850992 No.561591
Don't you guys think it's already time for Christianity to change its sexuality rules? A lot of people don't convert because of that, including myself (not the only reason, but the most important one I think). Of course, there are also people who only convert because of that, but it's probably fewer people.
A lot of rules changed over time, like usury being wrong and women having to use veils inside the church, why can't that change? As I see the stuff about sexuality is closer to Judaism, Jesus didn't talk about that too much.
Discuss.
31775d No.561593
either excellent pasta or prot redditor
a4b556 No.561594
>>561591
>gay thread
>anime post
I think I’m noticing a pattern here
23082c No.561595
850992 No.561598
>>561594
>>561593
This is a serious thread and I'm not trolling. Don't joke around guys, pls
>>561595
Hi <3
88ea2b No.561600
>>561591
>Don't you guys think it's already time for Christianity to change its sexuality rules? A lot of people don't convert because of that, including myself
No, I have same-sex attractions and yet I am a Christian. It's certainly possible. We each have our crosses to bear and individuals with same-sex attractions are just like everyone else.
Let me know if I can answer any questions for you. :)
5aa750 No.561602
>>561591
>usury being wrong
It still is.
>women having to use veils inside the church
Discipline, not doctrine.
1b07bc No.561604
Why should Christianity dilute itself so maybe some lukewarm people who love sin more than God would join? As soon as that happens, they will be spit out.
Jesus was even more strict regarding sexuality than the Jews. Adultery was already prohibited but with Jesus we learned, that even fantasizing about it is sinning. That not only your sinful actions separate you from God, no, even thoughts can cause that.
So good luck with your attempt to drag Christianity and God down to your understandings of moral. God knows better than you.
31775d No.561609
you are in luck though, many lukewarms are about these days
850992 No.561610
>>561600
I'm not (only) talking about homosexuality, but sex in general. Isn't it better if everyone just have sex with whoever they want and masturbate? It's difficult to resist that unless you live in a very strict society.
>>561602
>It still is.
It's not, I think. I was raised in a Catholic family and my father and uncle both used to work at banks. And banks practice usury obviously.
>Discipline, not doctrine
Seems just like any other rule if you read the bible, but if you're saying it, I believe in you.
d64fd5 No.561612
>>561591
This thread starts making a incredible amount of sense when you consider that OP doesn't think God is real.
5599fb No.561614
>>561591
Why do you want to be Christian in the first place? If you're here because you think it's some kind of fancy social club, you're very wrong about that. Christianity changes everything you believe in.
af8e33 No.561616
Christianity and change don't go together. "If you believe in God, remember, that there's just one truth - unchangeable, unremovable and necessary for salvation."
1b07bc No.561620
>>561610
>It's not, I think. I was raised in a Catholic family and my father and uncle both used to work at banks.
Your father and uncle are/were simple humans. They don't define the christian faith. Read the Gospels.
0923af No.561622
>>561591
>Jesus didn't talk about it that much
Why do people use this argument? The bible is inspired by the Holy Spirit so the moral law comes from God, it doesn't matter if one member of the Trinity didn't mention it if the others did.
And Christ did mention it, he said it was better to cut off your hand or gouge out your than to lust.
0923af No.561625
>>561610
>Isn't it better if everyone just have sex with whoever they want and masturbate? It's difficult to resist that unless you live in a very strict society.
People don't know what's best for them, people are happiest when they're following God's law
850992 No.561626
>>561604
>Why should Christianity dilute itself so maybe some lukewarm people who love sin more than God would join?
The more successful Christianity is, the better, don't you think?
>That not only your sinful actions separate you from God, no, even thoughts can cause that.
But you could interpret as Jesus saying to Jews: "see, if you're too attached to rules, you eventually reach impossible standards and be a hypocrite. So it's better to not think about rules too much".
Besides, adultery can only exist if you're married, and that's why it's wrong, because you betray the contract you did with your husband/wife. This has nothing to do with casual sex, or masturbation.
>>561612
I believe in a god as the creator of the universe, because it would be complicated for matter to just start existing out of nowhere. I'm not sure if he created a religion or not though.
>>561614
>Christianity changes everything you believe in
I disagree with that anon. Seems to me that most people turn into believers because they agree with Christianity in the first place. It's not like they radically change their own morals because of it. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's the impression I have.
0923af No.561628
>>561626
>The more successful Christianity is, the better, don't you think?
If the Church compromises then it's not the Church anymore
88ea2b No.561630
>>561610
>Isn't it better if everyone just have sex with whoever they want
This is why sexual diseases are so rampant in societies that don't believe in strict monogamy.
>and masturbate
Sure, if you want to have erectile dysfunction and self-control issues. It's not good for you, man.
