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c4e11c No.584965

Has anyone thought about converting bulks of the /pol/ userbase? I'd say about 1/3rd of the board is already Christian, why not make that more?

the reason I'm writing this is because I'm not educated enough to try making a thread on /pol/ about this myself

Also worth trying on cuckchan /pol/ since that place is more chaotic.

Thoughts?

77aed7 No.584967

>>584965

Don't they just say Christianity is Jewish and subverted "strong" pagan societies?


e3acad No.584971

>>584967

I believe the issue, to them, is how spineless they view Christians in recent years.


c4e11c No.584974

File: 0a4de6d8d1951fa⋯.png (175.1 KB, 649x325, 649:325, Przechwytywanie.PNG)

>>584967

There isn't an average opinion on religion on /pol/, there are people who post Deus Vult memes and praise Poland while there are others who larp as pagans in occultist threads. There are also atheists who don't seem to care about either side, and I think they could be capitalized on.


848eb5 No.584982

You'll find that /pol/ is really just a bunch of shills shilling each other to death.


45731a No.584985

>>584971

This is a big problem for a lot of them. I think we could push a philosophy that emphasizes the “Sell your cloak and buy a sword passages” that liberal “””Christians””” tend to ignore. It would be non-denom specific too since it’s straight from the Bible. DEUS VULT is also good and we should continue pointing out that Christians straight up dominated pagans with force, not “subverted” them.


017c61 No.584987

>Has anyone

Yes and numerous times threads like this were posted here, meanwhile other places seems to be ignored.


c4e11c No.584989

>>584967

Other places like where? The only boards that are active are either porn, us, video games or politics.


c11198 No.585004

>>584965

Nice initiative but /pol/ is being raided by gays, shills and leftists (sjw included). From time to time there are Christian threads, sometime atheist or pagan. If it`s a Christian thread support it. Atheist or pagan? Meme warfare. One of the main things about /pol/ is that it isn`t a hive mind, or to put it in Christian terms: won`t follow a set of rules or principles. Compared to /pol/, /christian/ is a place where all acknowledge God as the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, events from the Bible are true and so on.

Conclusion:

1)Start learning (even watching youtube vids is useful but make sure the arguments are supported by historical data and proof)

2)Be proud you worship God. Don`t be afraid of 13 yo on message boards.

3)Engage on your own the enemy. Even if you have 3 pagans laughing at you.

tips:

>tree worshiper

>human sacrifice was a thing during paganism, would you sacrifice yourself for a stone?

>believes in fairies and unicorns and elves

>muh historical evidence that a certain god does exists.

>loki is tranny, thor is seed drinker

these kill the larpagans

>muh proof giant cloud exploded

>muh knowledge of everything so there is not even 1% chance God exists.

>there is no good or evil but will obey law that clearly proves what is good and what bad

this kind of kills the atheist, it`s not like you can kill one. atheists are already brain dead.

Stay strong and praise the Lord!


649272 No.585006

I am afraid of going there…I am afraid I'll become racist for real. I'm Italian, I moved to England and I respect the culture and people of this Country. But what scares me is how Europe is changing, especially due to our foolishness: we are giving up on God and we are not having children, we elect people who are willing to replace us with migrants who refuse to integrate and understand our (now almost lost) roots and traditions. Again, the main issue is us, for we gave up on God and on our identity (something we protected for we knew it was part of what God gave to us in a way).

I really don't know…lately I found myself hating my own Country and people.


759384 No.585015

>>585004

I've tried to debate pagans before but they, just like the atheists, never use actual arguments. (In fact, I've seen them fall back on the same arguments the atheists use, and I have never had a pagan tell me that the pagan gods exist in the same sense that I say God exists, just vague statements). It's all muh kike on a stick muh ancestral religion muh paul muh jewish conspiracy. They have already shut their ears.


b23906 No.585030

File: 7213932316183d4⋯.png (137.32 KB, 535x1753, 535:1753, 1514736854572.png)

>>584965

They always mention things about the Catholic Church and they always bring up the pedo priests, which I fully agree with them on that topic, as we all do. They always bring up the idea that Jesus is just offshoots of other religions. They always bring up the idea that Yahweh is El or something like that, where Yahweh is not "God" "God", but the demiurge is. They always bring up quotes out of context (such as the turn the other cheek, where they will equivocate this to Jamal screwing your wife). They always bring up the idea that Joseph is a cuck, and Jesus is a bastard. They always bring up the idea of why Christianity is the "right" religion, when there are thousands of other religions. They always bring up the idea that Jesus and Paul advocate communism. They always bring up the idea that Christianity is cucked, start calling us christcucks. They always bring up the idea of the crusades and how they essentially "destroyed" Europe. They always bring up pic related. They always bring up how Christianity destroyed the Roman Empire.

