will be giving adults a hard time and crying the next moment.
18e9a0 No.599741
>Kemono Friends
CGI anime made on a cheap budget. It's basically a children's anime with some aspects of mystery, Sci-Fi, and post-apocalyptic themes. 100% clean. A charming adventure about friendship.
18e9a0 No.599778
I'll put a couple more I can think of on this list.
>Black Clover
Widely disliked, but personally, I like it a lot. Basically, it is quite a cliche shounen. A lot of tired tropes, like a manlet trying hard and yelling to achieve his goals. It involves magic and stuff, so if you think Harry Potter is the devil it's probably not for you. So far, no one has died, and it honestly seems like such a light show that no one will ever die. Really light entertainment. Nothing really deep, but I thought it was fun. Also shows the equivalent of Catholic clergy in a positive light.
>Shokugeki no Souma.
I probably wouldn't recommend this just due to the fact that whenever someone eats food that they really like in this show, their clothes go flying off and they moan erotically. I still like the rest of the show though.
>Hunter X Hunter
Honestly, I wouldn't recommend it. Even though a lot of people consider it to be one of the best shounens, it's personally a little edgy for my tastes. Like, two children getting literally devoured by monsters edgy. Some arcs are clean, and it doesn't really have any lewd fan-service that I can recall, just a lot of blood.
>Gochuumon wa Usagi desu ka? (Is the order a rabbit?)
90% clean. Clean and Christian-friendly except for some ambiguously gay senpai-
love from one of the many characters. It's basically just cute girls doing cute things. At one point, one girl goes to work at a coffee shop and her friends come to a misunderstanding that it's some lewd cafe, so they go spy on her out of concern. It's pretty stupid, all the characters are somewhat air-headed, but I thought it was cute and funny. The only thing I'd say is slightly lewd is probably the title cards they show for a couple seconds after the credits, but you'd often just skip past those.
>Kinmoza
More or less has the same problem as Gochiusa with some character having a somewhat gay crush. Like usual though, it doesn't become anything. Mostly sexually clean otherwise. It's pretty funny when the Japanese voice actresses speak English and pretend their characters are from England. They fail miserably, but it's amusing. Basically another cute girls doing cute things slice-of-life anime where nothing significant happens but it is still relaxing to watch after a long day.
>Yuru Yuri
I thought it was going to be like Gochiusa and Kinmoza but it goes way beyond. I vaguely knew "Yuri" meant lesbianism, but I also thought it just meant girls getting along as friends. Regardless, this anime is pretty gay, like there are gay undertones everywhere, not just on the side. Also, it is kind of lewd. And they're middleschoolers. Yeah, I wouldn't recommend it at all. I only watched like two episodes, but avoid this anime.
>K-On!
Cute, light, show about girls starting a band. There is literally one episode where they go to the beach and talk about each others boobs for just a second but that's over pretty quickly.
>Koizumi loves Ramen Noodles
They talk a lot about ramen. The characters make lots of slurping noises. The ramen looks good. The main character seems pretty gay though. Also why do they have to make such lewd sounds after they eat?
>Hakumei and Mikocchi
I haven't seen anything specifically gay that I can remember yet, but I have a bad feeling. Overall, it's pretty chill, but the pagan/spiritual themes are kind of annoying. Probably wouldn't recommend.
Also Yuru Camp is completely clean of both lewds and gayness.
3f85f0 No.599921
Christian anime is a contradiction lol
its all idolatry and sin. keep deluding yourself by thinking anime isnt a idolatry lelll
698f20 No.599929
>>596747
While I feel that is on the more blasphemous side, I will admit that was kinda funny
b9b106 No.601800
>>599921
This anon…is not completely wrong. So often this becomes a sad reality and I am afraid of it.
5916a6 No.605403
>>601675
Bump because I really enjoy the topic.
80eba1 No.605409
I asked this question in the QTDTOT, but it never got answered so I'll ask again here: As a covert, I was wondering if it is acceptable as a Christian to enjoy secular media knowing that they are fictions and falsehood and that I don't have to adhere to any messages within?
80eba1 No.605410
e3b5a8 No.605411
>>605409
It depends on what you can handle and on the show.
If you're still weak in the faith you should probably stick only to the least harmful shows possible.
