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By having kids.

>>586472

>implying having children should be avoided

(Psalms 127:3-5)

{3} "Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.

{4} As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth.

{5} Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate."

>>586474

Every year for decades and risking birth defects when a woman is in her 40s? A married couple at 20 would have 25-30 kids.

>>586477

Sounds good.

>>586478

I don't even see traditional Catholics do this. They peak out before 10. So, nearly all Christian marriages are ungodly because they don't have 20 kids?

>>586481

The reality is that no one is fertile enough to allow 20 new people to enter our world.

My dad worked with these 2 brothers from a family with 24 kids

Crazy

With that said I plan on having lots of no condom sex with my wife and having as many children as God seems fit

>>586472

There are exactly zero commandments or Levitical laws that prohibit sex with your wife when she isn’t ovulating. But still, having lots of kids is a good thing.

>>586481

People aren't as fertile as you think. That being said if you don't want kids don't have sex.

>>586478

>>586483

St Catherine of Siena had I think about 25 siblings or something. Half of them died shortly after birth though.

>Ywn be rich enough or get married young enough to have 30 kids

Feels bad.

>>586472

>>586477

Do you not have faith in God? It is written, "Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the LORD: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb? saith thy God." He knows how many children are right for you.

>>586500

Shoot for 30, even if you fail you'll have had more than 2

>rich enough

george's guidestone idiocracy tier meme.

>>586477

Birth defects is a (((meme))). Yes you'll have defects in any birth if you give them a good goyim western pufa diet. Feed properly with pastured livestock and fruits like the ancient world did though and you'll have no defects. Your post OP just shows how much our societal knowledge has devolved. Married couples are supposed to have a child every three years (women can't get pregnant when they breastfeed of which you are supposed to do for two years to not have a cretin baby) until menopause which usually means 10 children. This is how God intended hence why he had it written in scripture.

Contraceptive methods are preferable to raising a kid without an adequate familiar environment.

>>586525

OP here. Really interesting answer. Thanks.

>>586531

Don't use the plural form while talking about abstinence, it's just one practice

>>586531

Preferable to what?

>>586477

>woman is in her 40s

>birth defects

That's actually a non-issue and has no basis whatsoever in medical science outside of a 0.05% potential increase in the risk of autism. The reality of it is that women are the primary caregivers and teachers of the children. Do you trust your child's care and education to some 20 year old idiot who only moved out of her parent's house because she got married?

Women should be having the majority of their children in their late 20s to early 30s - same with men - and can keep on havin' them until menopause. Women are born with 6-7 million eggs. You do the math on how many monthly periods a woman can have before she runs out.

Stop buying into 1930s "science" and memes.

>>586472

Women aren't fertile during the entire month so just have sex during non fertile period.

I don't know the context but just from what you quoted, to me it sounds like Augustine is talking about practicing NFP for life so that the wife never conceives. That is very different from abstaining for a time because of grave circumstances with the intent to eventually have children.

>>586546

20 year old faithful waifu is the height of a nuclear family, be proud

People of the ancient days used animal intestines as makeshift condoms.

There is no sin in having sex with your wife, and no sin in remaining chaste for brief periods.

Whats wrong with nfp?

>>586605

It says you can do nfp but you have to fast the whole time then

>>586597

Then they decided to take the intestine out of the animal

>>586625

>1 Corinthians 7

What in 1 Cor. 7 contradicts the Catholic and/or Orthodox position?

>>586481

If your wife breastfeeds her pregnancies will be naturally spaced out 2 years apart. That's how anderson does it. You just have to work diligently and have faith that God will help you along the way.

Matthew 6:31 - 6:32

>>586628

>I say this as a concession, not as a command. I wish that all of you were as I am. But each of you has your own gift from God; one has this gift, another has that.

Form what I have gathered, this would strongly go against the Catholic position on marriage, since they encourages everyone to marry, because Genesis 9:7 says that they should "go forth and reproduce". But it is clear that all people that can be chaste, should be, and it is also clear that the Apostle wished that everyone that read his words would become chaste.

Then comes 1 Timothy 3, sorry for the sudden jump but its part of the problem. Now, let me quote the passage: "The saying is trustworthy: If anyone aspires to wthe office of overseer, he desires a noble task. Therefore an overseer must be above reproach, the husband of one wife".

Now, the Bible has clearly mentioned married priests. Some churches in communion with the Roman Catholic Church, such as the Eastern Catholic church, even noticed this and asked permission for married clergy.

>>586634

Catholics clearly don't encourage everyone to marry, since they're harder on clerical celibacy than we are. And both Catholics and Orthodox are held by the standards of monasticism, and monks and nuns most definitely must not be married.

>Some churches in communion with the Roman Catholic Church, such as the Eastern Catholic church, even noticed this and asked permission for married clergy.

No Catholic or Orthodox church allows for married bishops though. But that is only a disciplinary matter. There isn't something intrinsically wrong with a bishop who's married.