Some people tend to think that Christian teachings on morality are a punishment for people from God, but it's really opposite of that. Look at people that strictly follow the teachings of Christ, they tend to be much more better off than those that disregard them. God isn't punishing us, rather he wants the best for us like a parent would for a child.
d64fd5 No.561631
>>561626
Do you even care, really?
Should I start prescribing that you search for miracles in the internet.
b06d52 No.561634
>>561591
>Don't you guys think it's already time for Christianity to change its sexuality rules?
They're God's rules, this isn't something the Church just started teaching out of nowhere.
>A lot of rules changed over time, like usury being wrong and women having to use veils inside the church, why can't that change?
Neither of those have changed. Just because the majority of Christians do 'x' thing that's a sin doesn't mean God changed his mind on it. It means people are sinful and imperfect.
>>561594
It's just this one guy that keeps making all these threads. Not everyone that uses anime images is a gay.
0923af No.561635
"I the LORD do not change. So you, the descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed.
God's law is eternal and won't change
87ae9b No.561638
Don't you guys think it's already time for another >gay thread >anime picture thread on /christian/? A lot of people don't make memes because of that, including myself (not the only reason, but the most important one I think). Of course, there are also people who meme despite that, but it's probably fewer people.
5599fb No.561639
>>561626
>The more successful Christianity is, the better, don't you think?
Confirmed for being a liar or believing Christianity is just a social club.
>Seems to me that most people turn into believers because they agree with Christianity
They convert because they agree with the initial claims of Christianity, but accepting the Christian worldview begins a cascade of chain reactions in your understanding of the world. Pieces fall into place. You can't un-fall out of that rabbit hole.
1b07bc No.561656
>>561626
>The more successful Christianity is, the better, don't you think?
No. Because it wouldn't be Christianity anymore. Not so difficult to understand.
>But you could interpret as Jesus saying to Jews: "see, if you're too attached to rules, you eventually reach impossible standards and be a hypocrite. So it's better to not think about rules too much".
… What? This doesn't even make any sense!
So God gives rules, but you shouldn't follow them "too much" because it's impossible anyway?! Seriously?
>Besides, adultery can only exist if you're married, and that's why it's wrong, because you betray the contract you did with your husband/wife. This has nothing to do with casual sex, or masturbation.
Lol, "casual sex"… in Christianity… Look, God doesn't adjust life to anyone's depraved beliefs. Not yours not mines not anyones. Doesn't matter if you live in an age of internet-porn and promiscuity. God does not change.
Start reading the new testament and learn about the belief you intend converting to. I'm not going to teach you on all that, because if you are really interested, you can research it for yourself. Besides, I don't have the patience to deal with that; it honestly annoys me.
If you think, "Yeah, God is powerful and created the universe and knows everything… but my liberal views on sexuality are superior to His." then Christianity is not for you.
74a76a No.561677
>>561591
>Another gay anime poster
Like poetry
7ed449 No.561678
>>561591
I still think women should wear veils unless at home and spend 90% of their time in the kitchen or bedroom.
Also
>posts anime
>is faggot
dc30fa No.561681
>>561591
Faith is about the spirit, not the body. There is little room for the church in sexual matters.
da37e7 No.561683
d64fd5 No.561685
>>561681
>Another person pretending to be Anglican
dc30fa No.561687
f989ef No.561688
>asian media
>faggotry
there are alike things appearing
42a59b No.561689
>>561600
>catholic
>a sodomite
not suprised
2b4054 No.561696
>>561591
You must conform you will to God's will, not the other way round.
ba3744 No.561697
Deuteronomy 22:5
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God.
Romans 1
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
5aa750 No.561701
>>561610
>It's not, I think. I was raised in a Catholic family and my father and uncle both used to work at banks. And banks practice usury obviously.
I know that many Catholic theologians argue that the way that modern economy works made the way banks work not usurious. I don't know anything about economy, so I won't comment on the merit of those arguments; but nobody denies that usury is wrong, only whether a particular action is usurious or not.
Besides, individual Catholics don't get to decide dogms. The Church isn't a democracy.
>Seems just like any other rule if you read the bible, but if you're saying it, I believe in you.
As regards Sola Scriptura, the New Testament wasn't created in a vacuum; its books were written while the Apostles were still alive and actively teaching. Their teachings were repeated by their successors, and so on, up to this day, the teaching being protected by God from corruption (see Matthew 16:18). A thing doesn't need to be mentioned in the Bible to be a part of faith.
23082c No.561710
>>561689
What did she mean by this?
e40620 No.561712
90e499 No.561713
>>561710
>implying fags can be saved
Also nice cherrypick boi
3aa463 No.561716
>>561713
I follow all of the doctrines and teachings of Christianity, why do you think I cannot be saved?