Did I miss anything?


41815a No.585043

>>585004

I think it might also be beneficial to bring up the fact that the Catholic Church is fascist - they like that sort of thing.


bfef72 No.585045

>>585043

mmmuh evil Church telling me not to mastrubate and to go to confession once a year, freaking oppression man

Ever read how wonderful Calvin's Geneva looked like? Go read a history book.


c11198 No.585048

>>585030

:)))))

U actually made a list. I am most impressed.


41815a No.585050

>>585045

I'm not saying the church is oppressing anyone or that it practices an evil form of fascism.

It is certainly not a democracy, though. It shouldn't be.


b23906 No.585054

>>585048

It's kind of sad really. What makes me even more mad is that for most of these points, I cannot present a rebuttal on them. There's too much information. I don't know where to start, for Christianity and Catholicism in general.


c11198 No.585063

>>585054

one way i deal with this issue (i can`t prove the whole Christian faith in a thread) is i simply engage in insulting their beliefs and calling for who they are. Shills

>b-but anon, love thy enemy

I love them and i pray for their souls but i don`t give a damn about their beliefs. Heresies and new age garbage deserves no respect. We are anons here. It`s not the real world. Call their actions what they are:

-ruining society (gays and trans, swj, communist lovers)

-destroying morals ( the famous there is no good or evil argument)

-laugh at gnostics when they claim they claim they are gods

-prove them that Christianity is scientifically based (yes, history is a science)

-joke on those atheists that claim miracles can`t happen

Joke on everyone who denies the Biblical truth. It`s important to keep in mind they did not come to have a civilized argument with you but rather shill and laugh at it. Little to none search for answers or salvation so keep in mind that out of 10 anons, 9 are shills and 1 is a normal guy who actually seeks a debate and answers. If talking with a normal person seeking answers, avoid the shills comments and concentrate all wisdom in the constructive dialogue.

don`t go deus vult style, it`s too much of a meme.


9c4a2d No.585067

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/pol/ hates Christianity because of Christians failure to grow a spine and practice what they preach with the ferver that is apparently required by Christ. They hate you for the same reason they hate kikes and niggers, because you're all a walking stereotype and never fail to live up to their own shallow expectations instead of meeting your own expectations that you have for your life, people, and succession of your beliefs (like kikes and niggers)

You're not going to "convert" /pol/ because no matter how good your rhetoric, arguments, logic, rhyme and reason for the superiority of your beliefs are, because you are what they expect you to be, you will never complete your pipedream of a goal. That's all this is, is a vision that will never happen because you as a community, you as a religion, you as a people don't have the integrity or the collective fortitude to be seen as a positive side or lifestyle worth joining. Look at yourselves, you can't even agree to disagree. Why would anyone want to become apart of a community so heavily divided and can't even come to a firm conclusion on your thousands of years of dogma and doctrine. You constantly piss and pout over who the true "Christians" are when you all follow essentially the same Nicene Creed. God, I can already hear the angry typing of high and mighty keyboard theologians trying to correct me already as you completely miss the point of what I'm trying to say. That's how divided and sanctimonious you all are.

Go ahead and fedora tip me away from your no fap hugbox, but if you want my advice, here's what is going to happen. You're all going to start a missionary effort to a board full of kike shills and you're going to do A-OK until a Baptist disagrees with a Catholic and corrects the Baptist for his insolence then an Orthodox details the entire effort by correcting the Catholic and you're all going to eat each other alive. You know why? Can you take a wild guess? Because you aren't fighting for Christ. You're competing for your own flock. Your own ideas. Your own dogma. At the end of the day, you may know your shit better than me and anyone else, but so long as the human spirit of competition and domination exists, you will fail. Either you will put your differences aside, agree on something concrete all at once, unite Catholic with Orthodox, Orthodox with Caatholic and go forth, or one sect or denomination will out compete the other and those people will act alone. Thats what you dont understand about /pol/s flavor of people. You won't do shit because you will derail your own efforts as soon as you start, because like NatSocs, you're all in it for your own ideas and people and won't let some outsiders get in the way of your own unique, ultimate end goal.