Else, it's fine in moderation. Of course excluding some shows (((shows)))
144ad3 No.605412
>>605409
Yes, it's fine. You don't have to go goat-raping, suicide vest wearing extremist just because you've come to Christ. You can still enjoy things and you don't have to stop others from enjoying things.
a24c2c No.605413
>>605409
Sin in media is a question of influence on the viewer rather than the media or act of consuming it being sinful in of itself. With media, everyone has a different line of 'acceptable content' they can handle as everyone has a different bar for temptation that they can tolerate. Ask yourself if the thing is going to have an impact on your faith or your spiritual well-being. If you would say yes, then steer clear. If you initially say no but are consuming it and feeling uncomfortable with it, then don't hesitate either. Just make the choice that doesn't interfere with your relationship with God.
St. Basil describes how we should consume pagan literature (which is a good analogy for media nowadays). Like a bee going from flower to flower, take only the nectar. Don't take the whole flower with you. To add to this analogy, it's also up to you to choose whether the flower in question is actually worth your time visiting. It could give you mites.
80eba1 No.605441
>>605411
>>605412
>>605413
Alright, neat. Thank you all for the insight.
397cc3 No.605769
Maria Holic is kind of a mixed bag. The main characters are a lesbian who only joins an all girls school because she is looking for a girlfriend, the show is partly a parodie of series like this >>594860 and a crossdresser though he is only crossdressing to fulfill his deceased grandmother's last wish. He'll one day become the school's principal, that's why she wanted him to get firsthand experience as a stundent. It's also got some very crude and mean spirited jokes.
However, it is surprisingly positive and accurate when it actually talks about christianity. There's also a priest side-character who's a genuine nice person who does his best to help others. He is somewhat attracted to one of the characters but recognizes this as sinful and never does anything to act upon his desires.
This is only in regareds to the anime adaptation, the original manga is only partly translated.
>>605413
This right here, listen to this man!
>>599062
Can't say that this isn't true. When you think about it, it is kinda funny how many anons in this thead or in general complain about sinful messages in the media that they stole.
8ee3fe No.605806
>>593779
I just finished Fate/Apocrypha. I liked it but I was already a long time Nasu fan. There are two issues that are related to this board.
1. Joan D'arc doesn't seem like the historical Joan D'Arc, not that the other Servants are particularly accurate.
2. It was interesting that they essentially did a Christian protagonist (Joan D'Arc) vs Christian antagonist (spoiler) ideological conflict. Granted, since Nasuverse mechanics are involved, it ends up being bizarro Christian sect vs bizarro Christian sect, but if you asked me if I thought that both sides were trying to be Christian, I would say yes.
397cc3 No.605850
>>596862
>>596861
This show also gave us one of the most /christian/ reaction images since Alexander Anderson.
f63927 No.605876
what the FUCK is wrong with you hypocritical retards? ALL ANIME IS IDOLATRY, THEREFOR ITS ALL SIN
IT ALL TAKES AWAY FROM GOD. ITS ALL IDOLATRY
you worship these japanese cartoons, they become your idol whom you love. ITS ALL SIN, YOU CANT BE A LAW FOLLOWING CHRISTIAN AND LIKE ANIME
same goes for competative sports, television, and most mass media
keep deluding yourself u braindead hypocrites into thinking its not sin. if you are agnostic or athiest i can understand how you can watch anime and not think much of it. but if you read the bible and watch anime i cant respect your opinion because you are a delusional mental contortionist in denial
this thread is literally talking about sin in a God fearing board, just how delusional are you?
397cc3 No.605879
>>599921
>>605876
>idolatry
Maybe I misunderstand how that word is used in english but why do you think that reading or watching any sort of fiction is a sin?
397cc3 No.605881
>>605879
*all sort of fiction
f63927 No.605882
>>605881
graven image that you worship and love is a sin
zealous jews werent even allowed to make images of ANYTHING in older times. not paintings or drawings or anything
its all sin. just because it upsets your anime watching lifestyle doesnt mean its not sin. you should be thanking me for telling you this
397cc3 No.605884
>>605882
Yeah, so? People are supposed to watch anime, not worship it. Those who do worship it have problems either way, Christian or not.
