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ba50a9 No.581286

Thoughts? How does one come back at this?

278af7 No.581287

>>581286

=> [-]


ba50a9 No.581288

>>581287

It's an honest question.


cdc537 No.581290

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>>581286

>written by an American Jew

there's your answer.

Memes aside, it's interesting how he remarks on how Jesus was some kind of positive rebel prophet to the Jews when any Orthodox Jew can tell you how much they loath him. Seems to me that he's one of the many secular Jews that engaged in menticide (considering both Bernay's 'Propaganda' and Ravage's 'A Real Case against the Jews' were published in the same year) once the modern era really started rolling. I doubt every word that he is saying in this article excerpt. From my own study of history, I know that Europe was not some idyllic paradise under Paganism, nor was subjugated under Catholicism, it was a collection of loosely related states, kingdoms, villages, and towns that interacted with each other nominally and were relatively reserved in their customs when they weren't fighting one another i.e. how Europe has always been.

tl;dr do not trust jewish lies


ba50a9 No.581293

>>581290

Thanks. I'll sage thread since you answered the question. Have good new year man. Same for >>581287


89e320 No.581294

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>>581290

This.

He's speaking like he has ownership of what Jesus took from them and gave to anybody who believes in Him and away from anybody (Jew or gentile) who doesn't believe.

He's speaking to the same appeal that zionists have.

>>581286

It's a tragic read. The Jew is explicating his turmoil of being rejected by God to win sympathy from the gentile to whom God turned. I'm surprised because I suppose this Jew never read the prophet of Jonah. It's a short 4 chapter read of a Jew who even after preaching to the ninevites was upset that they listened to God's preaching, lamenting over the inevitable truth that God was showing Jonah and the reader: that God is no respecter of persons and will in no way cast out those who love and believe in Him.

Perhaps this Jew is bitter and needs a beer or something. Perhaps he can print off some federal reserve notes to finance a delicious ale that the Gentiles produce so well.

Or perhaps he is comfortable in his own self loathing without it. Oh well, I'd still give him the gospel anyway. Maybe float a few pastor Anderson videos. Marching to Zion is a good one that may speak to him


a01049 No.581299

>>581286

>racial tradition

>tribal laws

>folk tales

>national literature

Clearly this man has far less respect for his own heritage than we do, to the point where he will strip it of it's divine significance just to bolster his case.

I think it's absurd to think that all Jews uniformly have the same characteristics as liars/decievers/evildoers etc., and I hate that this thread is inevitably going to be a hugbox for people who hate their brothers, even if some of them are their enemies too, but he and his vitriol aren't helping his or his race's case.


ba50a9 No.581303

>>581294

>>581299

Thanks guys.


fb2229 No.581332

>>581294

>Maybe float a few pastor Anderson videos

You are called to love your enemy, not hate him


fb2229 No.581337

>>581299

Define brother


38d622 No.581352

>>581337

I don't know about you, but anyone need of salvation is my brother. And whether the are my brother or my enemy our master called to love them the same.


38d622 No.581353

>>581337

Crap I read passive agressiveness in your second post before I read the truth in your first, my bad.


89e320 No.581416

>>581332

Sure =)

Can't think of anything more loving than to giving this Christ-rejecting Jew falsely so called the gospel so he doesn't burn in hell for his separation from God.


fb2229 No.581429

>>581416

>the joke

>the ISS

>the Everest

[…]

>my kneecaps

>your head


89e320 No.581433

>>581429

don't threaten my property, my property.


a01049 No.581452

>>581416

>Can't think of anything more loving than to giving this Christ-rejecting Jew falsely so called the gospel so he doesn't burn in hell for his separation from God.

Because Pastor Anderson just exudes compassion, forgiveness, and the love of Christ for them. It honestly astounds me that the Jews have been able to resist his magnetic personality for as long as they have.


656c1f No.581453

>>581452

>Love your enemy

>hate the enemies of God

What's so hard to understand?

S.Anderson goes out to the Jews and tries to leads them to Christ. To take his preaching to a congregation of Christians warning believers of the lies Jews believe and repeat, and act like that's the message he takes to Jews is a gross misrepresentation.


37edd7 No.581456

>>581453

If only he would take the warnings to them, it might end up being the best thing for some of them.


