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>>588182

I'm a very edgy guy and I don't usually respond to threads looking for help, but if you're such a failure as you say, which is unlikely because you're either too hard on yourself or surrounded by wrong people, then why don't you abandon your life and become a monk? If you can't stand living the way you live right now and can't handle being with other people, that's the natural conclusion, not suicide.

>>588182

>My very existence insults God and all the people I know or meet.

Congratulations, you are on first step of repentance and righteousness.

>>588190

Because that is not why one becomes a monk. Monk, like priest or deacon is a supernatural vocation and you don't become on of these because you "hate this world".

>>588182

And for you OP, self-hate is the ultimate egotism and selfishness. Stop being all over yourself, because no matter what you do, did or will do, God loves you. He simply does and there's nothing you can do against. The only thing you do is sinning, which distances you from God. That doesn't change a little shit about Him loving you unconditionally and eternally.

>> I don't even care about the health problems I have or life problems I had, just the guilt is too heavy for me and its going to smash me soon.

Why are you disrespecting God and Creation ? You shit on everything He did and everyone who died and worked in His name throughout the centuries. What do you think does it have to be like being a Copt in Egypt ? General suppression through government and when you go to church, a retarded muslim shit blows himself up during the Liturgy. And yet they don't give up, continue to do their thing, because that is what pleases God.

Or the oriental orthos around Iraq, Afghanistan and the like ? What you experience right now is a condition that is brought forth entirely by yourself - including demonic influence, I'm pretty sure. But that is no excuse.

I ask you to stop being all over yourself right now, because as you see it's very harmful to yourself and others. And pray. Pray a Rosary, contemplate the mysteries. Today is the day of the Glorious mysteries of Christ.

The Resurrection

The Ascension into Heaven

The Pentecost

The Assumption of Mary

The Coronation of Mary

It is a great set of mysteries to contemplate especially that everyone can fall, but you will always get yourself up, because God did so. And who are you to forsake God when you say the only reason you didn't neck yourself is God Himself.

Get your ass up. Pray. Go to your family and friends and apologize for insulting them. And don't you dare to not do it, God will know if you didn't. Only through begging for forgiveness the ones you insulted can you ask God for forgiveness for the rejection of His love.

And if you can't do that, then I command you to go seek to speak to a priest. He will know best and if you choose a Catholic or orthodox priest, then they will show you a way - and if they can't help you in first place, they will refer you to a psychiatrist who then will definitely be able to help you. The most important thing you can do, however, is to stop with the self-hate. You're not only ruining yourself, you're ultimately offending God by that. Stop with the self-loathing, pray and eventually you will see that with the help of God will you be able to fight this conditions and the demons probably reinforcing it.

>>588200

PS: I don't care if you're not Catholic, pray the Rosary, because it is entirely benefitial and it is not a prayer exclusive to Catholics. Everyone can and should do it.

Stop sinning, go to confession, repent, stop being edgy, begome Catholic, pray a lot and trust God. God always forgives.

This will literally fix all your problems. And don't reply to me with some long boring whining post about how you can't do it, because I won't read it. Just go ahead and do it, the sooner the better.

>>588200

Also go to Church. Visit a Catholic or orthodox mass/Liturgy, Vespers, a Vigil, doesn't matter - because Christ is right there. Again, it doesn't matter if you're actual Catholic or ortho - God is present for everyone, not only us.

Moreover I want to refer you to Fr. Mike Schmitz who made some great short videos you can watch and always re-watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdmVKNCe_HE&list=PLeXS0cAkuTPpJ6j3eH59WudJhJ4q1tpwH&index=134

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juN6sG_esjU&index=56&list=PLeXS0cAkuTPpJ6j3eH59WudJhJ4q1tpwH

(this one is especially important not only for prayer but for you realizing that God is good)

here's the playlist

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeXS0cAkuTPpJ6j3eH59WudJhJ4q1tpwH

Again, I'm not trying to convert you in case you aren't Catholic. But I'm saying get yourself up, because self-loathing offends God, because you ultimately only care for yourself (whether that's in a good way or not … it's obviously bad).

>>588190

>If you can't stand living the way you live right now and can't handle being with other people, that's the natural conclusion, not suicide.

Because I try to help my parents with my low wage and can't really leave them like that unless I kill myself and

am living as solitary as possible

>>588200

>egotism and selfishness

The problem is that I hurt other people,

>What do you think does it have to be like being a Copt in Egypt ? General suppression through government and when you go to church, a retarded muslim shit blows himself up during the Liturgy. And yet they don't give up, continue to do their thing, because that is what pleases God.

