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Really good thread with much thought put into it.

Please be careful of spiritual pride.

not often enough

also this >>572622

>>572599

>torah

gas this kike

If you can read 4-5 chapters a day, you can finish easily in a year even with the full canon of the Orthodox.

Don't try to read straight through. Numbers will kill you. Boredom will set in.

Several different methods.

>three bookmarks for three major sections

Each day, read two chapters from Law through History, read two chapters from Wisdom through Prophets, and read one chapter from the New Testament. You'll finish and be re-reading in about nine months.

>six bookmarks

One chapter from each of the sections above: Law, History, Wisdom, Prophets, Gospels+Acts, Epistles+Apocalypse. If you're in a protty Bible, you'll read everything in a year, if you're in an Orthodox or Catholic Bible, you'll not finish the History section in a year, but you'll wind up going through the Gospels+Acts three times in a year and through the Law twice.

>four bookmarks

One chapter from each: Law+History, Wisdom+Prophets, Gospels+Acts, Epistles+Apocalypse. Very NT-focused.

There are some seasonal ideas, but they require a checklist of the books, as you're reading certain books during pre-Advent to Epiphany or Apostle's Fast to Theophany, others from Septuagesima to Trinity Sunday of the Prodigal Son to Sunday of All Saints, and then the rest during "regular time." If you got a good, old (1928 or 1945) Anglican Lectionary, then you could put something together based on the daily readings for Matins and Vespers and then fill in the rest of the sections being read from.

>>572693

Torah is a Biblical word. Used hundreds oftimes in the Bible.

http://biblehub.com/hebrew/8451.htm

I've read entire bible this year (from January to May, day after day. Remind me to never end a day with first half of Chronicles 1). Now I am reading DRV with Haydock's commentary (even though I've read some of books alredy). I will try to get A Lapide one as well.

>>572568

I never read it.

What is point of reading the Bible when I do not have knowledge required to interpret it correctly?

>>572825

Catholics this is your fault

>>572825

You have the knowledge given to you by the Holy Spirit.

>>572846

If I had a nickel for every time somebody claimed to have the Spirit and then proceeded to spout heresy I'd be a multi trillionaire

Other than listening to daily Mass readings, I read a few chapters a week. Normally I'll read the NT but sometimes switch it up to the OT.

Been reading 2 pages every night before going to sleep for a long time. This way it doesn't get too boring and you can easily make it through boring parts like chronicles. Read 2 pages, turn the page - sleep.

Almost made it through old testament, on book of Sirach now (do proddies even read it?)

Sirach is quite boring as well.

"You better beat the shit out of your kids or they won't listen. Chew with your mouth closed. Don't sleep with shitty women. Beat your kids some more."

Anyway, I can't wait to get to the NT.

>>572856

I tend to skip over the begats. That takes a pretty nice chunk out of things. I don't really need to know someone's 20 generation family tree in order to understand the message.

>>572851

Knowledge from the Spirit precludes the possibility of heresy.

>>572856

I do something similar, but I'm not reading from cover to cover. I recently read the verses that are appropriate for Christmas, and now I'm reading through Acts. I also try to read the verses in the morning, think about them during the day, and read them again at night with a study Bible. Unfortunately I fail in this often because I have trouble getting up on time!

In my prayer rule, I always end by doing 100 Jesus Prayers (or less if I'm tired or running out of time), reading 1 chapter of Scripture in the Orthodox canon's order (or 1 kathisma for the Psalms), and then praying the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed. Reading Scripture out loud is actually a monastic practice, and it is good to focus and meditate on the Bible, one chapter at a time (or, again, 1 kathisma for the Psalms - praying only 1 Psalm would make going through the Psalter a very long task).

I got a new Bible recently, so I've been rereading it starting from Genesis 1 that way… I'm currently at Joshua 22. (I try to make it so that I always read a chapter that's an odd number in the morning and one that's an even number in the evening, so that even if I feel like I am too tired to pray, at least my autism would push me to read the Bible to fulfill the even/odd number rule, and to do the usual prayers around it while I'm at it).

I'll follow the liturgical calendar's readings once I'm done reading this Bible from cover to cover…

>>572860

>Knowledge from the Spirit precludes the possibility of heresy.