23082c No.561717
>>561713
>implying fags can't be saved
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
b34247 No.561720
Jesus made divorce laws stricter and equated mere mental lust to the act of adultery.
Unrepentant faggots will not see God, will not be saved and will lead enslaves lives on earth.
b34247 No.561722
>>561717
Saving faith would cleanse the faggot of his filth and make him repent and feel shame and turn away from his faggotry.
23082c No.561723
>>561722
Repenting is works.
t. Anderson
b34247 No.561724
>>561716
Faggots will not inherit the kingdom says Paul.
Christianity is more than just following doctrines your internal desires have to change , transformation of mind and body and soul has to happen. No such change can occur without destroying someones faggotry
b34247 No.561726
>>561723
Repenting is a good fruit of faith and grace.
Don't compare me to Anderson.
Faggots will never inherit the kingdom until their old selves are cleansed by fire and the self that God intended appears.
f3ea0b No.561733
>The more successful Christianity is, the better, don't you think?
I'd rather Christianity be a tiny, persecuted minority and retain its core values than for it to pursue wishy washy converts by abandoning central doctrines given by God
>Besides, adultery can only exist if you're married, and that's why it's wrong, because you betray the contract you did with your husband/wife. This has nothing to do with casual sex, or masturbation.
Even if it's not technically "adultery", it's still fornication, which is condemned in no uncertain terms as well. It's flat out stated in the epistles that unrepentant fornicators do not inherit the kingdom of God
>I disagree with that anon. Seems to me that most people turn into believers because they agree with Christianity in the first place. It's not like they radically change their own morals because of it. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's the impression I have.
If one truly converts towards Christ, it involves changing one's self and worldview.
3aa463 No.561737
>>561724
>Faggots will not inherit the kingdom says Paul.
I've never had sex with another man, but I have such attractions. Yet I go to church and follow everything that the Church teaches. How does that disqualify me from salvation?
2bb375 No.561740
>>561716
Because your a reprobate >>561697
also
>catholic
>following Christ
(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST) 2bb375 No.561741
>>561717
Can't get saved if you can't believe
c569b6 No.561742
2bb375 No.561743
>>561737
Listing after men makes you a reprobate
9e1744 No.561745
>>561743
>Once saved everyone is saved no matter what! Baby killers, cannibals, hookers, cheaters, thiefs, rapists … EVERYONE!
<unless you find another man pretty
This is your brain on Baptist.
ed4632 No.561750
>>561745
Anyone that believes is saved but if you can't believe you can't be saved.
c3a7b9 No.561752
The rmoral rules wont change because God does not change. This is never up for discussion.
b34247 No.561754
>>561737
>I follow everything the church teaches
Nice pride and delusion
>I haven't had homosex yet I just fantasize about it
Lust is a natural sin but gay lust is a double and unnatural sin. Repent and disavow all things faggotry
3aa463 No.561755
>>561740
>>561741
>>561743
>if you can't believe you can't be saved
Your logic is so dumb, I obviously believe that Jesus is Son of God.
I can be saved just like anyone else, whether you like it or not.
Avoiding fornication as a gay is the same as avoiding fornication as a hetero.
b34247 No.561757
>>561755
If you fap to gay stuff that's the same as being an active homosexual.
A hetero who faps to natural sex is not under the category of reprobation.
5cb4a8 No.561761
>>561757
I don't watch porn and I don't masturbate, either. I said it before in this thread that fornication and masturbstion are not only sins but detrimental to health.
850992 No.561762
>>561620
I've never heard working for a bank makes you a sinner according to modern Catholic doctrine.
>>561622
But Jesus is the one who started Christianity and stuff!
>>561625
Women being unhappy has more to do with them working tbh, it's not because of sex.
About porn it could very well be a "correlation does not imply causation" case, meaning people who are depressed or are not happy with their marriage watch more porn, not porn itself causing unhappiness.
>>561628
But these rules are only a small part of the church, it could go on without it.
>>561630
Obviously, if you're addicted bad things can happen, but it's not always the case. Masturbation for example has good effects on the body, like preventing cancer.
>>561631
I'm a little curious, that's why I keep coming back here, but that's it. I like you guys though :3
>>561638
>>561648
>>561677
>>561678
>>561688
Don't bully
>>561639
A lot of people seem to convert because they think society is degenerate or something, and they think christianity can fix that, isn't that true? So it's not much about the initial claims. I think it's rare for people to convert because they find the evidence for christianity overwhelming and they see no other way around it.
>>561656
>Because it wouldn't be Christianity anymore
Why? It's just a small part of it
>So God gives rules, but you shouldn't follow them "too much" because it's impossible anyway?! Seriously?