If the devil is real, then he's made sure that a 2 point something billion strong religion is splintered into so many die hard factions that Christians can never preach to all the earth because they're too busy fighting each other.


41815a No.585070

>>585067

Get a grip dude


2a427b No.585071

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>>585067

What a windbag


ba1f5b No.585072

>>585067

Copy pasta. But wrong, since you think /pol/ is one person.


bfef72 No.585079

>>584965

It's very hard because Christianity is in such a sorry state today. And pope's statements don't help either

I remember one theologian talking about how the Church today has become a charity and how Christ didn't institute a charity, but wanted to save souls. I mean even if they become, for example, Catholic and try to be anti immigration and anti degeneracy, they'd feel weird because the pope is basically scolding them.

Furthermore, they don't take protestants seriously with their female clergy, gender neutral Jesus, gay friendly shenanigans and so on.

So what can Christianity offer to them when all the mainstream denominations follow the same liberal line?


c11198 No.585081

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>>585067

You hurt my emotions anon. Pay for their reparation! NOW!


b340d8 No.585088

File: c075faed6e39a3a⋯.png (120.02 KB, 506x400, 253:200, spoonfeeding.png)

>>585079

It's because showing love is harder than showing affection. Modern society makes outwards displays of affection easy, and rewards them gratuitously, whilst pouring scorn on love and ostracizing those who would show love to their neighbour. Love is about doing what's best for a person. Affection is just about making him feel nice.

Love involves criticism. Love involves arguments. Love involves telling people things they don't want to hear. Love definitely involves offending people. Affection means applauding a person for choosing a way, whatever that might be. Love means showing him the true way.

Christianity is supposed to be religion of brotherly love - a great body of people who are willing to tell people the truth rather than merely what they want to hear. But increasingly this isn't so. Just look at the Church of England for a clear example of a body of Christians who have completely replaced love with affection.

Even when genuine, affection can be selfish, because sentimental. And affection is easily fabricated for selfish, manipulative ends. But love is always selfless. Love is the opposite of power.


392bf6 No.585092

>>585089

Epic meme bro, it's almost like Christ didn't have a human anture or something!


759384 No.585093

>>585089

>how can God die

Jesus was Human and Divine


c11198 No.585115

>>585089

Long story short.

Jesus is God

God can`t die

Jesus comes as human and dies like one

Jesus being God and God can`t die implies no more death to human souls

The sacrifice was meant to break the chains of death and give us immortal life

Forgiveness is because God in the form of man gave himself for us therefore showing He care more about us than His Own Son

>inb4 he gave himself for himself

no, it was to break the chains of death and care for us. read above.


372712 No.585117

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>585089

3/10 got me to respond


08c7f1 No.585119

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>>584987

This. I mean shit, even pic related are more open to Christ's teachings, despite being horribly mislead. /pol/ is usually picked on (and rightly so) because it's the most popular board and also because some posters here are recovering /pol/acks. We should evangelize wherever, but probably start where we have a foothold or aim for smaller fish.


de51ce No.585124

File: 86836c665153d3d⋯.png (192.8 KB, 479x455, 479:455, Quotthanks mlady merci mad….png)

>>585089

T. Shlomo shekelstein

(((Tips fedora)))


08c7f1 No.585125

File: 9e92bcee19b3947⋯.jpg (22.66 KB, 479x339, 479:339, Go-cry.jpg)

>>585123

Wow how the fuck did 4/pol/ find us? I thought being delisted on Google was enough to filter out impact memes and fedoras


392bf6 No.585129

>>585123

>you worship a tool the ancient roman political class invented to consolidate power

[citation needed]

> god tried to keep humanity in the dark; adam and eve lived in ignorance (not even aware of their own nakedness like any other animal)

Nice weaseling to try to confute "innocence" or "purity" with "ignorance". Not all ignorance is evil, either.

>all human accomplishent is the result of satanic interference.

Human "accomplishment" in the grand scheme of things has amounted to nothing other than ultimately trying to destroy or control one another in the most effective and aesthetic fashion possible. You're right, Adam and Eve were right to rebel. Look at the good work they have done!

>btw, christianity ... is actually rebranded pagan sun worship.

