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>>568493

I have a loving and devout father. He inspires me to be a better christian and aspire to be a loving husband and father

>>568493

I haven't talked to him in 4 years because he's a fornicator and drunkard.

He's my greatest role model, especially in how to be a Christian.

>>568493

relatively ambivalent. we have a good relationship but we don't connect on a lot of things; he's usually too busy to do things with me and my brothers. he doesn't like that im catholic because of 'muh pedos' and 'muh crusades', but he was never a really pious man to begin with so it's whatever.

Looking back, he was quite autistic and something inside of him was broken, since none of his family was proud of him for getting his PhD, while the rest of his family were working class their whole lives.

I'm afraid that's how I am, too

My father was a degenerate adulterer who cheated on my mother and encouraged me to fornicate at a whim. He all but told me God wasn't real, and as a result I fell for the fedora meme. He wasn't Catholic, nor was my mother. They're both non-denominational protestants who taught me many wrong things about Christianity, which corrupted my view of Christians and God for several years.

I've met him, but never I've felt comfortable around him. I hope to be a better father to my children (if I have any).

I never really talk to him. Im too shy and i feel unworthy. It feels like i didnt do enough work.

On my biological father, though sometimes i hate him because he was never around on my formative years i still want to give him somekind of an important gif if i could afford one. Such a shame he is old and its like watching a man die and that person is someone you love.

He treated me more like a friend than a son, and I suffered for it.

>>568493

My dad was an atheist and a drunk and he died of lung cancer when I was 16. We had a pretty good relationship, though. He wasn't abusive or anything of the like. He taught me about computers and small electronics and he taught me that the world wasn't just about me, that respect for my fellows is what made me a man.

It had no influence whatsoever on my conception of God. Life is not "Fight Club". Our fathers are not our original God.

>>568493

My Father didn't have any idea how to parent since his dad died when he was young, and the short time his step dad raised him his step dad tried to be the "cool dad" type.

So when he became a father himself he got overwhelmed, and tried to abandon my Mom and older sister. Fortunately for me my mom's dad knocked some sense into him, but he never really learned how to be a father.

I think this effected me in that I have found in God a wiser, more affectionate Father. I'm still unsure if my Father is saved, please say a prayer for him, his name is John.

My father never raised me properly, never got me involved in any activities as a boy, only cared for his interests and passions, and would try to force them onto me growing up. Thus I fell for the libertarian and neo-con meme. He was educated in engineering and mechanics but didn't really care for religion nor any philosophy, thus I was never raised in that kind of environment. I suffered from a lack of culture. He also was very crude and vulgar as we aged. All he ever thought of was sex and would make virgin jokes at my expense and in front of his friends.

I don't really talk to him on spiritual or religious matters because I know it'll end up in a yelling debate with me trying to raise my voice over his crudeness.

>>568493

I got belted for bad grades, school discipline and not doing my chores.

Looking back at it though, I don't hate him for it and wish he'd apply the rod to my younger siblings who are very disrespectful and lazy.

I've been told that as a younger man he did bad things though I've never been told what they were. If he was a criminal it never showed in his speech, or actions.

He is a model Catholic, gave to the poor, helped those in need, worked hard and had no vices except the drink.

I've grown to empathize with him (though not excuse). He had very few opportunities in life, and even growing up we never had much except for his tools and our house. So as an adult (who is atm of modest means) I can see why he'd beat a careless child who didn't put away his wrenches. Though I would not do the same.

I had a good role model, who detests the idea that you have to screw someone to get ahead in life.

I have no excuse to be the person who i am today. I unlike so many, had proper instruction on what a Catholic man should be.

My mom left my dad when I was six because he was a drunk who couldn’t keep a job, sold coke out of our house, beat her, and was all and all a miserable failure of a man. Didn’t see him again till he was in a coma on his death bed (I was 12). He miraculously recovered, but had a brain injury and I never got to have a relationship with him cause he had no short term memory. He relapsed and drank himself to death when I was 21. He’s been dead 14 years and I’m still not over the whole thing. I often feel I have no idea who I am as a man because I didn’t have him.

I made almost all of the same mistakes he did in my 20s, and almost basically repeated his life, but God intervened. By the grace of God, my life has turned out very different than his now that I’m walking with the Lord.

My whole relationship with God flows out of my own father wound. God is healing it through fatherhood. When I dad on my kids, it’s like I’m god taking to myself through myself…it’s pretty cool. I still cry a lot.