Jesus broke a bunch of rules like the sabbath, that's why they were pissed off at him
>but my liberal views on sexuality are superior to His." then Christianity is not for you.
Of course I have to admit I like my "depravity" as you put it, I won't lie, but then there is the fact is almost impossible not to sin because of sexual things. Like, imagine not even having lustful thoughts and stuff, it's too hard!
>>561681
But some churches disagree about it already.
>>561720
Read about my alternative interpretation of those verses here >>561626
>>561616
>>561634
>>561635
>>561701
>>561752
Ok, so how about slavery? This rule I'm sure it changed. Before even popes had slaves, catholic and protestant countries colonized and enslaved tons of people, but today slavery is condemned by almost all churches. So it clearly can change in some ways!
b4b15b No.561765
>>561755
Besides God rejected you. You can believe in catholicism all you want because everyone in that religion burns in hell any ways
(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST) b34247 No.561770
>>561761
Gays watch porn twice as much as straights so the idea that you never watched gay shit is false.
Once a reprobate always a reprobate.
There is no "response" or arfument to being unelected. We know faggots by their bad fruits.
b34247 No.561771
>>561770
>arfument
Argument
…darn phone spelling
5ea5cd No.561775
>my view of sexuality is superior to that set out by the Creator of all things
>I will only accept him as my Lord if he kowtows to my views on this topic
niBBa did you even think before typing that
377ed6 No.561776
>>561750
I've known gay people who believe with greater strength and conviction than you ever will, burptist. Go suck off a KJV.
(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST) ca0c03 No.561779
>>561591
Our world is drowning in sexuality. Restraint better serves the interests of the righteous.
5ea5cd No.561782
>>561775
** Him
I am sorry
b4b15b No.561794
>>561780
Some sins are unforgivable
Jeremiah 6:30 Reprobate silver shall men call them, because the LORD hath rejected them.
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
b4b15b No.561795
>>561776
>he doesn't know who Judas was
5cb4a8 No.561801
>>561765
As I said,
>I obviously believe that Jesus is Son of God.
Wouldn't it fall under the Sola Fide category? :^)
>>561770
Dude you don't know me and yet you're making assumptions, stop.
You don't see Jesus turning sinners away, we can repent.
b06d52 No.561805
>>561762
>Ok, so how about slavery? This rule I'm sure it changed. Before even popes had slaves, catholic and protestant countries colonized and enslaved tons of people
1 Timothy 1:9-12 States that enslavers are contrary to the Gospel, It's actually paired with homosexuality. So I'll go back to what I first said, Men are imperfect and will constantly fall to sin. This doesn't mean God's word is wrong or that people shouldn't at the very least try to follow it.
866e15 No.561814
>>561801
No, because you trust in your works to save. And you're sodomite
2a4172 No.561819
>>561794
“I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.” (1 Timothy 2)
To call someone reprobate, is an extremely dangerous action. It is the worst possible condemnation you can call upon someone. If the measure by which we judge will be used upon us, are you not calling the worst possible judgement upon yourself?
Would it not be more profitable to instead pray for the mercy and salvation of every man?
866e15 No.561824
>>561819
Besides he is
Romans 1
>26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
>27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
>28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
604b30 No.561838
>>561814
Throw 'em off the roof, am I right Ahmed?
866e15 No.561842
>>561838
>believing muslims who was most likely a papist framing Baptists
>no argument
866e15 No.561846
>>561838
>>561842
Also no, they should be burned to death to get them ready for the flames of hell
(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST) 604b30 No.561847
>>561842
>>561846
You don't have to pretend with me, Abdul. Sala'amu Alaikum, akhi!
3aa463 No.561849
>>561846
t. closet homo
You don't have to continue pretending. ;)
866e15 No.561850
>>561849
>If you follow God's law your a homo
Kill your self heathen
b06d52 No.561852
>>561846
Murder is a sin.
>>561849
>You hate spiders too much, so you must secretly want to be bit by them
Also stop false flagging Catholics. We have enough people as it is doing that as Anglican, baptist, and orthodox.
866e15 No.561853
>>561852
Not murder if they deserve to die
377ed6 No.561854
>>561850
>>561851
>Baptist getting rage filled ass ravaged over being called a homo on an image board
toppest kek
866e15 No.561856
>>561854
>me following God's law makes me butt-hurt
5cb4a8 No.561857
>>561853
Why do I deserve to die? Because I struggle with my sins? You need to rethink your positions, man.
Also, are you really using Old Testament laws?