656c1f No.581458

>>581456

lol I don't think he'll ever have a soul-winning marathon in Israel

would be funny though


89e320 No.581518

>>581458

Psstor Anderson banned from Israel


a01049 No.581519

>>581453

>and act like that's the message he takes to Jews is a gross misrepresentation.

He puts that message up on youtube where everyone can see them, it gets to them anyways. He's made national news as a hate preacher and embarrassed Christianity in the process. The fruits of the Spirit are kindness, gentleness, and patience, anyone who sees that youtube video of him telling sinners to kill themselves will know that he sadly does not have those. If we we want to save the Jews we need to convince them that they are actually in danger first, and you don't catch bees by trying to drown them in vinegar.

>hate the enemies of God

The Jews were the enemies of God at Calvary yet Jesus died because he loved them anyways. Don't put a limit on God's love or your own.


9029b2 No.581520

>>581458

It's illegal to evangelize in Israel.


304019 No.581525

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>>581519

>Jesus died because he loved them anyways

He came to be the messiah of them, and they didn't believe him or didn't want him. So he became the messiah of all humanity.

What we call Jewish today specifically means to not believe that Jesus is the messiah.


656c1f No.581533

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>>581519

>hate

Here's a sermon from this morning on the very topic, if you've an hour to spend.

Pardon me for addressing your points out of order here.

>youtube video of him telling sinners to kill themselves

If we're referring to the same clip, he's specifically talking to child molesters. I can't disagree with him there, because Jesus said that those who offend a little believer, it would be better for them to drown themselves in the sea.

>he puts that message on youtube

>if we want to save the Jews we need to convince them that they are actually in danger first

S.Anderson's worst enemy in regards to zionism is the neo-con megachurch american who tells the unbelieving Jew that some sort of dispensational voodoo saves them, when only Christ can.

>the fruits of the Spirit are…

>Don't put a limit on God's love or your own.

We're also commanded to abhor that which is evil. We're commanded to love without dissimulation, or hypocrisy. I can't truly love you as a brother if I don't absolutely despise Satan and his attempts to pull you into perdition. Anderson's example is

"Honey, do you love me?"

"Well, I love all people."

As a member of the RCC, you can't really say that he's embarrassed Christianity by making the news, when millions of people look at your organization as the mother of harlots, and associate your church more closely with the crusades and burning people alive than they do with mother Theresa.

Jesus Christ died for me and for you and for the Jews, and that was the most merciful thing anyone could have done for rotten sinners like the lot of us. Yet God is angry with the wicked every day, and anyone who dies unsaved will spend eternity in Hell. I pray that Jews today will come to be born again.


6b95ba No.581543

>>581533

>crusades

Literally nothing wrong with crusades. If you study the historical context you get surprised it didn't happen earlier.

You think crusades was just Christians trolling Muslims? As soon as Crusades stopped Ottoman Empire tries to grab as much European land as possible.

Before that Rashidun and other Caliphates try to grab as much European land as possible aswell.

By agressive. Militaristic. Expansion.


656c1f No.581546

>>581543

What I'm saying in so many words is

>muh pr


89e320 No.581547

>>581543

Crusades were nowhere near as impressive as the American colonists fighting off the British.


a01049 No.581555

>>581525

>He came to be the messiah of them, and they didn't believe him or didn't want him. So he became the messiah of all humanity.

And the word all somehow excludes the Jews? No? Then Jesus died because he loved them anyways. The Romans were just as violent towards Jesus as the Jews were, and he asked the Father to forgive them all the same. For the Pharisees who called the miraculous the devilish and the Holy Spirit and evil spirit there is no excuse, but today the Jews who spurn Jesus know not what the do and they are not beyond God's love and forgiveness.

>What we call Jewish today specifically means to not believe that Jesus is the messiah.

And that means that they will burn in hell forever, so why would your concern for them not override your dislike? Why would you listen to a false prophet who preaches hate and suicide and gives the Jews reason to mistrust us and confirms their biased view of us as violent bigots, binding a millstone around his neck in the process? Just because they hate Jesus does not mean they are beyond salvation, and if you somehow drive man away from his salvation you WILL be held accountable. This isn't an accusation, I don't know you well enough, but it is a warning.

