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>>588914

Are you going to you college? Perhaps there may be a christian union in your city, might find a christian girl.

Also big cities typically have large non-denominational Evangelical type churches that typically have large numbers of young people, could be a good opportunity to make christian friends.

Good luck Brother

>>588914

>Why don't young people go to church?

Because young people believe themselves immortal. Most young people can't even imagine themselves turning 30, much less imagine the idea of eternity and where they'll spend it.

>lutheran state church

I think that's the problem as >>588925

explained.

I read in a biography of Saint Bridget of Sweden received a vision of Jesus saying that Sweden/Scandinavia is like a dry desert where faith has a hard time to take root. It takes time and you need to persevere. If a congregation is small then it might be time to engage yourself in the community to actively welcome new people and so on.

>>588924

Yes, I go to college, and I think there is a Christian union. I think I have forgoten that a big city in Norway is more like a "big city" in the rest of the world, but I still thank you for your advice, and the best of luck to you too.

>>588925

There are indeed some who convert to Catholicism, I even know a guy who "converted" not so long ago (you don't really convert, you just join another group of Christians, am I right?).

>Having female priests, allowing homosexuality, having homosexual """"sacraments of marriage"""", allowing divorce, contraception or abortion are NOT OKAY.

I agree with you, and although I personally don't approve of these actions, it is not for me to decide. God will judge then when the time comes! Same goes for politicians, who use church as a playground (amazing comparison, I will use it from now on, if you don't mind).

>What do you think about the Catholics in Norway?

Catholics in Norway are okay, they're are still my brothers in Christ, I am however more of a "sola fide"-man, but who knows. I considered reading St.Augustine and Thomas Aquinas, maybe they will change my mind.

I will try finding a Bible study group, thanks for you advice and the best of luck to you.

>>588928

It would be a lie to say that I wasn't like that, but that mindset withered away when I was like 18, do they stop growing up or something?

>>588935

>do they stop growing up or something?

Not really. It's a product of the times. Look at the nations where religious services are attended on a regular basis. The one general constant is military service. When young men go to war, they face their mortality early. They know in the hearts that "I am going to die and it may be horrible." There's a reason they say that there are no atheists in fox holes. It's also the reason for the powerful rise in Islam over the last 20 years - there aren't too many Muslim nations that aren't in a constant state of war.

But if you take a society where young men don't face their mortality early and are free to go through life at their own pace, they tend to ignore the question of eternity and where they may end up spending it. Again with the Muslim example: the Muslim nations that aren't constantly fighting wars have the lowest percentages of active participants in Islam.

Note: I use Muslim nations because, well, Christian nations tend to not be so determined to blow up everything around them. But if you look back in time to our more warlike days, you'd find the same applies. When men go to war, they take God with them.

>>588938

Also note: I'm not condoning constant war. I'm just sayin' that when you figure you're going to live to 100, you tend to not bother with church until you're 80. That's why churches in the West are usually filled with old people.

>>588940

mods get this heathen out

>>588940

>goreposting

Awww, that's cute. He still thinks goreposting is super 1337 tr0ll.

>>588914

>the entirety of this post

>>>/lakeoffire/

>>588947

Speaking of which. Thank you for removing all those gay and pedophile posters.

>>588948

How so, are you memeing or do you have a proof? Use Bible and not rhetoric please.

>>588953

Proof of what exactly? Of your error? Do you want to kill me by exhaustion?

>>588960

Ideally.

>>588935

>Catholics in Norway are okay, they're are still my brothers in Christ

Read Galatians

>maybe they will change my mind

Really? You're willing to give up the gospel of Jesus Christ? To throw away peace with God?

>>588935

> (you don't really convert, you just join another group of Christians, am I right?).