>>561852
I'm not even false flagging tho
50145c No.561860
>>561857
Just stop replying. He's not a Baptist. Actual Baptists - as in, the ones who don't suckle on Anderson's nutsack - believe that homosexuals can be saved and don't deserve to be murdered.
You're just feeding a troll from /islam/.
850992 No.561861
>>561854
>>561852
>>561851
>>561850
>>561849
>>561838
>>561770
>>561776
>>561805
>>561814
>>561848
The thread isn't even about gays though y-yes, i like guys, but that's besides the point
d5adcc No.561862
>>561635
Here’s what the verse actually says:
“For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.”
70db8b No.561864
850992 No.561865
>>561864
Straight anal sex is sodomy too, so you might as well call them "sodomites"
892551 No.561872
>>561865
We go by the biblical definition of the term. Your Jewish word magix have no power here.
35778c No.561876
>>561872
anal is always gay and unnatural
000ee5 No.561880
>>561724
>>561713
AND SUCH WERE SOME OF YOU
Andersonism is a heresy.
b06d52 No.561881
>>561861
So what are you talking about? Do you just want to sleep around like a prostitute?
>>561864
>not trying to help a sinner find Christ
>>561865
>Straight anal sex is sodomy too, so you might as well call them "sodomites"
Yeah, and? I don't get why people think this is some "gotcha" against Christians like we aren't against all of it.
The thing about sodomy though is, straight sex doesn't have to be sodomy, Homosexuals can only commit sodomy. It's like the word "killer", not everyone who kills is a murderer, but every murderer is a killer.
Also just want to point this out. God doesn't only talk about sodomites, He specifically talks about men who lay down with men.
000ee5 No.561882
>>561824
1 Cor 6:11
Crack open that KJV and tell me what you find there.
000ee5 No.561888
Andersonism (the belief that all those with same sex attraction are reprobate) is heresy. Three points:
First: The tendency toward SSA need not be sinful in itself, any more than noticing a beautiful woman need not be committing adultery or fornication mentally. (Romans 6:12)
Second: It denies sins may be forgiven. None of us are entirely regenerated, we all have sinful natures. However, we can be assured of forgiveness by repentance. (Luke 18:9-14, Acts 3:19)
Third: The Bible pretty explicitly states all sins except sins against the Holy Spirit can be forgiven. No one claims homosexuality is sin against the Holy Spirit. And homosexuality is even mentioned this in a list of forgiven sins (1 Cor 6:9-11).
In conclusion, this is a worldly bias, and introduction of error. Stop it. (Matt 18:6)
70db8b No.561903
>>561888
First: God knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished. (2 Peter 2:9). People aren't born that way, it isn't an accident. God knew what He was doing when he gave them up to vile affections.
Second: We all have sinful natures, but only a few are given up to a reprobate mind to do "those things which are not convenient," given up to vile affections which are "against nature." (Romans 1:24-28). The Corinthians weren't. (1 Corinthians 10:13)
Third: Homosexuality is the result, not the sin itself. (Romans 1:24-25). Nobody turns into sodomite at all unless they turned their back on God and become reprobate first as Romans 1 says. In other words it is impossible to even be tempted by it without first being reprobate, it is the result of God giving up on them. Otherwise it's simply not a temptation.
And as for 1 Corinthians 6:9, your version probably mistranslates that. It says abusers of themselves with mankind. And from 1 Corinthians 10:13 we know we as Christians are not taken by temptations not common to man or lusts that are against nature, as it is called in Romans 1:26. Without are dogs.
>Matt 18:6
You do not see fit to protect innocent children from the sodomite dogs. Because of this, they are then recruited, the disease spreads further. The disease is getting out of control now.
88ea2b No.561904
>>561903
>You do not see fit to protect innocent children from the sodomite dogs.
People can repent, you know.
70db8b No.561907
>>561904
If God hardens them though, then it's a different story. See John 12:39-40, Romans 9:15-23. It's time to start paying attention to the full word of God, not just your personal cafeteria selection. Everyone who has faith in the Lord Jesus Christ will be saved, but unfortunately we are told that not all will believe or repent or be justified. And furthermore, Romans 1 is a warning to watch out for these people because they hate God. You can throw me in prison but I will still raise the alarm.
19219c No.561912
God does not change reality to fit your sins.
6e14c8 No.561922
>changing the Holy Word just to make more people happy
Leave
af1264 No.561928
There's no such thing as 'sexuality rules', there is only the truth and purpose. You wouldn't want a computer for example to act in a way that it wasn't supposed to act. Likewise, the world's obsession with sex and sexuality is a perversion of God's design for us procreating. What used to be something used to make children in wedlock is now a form of glorified pleasure.