[citation needed]

>my final point, forgetting a god is the deicide, jehova is dead.

What are you even talking about?


4ba150 No.585140

>>585030

so what? didn't the apostles deal with this? make memes to refute them, adapt and grow and do everything to gain them to Christ.


41815a No.585141

>>585136

Can't you take this 15 year old edginess to r/Christianity?


351915 No.585143

>>584965

this thread should be in christian /pol/

but things are looking good


392bf6 No.585149

>>585136

><citation (council if nicea), king james reformation, lutheranism.

Luther and the "King James Reformation" were Roman? What?

You are right though, that Anglicanism and Lutheranism were created to consolidate order and to justify more secular orders which sought to move away from the Church, which was nothing short of treason against God. The Catholic Church, however, was not, and this forced meme of "Constantinianity" is trash.

>isnt it odd that centuries after the bible was alleged to be written, certain portions were deemed 'apocryphical' and censored from pyblic eye to maintain social order?

No, it's not. Public Revelation is considered to have ended with the death of St John at the end of the 1st Century AD. What this means is that anything written after this point which purports to be scripture is automatically eliminated as inauthentic or at best, not divinely inspired. In fine, it's not scripture, and much of what I assume you are talking about, came after this time, so it has no place in the NT. As for apocryphal/uninspired texts written before this time, the Church discerned this through the Holy Spirit.

Further lot of these texts, like the Acts of Peter, the Protevangelium of James, the Epistle to the Laodiceans and others still freely and openly circulated, and helped to influence a lot of Christian Culture well up until the Renaissance. Social order only came into when heretics attacked the Church on bunk accusations such as the ones you make.

>notice its not called "endarkenment"?

So?

><pagan citation: yule festival=xmas; pope hat=posideons hat, ishtar (goddess of fertility)=easter=beltaine=fertility festival

>source: your ass

Try again.

<the way to kill a god is to never remember him or say his name

If a tree falls in a forest, does it make a sound?

>if you were created in god's image, doesnt that mean, you have god-like qualities, and god-like abilities?

Yes. Memory, intelligence and understanding, the power to know (and do) good or evil (i.e. free will).


afb47f No.585155

File: 9ead631cec8fc83⋯.jpg (296.26 KB, 768x1063, 768:1063, _20180105_065910.JPG)

>>585123

>if you believe the storybooks , god tried to keep humanity in the dark; adam and eve lived in ignorance (not even aware of their own nakedness like any other animal) until the serpent spoke.

Adam named all the animals prior to the fall. How did he do this if he was as ignorant as you say?

>under christian logic, all human accomplishent is the result of satanic interference.

Illogical. Would we define "accomplishment" as good? Nothing good can proceed from something evil. The devil is evil, ergo no accomplishment proceeds from his interference.

All pain, lies, murder, sodomy and death itself are products of the fall from Grace. The devil's own work. You make a hero out of he who condemned the entire human race to death.

>my final point, forgetting a god is the deicide, jehova is dead.

Billions of Christians worldwide argue against that notion. How does forgetting about something kill it or render it nonexistent? Would the number 1 cease to exist in mathematics if everyone just forgot about it? Think this through.


55f069 No.585169

>>584965

My conversion has the same conditions as St. Paul aka Saul of Tarsus.

God needs to strike the sight from my eyeballs and heal me three days later + some visions and lightning and shit.

If Saul didn't have to believe shit before that, neither do I.


091a2c No.585187

File: 0bb9e0e98a1cae2⋯.png (830.2 KB, 800x533, 800:533, food.png)

Has anyone thought about converting bulks of the /ck/ userbase? I'd say about 1/3rd of the board is already Christian, why not make that more?

the reason I'm writing this is because I'm not a good enough chef to try making a thread on /ck/ myself

Also worth trying on cuckchan /ck/ since that place is more hygienic.

Thoughts?


4f8094 No.585231

>>585169

>Special snowflake thinks he should be treated like Paul.

You're no more special than the rest of us. If you grow up you'll look back on your life and see where God intervened. If you stay in your snowflake mentality you go back to reddit and nothing of value is lost.


81add9 No.585232

File: 19e8b63d87ae0af⋯.png (392.54 KB, 731x464, 731:464, 2842bd818.png)

>>585187

I'd say Godspeed.


b23906 No.585817

>>585067

This guy gets it. The thing is anon, we have these differences because some groups spout heresies and that is unacceptable.




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