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Greetings.. Christanon 01/10/18 (Wed) 16:39:28 ad08f1 No.586849

Hey guys, just wanna ask this, any reformed/calvinist equivalent of divine office / liturgy of the hours?

ps : Im interested in catholicism but i dont like pope, my view is Christ is head of church, not a man and mariology. Good things : Eucharist is everyday and there's daily mass, a thing we dont have in reformed churches.

Christanon 01/10/18 (Wed) 17:04:15 fbfb45 No.586864

>>586849

>my view has precedence over the Church's view

That's not how it works, that's just heresy

Christanon 01/10/18 (Wed) 17:16:25 add986 No.586873

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> Im interested in catholicism but i dont like pope, my view is Christ is head of church, not a man and mariology.

you know what to begome…

Christanon 01/10/18 (Wed) 17:24:11 4f44fa No.586875

>>586849

https://www.monergism.com/thethreshold/sdg/calvin_necessityreform.html

Willworship is bad, OP

Christanon 01/10/18 (Wed) 17:40:29 69c622 No.586887

>>586849

>my view is Christ is head of church, not a man

We believe that Christ is the head of the Church too - the Pope is merely His vicar.

Christanon 01/10/18 (Wed) 17:44:31 fbfb45 No.586890

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>>586873

Christanon 01/10/18 (Wed) 17:45:27 add986 No.586892

>>586887

we already have a comforter he talked about

he never said he'll give us a semi-infallible "ex cathedra" vicar

Christanon 01/10/18 (Wed) 17:47:27 fbfb45 No.586894

>>586892

>AD 2018

>being a biblelet

Christanon 01/10/18 (Wed) 17:58:29 100a66 No.586900

>>586849

Hi friend, I would advise you to read through this article about the papacy: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12260a.htm

Please let me know what you think.

Christanon 01/10/18 (Wed) 19:05:42 32cc75 No.586935

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>>586932

I think the Anglicans do, if that wouldn't be offensive to you, or even ours.

Now for the Catholic part:

Christ is the head of our(His, really) church, and He is fully man and fully God. The Old Testament is a figure of the new, and the New Testament of our Lord Jesus Christ reveals it.

The kingdom of God, which Christ is King of, is figured by the Davidic kingdom. As testified by the Scriptures, the Pope is the Prime Minister who is granted the keys to the gates of the kingdom by the King in His absence.

Mt16:19

>And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.

Is 22:20-22

>"Then it will come about in that day, That I will summon My servant Eliakim the son of Hilkiah, And I will clothe him with your tunic And tie your sash securely about him. I will entrust him with your authority, And he will become a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem and to the house of Judah. "Then I will set the key of the house of David on his shoulder, When he opens no one will shut, When he shuts no one will open

please read the context of both, I don't want to make my post filled with quotes. It will be evident that those are parallel texts, and that Christ intentionally used the language to make it evident, the office of Prime Minister of the kingdom of God has successors, and Peter was instituted and his successors were instituted to lead (John 21:15-18. more parallelism) His visible church on earth, while Christ is absent. As the Prime Minister would if his king was absent.

as for Mary, well we should take this one step at a time. you being outside the Church of God is a very big subject that we should take slowly.

Christanon 01/12/18 (Fri) 00:40:47 cc58b5 No.587494

>>586864

So, this "christ is head of church" is heresy? I'll pray for you, lad.

Christanon 01/12/18 (Fri) 00:45:24 cc58b5 No.587495

>>586875

Thank you, but i'm sorry tl;dr. Bad? To pray more i mean we really remember for whom we work, we talk, we act, etc. If any christian doing this, it would be great too,no? (But of course its not a brainwash one like islam prayer.)..

Christanon 01/12/18 (Fri) 00:50:36 cc58b5 No.587497

>>586887

>>>586849 (OP) (You)

>>my view is Christ is head of church, not a man

>We believe that Christ is the head of the Church too - the Pope is merely His vicar.

Its like you saying God NEEDED a vicar. He's omnipresent. He's taking control of all of us on earth from heaven.

And His kingdom is not from this earth, but pope acted like one (at least in the past). Which really makes me think.

Christanon 01/12/18 (Fri) 01:00:20 9ade14 No.587500

>>586849

Oh cool so the Apostles served no purpose, Christ didn't need them? So instead of their heirs and the Churches they established, we should listen to some dude on the internet?

Christanon 01/12/18 (Fri) 01:04:50 b8480f No.587501

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>>586849

>any reformed/Calvinist equivalent of divine office

Yes, Christ is our high priest (Hebrews 4:14-5:10) and the Holy Spirit our vicar (John 14:26), but They alone hold those offices. Nothing and no one else.

>Liturgy of the hours

We don't have a pre-defined, officially sanctioned set of prayers to say every few hours. We are to give praises and petition constantly just as we are in Christ. God doesn't like mere repetition (Mt. 6:7). That being said, the Lord's Prayer ought to form the basic form of many of your prayers, though not often the content, and we do give one another requests for praises and petitions to give to our Lord(James 5:13-16).

>>586873

This, tbh, though the ideal is always pic related

>>586887

Oh! So he takes the title of the Holy Spirit, gotcha. That doesn't seem blasphemous at all. :^)

>>586894

>Not appreciating the mystery of the Holy Spirit dwelling within us

>The current year + 3 in the Year of our Dear Lord and Savior

Christanon 01/12/18 (Fri) 01:05:28 cc58b5 No.587502

>>586935

>>>586932

>Christ is the head of our(His, really) church, and He is fully man and fully God. The Old Testament is a figure of the new, and the New Testament of our Lord Jesus Christ reveals it.

>The kingdom of God, which Christ is King of, is figured by the Davidic kingdom. As testified by the Scriptures, the Pope is the Prime Minister who is granted the keys to the gates of the kingdom by the King in His absence.

>Mt16:19

>>And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.

So, another church founded by even another apostles like Andrew bounded not in heaven because its not Peter's?

>Is 22:20-22

>>"Then it will come about in that day, That I will summon My servant Eliakim the son of Hilkiah, And I will clothe him with your tunic And tie your sash securely about him. I will entrust him with your authority, And he will become a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem and to the house of Judah. "Then I will set the key of the house of David on his shoulder, When he opens no one will shut, When he shuts no one will open

>please read the context of both, I don't want to make my post filled with quotes. It will be evident that those are parallel texts, and that Christ intentionally used the language to make it evident, the office of Prime Minister of the kingdom of God has successors, and Peter was instituted and his successors were instituted to lead (John 21:15-18. more parallelism) His visible church on earth, while Christ is absent. As the Prime Minister would if his king was absent.

What? Christ = GOD = Omnipresent. Why are you saying He's absence? And as his vicar, its vice, so its pope = God-substitute? I dont understand.

>as for Mary, well we should take this one step at a time. you being outside the Church of God is a very big subject that we should take slowly.

Im a Christian, not Maryian and other necromancies.

Christanon 01/12/18 (Fri) 01:13:51 cc58b5 No.587506

>>587500

>>>586849 (OP) (You)

>Oh cool so the Apostles served no purpose, Christ didn't need them? So instead of their heirs and the Churches they established, we should listen to some dude on the internet?

>they established.

You can listen to logan paul when I will read my Bible which is truly word of God.

>they established

Even after Jesus talked about being aservant, apostles already thinking about power and glory in you man(apostles)-made """churches""" read : Luke 22:24. And of course greatest of them all is Peter, right :^)

Christanon 01/12/18 (Fri) 02:06:21 cd69a7 No.587517

>>586849

You can still pray the daily office you don't have to be Anglican to do it http://www.missionstclare.com/english/January/cal.html