>>581533

>I can't disagree with him there, because Jesus said that those who offend a little believer, it would be better for them to drown themselves in the sea.

"Hey Pastor Anderson, this guy has pissed God off beyond belief and his wrath is hanging over him like the sword of damocles, should he repent of his sins and through the infinite mercy of God that is always available to him in this life no matter the gravity of his sins wipe that wrath clean and inheret the unending life of unimaginable bliss that he was created for, or should he just fucking kill himself?

"He should fucking kill himself Orel."

>We're also commanded to abhor that which is evil. We're commanded to love without dissimulation, or hypocrisy. I can't truly love you as a brother if I don't absolutely despise Satan and his attempts to pull you into perdition.

The power of evil is nothing compared to the Spirit of good. Reprove your enemies just as you would reprove the brother you love, yet if you can't love them as a brother then love them as an enemy, aka sinner trapped in his own sin. It's all the same love, and it's all the same hate. They will know the difference.

>As a member of the RCC, you can't really say that he's embarrassed Christianity by making the news, when millions of people look at your organization as the mother of harlots, and associate your church more closely with the crusades and burning people alive than they do with mother Theresa.

I am not responsible for the sins of others, but I am called to save people from them when I see them.

And in the spirit of that you >>581543. Stop that. The Crusaders sacked Constantinople for Christ's sake, literally.

>Jesus Christ died for me and for you and for the Jews, and that was the most merciful thing anyone could have done for rotten sinners like the lot of us. Yet God is angry with the wicked every day, and anyone who dies unsaved will spend eternity in Hell. I pray that Jews today will come to be born again.

A-fucking-men, and don't stop.

I don't reprove you guys out of spite, even though I admittedly have nothing but spite for these kinds of opinions, I reprove you because if you accept my reproval there may be a few more people in heaven by the time Jesus comes back. The flock should be guarded against sin, but it should also be completed no matter how far away the stray sheep have wandered. When Jesus calls for us to be as wise as serpents and he wants us to know the enemy's tactics and be on guard for them, because any hypocrisy, any sin on our part is a weapon given straight to the serpent himself to use against us, weapons with which he has been dragging Jews to perdition for millennia. And when Jesus calls for us to be as innocent as doves then that means we shouldn't be hypocrites at all anyways. I just pray all this holier than thou soapboxing will actually help us be a little bit holier.

Also I've said this in other threads and i'll say it again, man do I need to learn to stop doing 3 drafts of these things and just proofread already.


37edd7 No.581576

>>581555

>"He should fucking kill himself Orel."

Is railing against someone a sin? For all your tolerance and virtue you sure seem to have issues with those of us who are trying to pull people out of the fire instead of just passively letting them die believing in a lie and calling it tolerant, due to outwardly appearing very pleasant and accepting but inwardly hating anyone who starts telling the truth about these Jews and reprobates, straight from the word of God. That's why you can't stand it because it's true, don't make up excuses.


656c1f No.581578

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Hebrews 1:8-9 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. ==Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity==; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

It's impossible to follow Jesus' example without hating sin.

>>581555

> or should he just kill himself?

It's better a man drowns himself than commits offense against a child. John Podesta should kill himself. I can forgive literally any trespass against my person, I can turn the other cheek. It's my duty and should be my passion to see the unsaved saved. but I have to reconcile the infinite mercy of my God with his infinite Justice, who will sentence unregenerate sinners to eternal death.

Psalm 11:5 The Lord trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

Psalm 26:5 I have hated the congregation of evil doers; and will not sit with the wicked.

Psalm 31:6 I have hated them that regard lying vanities: but I trust in the Lord.

>Reprove your enemies

remember my first post; love my enemies, hate the enemies of God. Look at the rebuke Jehu gave to king Jehoshaphat.

>2 Chronicles 19:2 And Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the Lord? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the Lord.

Again, Pastor Anderson is infamous for going into the highways and hedges and preaching the gospel, knocking on doors and taking the word to sinners. You're only kneecapping a Christian when you look at a clip of him crying out in his church and decry him as someone without the fruits of the Spirit.

>I am not responsible for the sins of others

I wouldn't accuse you of that, but what I'm saying is that if the public perception of the RCC based on those actions doesn't cause you to turn your back on her, you're throwing stones in a glass house when you point out Anderson embarrassing Christianity by being on the news.