2b1749 No.605885
>>605882
>zealous jews werent even allowed to make images of ANYTHING in older times. not paintings or drawings or anything
Tabernacle of Moses, Temple of Salomon and Dura-Europos synagogue have other things to say.
And "any graven image" is mistranslation made by hertics.
4b6247 No.605976
>>598927
I liked it as an atheist and moral relativist, because of the plot-twist when you realize that white, beautiful, ambitious Griffth was evil all along, whereas black, rugged and frugal Guts was the good guy. It's like a significantly upgraded version of Macbeth. Of course, as a Christian you are quick to point out the trespasses, so nothing really surprises you.
Other than that I agree with >>598931, Anime is the Catholicism of visual entertainment. Watch Tarkovsky instead.
e3b5a8 No.605987
>>605879
I think you have the correct definition. It means to worship or idolize something other than The Living God.
>>605876
Pic related
bc4ec3 No.606042
>>592535
>Haibane Renmei
Really nice anime.
The "circle of sin" paradox was interesting.
I also felt a lot of sympathy for Reki's character.
a36619 No.606050
>>592688
>Legend of the Galactic Heroes
Literally the best anime ever.
0bb36a No.607369
"From place to place the homeless Jew wanders in ever-shifting exile, since the time when he was torn from the abode of his fathers and has been suffering the penalty for murder, and having stained his hands with the blood of Christ whom he denied, paying the price of sin."
37c871 No.607375
57fa0b No.607392
>1 John 5:19 We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.
>John 12:25 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
e75f20 No.607579
>>607375
That's not the thread's topic.
5916a6 No.608611
>>607375
It's top-tier entertainment, though, and pretty wholesome, all things considered.
5f0cfd No.608808
>God made humans as creators like He is
>God granted us creative powers so that we can create what we want
>…
<Humans create an*me
we are failed race
7cd0e2 No.608905
>>605882
>non-iconographic pictures are evil
>>599062
Some of it may be; some of it may also be purchasable in the West and have been acquired thus. And there may be some things that were never released in the United States and thus rely on fan translations (and may therefore qualify as trans-formative works on a legal basis, until such time official distributions are made available). It would be more ideal in the last case to make the sub files available and let people append them to their own copies official imported media, but it may not be illegal in that case.
d93c52 No.608974
why is this garbage on the front page? its like a thread talking about which Christian pornstars are the best
ALL ANIME IS SIN, how delusional do you have to be to think otherwise. now i can understand if you are addicted to it and cant quit, and have tried to repent but keep falling back
but to be in denial that anime is sin is another level i simply cant understand.
ALL anime is sin
a24c2c No.608978
>>608974
I'm interested to hear your thoughts on non-scriptural reading, like novels, as well as theater.
Are both inherently, unambiguously sinful?
812c55 No.608979
>>608974
Explain how this >>608618 is sin
5637b8 No.608989
>>608979
Images of Jesus Christ are sinful
7a9fb8 No.608997
>>598897
>>599732
Darling in the FranXX is the first anime I seriously and unironically watched, so that says something. The emphasis on trust and faith within a relationship is a good relief from constant inter-personal cynicism in Western media. I also applaud the emphasis on fighting for your loved one and changing your desires and lifestyle, espiecally in ep. 6, to better each other instead of yourself, something I don't think exists in any modern Western media. The creators seem to be making an "anti-Eva" which I admire because Eva is the most retarded, over-praised, pretentious piece of crap ever made. The scene when Hiro and Zero Two first pilot, the dancing end scene in Ep. 5, and the scene from Ep. 6 when Hiro comforts Zero Two are all quite lovely.
That being said, the show obviously bases its premise on a massive symbolism for young adult sex. There's no repercussions for switching partners except that you might "fail to sync" with the new partner. As of right now in the show, there is no negative consequence for treating, as many of the pilots do, synchronization so casually. I don't mean carelessly or selfishly which is shown negatively, but doing essentially a sexual experience without the covenant commitment that God desires. The closest you get, which again I applaud the writers for this, is the relationship between Darling and Oni-Gal, when MC agrees to pilot with Best Girl in the 2nd episode. There's hints that the show will show that long-term commitment beats mere short term compatibility as the higher-ups and Dr. Franxx want ways to improve the Franxx mechs against the Klaxosaurs. We have 23 more episodes. Besides that, I find the act of synchronization itself and the synchronization tech are not adequately explored and shaped for my tastes. I blame the lack of a real monogamous worldview.
