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There are no white Christian nations anymore thanks to (((multiculturalism))).

>>575047

>quotes out of context

All it says is that the religious law applies equally.

Africa should be removed, or at least kept separate. With this accomplished, it won't be a problem.

>>575047

False flagging is a sin. Also that quote meant that there are no more "chosen people" and "non-chosen people", no more special people and non-special people, nothing more or less.

On the topic. You can see how multiculturalism work out. Culture clashes because human are tribal creatures at heart. And one will live and others will die for the sake of "multiculturalism" and "progress". Unless you think people dying out for "multiculturalism" and "progress" that most progressives worship as God and Goodness in and of themselves is good. This is pretty much self-evident.

>>575064

If Africa could be sufficiently Christianized, there wouldn't be a problem. But thanks to Islam and the end of colonialism, it would probably take centuries at this point. Missionaries meet far stronger spiritual opposition in Africa than anywhere else.

>>575071

Except the "church of Sweden" is only Christian in name

>pro-divorce

>pro-homosexuality

>many extreme liberals (churches should become areligious, god is neuter)

>core activity is hiding illegal immigrants from police

>doesn't even bother hiding it, they openly advertise it in arabic, tigrinya, etc

>let (non-Christian) foreigners rape girls at their summer camps without repercussions

Disgusting. Much more I'm forgetting too.

>>575082

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/skane/utlanningskontroll-pa-kyrkans-familjelager-16-personer-omhandertogs

http://www.folkbladet.se/nyheter/norrkoping/sexbrott-pa-konfirmationslager-om4848155.aspx

For example, google translate these.

I don't feel concerned by these issues. I feel concerned by what immediately surrounds me right now, and that is helping out the poor and the oppressed. Maybe I'm just a brainlet…

However, as far as the Kingdom of God is concerned, the only real and final distinction is between those of Adam and those of Jesus. I'm annoyed by the ethnocentricism that is present in (some) Orthodox parishes (Greek and Romanian from my experience, although again, it's just some of them) where their language is superior to all other languages, foreigners don't belong in their community, and even the Orthodox of other jurisdictions are inferior.

I can excuse it for the Romanians because the Church in Romania is awful at raising pastors and teaching laypeople, and as a result they can be very ethocentric and superstitious when they want to… But the Greeks have no excuses.

Multiculturalism is divide-and-conquer practiced by the rich against the poor of their own countries. The elite import alien ethnicities then play the ethnic hatred among the different groups against each other (mostly minority ethnic hatred against the majority [or rather majority-minority]) so the lower classes stay divided and distracted by destructive in-class competition like crabs in a bucket, all while flooding the labor market with convenient cheap labor coupled with a handy black hole for tax dollars (only the working class actually pays taxes, the rich keep their money in tax-free offshore accounts) in the form of welfare to minorities to artificially depress working class wages. (Remember the purpose of perpetual warfare in 1984, to destroy surplus wealth so the Proles don't rise out of poverty to threaten the Party? Dropping half of the wages of every blue collar white man's paycheck in the form of EBT on the ghettos every month accomplishes the same thing. Orwell said that warfare was necessary to provide a psychological justification for the waste. Apparently people will accept nonproductive slavery if they think the blood, sweat and tears that should have gone to raising families of their own are instead going to feed and breed parallel societies in some kind of twisted inversion of charity.) This process basically ensures the continued existence of a perpetual working and underclass with state dependence in countries that would otherwise have a universally middle class income and standard of living by now thanks to technological and efficiency innovations. Basically multiculturalism is just a way for the rich to more effectively oppress the poor. It doesn't benefit minorities in the long term. Even the elite will suffer eventually when the welfare state inevitably collapses and society descends into anarchy and civil war. So no, multiculturalism isn't Christian. I'd suspect that if the people in charge responsible for these policies weren't simply Mammonist sociopaths then they'd be trying to destroy Western civilization as some kind of scorched earth bid to also annihilate Christianity, but I think the real reason is just pure economic greed and shortsighted political self-interest and ultimately just plain old fashioned stupidity. But yeah, the next couple of centuries in the West are not going to be happy ones. I guess the Western peoples deserve it for turning their backs on Christ, but really I don't think anyone deserves what's coming. Sweden is probably the furthest advanced along this historical process. The next few decades there will be like a crystal ball for the other countries of the West. Anyway, I suggest if you value your future to get as far away from the West as possible as soon as you can. You can smell death coming on the wind.