I never said that other people don't have it harder but I'm disliked because of my existence, believing in God doesn't even come into play here. In your example they are doing what is right while I can't correct my mistakes at all.

>>588205

>Stop sinning

Easier said than done.

>>588209

>believing in God doesn't even come into play here

You are offending God by this self-hate. You offend no one by your sole existence. And if you did, it's not your problem.

Also bullshit, you can correct your mistakes anytime. If you can't, because whoever you offended is out of reach for whichever reason, then pray.

Stop to fucking excuse yourself with the shit you're making up out of your ass. Read my posts again, stop acting like you're the center of the world. You aren't. You aren't even the center of "your" world. God is.

Do what we told you in ITT and you'll become better. Point blank period.

Get out now, take a walk for an hour, pray the Rosary and ask for forgiveness.

Go talk to a priest, go to a mass or liturgy, be in the presece of God, and everything will work out just fine.

But for God's sake, stop being an egofag.

>>588211

>If you can't, because whoever you offended is out of reach for whichever reason, then pray

Have you never had people who simply don't want to even look at you, doesn't matter what I say they simply don't care.

>stop acting like you're the center of the world.

I'm extremely irrelevant but sometimes I just make some really big problems.

>everything will work out just fine

I have been waiting that for so long, or at least some confirmation that I'm doing what is right but it never ever happens, only the opposite, that I was a mistake.

>>588214

>>If you can't, because whoever you offended is out of reach for whichever reason, then pray

>Have you never had people who simply don't want to even look at you, doesn't matter what I say they simply don't care.

Yes. So what ? Stop defining yourself through others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd5UV2pL4sI&index=57&list=PLeXS0cAkuTPpJ6j3eH59WudJhJ4q1tpwH

>I'm extremely irrelevant but sometimes I just make some really big problems.

No you aren't. And you know that is not the core of what you think. What you're looking for is affirmation by self and others by telling you that you're right and you're irrelevant. You're not. Not to people around you and most especially to God. He loves you as He loved the saints.

What you're really doing is you literally are refusing to do good for the opportunity to rationalise that what you're doing is right, you're just waiting for "confirmation". That is the translation of what you wrote.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPhjpue3SfQ&list=PLeXS0cAkuTPpJ6j3eH59WudJhJ4q1tpwH&index=137

I will now stop talking to you, not because I despise you in any way, but because you are taking this as an excuse to not act.

Re-read the thread, do as we said. Most importantly see a priest. And stop the excuses, because that is everything you're doing here. You're making excuses.

Have a good one and God bless. Return when you have an actual question and aren't just looking for a reason or affirmation that your self-pity is justified. Because it isn't.

>>588218

>What you're really doing is you literally are refusing to do good for the opportunity to rationalise that what you're doing is right, you're just waiting for "confirmation".

I don't know if I'm doing good but I'm trying my best to, like I said in my first post. I said that I'm asking for confirmation whatever what I'm doing is right, not to start doing something.

>affirmation that your self-pity is justified

I'm not playing the victim, after all I'm the one that is hurting people. I just don't understand why God made me so weak compared to everyone else.

>>588209

>Easier said than done.

It is very hard to overcome sin, in fact, it is impossible for a human. Which is why you need to turn to God for help. He will forgive you and take you back, no matter how badly you think of yourself.

You should question to yourself who could whisper that kind of cruel things to you. And why.

>>588241

Of course I will always be a sinner no matter what, but there is still some kind of a limit before one starts to slowly destroying himself to "almost" a point of no return. Like I said already I asked him numerous time and its the simple reason I have not killed myself and am actually thankful for a lot of things but I simply don't know what to do and how to continue.

>>588243

>cruel

Its simply the reality, its not hard to see it yourself when it happens.

>>588249

>the reality

oh yes, I've seen so many realities in a single day, and from the same person. Dozens.

also we are commanded to stay together to be stronger, because it's going to rain very hard. This is where unity and mutual understanding make us resist where others fail.

>>588182

I was going to make a thread like this. I don’t have a lot of time, I’m going to go see a counselor. I will respond later, probably in 5-6 hours because of a busy day today (my ip might be different, so I’ll let you know it’s me). Keep holding up hope, God didn’t send you to die

>still no replies

>>605859

>THIS