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e7c4d4 No.585357

>the moment you realize ex Godless communist east is now more Christian than the west

>Meanwhile America was never a Christian nation

accf4c No.585359

File: c3de1e4b5b9850e⋯.png (552.27 KB, 1484x762, 742:381, the east is not degener-.png)


ee4d85 No.585360

>>585357

America was founded as a Christian nation and the founding fathers were Christian or pro-Christian


d29fbd No.585380

File: 3c0bca03ba603a0⋯.png (69.58 KB, 1224x1137, 408:379, 1489146721628.png)

>>585359

Feels good being from Poland.

Can we move the Vatican to Kraków already?


27342e No.585382

File: a0de6e16d4e1b96⋯.jpg (49.19 KB, 826x667, 826:667, 1421935596390.jpg)

>>585360

The founding fathers were Freemasons.


3894fb No.585384

>>585357

>Implying the Russian orthodox church isnt a propaganda wing for the Russian government

God bless patriarch Putin


0fdf0a No.585385

File: 805953b297de1ac⋯.jpg (9.54 KB, 210x230, 21:23, st,small,215x235-pad,210x2….jpg)

>try to uproot Christianity

>fail


6203c2 No.585390

>>585359

If you're from Polan and you're happy, clap your hands !


d6073a No.585393

File: 5b5bc4dfee8b969⋯.png (1.39 MB, 1212x1564, 303:391, 5b5bc4dfee8b96901bb9c12059….png)

75% of Americans identify as Christians. Whether they actually practice as much as you want is debatable.

Most are protestant and live in the sub-urban areas, though there are also large Catholic populations closer to cities like Chicago. The one exception is the Midwest, where there are an enormous amount of Middle Eastern Christians, mostly Lebanese, Assyrian, and Armenian.

> muh based russia

Even France has a higher church attendance rating than Russia. I want Russia to be a pinnacle of christianity, but the fact is it's still a massively atheist country (30%+ identifying) full of disease, drunkeness, and immorality. Even the orthodox, being the single largest group in Russia, are still only around half of the country.

Americans may be degenerate, fat, lazy, and obnoxious, but they are still the largest christian nation on this Earth, and most of the people, despite what liberal media says, are christian. Russia has a long way to go, and so do some of the ex-Soviet slavic nations.

If anyone is going to 'usurp' the US in Christianity, it will be China, where there are already 90million+ Christians. The communist gov't trying to shut them down is only making the faith spread like wildfire. In addition, even Indonesia will be Christian if the 2million/yr conversion rate continues there. Russia is not Byzantine, and even if it were, those fools are once again proving themselves to prefer barbarian Muslim nations to their christian brothers in the West.

Even the Patriach of Russia says they are closer to Islam than to Catholicism. That should say enough


d6073a No.585395

File: 760e61642533579⋯.jpg (60.52 KB, 736x556, 184:139, 756d8cd58dff99dcba4b9d0047….jpg)

>>585393

To expand on that final point, Russia has been a massive ally to Iran, Iraq, and Syria, more specifically, the shi'a powers in the latter two countries. Many proclaim that this is great news, however their only reason for involvement is to:

> a) counter the West and make life a pain in the bass for us

> b) secure ports and power in the middle east

Anybody who thinks Russia is a savior is blind. I myself am a Lebanese Christian, and Russia's 'benevolent ally' Hezbollah (Shi'a Militia) has taken hostage of my homeland and turned it into a dump. They make headlines saving one or two lousy churches, but at the same time, they execute christians who openly denounce them. Their leader's mission is to make Lebanon a Shi'a Islamic country. They aren't doing it by terror the way ISIS did, but by politics and pressure. The fact is Hezbollah is simply Shi'a ISIS. If it wasn't one, it would be the other.

So to round all of that together, Russia is supporting Iran, a country that lashes and tortures Christians, and its proxy Hezbollah, which threatens the existence of the final bastion of Christian power in the Middle East. Not so based anymore, goys.


d6073a No.585396

File: e54b1a30dd9f4bd⋯.png (316.39 KB, 680x401, 680:401, c7dab0ade2b1d2db58b947d3c4….png)

>>585395

One FINAL note.

> muh based hezbollah is fighting the jews

Literally 100% of all conflicts Lebanon has had with Israel have been because Hezbollah chimped out and mindlessly attacked the jews, and the jews outrageously overreacted and attacked Lebanon. I still hate Israel, both because I am Catholic, and because I am Lebanese, but only an idiot would praise Hezbollah for fighting wars with the people they started them with.

On top of that, when I was watching the 2006 Leb-Israeli War from the mountains, and the jews were bombing the life out of Lebanon, Hezbollah were cowards. Lebanon offered boats to people to escape the war, and 90% of the people on those boats were Shi'a Hezbollah fighters. So tough.


c95448 No.585402

>>585359

Poland was part of the communist east to, genius


c95448 No.585403

File: 25652b1ceb75f8f⋯.jpg (579.07 KB, 928x2049, 928:2049, cucktholics.jpg)

>>585393

nice meme image


6203c2 No.585411

>>585403

Imagine your pic wouldn't be a bad meme full of dishonesty, history revisionism and ignorance. That would even be WORSE. Right now there are churches schism'ing from each other. Russia from Constantinople, Jerusalem from Antioch. Over worldly matters. Over power and terrirory.