I would argue that it's impossible to love Jews today without a deep-seated hatred of Judaism. Why shouldn't mainline american "Judaeo-Christians" know about the talmudic blasphemy that the Jews hold to? And if a Jew happens across Marching to Zion, may his conscience be pricked by it.


2c0cd0 No.581579

>>581576

Incredible how you did a complete 180 of the situation. You're the one that supports the pastor that tells people who haven't repented to kill themselves because "they can't be saved" so they're sure to go to hell.

AAA Class Projecting

>don't make up excuses.

Otherwise known as "don't argue anymore! I stand on sand and can't hold on for much longer"


a01049 No.581647

>>581576

>Is railing against someone a sin?

No but encouraging someone to commit a sin that will assure their damnation and permanently cut off their chance of salvation is. Nothing more need be said on the matter.

>For all your tolerance and virtue you sure seem to have issues with those of us who are trying to pull people out of the fire instead of just passively letting them die believing in a lie and calling it tolerant, due to outwardly appearing very pleasant and accepting but inwardly hating anyone who starts telling the truth about these Jews and reprobates

The truth is that these people are trapped in sin and that it is our job to pull them out of it. But they can only come out of it if they make that choice themselves, and that choice entails coming over to the side of a faith that has a long history of marginalizing and genociding them for reasons that seem nonsensical to them. This isn't the 1st century when the Messiah literally fulfilled all the prophecy in front of them and they said "Nah," they aren't rejecting their heritage now because of one pure man but because of millions of sinners sinning in his name for two millena. If we haven't won the Jews over to Christ we only have ourselves to blame for that because we haven't been able to forgive and those who cruxified and are cruxifying Jesus like he has, and if you ask any Jew they will tell you that is primary reason they have chosen to remain in the fire. But even if their hearts are hardened it is never too late to change that. I understand that no group of christians have to my knowledge been able to strike the correct balance between absolutely uncomprimising mercy and absolutely uncomprimising justice, and most have sacrificed one for the other to great detriment and much hypocrasy. But just as surely as we are called to tell non-Christians that Judaism and worse errors are going to lead them to hell we are called to save them from it, and that effort is pointless if they don't understand and accept why they should make the switch. Most of us don't have the Holy Spirit working undeniable, miraculous proofs like in the Apostolic Age, so the best way to convince these people that we are not the embarassments to Christ that many of our fathers were is to show them what Christ has done for us, and if he hasn't made us absolutely uncomprimisingly loving, perfect like the Father is perfect, then we only have ourselves to blame. I am nowhere close to near that goal, but at the very least I want to help you get there with me, for the good of a jew or two.


a01049 No.581650

>>581578

>It's impossible to follow Jesus' example without hating sin.

Jesus's example is to hate the sin but love the sinner, for we are all sinners and he loves us all anyway, enough to die so that we may stop killing ourselves through sin. If you don't follow that example then I'm sorry but you are not following Jesus's example. That's a horrible thing to hear, sadly most Christians I think need to hear it, but remember that you always have a choice in the matter.

>It's better a man drowns himself than commits offense against a child.

It's better that one man sin then two, that a man enter perdition alone rather than drag his brother into it with him, that isn't an excuse to sin and that doesn't mean that God wants us to close the door on the salvation he has offered us. I'm sorry but I cannot comprehend how you seriously think that Jesus is advocating suicide in this passage.

>but I have to reconcile the infinite mercy of my God with his infinite Justice, who will sentence unregenerate sinners to eternal death.

The infinite mercy of God is that even if a man like John Podesta would do the world a favor if he killed himself, he can be forgiven and merit eternal bliss through Jesus. If that fact weren't true then God's mercy, the same mercy we are called to emulate, would not be infinite, but it is so he can be. Ultimately you do not know the whole of his heart, only his sins, black as they are, and you are not fit to judge him beyond salvation. Reprove him, yes. Be revolted by his actions, absolutely.