50145c No.561942
>>561907
>It's time to start paying attention to the full word of God
>not just your personal cafeteria selection
>he says while pointing out his personal cafeteria selection
70db8b No.561946
>>561942
>doesn't even try to find scripture with which to respond to me
11e866 No.561948
>>561946
>needs scripture to tell him not to pick and choose scripture
70db8b No.561951
>>561948
>can't post any scripture to support his claim, but requires the other side to post the entire bible in one block or else it's automatically out of context and no further explanation is needed
I can post more support, it's just a question of why should I do that when you haven't even responded to the scripture I did post and I have responded to all of yours.
1 Corinthians 6:9 is mistranslated except in the KJV and maybe a few other literalist translations.
f39041 No.561967
>>561591
Theoretically speaking, would Jesus be friends with gay anime posters?
dfc1f3 No.561984
>>561689
>baptist
>a heretic
not surprised
35778c No.561994
If you willingly identify as a sin, and say "I'm gay", you're already goofing up.
43ca29 No.562002
>>561591
>Anime poster
>Most of them only want to talk about sex related topics
>Wants the change but does not even know why those aforementioned changes in the first place
>Cannot differentiate between the mans traditions and the Words of God
Sigh…
88ea2b No.562023
>>561907
So you're saying people with same-sex attractions shouldn't even bother with Christianity? In your opinion, should I just walk away from Christianity?
892551 No.562030
>>562023
Which is more important to you? Where there's a will there's a way.
88ea2b No.562033
>>562030
I mean I already said I repented from homo shit a long time ago.
b29c53 No.562058
Non possumus
The "rules" of christianity is not something the Church, some pastor or the episcopal conference can decide. We have not the authority. God has already revealed the opinions he has on sexuality and that's. We only can transmit, teach, and explain. But we cannot change any rule.
e49034 No.562158
>>562033
Then stop identifying with them.
381afa No.562196
>>561591
Can't compromise with death. When I was in the community, people kept on dying like flies due to organ failure, stds, body mods, etc.
59b63d No.562200
>>561591
>A lot of rules changed over time, like usury being wrong and women having to use veils inside the church
I hope this is bait. AFAIK the only reason the veil thing changed was mainly because understanding of science had changed. In short we used to think hair was a sexual organ that stored semen. Because hair was a sexual organ it was required to cover that stuff up in church. You don't go to church with your dick out now do you? I'm not sure but I think some groups like the orthodox still required women to wear veils during church. The usury thing still holds true, (((they))) just changed the definition of the word. You can't change the sin friendo, that's like changing the definition of murder to having a walk outside. Doesn't mean murder isn't a sin anymore now does it?
t. non christian, please correct me if I'm wrong
53ae52 No.562201
>>562200
1 Corinthians 11:7-10 A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man. Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. For this reason a woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head, because of the angels.
1 Corinthians 11:13 Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered?
You were very wrong.
59b63d No.562203
>>562201
Honestly this head covering thing confuses me so much. I've made threads about it before and that was the conclusion I got to from there. It was mainly due to some paper written that was linked in a thread about what I said. If I can find the link I'll post it for context.
39cbca No.562209
>>561862
Actually it says:
"I am God—yes, I Am. I haven’t changed. And because I haven’t changed, you, the descendants of Jacob, haven’t been destroyed. You have a long history of ignoring my commands. You haven’t done a thing I’ve told you. Return to me so I can return to you,” says God-of-the-Angel-Armies.
“You ask, ‘But how do we return?’"
3a34ea No.566334
>>561591
Women should actually wear the veil in the Church just as men should keep their head not covered.
Usury is ugly.
Stop fapping.
Back to Reddit.
c787c5 No.566446
>>561861
>Y-yes I like guys
And *there* it is. Without fail, whenever you see someone demanding the Church change God's word and law to "fit the times", it's always homos or their defenders
9df224 No.566802
>>561861
No offence dude, but your psyche has been warped by some familiar spirit that has inclined you to femininity and that's why you talk like a faggot and your shit's all retarded. Stop posting supplementary girly anime pictures to solidify this persona to yourself and influence others, Christianity is not about to say sodomy is cool because you think the sexual immorality rules are arbitrary and mean.
fb7204 No.567070
>>561689
inb4 mos ban this post out of butthurt
776700 No.573595
Why do fags act like Jews twisting words to fit their depravity? Why do they have to ruin animeposting? All faggots should be grateful that normal people haven't exterminated them all, they surely deserve it.
I am having a really hard time not going out and butchering every last one of them, they are so disgusting.