>>571388

>When I dad on my kids,

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>>568493

Solid bread guys. I often think of how great my dad is and how I can outdo him. He is very loving, unconditionally, we've sure tested him. He has an incredible work ethic and a passion for his occupation, a blessing to the community. He doesn't communicate well, especially concerning big, important things. He never pushed his beliefs on his kids, just made sure we were brought up in a Christian environment. I suppose the more I describe him, the more my petty complaints will arise; nevertheless, he spent a lot of time working. We grew up in the suburbs. Dad not being a big authoritarian figure, it's by God's grace the family unit is still fervent in our faith. My older brother was a piece of shit during his younger years, a real bad influence; he has since had a profound religious experience, a turning point for the family as a whole. Dad doesn't call the shots like the ideal father would, but he raised us Bible believing and I'm forever grateful to him.

I am the product of an adulterous affair–I'm the bastard. My dad clearly favored his trueborn son. He also told me I cannot be a priest because my job is to make grandchildren.

He's a weird dude.

he left

He was nonexistent.

And this didn't effect my conception of God because I am pretty good at grasping abstract concepts, and I tend not to relate them to familiar things, but rather take them as they are.

Good relationship, good caretaker, harsh but fair, converse with often. He is sort of an enigma though. Secretive, mysterious, does not talk about himself much. Anything I coax out of him raises more questions than it answers.

My dad was one of these ones that was trying to be cool and let me call him by his real name and let me do whatever I wanted.

To this day I can't really understand morality. Sure I know things are wrong and right, but it doesn't make me feel guilty in the least doing something morally wrong.

>>568495

Bruh, your real father never left. God will never leave you.

>>568493

I had a good relationship with my Father. He wasn't fond of smoking or drinking. He was a carpenter. Everything seemed different after he passed. It would be great to see him again.

>>571392

Do dad stuff, carry them, care for them, talk to them….for example, they are crying for some minor reason, and I pick them up and calm them down and I say things like, “It’s okay, you are okay, I’m right here…”

>>568493

physically present, financial support in every aspect. Morally supportive in my decisions. A good father overall.

But he has been absent as my role of conduct. I don't see myself in my father. He lacks of any conviction.

Dad was well meaning but far from the best Dad in the world. He spoiled me a lot and generally played the role of the “cool” Dad. Unfortunately for most of the time I knew him, his life gradually got worse. He was very successful in the 80s but things went downhill later on. My Mum left him, his career prospects got worse, and he gradually turned to drugs and alcohol. I’d idolised him as a child, but in my teenage years I saw him slip into a very pathetic and erratic person. My love for him never went away, but I also began to resent and pity him. I was a massive machild myself during my late teens and early adulthood, so I found it very hard to cope with my Dad losing control of his life. I really wish I’d actually tried to save my Dad from himself, but I was far too pathetic back then to really do anything. He eventually died due to the consequences of his alcoholism in my early 20s. I would love to see him again, but I don’t think the chances are very good.

I've never really been close to him - my brother was always his favourite and I was always in the beckground. My brother doesn't really want to associate with him any more (long story), so I guess I'm now basically his only son he hardly knows. He hasn't ever treated me that nicely, but part of being a Christian is forgiveness, so yeah. We're getting better with each other in our relationship, so that's something.

I wasn't raised religious and my parents don't have a particularly positive view on Christianity. I don't really know how my relationship with my dad affects my conception of God.

My father is a good man and a great role model in terms of demonstrating how to be a man and having a good work ethic. He was never particularly devout, but has become more so lately. We are both helping each other in this regard.

>>576987

I don't know your circumstance and I might be terribly wrong, but it sounds like to me your dad just wants to know if his son is alright. Organize your thoughts and make a coherent reason for not wanting to do something.

My father was a Marine who beat the hell out of me for 18 years until I was old enough and strong enough to beat him. He made me tough and mean. I honor his lessons.

He was flawed and frail human. He has no bearing on my concept of God.

My dad is not the most ‘emotionally intelligent’ man, or the most pious, but he worked hard and did his best, and that’s all anyone can ask for. too bad we cannot say the same about his son

>>577290

Hey, stop being gay.

My father is awesome tbqh. Not very religious though, but he's a believer and very erudite. Since childhood he constantly reminded me to read as much as I could and inspired me to become educated and now I study for free at university due to finances of state high ranking at exams. He always listens to me when I talk with him about religious matters and trust me regarding this subject.

I really thank God to have father like this.