I would compare the distance between an atheist and a Protestant would be similar between a Protestant and Catholic. with this I'm speaking in baby talk, because in reality the difference between being a Catholic and a Protestant is like the difference between man and God, since the church is the body of Christ and the Catholic Church is church Jesus Christ established, if you take that for true and then compare with some people who broke away from the church Jesus Christ established and then started teaching other things, that is the difference.

>>588978

>read the Bible, it surely contains damming proof against the people who collated it

retard

>>589069

There's a difference between claiming to do something and actually doing it

>>589143

I don't think you understand the words you just posted

>>589149

>No, they're just actually Christian

[citation needed]

>women are forbidden to teach

Yes because we should totally hear more about how the Christian churches should be more inclusive to non-Christians and how St Paul was a meanie for trying to save a girl possessed by a demon.

>Sodom wasn't razed for homosexuality.

You're right, there was a catalogue of moral failures in Sodom, but to pretend that trying to homosex angels isn't one of them is insane.

>>589149

>m-muh silent majority

In the age of the internet, that doesn't work anymore

>>589151

>>589154

Did you read the post through a mirror or something?

>>589151

The reason people don't go to those "churches" is because they are actually Christian is the point of that post.

>>589155

Ei viddu.

Sorry, I got the wrong end of the stick. Please forgive me.

>>589149

>they're just actually Christian, unlike certain people

>>589155

>the billions of people who don't go to these churches are the real Christians

That's the "silent majority" argument. Doesn't work anymore.

>>589169

Yes, I did. It is literally right there: >>589149

It literally says:

>No, they're just actually Christian, unlike certain people that don't believe that women are forbidden to teach and that Sodom wasn't razed for homosexuality.

This means that the people who DON'T go to those churches are the "actual Christians". That is literally the "silent majority" argument.

Is English not your first language?

>>589175

Right back at you.

If my argument is that people don't go to church in first place, why did I include…

>unlike certain people that don't believe that women are forbidden to teach and that Sodom wasn't razed for homosexuality.

In my post?

Why did I include

>church with women priests and gays

In my post?

Surely, I was referring to all churches according to you, so I don't need to add denomination-specific notes.

>>589177

The "silent majority" argument is when you claim there is a vast silent majority who can't be seen because they're not doing the thing that is supposedly wrong.

If 100 people go to a church and that church is deemed improper, a magic 900 people are brought up to claim that "if it were a proper church, there would be 1,000 people there!" Those 900 are the "silent majority", the ones who aren't seen … but they totally exist guys … totally.

That worked wonders back in the 80s, especially in elections in the Southern US. In the age of the internet it doesn't work anymore. You have to actually show the people you claim exist. In your case, you're claiming that the people who DON'T go to churches like that are "just actually Christian".

Meaning you've conjured up a silent majority of actual Christians. Now, back it up. Show us those magic people you conjured.

>>589149

OP here, myb the reason the church became wierd was because of people becoming atheist. Church tries to be "hip" so they allow fags to marry etc.

It is also possible that many left the church and only lunatic fringe stayed and gained enough influence to change the church.

>>589187

>Show us those magic people you conjured.

Just go to any traditional church like a Tridentine Mass Catholic church and you'll see most people are actually younger while old people like Novus Ordo missals.

>>588914

Maybe visit a free church that isn't tied to the state? They almost always have more people attending than state churches in Europe

http://www.luthersk-kirke.no/

These guys are part of the CELC which is a conservative conference of lutherans.

If I remember correctly they only have 2 churches in Norway but either way It would be better than going to a church that teaches things like homosexuality not being a sin.

>>589193

It is not my job to prove your point. Do the research and get the numbers. Don't expect me to do your homework for you and don't give me your anecdotes.

>>589216

Too bad.

>>588914

Most people in my church are 20-40.

I think location matters.

>>589280

Also its an EO Russian church in south east Asia. Yet the attendance is decent and fairly young

American Catbro here. Say a special prayer for Europe, brothers. She was once mighty…

>>589399

We are goners: planning to escape Europe soon…