38b977 No.573612
>>573595
Because they are evil. They try to infiltrate every movement, try to drag others down with them(including kids) and are narcissistic. And this faggot has no idea what he’s talking about btw. Being anti sexual immorality is one of the cornerstones of Christianity and this faggot should join another religion. It’s mind boggling to me how there are Christian fags. They obviously don’t read the Bible. But even if they did they wouldn’t care, they’d infiltrate anyway. Because what they really want to do, is destroy us.
06e770 No.574003
Your perspective of conversion seems to be the main problem. Christianity calls people to self mastery, and that includes the sexual aspects of ourselves, so it does regulate sex. Do you know what you "want" to convert to? Conversion is a literal conversion, a conversion of yourself into something else, that is fundamentally opposed to your former self you're moving away from. It's not about the religion converting itself to serve your current self's interests.
7f6268 No.574023
>hey Im a fag
>anime post
Starting to think Baptist are right and homosexuals simply lack the ability to be saved, or they're mentally ill and God will forgive them for not being able to comprahend reality correctly
eb75c1 No.574029
>>574023
They can be, but not with the lovey-dovey bullshit "acceptance" that the theologically liberal spew.
c3a7b9 No.574034
9c8412 No.574042
>>561861
>nobody posted Leviticus 20:13 here (except the pic with Anderson)
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them"
eb75c1 No.574049
>>574034
I'm not a leftist. Homosexuals, if they die in sin, go to hell. But they can repent of their sin, and stop sinning, and be saved. Like Fr. Seraphim Rose who I just posted.
>Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, NOR ABUSERS OF THEMSELVES WITH MANKIND,
>Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
>AND SUCH WERE SOME OF YOU: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
- 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 [emphasis mine]
eb75c1 No.574054
>>574034
It should be made clear that I'm only challenging the false, heretical belief held by a minority of Baptists who claim that all homosexuals cannot ever repent.
f2d8c1 No.574070
>Don't you think it's time for Christianity to change x?
No, because Christianity represents eternal truths. If the temporal world chooses to move away from those truths, then so much worse for the temporal world.
b5622e No.574078
>>561591
Doctrine regarding discipline can be changed, like the veils. I don't think it's good to condone loose discipline, but it can be changed nevertheless. Doctrine about faith and morals cannot. Also, as we can see, conforming to the modern world has nearly ruined Christianity.
02095a No.574093
>>561591
>time for Christianity to change
How many times progressivism have to prove itself as a cancer ?
Anon christianity is some liberal/political manifesto.
>>561610
>but sex in general. Isn't it better if everyone just have sex with whoever they want and masturbate?
t. THOT
>>574070
This.
9fad65 No.574101
>>561716
too far gone.
>>561755
>prolapsing anuses and sucking cocks
>same as vaginal sex
>>561857
because you fuck kids, spread diseases, are obnoxous, disgusting to look at and your whole life is based around your decadence.
c284d7 No.574132
>Why can't that which is eternal change for that which is modern?
84d58c No.574145
>>561801
>You don't see Jesus turning sinners away, we can repent.
You don't even want to repent, you want to pull down the whole Church into your depravity. If only one iota of the smallest truth were to change then all would be for naught. I'd rather have a Church of a hand full that's true than a Church that leads the masses into damnation. What's the point of attracting lukewarm fags when they don't change and go to hell anyway? What's the point of the Church when it just keeps people on their way into the eternal hell fire? You need to stop this or you are lost. That's all.
b0f9d6 No.578534
>>561689
>doesn't practice sodomy
>is a sodomite
pick one
b0f9d6 No.578544
>>561737
Don't worry about those shitposters, they're practically like demons trying to deceive you by making you believe that all your efforts are in vain which could cause you to just say "fuck it then" and give up. No one goes to hell for thoughts.
efe9b1 No.578561
>>561591
Who bumped the gay anime poster thread
6c021f No.578563
665edb No.578582
>>561737
I have homosexual thoughts all the time but don’t act, Also do you watch gay porn?, because that definitely is going to give you homosexual tendencies
95686f No.578587
a998ed No.578635
When resting in the direct experience of the presence of God, there is no resistance to homosexuality. To believe that love for one's fellow man takes away the love of God, is lunacy.
8dc336 No.578638
>>578635
That's not love, my dear friend. That's lust. If you stopped being a false prophet your thought's wouldn't be corrupt.
And for reference, we will be like angels in heaven, nobody will copulate or even think about copulating.
a998ed No.578648
>That's not love, my dear friend. That's lust.
My point remains. When you rest in the peace of the presence of God, there is no judgement of homosexuality. If you are judging, you are not resting in the peace of the presence of God; you are caught up in the drama of your emotions.
a998ed No.578651
>>578650
The response of someone who does not know the peace of resting in the presence of God. Why are you here?
