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dcc3d9 No.556034

So my priest told me it's not important to confess before taking the eucharist and he didn't care. What the fuck? Is this the actual state of the catholic church? Guess I'll become orthodox and stop sharing the body of christ with defilers

25e2ef No.556037

>>556034

>one priest speaks for the whole of the Church

[-]


dcc3d9 No.556042

>>556037

I know that 99% of people that attend my church never confess. They only offer it if you call and schedule a meeting. The confession cabinets are never used


4893f4 No.556054

>>556042

This isn't good. My father and I are usually the only people at confession when we go. This past week, we were running 15 minutes late and when we got there the priest was moving chairs that were stored in the room where confession is made, meaning we were likely the first and only people going to confession there.


cf8e08 No.556056

Seems like he just taugh you heresy.

God bless and have a nice evening.


3fd608 No.556061

If you think that perfect priests and laypeople exist in the Orthodox Church, you're wrong. In fact, we're the first among all sinners, and any true Orthodox will confess this.

Convert because your heart has turned to Orthodoxy, not out of resentment for the people in your church.

God bless.


25ac32 No.556065

Your priest has the mission to protect the chalice. He knows better than you do. Do what he says. If it's somehow objectively wrong, then the guilt is upon him anyway, not upon you.

Point to the CCC and the Church Fathers if you really think that what he's doing is objectively wrong.


c1376e No.556077

Meh, I haven't gone to confession since I was a teenager. Though I do personally repent whenever I realize I've sinned.

God is my judge.


5f89b8 No.556079

Bait.


55a36c No.556080

>>556037

Woah dude, you can't just call out the pope like that.


afc85c No.556125

Did you just convert recently? If so I understand how you feel, but don't let priests who do not take their ministry seriously drag you down to hell with them.

This is our cross to bear in this crisis of the church. If you are unwilling to bear it, you can go pretend to be a Christian in another church like you want to do. Our most blessed Lord will give us all the Graces necessary to live through these times.

Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

if you're willing to follow Him here are some resources

https://www.churchmilitant.com

http://latinmassdir.org


dcc3d9 No.556133

>>556125

Yes I am recently converted. Why do you say I have to go "pretend" to be a christian elsewhere?


25e2ef No.556136

>>556133

Your OP makes it clear.

>Well, this church doesn't cater to me. I'll go join another!

What makes you think any church will cater to you?


b37b8e No.556138

File: 804d697669d4f45⋯.png (956.4 KB, 1440x1080, 4:3, 804d697669d4f45c8d40d630f5….png)

>>556136

Do you have to be so insulting to him?

OP, do what your heart tells you to.


25e2ef No.556142

>>556138

Pointing out the truth isn't insulting. If I had called him names or made certain untoward allusions to what he might do with his mother at night, that would be an insult.


b37b8e No.556147

>>556142

Okay, but from my perspective you were chastising him for how serious he was taking the Sacraments.

But I don't want to get into a flame war.


1fcf9d No.556148

just go to a catholic church that takes it seriously then.


afc85c No.556161

File: 47b769a1381b8c9⋯.jpg (9.51 MB, 3543x2359, 3543:2359, diesirae.jpg)

>>556133

because you want to schism from the Catholic Church, the bride of Christ, so your life is easier. It is pretending to be a Christian, because we are called to be holy like our heavenly father, and to pick up our cross and follow him. You are throwing down your cross thinking you can follow him without it, but you can't. The cross is everything. It is like a man who wants to go to heaven but will not divorce sin. How can a man be in the presence of God with sin on his soul?

>have

I never said that. I posted out of charity, I took time out of my life to urge you to pick up your cross and become like Christ. I hope you will, because outside of that, outside of God, there is only misery.

If you want advice or prayers, I'm there for you. I recently converted and I know what it's like. you read about the faith and heroes of the faith online or in books, and then you go into pews where no one shows reverence, not even the priest, and then you get some uninspired homily that does not help you at all in the spiritual war and is some feel good crap. after that you receive communion, and it seems every parish is filled with Saints that never sin because nobody confesses. Nobody seems aware of what they are receiving, or who is present. and at Christmas and Easter there is a three times as many people, for some reason the priest is really happy about this. God have mercy on these pastors, for on that dreadful day of wrath, everyone will know of their deeds.


4893f4 No.556163

>>556148

Might be harder than you think. One of my parish priests has left, leaving my parish–three churches over like 30 miles between the two furthest–has only one priest now. Over 50% of the priests in my diocese are 70 years old or older and about a third are 75% or over.


dcc3d9 No.556182

>>556161

Thank you for your post. I am not offended by what you said earlier. The thing is I want to fight sin in my life, hence why confession seems necessary. I guess in the world we live in, I must make this path alone and confess directly to God, as I've been doing, and let him judge me accordingly.


dcc3d9 No.556186

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>>556163

Same, only very old people come to my church. Usually we are about 20-30 in the church, every one with white hair. Ofcourse I love my brethen in christ, however even the priests seems to have given up on the dying church. To be honest it pains me a lot


83f5eb No.556438

My priest does confessions every start of lent and advent and recommends we do the same and boy howdy am I not looking forward to it


0352f8 No.556510

Maybe you're being scrupulous? Confess when the Spirit moves you too.


afc85c No.556527

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>>556182

It's not that easy. If you can find a traditional priest, you'll be fine and he'll even teach you the faith.

you can find one near you here.

http://latinmassdir.org

Otherwise you have to learn the faith from the internet and harass priests for confession and know exactly what's a sin and what's not, as they might wrongly say that's not a sin or that's a sin. There is no alternative for the sacrament of reconciliation.