BUT NEVER SAY THAT HE SHOULD KILL HIMSELF AND LOSE HIS SOUL IN THE PROCESS!!! Certainly it is hard to strike the balance, I myself have strayed too far against justice in the past. Recently I lamented to my mother and sister that the media had been unable to show mercy to Harvey Weinstein, but after much shouting and a few tears I had to admit that he was unregenerate and therefore deserving of all the justice that had been metted to him; a good lesson was learned. But the miracle is that even far worse sinners, bloodthirsty mass-murderers and scourges of God like Saul of Tarsus, can become lanterns for the Holy Spirit to shine in. Certainly, we are called to hate sin without limit or comprimise, but we must always remember that God loves the sinner anyways and never wants to see a single one lost.

>Again, Pastor Anderson is infamous for going into the highways and hedges and preaching the gospel, knocking on doors and taking the word to sinners.

To his infinite credit. But he also made national news for preaching a disgusting heresy, a work that certainly did not come from the Holy Spirit, and unless he recognzes and repents for that sin then God will hold unfourtunately hold him accountable. "Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? Then I will announce to them, I never knew you! Depart from Me, you lawbreakers!"

>I wouldn't accuse you of that, but what I'm saying is that if the public perception of the RCC based on those actions doesn't cause you to turn your back on her, you're throwing stones in a glass house when you point out Anderson embarrassing Christianity by being on the news.

The RRC is not one man but billions and for all the grievous faults that God will without a doubt hold members of her accountable for I have been able to find the fullness of salvation only thanks to her, as have most Christians throughout history. Pastor Anderson is one man leading many men into sin and he should be shown the error of his ways and be shunned as a false prophet lest he repent. That is the difference.

>Why shouldn't mainline american "Judaeo-Christians" know about the talmudic blasphemy that the Jews hold to?

Because unfourtunately we live in a culture that has taken arguments like that and used them to nearly destroy the faith of this country. Certainly those who are persecuted for righteousness's sake are blessed, but that dosen't mean we have to be idiots about our righteousness. Be as wise as a serpent; understand that we live in a world where hypocracy, error, and even truly righteous anger can be chopped up, warped, and pumped directly into the faces of everyone in the world. Luckilly, the errors of the Jews are incredibly easy to show without resorting to any of that Their own God is not worthy of being called infinitely merciful if his salvation is reserved for a tiny ethnic community and not given to the world. The contradictions are obvious and can make anyone Jew who takes his faith seriously question it, especially if the arguments are in the hand of someone who knows their theology. We will never transform the enemy if we don't step out of the territory of our own worldview and defeat them on their own, but that territory still knows God's mercy and it can be the ultimate weapon against them if we use it properly.


da099d No.581659

>>581286

>Thoughts? How does one come back at this?

Firstly, it plays on a myth that modern jews were ever persecuted as a political group. Never happened. Holocaust was a fake news hoax for its era, both world wars were funded by international central banks chaired primarily by….jews.

Secondly, the Jews of Jesus' era who followed Jesus as disciples are not nothing like the jews of today. If you want to get into the geneology, you can do that on your own time, but suffice it to say that the Bible tells us what we need to know about the modern anti-Christ jew:

Revelation 3:9 (KJV)

9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Is it any wonder that almost all evils in this world can be traced back to multinational institutions, whether businesses or other organizations, primarily owned, operated, and funded by jews - specifically central banks?

Just as Christians are people who choose to follow the ways of Jesus as described in the Bible, the average modern jew can be likened to a luciferan loyalist that chooses to act in the interests of satan (and to do so, many have given into deception, so they may not even realize what they are doing).


37edd7 No.581666

>>581647

>If we haven't won the Jews over to Christ we only have ourselves to blame for that

If someone fails to hear the truth in the word of God I don't beat myself up over it. My job was to spread the gospel no matter what, knowing that some will hate me for doing it. John 15:20. Only God can work effectually in their hearts, my job is just to bring the word to each the best way I can so they can hear it. Sometimes this is possible, sometimes hearing is impossible for them, it doesn't change what I have to do based on outcome statistics or anything like that

"Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also."

>and if he hasn't made us absolutely uncomprimisingly loving,

And how is it loving to tolerate any behavior even until death? Just because the servant of God needs to instruct with meekness those that oppose themselves, it does not mean you ignore the facts about who God gave up in Romans 1. We can't start down the path of deciding what parts of the word are "beneficial" for getting people to believe and understand, we have to trust God gave us exactly the tools and the exact truth needed to get other people saved if we can only bring it to them, all of it. Once they hear, the rest is happening in a place far away from my understanding and control, where God can work in them, or not. It's all up to Him. 1 Thessalonians 2:13.

