>>553888
Mashiach = King of Jews, essentially.
>>553889
>Christians are not procluded from errors, however if a "prophet" spouts obviously heretical doctrine, he is a heretic. Christ offended the Pharisees who were themselves heretics, Jesus had the correct interpretation.
I'm just saying the Pharisees thought Jesus was a heretic from their point of view, which explain their actions.
I guess you could argue that Jesus showed them miracles, so they are totally in the wrong for doing what their did, which is fair. It's a little weird to me why would anyone refuse to acknowledge miracles happening right in front of them though (of course, this is a recurrent theme in the Torah too, people constantly disobeying God despite witnessing him).
>Yes, but you are claiming your religion was correct to kill him.
I'm saying it's more understandable considering historical context. Of course it was sill a totally wrong and awful thing to do! Same thing applies to Christians who persecuted Jews.
>Wrong, the Jews made the final desision.
I'm offering an alternative explanation, but it goes against the Bible.
>>553892
You seem a little mad friend.
>Jesus fulfilled over 350 prophecies in the Old Testament, that is a fact
I recommend the book "Why the Jews Rejected Jesus: The Turning Point in Western History", it's an interesting reading and I'm sure it will make you understand our perspective better ^^
>>553893
It's just an alternative explanation, something to think about! but yes, it goes against the Bible, so I understand why you have problems accepting it.
>>553894
Yes, and?
>>553896
I understand, thank you friend!
Satania is for bullying though
>>553912
I see, I understand /pol/ being passionate and all, but they do go a little too far…
>>553950
>I am against Jews that believe they're the chosen of God and therefore the goyim are here to serve and die for them,
Well, I don't know that many Jews personally, but I wouldn't say they think so low of you.
>Both Zionist and liberal Jews fall into this.
But these are two vastly different groups, it doesn't make much sense to group them together, even if you think both are evil somehow.
>Maybe in individual situations, but that doesn't mean they're aren't opposing spiritual systems. different Gods, different culture, different morality on Sex.
True, but this is the same for any other religion, right? Christian have their differences with Buddhists, Muslims, Atheists, etc.
>What did Christians do your people?
Jews were pretty discriminated against in Christian societies, that's a pretty uncontroversial fact.
>It's insulting that you seriously expect us to join Judaism
You misunderstand me, I don't expect any of you to join Judaism at all. Not even religious Jews want to convert people, me much less. But since you already believe in some Jewish stories, I just figured it would be easier for you to accept the whole religion. Not that I want you to, or anything.
>Your people have been and will forever be the cause of soo much evil
Every group of people and nation committed many atrocities before.
>Just because you're not in the 1% doesn't mean you don't benefit from this political power.
Now you sound like those people who talk about white privilege anon. I worked for everything I have.
>. Imagine a world where every nation had a labor system that actually helped the working class, and isn't a dead to inheritance, where corporations aren't legally people, where wages aren't lowered every time a political identity is created and used. Where the media isn't just a whore to whatever targeted filth is being pushed
The system was never fair for poor working class people, regardless of who is in charge.
>>554168
>>553922
http://talmud.faithweb.com/articles/jesusnarr.html
Read this and see what you think!
>Soros, Rothschild, and the heads of almost all major media outlets.
Soros is pretty hated in Israel
>>553953
>And that is why Judaism is wrong (except for maybe Ultra-Orthodox). Most forms of Judaism have fallen victim to liberalism. It's a cultural thing. Lame.
I find it kind of cool, I mean, it's important to preserve culture, heritage and such things! Everybody should do that in my opinion. But I get what you are saying, it's not the same when you don't believe in everything anymore.
>Anderson not withstanding, most Baptists spend a great deal of time agreeing with all of Israel's decisions.
Sorry, like I said, I really don't know much about American politics and religion. I guess there are people pro and against in every sect of Christianity, so I won't generalize.
>>554026
Rude desu.
>>554077
It still is the most relevant Christian church to this day, isn't it? Also it was a church know for having some problems with Jews, but we are buddies now, so this is nice.