As a recent convert, most likely you still sin mortally, so you need confession extremely to keep you in the fight and receiving communion.


f88564 No.556938

File: 96a92fcc1e7d3f1⋯.jpg (140.28 KB, 450x720, 5:8, 1506009879404.jpg)

>>556527

I should I approach a priest so that he might teach me the faith better? I read tons of books etc but I want a direct experience and a guide into the christian life. Is that even possible or should I go about it alone? There's only one church that offer latin mass in my entire country so I will try to go, but I'm not sure how it will turn out. Thanks anon for sharing your own experience


c7c731 No.556957

Now form the VERY MINUTE this thread was posted I knew replies like those would pop up:

>>556034

Now here comes the Catholic traditionalism argument. You can't go against your priest even if he tells you the eucharist isn't the body of christ and if you stop going to the Church you always go, you're "being a coward".

I am always amazed by the pure ignorance. Don't you realize taking false communion with christ is strangely like(Though not equal to) taking part in pagan practices? Are you seriously telling me the optimal strategy to deal with heretics is to join and pray with them? Am I misunderstanding you?

This is just batshit insane, every time.


afc85c No.557047

File: c21a051df1f0090⋯.jpg (433.74 KB, 1000x750, 4:3, 300confirmed.jpg)

>>556938

of course, talk to him about how you've learned the faith on your own but want to learn from some one. In my Latin mass Parish there's usually one or two classes of catechism per month for adult. Catholicism is community oriented, while Protestantism is all about individualism.

Which country do you live in? myself, I drive about 45 minutes to get to mass on Sundays. There are many who drive longer, because it's so important and crucial to the faith to have a reverent mass and good doctrine.

yeast is like doctrine. You put some in some bread and it will make the whole rise. Beware of bad doctrine, because a small quantity will make the whole rise.


4caae0 No.557091

>>557047

Should I call the church before going, saying I want to join and talk to the priest? Not even sure what I'd say to be honest. I'll assist the latin mass this sunday


6d38cd No.557097

>>556034

Stop going to a Norvus Ordo church. If you want a real confession attend SSPX or FSSP.


25e2ef No.557100

>>557097

>Novus Ordo doesn't have confession

>Go to this sede church instead

Remove that flag.


6d38cd No.557109

>>557100

>NO

>serious confession

pick one you

>sede

What's it like being a brainlet?


4893f4 No.557115

>>557109

What's the difference between a NO confession and SSPX or FSSP one?


501606 No.557119

>>557115

The sspx priest must be at least level 12 to do confession


4a6497 No.557121

>>557115

fssp are normal members of the church

sspx i honestly have no clue at this point


cf8e08 No.557127

>>557097

NO is ok. It's the western clergy that is a problem. I don't hear my priests teaching heresy.

>>557100

neither of those are sedes


cf8e08 No.557131

>>557121

We should have a site like this one

http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/

that tells if particular group is in communion with rome or not in current moment


25e2ef No.557145

>>557109

Novus Ordo requires Confession.

SSPX are not in communion with Rome.

If you don't know that, then you're not Catholic. Remove that flag.


501606 No.557156

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>>557145

>SSPX are not in communion with Rome


25e2ef No.557172

>>557156

SSPX marriages are recognized, but confession and communion are not.

"The fact that the Society of Saint Pius X does not possess a canonical status in the Church is not, in the end, based on disciplinary but on doctrinal reasons. … In order to make this clear once again: Until the doctrinal questions are clarified, the Society has no canonical status in the Church, and its ministers — even though they have been freed of the ecclesiastical penalty — do not legitimately exercise any ministry in the Church." Pope Benedict XVI


11ceb4 No.557188

>>556077

This is some "I have a special relationship with God" tier shit.


5f89b8 No.557198

>>557172

SSPX confessions are valid.


afc85c No.557206

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>>557091

If it was not a Latin mass I would say to call and arrange a meeting, but just go and hear the mass, and afterwards there will probably be, in the presbyter or basement, a coffee hour for people to talk after mass. Then I'd go there and talk to the priest and tell him a bit about your situation and then ask him if you could talk some more another time and you can ask him to introduce you to other people if you want. They'll be your new family in Christ. that's his job and he'll be thrilled.


25e2ef No.557210

>>557198

No, they are not. Both Pope Benedict XVI and Pope Francis have noted that the SSPX is not in "full communion" with the Catholic Church.

In order for a priest to validly witness marriages and grant absolution in confession, a priest requires not only the sacrament of Holy Orders but also the faculties — or permission — of a bishop in union with the Pope. Although Pope Francis has extended faculties to absolve sins, he has not granted similar faculties for SSPX clergy to validly witness marriages.

Your fee-fees don't matter. Both living Popes have stated very clearly that SSPX is NOT valid and you need to stop claiming that they are. You are endangering people's souls.


6d38cd No.557214

File: a194a91ae75f87a⋯.jpg (59.43 KB, 300x384, 25:32, genuflect bitch.JPG)

>>557145

>>557210

>>557145



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