Tell me something I don't know

Reading Douay-Rheims/Knox Bible simultaneously with commentary of St. Thomas Aquinas feels pretty good.

>>572860

>the message

YES YES YES

I don't read the begats or lists of physical stuff either

Not often enough. I'm glad the semester's over, now I can read it more.

I read it slowly over 9 months. Best book (collection) I ever read. Very intriguing when Paul (Saul) sneaks in and hijacks the Jesus movement returning control to the Pharisee Jews.

And you hath He quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins, wherein in times past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience. Among these also we all had our manner of living in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by our natural condition headed for God’s wrath, just like everyone else.

It happened one day that the sons of God came to serve Adonai, and among them came the Adversary. Adonai asked the Adversary, “Where are you coming from?” The Adversary answered Adonai, “From roaming through the earth, wandering here and there.” Adonai asked the Adversary, “Did you notice my servant Job, that there’s no one like him on earth, a blameless and upright man who fears God and shuns evil?” The Adversary answered Adonai, “Is it for nothing that Job fears God? You’ve put a protective hedge around him, his house and everything he has. You’ve prospered his work, and his livestock are spread out all over the land. But if you reach out your hand and touch whatever he has, without doubt he’ll curse you to your face!” Adonai said to the Adversary, “Here! Everything he has is in your hands, except that you are not to lay a finger on his person.” Then the Adversary went out from the presence of Adonai.

While he was yet speaking, there came also another and said, “Thy sons and thy daughters were eating and drinking wine in their eldest brother’s house, and behold, there came a great wind from the wilderness and smote the four corners of the house, and it fell upon the young men, and they are dead; and I only have escaped alone to tell thee!”

>tfw no bible

i read it online in between shitposts

>>573268

You can get free Bibles at a lot of churches. There are also online organizations that send people free Bibles

>>573271

Dollar Tree sells KJV versions for $1 in paperback and faux leather.

>>572568

I reference the bible, but I don't generally sit and read through scripture.

I study topics, and reference the bible.

>>572860

>skipping the genealogies

EVERY WORD IS SCRIPTURE

>>573409

This video is really bad reasoning. According to his numbers, at the time of Christ, there were ~192,000,000 people who weren't Jews, which is enough biodiversity for families to have isolated family trees. If the Israelites can preserve their family tree from taint of Gentiles with the 600,000 men (besides women and children) that left from Egypt during the Exodus until the fall of the Northern Kingdom, then it certainly isn't unreasonable to suggest that the non-Israel lineages could have maintained racial purity after the destruction of the Temple. He doesn't give due consideration to geographic isolation, even if he does mention it. Does he honestly think that there isn't a single Japanese person alive who doesn't have a Jewish ancestor?

>>573436

I think you take racial purity a little far. Heck, I think the literal Nazis only wanted to go back to the fifth generation. The argument is that since the time of Abraham, just one member of your line would need to be of a child of Abraham. That is not a very large claim. Even after exodus, the tribes were in the center of the trading between the eastern and western. They traveled, have been known to enjoy prostitutes. Have been know to take foreign brides. It is not a tall order to believe that a drop of jewnetics got around. I believe he even stated that maybe on an island in Polynesian, but you never know.

Personally, without knowing from my family tradition that I am a child of rape from an Indian raid on my family farm five generations ago I would not know I have a tribal heritage, as my great (how ever many greats are needed) grandmother remarried and had the child raised and adopted by the new husband. All I am saying is as a species if the day of a true family tree could be formed it would be more spread out then you would think. Especially over 3,000 years.

>>573436

Andersons overall purpose includes a complete minimization and de-emphasis of all geneology, as far as possible. So I would expect that he would tend to understate complexities like geographic isolation.

Also, when you go back far enough, it becomes almost trivial from a strictly genetic point of view looking at your distant ancestors, as the odds of an ancestor being the source of even one gene drops off exponentially the farther back you go and the approximations we draw that "you get roughly one quarter of your genes from each grandparent" become bad approximations. If someone had a 10^(-50) chance of affecting each gene, it becomes increasingly likely they may have had no actual affect on their distant offspring's genes, it's down to chance (God really) whether they had any effect or whether more genes happened to come from one of your other millions of ancestors on that tree. It becomes better to talk about gene distributions in populations than about individuals at some point.

And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. Matthew 3:9