If you're a mature Christian who likes anime, especially with mechs, good action, and a happy romance, minus a few scenes, DitF is not a bad anime. Now, this can change as new episodes air, so be on guard always.
>>608974
>ALL ANIME IS SIN
The medium (animated film and television) itself is not sinful. The place it's made (Japan) is not inherently sinful. That Japan is mostly non-Christian should warn us to be extremely cautious and attentively wise when indulging in anime. Other than that, watching what is pure, honorable, lovely, and wholesome, even if not Christian in intent or make-up, is not sinful.
Btw, you should not add to God's law (Deut. 4:2), if you believe something is sin, you need to prove it with Scripture.
1c57e2 No.609008
>>592532
OMG Mike wazawski to!
0bb36a No.609033
>>599714
I don't think Prince Valiant is anime (as much as I enjoy the story and the cartoon when I was younger).
>>608997
There was a FranXX thread deleted last week or the week before. The only thing I had to say was that there's this two-become-one metaphor and the supremacy of the male-female union.
>Darling in the FranXX is the first anime I seriously and unironically watched
You've got a ways to catch up.
dd7f58 No.609051
2b1749 No.609082
>>608989
Iconoclasm is islamic heresy.
138c4b No.609083
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>>599778
>>592447
>No one posted fighting foodons yet
>Monster partner anime that references Devine comedy and Jesus turning water into wine
138c4b No.609084
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>>609083
Forgot link. The bad guys celebrate gluttony and the seven deadly sins are portrayed as evil. http://fightingfoodons.wikia.com/wiki/Glutton
dd7f58 No.609097
Someone who is an ubermensch hyperzealot otaku please correct me if I'm wrong, but since the majority of anime comes from Japan it seems their view of Christianity itself has a bearing on this topic.
My understanding is that only about 1% of the Japanese population is Christian with the vast majority being some sort of non-devout Shintoism. My understanding of the culture as a whole's view of Jesus Christ is that He was some sort of holy man but not God in our Western sense of the word. Probably the easiest way for us to grasp their perspective is to visualize Jesus as Super Santa Clause Man who goes around rewarding people with good or ill like some kind of manga superhero.
So anything that favorably recognizes Christmas (even as a romantic holiday) and Santa Claus isn't probably very antithetical to the cause of Christ Himself. Just a guess on my part.
6673f5 No.609122
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>>609097
>My understanding of the culture as a whole's view of Jesus Christ is that He was some sort of holy man but not God in our Western sense of the word.
That's kinda hard to answer generally. It's not like I have any firsthand knowledge of this but I'd say it mostly depends on how much the individual author knows about Christianity, as can be seen by all the different series in this thread. I'd say most Japanese know about it as much as the average non-christian Westerner.
>Super Santa Clause Man who goes around rewarding people with good or ill like some kind of manga superhero
Most would probably say that he's the son of God, did miracles and was a very nice person or something along those lines.
2bbda2 No.609123
>>609097
I do not really which is better to be fair.
>Western world. Full of heritages of Christendom, but a lot do not fully understand and went full edgelord in the past few years.
>Places with small presence of Christianity, but the faithfuls of those places seek and understand deeply in their faith and keep it strong even if persecuted or even martyred (in some places) by their own kin on a daily basis.
6673f5 No.609125
>>609097
>So anything that favorably recognizes Christmas (even as a romantic holiday) and Santa Claus isn't probably very antithetical to the cause of Christ Himself. Just a guess on my part.
I forgot I had that pic.
e5f3d2 No.609278
>>609097
Christianity is more of a exotic element in their fiction. They love Jeanne D'arc for example and several big franchises incorporates the Church like Hellsing and the Type Moon Universe. For the most part it's not done out of malice but out of curiosity.
e5f3d2 No.609298
>>609297
The translation team did not know about that misguided human being. Relax.
2e127d No.609331
>>593668
That's the point. Everyone who tries to use necromancy or magic (philosophers stone) ends up horribly punished.
The rest of alchemy is matter manipulation in the same way that industrial age is capable of, except very fast.