Don't you think that this is insanely grave matter anyway, but now imagine you'd be "the one true Catholic Church". Dude that's one huge joke.

Peter was the primate. Primate means supreme ruler. The guy that naturally will have the last word on ANY matter. Everywhere. Ever. Since there have been rulers. And there is and can be no doubt about it.


accf4c No.585413

>>585402

Yeah, the only bit that isn't murdering all their children.


ee4d85 No.585414

>>585382

Freemasons weren't evil yet


e2b8e9 No.585416

>>585357

Russian Orthodox are worst orthodox tbh


dba932 No.585425

>>585360

Which one?

Hamilton yes, but not overly devout

Most other important ones seem to be deists/gnostics


3894fb No.585433

>>585425

Even a lot of the deist founders were Christian deists. They may have been heretics but they weren't hostile to Christianity or anything.

Then you got faggots like Thomas Paine.

Religion wasn't the only issue the founders were divided on, some of them hated the idea of democracy. Judging America based on the founders is retarded seeing ass they all had different opinions on everything.


b454cc No.585435

>>585425

>Most other important ones seem to be deists/gnostics

That's how it gets presented today. Look at the background of the signers of the declaration of independence

http://www.adherents.com/gov/Founding_Fathers_Religion.html


6f9b62 No.585443

>>585393

>The one exception is the Midwest, where there are an enormous amount of Middle Eastern Christians, mostly Lebanese, Assyrian, and Armenian.

Now I know where to find monophysite gf


6f9b62 No.585444

>>585414

This is your brain on Americanism.


6ef361 No.585454

>>585435

>mostly Episcopal or Anglican

Heresy. No wonder America is shit.

And they were freemasons as well but that's an obvious consequence of being an heretic.


e68235 No.585502

>>585454

Yeah North America should be more like central and South America, an impoverished Roman Catholic shithole full of communists.


55aa10 No.585511

>>585357

is not more Christian than the west.

This is the land from which the Antichrist will come.

>>Meanwhile America was never a Christian nation


6ef361 No.585537

>>585502

>forgetting about europe

>inb4 refugees because only protestant countries have them

>better living in poverty than having 99% of the below 12yo female pop not Virgin.


38e9d9 No.585546

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e68235 No.585548

>>585537

The Roman Catholicism in the new world is trash and you know it. Central and South America are some of the worst shitholes on the planet and are fueling drugs, socialism and violence across the west. Compare them to Protestant North America. Even the Catholic parts of America and Canada are hotbeds of communism and generational poverty and drug addiction.

There’s no comparison, people escape from Catholic countries to live in Protestant ones. What does that tell you?


ee4d85 No.585549

File: bdd6f6947bd63e8⋯.jpg (114.75 KB, 700x700, 1:1, Rome vs America.jpg)

>>585509

This so much

Reminder one of the grievances listed by the First Continental Congress was "the act passed in the same session [of parliament] for establishing the Roman Catholic religion, in the province of Quebec."


27342e No.585550

File: 8d61ad616caecd3⋯.png (58.63 KB, 624x888, 26:37, edd9dadbc4ea3859ad0f440311….png)

>>585509

>Insulting the Orthodox Church by calling them Papist Catholics

This is why the "protestants have no theological backing" meme exists.


e12d7a No.585574

>>585509

Here's another (you). Now go back to /pol/ or /r9k/ or wherever you crawled here from.


e7c4d4 No.585707

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>>585360

>America was founded as a Christian nation and the founding fathers were Christian or pro-Christian

This is what Americans actually believe


6f9b62 No.585709

>>585548

>people escape from Catholic countries to live in Protestant ones. What does that tell you?

That Protestants lay up their treasures on earth and not in heaven :^)


43b715 No.585743

This seems like a mildly decent thread to derail with this question: how can I convert a deist? He was Methodist, and now is deist, and so considers himself to still be "Christian" (when this is clearly not the case). Frankly at this point I don't care what denomination he chooses, just as long as he renounces deism. So what can I do to help him?


3894fb No.585748

File: 581171476027bea⋯.jpg (18.02 KB, 209x320, 209:320, awaypoint-jesusflag.jpg)

>>585707

America was founded by free Mason (even though not all of them were free masons) therefore it will always been a nation of free masons. There is no such as the conversion of nations, God can't draw straight with crooked lines.

You know, one day America will cure cancer and non-Americans will complain that America put all the oncologists out of work.

But when a natural disaster strikes whatever shithole you crawled out of, your country will beg for our help and even though your ungrateful helpless country doesn't deserve it we're still going to because we are better than that and we are better than you


3894fb No.585751

File: baa6fe78b9815dc⋯.png (38.7 KB, 415x378, 415:378, Screenshot_20180107-233016….png)

>>585502

>>585548

>Catholic nations are shitholes

As a Baptist, you would know a shithole when you spot wouldn't you? lol

Go back to your African mudhut prot.


3560f5 No.586261

>>585360

Founding fathers were freemasons.