>>577340

*Due to financing of state due to high ranking in exams

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Dear old Dad hardly opened his mouth unless he was ready to quote the Bible. Sat his kids down faithfully for an hour+ every day to read and talk about God and His Word. Only punished me when I needed it, and I knew it hurt him more than me. Now that I'm out of the stupid phase where I think I know more than my father, I really cherish my upbringing. God bless any father that takes care of their family, and makes the time to bring up their children.

My father came from a very pious Catholic family. His father went faithfully to daily mass, said the rosary, etc. Somehow my father didn't follow that example. I asked him why once, and he said something's about "faith…works…doesn't mean salvation…yadda yadda." When he left his parents, he became almost atheistic he was so "hurt" by the Catholic Church. Longer story shorter, he became a born again baptist, and had me. He raised me baptist, sent me to a baptist school, anything he did, it was noticeably baptist. However, that didn't really work, and I became Orthodox. He still struggles to talk to me about Christianity because I now have a much better grasp of things and he can't just "the Bible says so" me. He's a very devout man, but I seriously sorry about him sometimes when it comes to believing what pastor jim tells him. Last night we were talking about the Jews and he said "they're God's chosen people." No matter how much evidence I gave that Jesus denounced the Jews and put a curse on them, he still would not budge. I even quoted the talmud where it says Jesus is boiling in excrement, and he still said nothing. I love the man, but sometimes I wonder how he can be so blind and not just go back to the Catholic Church where he belongs. Tbqh I sometimes wish I grew up in his family and not me in his just because his father was so pious.

>Inb4 orthoprot

Can that meme please stop I know it's kinda true but it's getting very old at this point

Good guy, good male role model, hard worker, everybody loves him and Catholic (not a fundamentalist though, so he was easy going and fine with me playing Doom when I was a kid and so on). My relationship with him was a bit awkward though, I could tell he was disappointed in me as I did shitty in school, didn't play sports, wasn't getting laid/girlfriends/dates, hobbies consisted of playing video games, going on the internet and things that involved me being in my bedroom, etc. He obviously lost hope after I dropped out of high school. The only reason he doesn't bug me about being a NEET is because I get autismbux.

>>568493

He was and is essentially a good man, but he also has control issues and while I always desired a relationship where we were equals and friends who could discuss the rules on a logical basis, he always wanted absolute obedience which I could never assent to. God is different because he is, you know, perfect, but I had to go through long years of trying to find the truth in various faiths becausr I rejected catholicism before I finally gave into Christ. Even then my brain expects perfection and absolute truth in christianity, so issues of doctrine that I don't agree with will turn me into a neurotic mess.

>>568509

The only crusade that I'm not proud of is the 4th one.

>>568493

And do not call anyone on earth your father, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. Matthew 23:9

>>568493

My dad is a muslim fornicator who was with 150 women before he met my mother. I have half-siblings all over europe because of this.

Mom and dad are from two separate countries. My dad cheats on my mom, my mom and me move back to her home country,

Never really see my dad but he tries to spend quality time with me, even though it costs money to get me over.

Now I never really see him, he has remarried and I now have two half sisters, which I also haven't seen for over a year.

I still feel like I can't forgive him for breaking up our family, I've definitely had many psychological issues from not having a father figure.

But I also think men with lacking father figures more often strive to be better fathers, because we know the pain of not having one. My entire life now is focused on how I can make my kids happy in the future.

>>568493

When I was younger, not great. He was incredibly impatient, had no idea how to be a parent. More or less admitted once in an argument with my mother (shortly before they divorced) that he regretted ever having children and only got married and had them because "that's what you were support to do."

We've reconciled since then and been ok since my early 20s. But it certainly played a role in me being an atheist until the last couple of years ago. Sometimes I do wonder if I ended up Orthodox as a reaction to them being (admittedly very nominal) Catholics.

>>568493

>What kind of relationship do you have with your father?

A poor one.

>How did this damage conception of God?

Massively.

>>568493

Distant Father.

>everyone either has no relationship with their father whatsoever or blames him for all their problems

"Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man."

>>581486

it's almost as if having a father is important for the healthy development of a child

>>581487

>missing the point

"And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? … Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."

when I was a child he was never home: had to work and thus stayed away for weeks at times months to feed us all. He came to meet God for real when my mom gave birth to my youngest brother and she had complications: he spent time praying and thus came to meet the Lord.

Now I'm the one who's not around and I'm kinda antisocial (I find difficult to even talk to my mother); but I try to call him once per week…

>>571386

This exactly describes my situation. Just that my parents are divorced and I stopped talking to my father when he refused to support me financially during my studies for no good reason.

I wish I had a Christian dad, and not a selfish fornicator.