>>575095

>You can smell death coming on the wind.

Either the death of Europa or death of Africa (and Islam) unless the people dropped the multiculturalism BS and realise peace does not mean we have to hold hands and sing koombaya. It just means being a good neighbour to each other in our own respective houses. Either way, China (and probably India) is looking forward when the dust settles. Might be a long stretch but I think China wants to share this world with European wài rén rather than the Mohammedans.

Aristotle wrote about kinds of love and he is the philosopher as Thomas Aquinas call him. One of kinds of love is philia. Without philia, or friendship-love, you cannot have society. Without society you cannot have culture or civilisation. But it is necceserry for this kind of philia, philia that is more than mere friendship, to exist there have to be sense of kindred. And you cannot have this sense in multicultural societies where there it is too easy to divide and conquer. Only idiots and tyrans are promulticulti (also marginal note, multiculti and other such shortenings like nazi are characteristic to jewish civilisation)

Now, did not Paul said that there is no greek or scythian or jew but are one? Yea, but he also said that there is no male and female. For all are one IN CHRIST. Not outside of it.

Now, did not Peter said that that we are all royal priesthood, choosen nation? Yea, but Israel, archtype of Church were of twelve tribes that even though they were of one blood were separate.

Now, did not we are all Adam stock? Yea, but when we wanted to mingle this stock and be of one culture, in days of Peleg, the God divided us defintevlly.

Now, do we not say in the creed "I belive in catholic, that means universal, church"? Yea, but universal does not mean unitarian.

Rember words of Tobias: 12 Son, be on your guard against prostitutes. Above all, marry a woman of our tribe, because we are descendants of the prophets. Do not marry anyone who is not related to us. Remember that Noah, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, our earliest ancestors, all married relatives. God blessed them with children, and so their descendants will inherit the land of Israel. 13 Son, be loyal to your own relatives. Don't be too proud to marry one of them. Such pride leads to terrible frustration and ruin, just as laziness brings on severe poverty and causes starvation.

Patriotism is part of virtue of piety. But all racial or national hatered is contrary to spirit of charity.

>>575047

>Is it ok, for example, to let African Christians into white Christian nations?

If they're persecuted, yes. But, I see no particular reason to depopulate Africa in favour of north America.

What SHOULD be happening is slack-ass, me-centered western Christians should be FAR more dedicated to helping turn Africa into a place fit for our own brothers and sisters to live.

>>575135

>What SHOULD be happening is slack-ass, me-centered western Christians should be FAR more dedicated to helping turn Africa into a place fit for our own brothers and sisters to live.

/Thread. It doesn't help that secular organizations are constantly undermining attempts to proselytize to unreached groups, like that recently discovered tribe in South America.

>>575047

(((Multiculturalism))) Is an attempt to undermine what is left of Christianity in the west, people of different cultures have their own countries they can live in.

>>575135

How is it that the problems of Africa are somehow the responsibility of the west (I noticed you didn't even feign to include Christians elsewhere in the world in the blame)? We already collectively dump billions in aid money on Africa every year, it doesn't do anything but prop up tinpot dictators and undermine what small level of self sufficiency they might be able to establish. Charity is good (leaving aside how much good international "charities" actually do), and Christian missions are even more important, but Africa is suffering from extreme cultural, social, economic, and spiritual deficiency, these problems won't be solved through a mission or foreign charity. It has to come from within their own societies, and will take many generations. Dumping money on incompetent bureaucrats and allowing a release valve for millions of their social defectives into Europe and North America will only retard the process.

>>575160

Nobody here said anything about dumping gorillions on them. What I'm personally talking about is missions, with schoolhouses so fully Christianized communities can be taught to care for themselves.