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365377 No.534386

How many folks know that King James (who commissioned the King James Bible and to whom it was dedicated) loved men and had sex with them? At the age of thirteen James fell madly in love with his male cousin Esmé Stuart whom he made Duke of Lennox. James deferred to Esmé to the consternation of his ministers. In 1582 James was kidnapped and forced to issue a proclamation against his lover and send him back to France.

>Later, James fell in love with a poor young Scotsman named Robert Carr. “The king leans on his [Carrʼs] arm, pinches his cheeks, smooths his ruffled garment, and when he looks upon Carr, directs his speech to others.”

—Thomas Howard, Earl of Suffolk, in a letter, 1611

>Carr eventually ended the relationship after which the king expressed his dissatisfaction in a letter to Carr, “I leave out of this reckoning your long creeping back and withdrawing yourself from lying in my chamber, notwithstanding my many hundred times earnest soliciting you to the contrary…Remember that (since I am king) all your being, except your breathing and soul, is from me.” (See The Letters of King James I & VI, ed., G. P. V. Akrigg, Univ. of Calif. Press, 1984. Also see Royal Family, Royal Lovers: King James of England and Scotland, David M. Bergeron, Univ. of Missouri Press, 1991)

—Skip Church

>King Jamesʼ favorite male lovers were the Earl of Somerset and the Duke of Buckingham.

—Ben Edward Akerly, The X-rated Bible

>Jamesʼs sexual orientation was so widely known that Sir Walter Raleigh joked about it in public saying “King Elizabeth” had been succeeded by “Queen James.”

—Catherine D. Bowen, The Lion and the Throne

>“James, aged thirteen, was completely starstruck by these new arrivals. After being brought up by dour Presbyterians and a rough-hewn bunch of nobles, he suddenly appeared from the schoolroom to find a group of charming, well-traveled, well-educated and attractive men. He was fascinated by them, welcoming his release from the Reformist nobilityʼs stranglehold. The attraction of these personable and worldly courtiers was a breath of fresh air, and they quickly played on his sensibilities. These new ‘favorites’ were the key to free him from the shackles of the Kirk and his schoolroom. Within a month of Esméʼs arrival, James had agreed to leave Stirling and to take his place at Holyrood, where Esmé reorganized the Court and his household on the French model.

>There was more to Jamesʼs relationship with these favorites than kicking against his religious upbringing. Their charisma provided a sensual stimulus for him that he was not to enjoy with his interfering and insensitive wife, Anne of Denmark, when they married in 1589. They provided the glamour that he lacked, and there can be little doubt that his homosexuality stemmed from his early attraction to the androgynous Esmé. Well experienced in Court circles in France, Esmé took advantage of the sexual overtures of this vulnerable adolescent, twenty-four years his junior. James would openly clasp him in his arms to kiss him, shocking the Reformist clergy, who saw that Esmé ‘went about to draw the King to carnal lust’, while James showered him with offices and presents. By March 1580, the English ambassador, Bowes, was telling Elizabeth that Esmé was ‘called to be one of the secret counsel, and carryeth the sway in court’. By September ‘few or none will openly withstand anything that he would have forward’.

—Esmé Stuart, 1st Duke Of Lennox

>King James 1 was a known homosexual who murdered his young lovers and victimized countless heretics and women. His cruelty was justified by his “divine right” of kings.

—Otto J. Scott, James the First

What's the ultimatum here on this topic?

365377 No.534387

File: bb1d00fd7c1fb84⋯.jpg (177.01 KB, 728x546, 4:3, king-james-10-728.jpg)

>Although the title page of The King James Bible boasted that it was “newly translated out of the original tongues,” the work was actually a revision of The Bishopʼs Bible of 1568, which was a revision of The Great Bible of 1539, which was itself based on three previous English translations from the early 1500s. So, the men who produced the King James Bible not only inherited some of the errors made by previous English translators, but invented some of their own.

>Desiderius Erasmus was a “Christian humanist” who collected Greek (and Latin) New Testament manuscripts and compared and edited them, verse by verse, selecting what he considered to be the best variant passages, until he had compiled what came to be known as the “textus receptus.” Early English translations of the Bible, like those mentioned above, were based on his “textus receptus.” Erasmus was also a monk whom some historians believe engaged in homosexual activities.

>But without both King James and Erasmus, the most widely touted Bible in Christian history would never have been produced, the KJV (or shall we say, Gay-JV?) Bible.

—Skip Church

>A physical weakling, as an adolescent James had shown himself to be a coward, who liked only to hunt, to read (which he did, prodigiously) and to talk. To protect himself he wore thick quilted doublets, so padded that they provided a kind of armor against any assassin who might attack him with a knife. When he revealed a sexual preference for men, falling in love with his cousin Esmé Stewart and elevating him to a position of authority on the royal council, some of his nobles kidnapped James and held him captive, banishing Stewart and controlling Jamesʼs every move. After nearly a year James escaped, but continued to resent his jailers; after he began to rule on his own behalf, at seventeen, he made it a priority to bring the turbulent Scots nobles under control.