19f90d No.609413
5916a6 No.609434
>>609097
>My understanding is that only about 1% of the Japanese population is Christian
1-2.3%, according to Wikipedia. That's alot of Christians in country of 127 million. Unfortunate what happened to Hiroshima. I think it had a massive Christian community before the second world war.
0bb36a No.609447
>>609434
For 1%, Christians are disproportionately represented in politics in Japan. There have been seven Christian prime ministers. Also, it wasn't just Hiroshima that had a large Christian population: Nagasaki did as well. They were the two cities that had the largest of any community.
dd7f58 No.609451
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>>609123
>>609125
>>609278
>>609434
Thanks everyone, I appreciate the perspective. Have a vid related.
d93c52 No.609970
>>608997
>Btw, you should not add to God's law (Deut. 4:2), if you believe something is sin, you need to prove it with Scripture.
Deuteronomy 5:8-9
8Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:
9Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me
all anime is breaking the 2nd commandment
all this cognitive dissonance and denial in this thread…. all anime is sin
1a4f86 No.609972
>>609097
I think a big thing is what's lost in translation with Pagan Cultural assumptions versus monotheistic ones.
Generally in most forms of Paganism it's less about faith and more one's personal relationship with a deity which has its own personality that you appease with various sacrifices, it lends itself to Syncretism because any "new" religion which emerges can essentially just be seen as adding a particularly generous foreign god to the pantheon–for example Hindus incorporated Buddhism into enough of their teachings that it died out in the land it was born in, meanwhile there's some general belief that one can escape the cycle of reincarnation if they're *especially* devoted to one god or another.
Thus Christianity, especially Catholic Christianity, is a curiosity to the Japanese: it preaches monotheism with only ONE God who is powerful over everything, the God asks that you believe in him and do good works, and came down to earth as both fully human and fully divine.
To the Japanese, they could probably relate Jesus best as a kind of Kami or historical figure that traced his lineage back to the divine like their emperor or so on.
c85f39 No.610009
>>606042
They answer they give to the circle of sin paradox is that you need to be forgiven by someone else. See, because if you forgive yourself, you don't acknowledge your sin and are therefore a sinner. If you see your sin then you are a sinner. The answer is you must see you sinner but someone else acknowledges you should be forgiven.
Hearkens to the sacrament of confession and, more deeply, to Christ's forgiveness. It definitely veils the theology slightly, but I love how that's a major point of the show.
2b1749 No.610012
>>609970
Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in the earth beneath
said the anon while posting image of Cross and Calvary which is thing on earth beneath
7a9fb8 No.610328
>>609970
I'm an iconoclast, but even I understand that the 2nd commandment doesn't refer to visual arts. Besides you goober head, in that same set of books God commands the Israelites to create *GASP* figures of Cherubim, animals, and other things to adorn the Tabernacle. It's almost as if there's a specific attribute to idols that make them idols that most visual arts like paintings, statues, and anime usually lack. Though I'll admit many Otakus are idolaters sadly.
9910f3 No.610384
>>609970
Are you trolling or are you just pr*testant?
And bloody google what graven image means.
ff70a3 No.610585
>>610384
He's clearly a troll. He won't even respond to any replies he get's because he does not have any arguments that he could use to reply. Check his ID, he made a similar post before and didn't respond to anything either.
20f92c No.610764
>>599024
>Philosophically and theologically empty
How far did you read? It portrays demons and how a normal man becomes one surprisingly well.
4a81b7 No.610768
>>610764
Yeah, a lot of the black swordsman arc would show minor bad guys who would become totally depraved, and without fail, it was always
>the lust of the flesh
>the lust of the eyes
>the pride of life
that brought them to that point.
85b6ab No.611885
>>599024
I agree , also all that anti-christian propaganda.
8c0297 No.615179
>>605987
>>605882
>graven image that you worship and love is a sin
Graven image at all was the sin. "you shall not grave images of anything on earth/heaven/hell" was the commandment, it never mentions that you have to adore them to be sin.
546009 No.615207
>>615179
>it never mentions that you have to adore them to be sin.
it wouldn't be a graven image if it wasn't worshipped/seen as idol.
e5f3d2 No.622436
>>611885
Berserk is only appreciated because of its art and gore. Some elements of the plot is nicely executed but otherwise it's just peddling nihilistic will to power Nietzsche autism.