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>>585014

Thanks, but I already know this, I forgot to mention it. I didn't mean that Jesus "shared" characteristics with other gods in the sense that they were born on the 25th of a virgin and all that. What I meant is that this foreign god is the epitome of goodness, preaching love, and Jesus is seen as the "offshoot", if you will, of that god. Take Dr. Peterson in the video. Watch from 11:00, and Peterson will mention what I stated in the OP.

>>585012

This is handled the same way the Magi are: humans can come close to the truth using logic and science, but revelation completes the picture. It's also why the ancient Greeks deduced a lot of the characteristics of God on their own.

>>585031

I didn't really understand, would you mind expounding?

>>585032

Do you know the story of the Magi who visited the newborn Jesus?

>>585012

-Historically Jesus is real.

-Texts about Him are written in a 50 year distance from His death and resurrection. (1 generation therefore the source can be an eye witness, aka the apostles)

-prophecies come true and the best one is that Christians will be persecuted for His name (go to London and see how the Christian community is treated and how saying you`re a Christian is followed by negative opinions)

-when Jesus said go to the would and spread the Gospel, this literally happened already

-the argument that Jesus is one of the many gods there exist is bullcrap because Jesus is totally against other gods

-His message has shaped the greatest societies in history.

-Crimes committed in His name are pure politics and are used as tactics today as well (ex: Putin calling for Christians to protect their homeland under the premise that God loves Russia. Then he goes to trade and talk trade with (((merchants))) and (((political advisers))) and also hide secret ufos)

-adding the : i had a near to death experience and saw God is no different from other religions so don`t go too far on that

-in february there will be a great documentary "Alien Intrusion" where there will be great evidence to support the effect of Jesus` name on demonic entities. Hint: Jesus goes full rampage on those who threaten His followers.

Alien intrusion trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZxYkM7PB7U

>inb4 the source includes shitty sources from guys that appeared on "ancient aliens"

they are good sources. trust me on this one.

>>585035

Yes, I do.

>>585040

Seems like an interesting trailer.

>also hide secret ufos

I've heard tales about this. Tell me more.

Also, do you think that since the Bible makes no mention of God creating other beings other than us and animals, aliens don't exist? I think that the (((elite))) will use aliens as a way to stray us further away from Christ, were these aliens will actually be demons masquerading as aliens.

>>585044

They decided to follow a star based on no revealed knowledge and came close to the right place, is my point.

>>585051

Oh okay. I see your point now. Thanks.

>>585012

>Marduk is a god that closely resembles Jesus

In Enûma Elish, a civil war between the gods was growing to a climactic battle. The Anunnaki gods gathered together to find one god who could defeat the gods rising against them. Marduk, a very young god, answered the call and was promised the position of head god.

To prepare for battle, he makes a bow, fletches arrows, grabs a mace, throws lightning before him, fills his body with flame, makes a net to encircle Tiamat within it, gathers the four winds so that no part of her could escape, creates seven nasty new winds such as the whirlwind and tornado, and raises up his mightiest weapon, the rain-flood. Then he sets out for battle, mounting his storm-chariot drawn by four horses with poison in their mouths. In his lips he holds a spell and in one hand he grasps a herb to counter poison.

First, he challenges the leader of the Anunnaki gods, the dragon of the primordial sea Tiamat, to single combat and defeats her by trapping her with his net, blowing her up with his winds, and piercing her belly with an arrow.

Then, he proceeds to defeat Kingu, who Tiamat put in charge of the army and wore the Tablets of Destiny on his breast, and "wrested from him the Tablets of Destiny, wrongfully his" and assumed his new position. Under his reign humans were created to bear the burdens of life so the gods could be at leisure.

Very Jesus-like, what can i say.

>>585068

Marduk was probably a bad example, I will concede. You can't deny though that there are some similarities between the two in regards to the good vs evil episode.

>>585025

Peterson is an idiot

>Pic unrelated

Look up the documentary 'Zeitgiest Debunked' if you want yo learn the truth of their statements.