>If you don't follow that example then I'm sorry but you are not following Jesus's example.

You realize all the Psalms in referring to the Lord are also referring to Jesus right? He already quoted plenty of them so out of respect for that I will just ask you to bear that fact in mind and not to take what Scripture says lightly. Psalm 11:5, Psalm 139:19-22, and others if you want them.

>If that fact weren't true then God's mercy, the same mercy we are called to emulate, would not be infinite, but it is so he can be.

This argument doesn't hold up because what about after death? There just isn't any point in scripture you can point to that proves what you're trying to say. Some people become hardened before they even die, and if that's truly the case, then that's also the will of the Lord for them to be used as vessels of wrath. Rather you're giving too much credit to physical things.

>but that territory still knows God's mercy and it can be the ultimate weapon against them if we use it properly.

In the Talmud, God is at the mercy of the rabbis. It seems you're still in the dark about their teachings; it's not based on the Bible at all, that's just what they want you to think. Who is a liar but he that denies that Jesus is the Christ?


a01049 No.581694

>>581666

First off ebin debil trips Satan. Second:

>And how is it loving to tolerate any behavior even until death?

It isn't, and that isn't what uncompromising love is about. If you love your mother you will never let her go no matter what she does to you, but you will also be as protective of her soul as a hawk and mourn whenever she sins. If I hadn't made that clear before I do now, I kind of assumed that was clear from the Gospel. And again, none of us live up to that standard, myself included, but that is the standard we are all called too.

>Psalm 11:5, Psalm 139:19-22

Yet at the same time Christ calls us to love our brothers and our enemies. If everyone is either with him or against him then these two categories encompass the entirety of the human race and Jesus loves them all, because Jesus would only tell us to do what is good, and we only do good when we immitaite him. But this division does exist, and these psalms throw that division into its ultimate contrast. Can God hate and love a person at the same time? Certainly if Matthew 5:43-44 is to be believed, and in this verse this contradiction between the Old and New Testaments position on enemies is brought to light and resolved. Can you hate your mother if she was a violent abuser and yet still love her by wanting to see her cured of the afflictions that drive her from expressing her own love? Absolutely. Can God hate sinners, who every single one of us are, and yet send his only son to die for us through his love? Absolutely. It's not that hard and the more you think about it the more central this theme is to Christ's revelation, and Paul makes this clear in Romans 3:23-24.

>This argument doesn't hold up because what about after death? There just isn't any point in scripture you can point to that proves what you're trying to say.

Scripiture tells thus that even though we are born and raised to offend God, who is eternal above all his creation, if we simply believe in his Son, then we can warrant eternal life after death. God will eternally keep us, a meek creature, in the presence of his infinite glory, and that glory will have no end. Ever. Whatsoever. That is the infinite mercy of God, and the ONLY way to partake in the fullness of it is to choose it. And if we wish to be merciful then we would be remiss not to offer this choice to the Jews at every available oppourtunity.

>In the Talmud, God is at the mercy of the rabbis. It seems you're still in the dark about their teachings; it's not based on the Bible at all, that's just what they want you to think.

I actually was a bit of a kabbalist lite before I came back to the Church, although never much in practice because man is their practice whacked out. Kabbalah, which is basically all the modern rabbinic tradition is, makes up for it's lack of revelation by piling exegesis upon exegesis over centuries, to the point where the integrity of the original scriputes is comprimised and eventually forgotten. They develop entire systems of mysticism and vision around what they assert were the experiences of Ezekiel, they pile on byzantine, apocryphal schemas of heaven and flat out alien doctrines like reincarnation and universal salvation, they read numerology into the Bible and indeed the whole world, and they preach their own system of ten emenations of God alongside God himself. Nonetheless, even with all of that nonsense, there is the structure of YHWH's truth, as these emenations are neatly divided into those of mercy, those of justice, and those of their synthesis. Mercy is not alien to them, if anything they care for it more than the God that gives it to them and it is at the very least inseperable from their philosophy. Their systems are all apocryphal and will collapse as the sand they are if you show that you love God's revalation for what it is, but make no mistake, they are no strangers to mercy.




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