3e60a3 No.578654
>>578651
To laugh at your pseudo buddhism and tolerance to buggery.
a998ed No.578655
>>578654
You know not the peace of the presence of God, yet you call others false prophets?
3e60a3 No.578659
>>578655
>ID's
I'll be at peace in the presence of God when I'm in Heaven, until then I'll contend and strive for the faith. Choosing false peace instead of taking an unwavering position against sin is wicked and evil.
Matthew 10:34,35
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
e11c2a No.578673
>>561591
>Quit /christian/ for one month
>finally come back
>This thread is still here
Why?
8dc336 No.578729
>>578648
>>578655
>Implying there can be peace when there's sin nearby
>Implying Peace with God isn't there because Heaven is sinless
You are wildly mistaken.
0465ee No.578739
>>561591
Why do you want us to believe that Jesus Christ did not die for our sins?
dcbca3 No.578747
>>561594
no you don't, anime posters stand against fags
a426bb No.578749
>>578747
satan cannot stand against himself
19219c No.578762
>>561689
>baptist
>is retarded
not suprised
8dc336 No.578858
>>578749
Imagine Jesus Christ exorcising demons but the Pharisees double down on their argument and argue the demons he exorcised aren't even gone.
de1693 No.578863
>>561591
>A lot of rules changed over time, like usury being wrong
>usury isn't wrong anymore
Who is behind this post?
ce1f1c No.578954
>>578659
Why wait until you're dead to live a peaceful life? God is HERE, NOW. The peace of God's presence is the ONLY true peace; all other is false.
Your perception of sin =/= God's perception of sin.
The quote from Matthew can be used to argue against anything, and you can use any other quote from Christ to contradict that quote. Try arguing from your own experience of God rather than cherry pick quotes from someone else's experience.
7e0355 No.583524
>Don't you guys think it's already time for Christianity to change its sexuality rules?
Read the Bible and follow what it says. Organized religious institutions get in the way of your relationship with God.
The basic stance on sex according to the Bible is not to be irresponsible, and if in a relationship, no adultery.
It does not prohibit most other things that pseudo-christians may claim it does, so don't let them dupe you.
The purpose of the Bible is not to tell you what to do, it's to show you how to be, so that you may gain favor in God's eyes.
Remember the Page 1 test - if you deny or reject Genesis 1, specifically the part where God describes his creation of earth as a flat, stationary, enclosed realm - then you have work to do. Truth brings you closer to God.
e0fe3c No.583525
>>561591
Hi Azrael from discord
6ae5ed No.583531
>>583524
Your science denial is great, but do you still deny that fornication is sin?
35119c No.583532
>Don't you guys think it's already time for Christianity to change…
no
to actually answer you my desires are an abomination in the eyes of the lord, not to mention impractical, and for that reason I am celibate
it isnt an issue
733a61 No.583580
88ea2b No.583585
>>583580
maybe we'd let him back in if he wasn't so keen on spreading faggotry and homosexuality
9adf37 No.583850
I'm not a teacher and this is just my personal opinion, but I think that if you really would want to be a Christian other than this one thing holding you back, maybe you should go ahead and try anyway. Sex outside of marriage and masturbation are considered sins, but Jesus called sinners to be his friends and followers forever and not the self-righteous. Maybe you will want to change your ways on this one thing some day, or maybe not, but I think if you really want to believe that Jesus is the Son of God and want to be part of God's adopted family, He'll be happy you're taking any step to try to be near to Him.
Have this anime girl pichur OP and have a nice day. <3
3bcb14 No.583882
>>561591
Of course! Let's re-write the bible, it's all outdated and not up to date anyways, and make it more LGBTQ-friendly, and let's not say sinners will go to hell, and just say they will be given a polite, friendly warning, would that be better?
cc23ec No.583886
>>561591
>litterally a slippery slope
>implying faggots
reminder that religions maintain themselves through intergenerational filiation, which the faggots can't do.
on top of that, every single group who associate with that filth invariably perishes, while those who curbstomp that filth flourish.
case in point: no more faggot BBQ in christian land, christianity devolves, while the mudshits teach the fairies how to fly, they spread.
it's almost like letting notorious traitors alive would lead to terrible consequences.
251895 No.583969
Stop bumping this shitty thread
afb199 No.584560
>Don't you guys think it's already time for Christianity to change its sexuality rules?
>Cri weeb who will never have sex complaining that they can't convert cause the rules on sex is to strict
cf23c8 No.584915
>Change the rules so more people will join
this is what protestants actually believe
ef9d33 No.584936
>>584915
Did you even read the thread?
62b5bf No.584948
>>561591
>Isn't it time the eternal, unchanging lord of existence changed to suit my whim?
I think it's about time the board got an "I'm an unrepentant faggot, debate me" general