St. John Chrysostom, in commentary on Galatians or homilies on the Gospel of St. Matthew, says that demons saw the prophecies about the Messiah in the Old Testament and so they embodied those things and went into the nations to be worshipped. I wish I could find the text, but I can't remember. The argument is more compelling.

Anyways this type of inquiry isn't useful, I would just consider if Christ rose from the dead are not by considering the evidence.

>intellectuals

Lmao

>>585080

>good vs evil episode.

If you want that, you can take zoroastrianism as the prototype, which ties into >>585035

>>585049

Aliens are likely secret government experiments.

The only extraterrestrial life that exists is probably some shitty bacteria.

>>585297

Start looking at Ancient Aliens, we are not alone. There are more enemies than you think there are, only thing is that they are kept secret.

>>585049

>God creating other beings other than us and animals, aliens don't exist?

Actually it may mean that they exist. Infact, you yourself defined what they will be. Merely animals, a cattle to be used by us. But it is just a speculation.

Of course this thread will going to be shitty with all the conspiracy theories and such trash, so i'll just sage and leave the thread

Similar consensus equates the validity of a truth.

>>585080

I mean on some levels of imagery sure, Christ beats up a great beast of the sea in Revelations but that's about as far as it goes. It'd be a stronger case if we were talking about Ba'al though.

>>585318

No, there is only one enemy. You better learn to recognize him and stop pretending he's not what he is.

>>585095

yeah, pretty sure Tolkein made this argument when he was trying to convince CS Lewis of the gospels' veracity to convert Lewis to Christianity

From a letter of Lewis':

"Now what Dyson and Tolkien showed me was this: that if I met the idea of sacrifice in a Pagan story I didn’t mind it at all: again, that if I met the idea of a god sacrificing himself to himself . . . I liked it very much and was mysteriously moved by it: again, that the idea of the dying and reviving god (Balder, Adonis, Bacchus) similarly moved me provided I met it anywhere except in the Gospels. The reason was that in Pagan stories I was prepared to feel the myth as profound and suggestive of meanings beyond my grasp even tho’ I could not say in cold prose ‘what it meant’.

``Now the story of Christ is simply a true myth: a myth working on us in the same way as the others, but with this tremendous difference that it really happened.``"

>>585095

This is the correct answer. There was an original understanding of the divine order which was only preserved among the Hebrews. All other religions are degradations from that original understanding.

>>585095

>Because Scholars have it backwards. Jesus isn't a copy, Marduk et al are (proto)types of Christ

How are they prototypes of Christ when the Sumerian, Egyptian, and other religions predate Christianity?

>>585820

Learn English and the answer will come

>>585012

>How do you guys counter the arguments made form intellectuals were they say that Jesus is a copy (more or less), or is based on past civilizations' deities?

#1 by reading the pagan deities Wiki page for 5mins and realizing the stark differences outweigh the alleged similarities

# 2 by realizing that sharing similarities with ancient characters doesn't really imply anything theologically important

>>585328

great video, thanks lad :)

>>585040

I hope this trailer presumes that there is a full movie made already, or else we may end up with a famous (in some places) story of a "Gray State" trailer and its director "killing his family and himself" for "muslim dune godess".

>>585049

It is well known fact that every so-called ayylium is in fact either a modern day cyborg…

> because there were literally ZERO abductions before the start of 20th century

> only a few "experiments" before roswell incident

> crowley's famous "trapezoid" was painted in some 1904-1905

… or (if you are "lucky" enough) an actual demon, the evil presence of which you would immediately recognize without doubt. And as we, as a Christians, must know - every false "god" is afraid of a One True Holy God. Not only do they fear Him, they are also afraid just of His Name!

>>585060

lucifer is a "black star" upon which many modern "artists" do pray.

the devil cannot create, the best he can do is corrupt and pervert

basically, all religions will be similar to Christianity because they are all perversions of it

luckily for the devil, the most potent lies are the ones that are almost true

Basically this >>586899

and this >>585095