Freemasons are excommunicated basically satanists condemned by dozens of popes.


5e5f4b No.586264

>>585380

>Can we move the Vatican to Kraków already?

We keep it in Italy because Italians are already a lost cause, you fool!

Jokes aside, Rome will always be the city where the Vatican is. And as a mostly Italian person (born in Italy) I am sorely disappointed with myself, my people and my Nation as a whole…


fe4a57 No.586319

>>585549

> be loyal to God and His Church

> be loyal to a godless Talmudic nation in terminal decline

Really tough choice there.


e8df5c No.586329

>>585751

>Racism isn't allowed. As Christians, we know even the oppressed are made in the image of God

>Wait what is that Baptists are popular in Africa?

>NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER


3894fb No.586332

>>586329

I never the N word but you just it 4 times

Anon, baring false witness is a sin, maybe you should go to confession


fe2434 No.586333

>>585357

>Russia

>Christian

Russia got blown the fuck out by gommunism. Christianity is high in numbers, but in reality it is pathetically low.

>>585359

Why isn't the meme abortion map a bannable offense? Literally "needle in your brother's eye" tier, and considering the gravity of the subject, we should weep together for this fact instead of using it as a weapon in Internet debates.


b13169 No.586335

>>586261

>>585444

Gotta give some credit to minor members of Freemasonry, Freemasonry greatest trick is to insist that it's Philantropical movement that loves mankind and all religions like Christianism.

Making them seem some sort of cozy Buddhists. When no, they are outright Satanist. But only the Upper Echelons are aware of this, the lower-mid tier are there just to find business tiers and actually find the rituals retarded but still better than getting drunk.


b13169 No.586336

>>586333

>Why isn't the meme abortion map a bannable offense?

1) It's been part of imageboard banter since forever

2) It actually got people interested in Christianity as (not originally intended) side effect


e8df5c No.586340

File: 328e619f5cfa474⋯.mp4 (425.25 KB, 360x360, 1:1, 328e619f5cfa474edfe5db9e9d….mp4)

>>586332

>Okay look I spit at Africans for living in Mudhuts but I didn't specifically say nigger so you're bearing false witness

The amount of mental gymnastics for you must be incredible.


c6cc86 No.586351

File: abee15592e7ae34⋯.png (648.53 KB, 2824x2600, 353:325, chatolics....png)


e7c4d4 No.586373

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>>586333

>but in reality it is pathetically low.

Russians are not putting out Christ hating propaganda. Jewmerica is


df3bc9 No.586376

File: c6a27c417a61776⋯.jpg (139.22 KB, 678x768, 113:128, image.jpg)

Only about 50% of Russia is orthodox, and they have a pathetically low church attendance rating. Russian culture was destroyed by Communism and it may never truly recover. All that's left are drunks, immoral government agents, and a small handful of people who actually attend church and take it seriously. But once they enter church they're fed with Putin-inspired garbage like this:

> 'We orthodox, east Christians, are more like Islam than Catholics. So Muslims are your brothers, not those Catholics and Protestants who make up 85% of Christianity.'

> 'The West is corrupt, they don't have Gpd at all and Pope Francis isn't cool'

First off, orthodoxy is not similar to Islam. Being moody and conservative doesn't make two religions brothers. To deny alliance with other Christians is absurd.

Secondly, only a small amount of the West are rabidly anti-God liberal radicals. The fact is, even France and Spain are more Christian than Russia.

So enough RussiaInsider propaganda. Putin isn't a savior, nor an authentic Christian after his comments. Videos of him in church are just propaganda for pol tier morons.

He can't even protect Christians in the Middle East. He claims to do so, but then arms Iran (which kills and tortures Christians) and Hezbollah (which is turning half-Christian Lebanon into an Islamic caliphate one year at a time). Unless the Middle East Christians create their own militia and get catholic funding, then Putin has done more harm than good. Just because he opposes the West doesn't make him good at all.

And besides, China has 70million Christians now. If anyone is the new Christendom in the East, it'll be China.


e8df5c No.586377

>>586376

>China has 70million Christians now.

Mostly protestant, right?


49535c No.586386

>>586377

Catholicism is illegal in China. The Chinese government created a faux Catholic Church, but it is only Catholic in appearance but is not in communion with Rome (which means it isn't really Catholic).

Catholic Priests that recognize Rome and try to have ties with Rome are thrown in jail. Some get away with operating underground.

The Catholic Church is legal, however, in the special administrative zones of Macau and Hong Kong.


8a3c32 No.586398

>>586376

putin isn't our tsar, he's ex kgb

that would be like judging catholics based on socialist pope


8a3c32 No.586400

>>585411

so it only took you guys about 1000 years to finally realize that or what


df3bc9 No.586401

>>586398

Putin is taking credit for orthodoxy being revived in Russia, and his propaganda tries to make him appear as a godly man. What I was saying is that even what the church independently says just sounds like echoes of him


8a3c32 No.586407

>>586401

nah, the patriarchs put up with him, but ask any priest over here: he is not to be trusted


67978f No.586631

>>586407

>nah, the patriarchs put up with him

it's the other way around


5e7a9d No.586669




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