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>>540471

Nope.

IIRC Hierotheos Vlachos has nice books about this subject.

>>540471

Have you tried talking to your priest?

There are plenty of Christian therapists, you should try to find one if you think it will help you. Had multiple therapists in the past and none helped significantly until i had a Christian one. He understood my motivations for most things, and helped me in realizing why some of what I wanted to do was hurting me.

>>540630

>He understood my motivations for most things

Great point. I can't imagine a Jewish therapist being able to understand a Christian's motivation in the slightest.

>>540471

I've benefited from therapy a lot. You just need a good therapist. There is a lot of power in talking things through, but for multiple reasons your friends and family aren't good targets for unloading piles of childhood trauma.

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>>540709

Thank you. I'll seek therapy and make sure he's not Jewish.

>>540471

>they're all a bunch of communist jews

95% are; then there are a few good Christian ones…but very few. My mom knows a couple of them, but I always refused other people's help.

If you can find a good Christian one, then consider asking him/her for help: but like >>540857 suggested, ask your spiritual father.

>>540857

Or better yet, find a therapist who's a believer.

>>541010

Yeah, like he said a spiritual father not a jewish quack with a college degree in post-modernism

Did Pastor Peale not say, "When one finds themselves sick, it behooves them to send for their preist as they send for their doctor?".

>>540857

>Most psychotherapy views serious theism as a mental disorder.

True, I've been talking to a girl I met at driving school who's getting a Psychology degree, she eventually asked about my faith and said Christian Orthodoxy was "too quickly destructive" because it inspired too much fervor and strictness. She's a Kardecist and says God doesn't punish and no eternal life exists outside of reincarnation.

Psychologists are Aristotelian by nature; to them, a happy life can only be achieved through moderation, that includes "moderate beliefs" and, if possible, complete unattachment of the spirtitual world and the Christian concept of God.

>>543497

It's a psychology degree. It tells you how the mind works, not how faith works.

Why can't psychologists understand that?

Go for spiritual counseling with your priest.

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>>543575

Ok fine I'll post. I'm diagnosed with depression and have been going to therapy for 2 years.

Psychology is a useful science. There are patterns of human behavior and pathology that merit study, and solutions exist to many practical woes of self-sabotage people have today. I've been watching a bunch of Jordan Peterson's lectures and they are very edifying.

It's true that there are problems with the discipline. Going to a psychology for homosexual issues is likely to cause you more damage than help; they'll incite you to jump headfirst into your depravity.

Likewise, a priest can be incompetent in non-spiritual matters.

My recommendation? Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's.

Therapy for psychological issues, priests for spiritual ones.

>>543609

I've been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, been to a ward already as well as several therapists. Back then it wasn't my choice given that I was a minor, but in my experience no talk session or medicine ever seemed to have any effect on me like God's truth has.

I stick to my belief that any non-physical issue that one hasn't been dealing with ever since birth is a spiritual one and can be solved with nothing but spiritual exercise, I'm not saying it will be an easy process - it's not - but you can do it.

>>540471

Go to an ayahuasca ceremony, I met god and it cured my depression

>>543617

>any non-physical issue that one hasn't been dealing with ever since birth is a spiritual one and can be solved with nothing but spiritual exercise

This sounds like it could be true, I don't know. I don't want OP to dismiss something that could help him.

What about a Christian psychologist?

>>543609

I'm with depression too. I use anti-depressants to deal with it and don't go full suicidal mode.

I just have to cut the root of my problem now. Do you know what is causing your depression?

>>543650

> Do you know what is causing your depression?

phew… that's a difficult question.

My therapist says I don't love myself and choose to be a "thing" that doesn't really live. She's not wrong. Unfortunate mistakes in my parenting and some bad early experiences gave me a tendency for vicious self-criticism and pessimistic viewpoints. As the years piled on these attitudes shaped me in the wrong way, conditioning me into a pathological state of mind. Without motivation to overcome my flaws time passed me by while I did nothing. Sabotaging my own efforts, insulting myself in my mind for it, comparing myself to everyone who was doing better, it served as a vicious cycle that kept spiraling myself further into misery. Even now with an understanding of what is happening to me, change is very difficult. Layers built over many years can't be destroyed immediately.

The key is to achieve things. Keeping myself well kept, sleeping at the right hours, losing weight and working on launching my business. It's not easy since my demons are always there, but little by little I'm getting better.

>>543655

Just take some ayahuasca or some mushrooms, or you can't take some pharmajewticals instead if you like instead of God's plants

>>540471

>Fellas is it haram to go to a therapist?

No. Though it's interesting you use the word "haram". The oldest psychiatric hospital in the world was built by Muslims in the early 700s with the belief that the mentally ill should be treated with dignity.

>they're all a bunch of communist jews

If your friends can only argue using /pol/ buzzwords, then you need to 1) find better friends and 2) disregard the argument.

>>544320

well put

>>540731

Make sure you don't mention your pathological obsession with Jews though. It may give off a bad impression as to your sanity.