>As he aged James indulged his preference for handsome men, living apart from his wife. His doting fondness was part paternal, part erotic; he called his favorite George Villiers “sweet child and wife” and referred to himself as “your dear dad and husband.” But to his courtiers, the sight of the aging, paunchy, balding monarch, who according to one court observer had a tendency to drool, leaning on his paramours was utterly repellant.

>The first of the kingʼs minions was Robert Carr, Groom of the Bedchamber, who the king elevated to earl of Somerset and appointed Lord Chamberlain. After six years of favors and royal gifts Carr was brought low, accused of murder and sent away from court. The second and greatest royal favorite, the extraordinarily handsome George Villiers, rose from cupbearer to Gentleman of the Bedchamber and ultimately to Earl of Buckingham.

>“I love the Earl of Buckingham more than anyone else,” James announced to his councilors, “and more than you who are here assembled.” He compared his love for the earl to Jesusʼs affection for the “beloved disciple” John. “Jesus Christ did the same,” the king said, “and therefore I cannot be blamed. Christ had his John, and I have my George.”

>With such pronouncements King James seemed to reach a new level of outrage, especially when he compounded his offense, in the view of many, by heaping Buckingham with costly jewels, lands, and lucrative offices.

—Royal Panoply, Brief Lives Of The English Monarchs

Carrolly Erickson, History Book Club

=I'm looking for a serious discussion here.=


aaa7f5 No.534404

File: 812ec8f7e33295d⋯.gif (2.56 MB, 190x200, 19:20, James Rolf Laughing.gif)

>>534387

>Christ had his John, and I have my George.


a93036 No.534412

>>534386

>>534387

King James was married and his wife gave birth 7 times (a few children died). He once led an expedition to rescue her after she had been kidnapped.

Secondly he executed sodomites in the land. In context, a married man with children who commissioned Bible versions and executed sodomites declared to the court that he loved one of his subject's like Christ loved John. Reminder King David kissed his friends, that Uriah slept at King David's door, and John laid his head on Jesus' chest. If you think there's anything wrong with that then you are perverse.

Lastly, all of these things were written by his (CATHOLIC) enemies to slander him. Basically you are a liar.


9ebd86 No.534417

File: 745d9f0dcffb427⋯.jpg (43.85 KB, 850x400, 17:8, 113-67-81.jpg)

>>534386

Still better than you


07286b No.534435

>>534417

This is from a work of satire entitled The Pageant of Popes by John Bale


08c023 No.534437

File: 48ba2e7dcafb254⋯.jpg (21.86 KB, 279x284, 279:284, 1332174536604.jpg)


1c9a8b No.534441

>>534412

>Secondly he executed sodomites in the land. In context, a married man with children who commissioned Bible versions and executed sodomites

But but some Jews claim he was sodomite. That completely refutes everything he did and makes the KJV (which, while not approved for use by the Catholic Church, is the Word of God) somehow bad.

Time for all denominations to stop falling for Jewish tricks, and siding with God's enemies over our brothers in Christ.


e2dae3 No.534458

>>534386

In defense of the KJV Bible, I understand members of the high church and maybe others in British society were heavily involved in producing the King James Version Bible….not only King James.


5c9bfd No.534471

>>534386

Almost certainly false, but if it was true, so what? The KJV clearly has no pro-gay bias. So that being the case, if a bisexual man commissioned it, using the best scholars of the time, and not personally playing a role in the translation, what of it?


6210af No.534590

>>534471

This, also Protestantism doesn't depend on the merits of any man but Jesus Christ.


e2dae3 No.534599

>>534471

>>534590

nicely done, gents…cheerio


d3dbc0 No.534695

Bromances were a huge thing until the Boomers ruined them by associating them with faggotry. There is nothing homosexual about having friends.


d346ed No.534699

File: 7efb239a366d9d5⋯.png (82.97 KB, 500x290, 50:29, 1783845.png)

>>534441

>jews claiming things are gay that were not actually gay.

Hmm … where have we seen that before, I wonder?


f0842b No.534710

File: cd602cb9cbeaf1d⋯.jpg (428.25 KB, 1034x732, 517:366, cd602cb9cbeaf1d1c09a45b918….jpg)

>>534699

Hey Varg whatcha doin


d346ed No.534721

File: 492af27ae5da6ff⋯.jpg (369.75 KB, 1034x650, 517:325, cd602cb9cbeaf1d1c09a45b918….jpg)

File: a3ed2ed87181a80⋯.jpg (470.93 KB, 1104x346, 552:173, what happened.jpg)

>>534710

>"consistent with this (((interpretation)))"

You bring this upon yourself by allying with the easy promises of the Synagogue of Satan. By their fruits you shall know them.


5ae478 No.534724

File: 465c60963418685⋯.gif (1.93 MB, 500x337, 500:337, osaka soap.gif)

>>534435

Proof please.

>>534417

This appears out of context….

>>534386

Is Bergeron a Jew? If my very quick research is to say anything, he definitely married a Jew.

>http://www.encyclopedia.com/arts/educational-magazines/bergeron-david-m-1938-david-moore-bergeron

Also, didn't James only just take part in the edition's creation?

OP, this is how you redtext.


5ae478 No.534726

>>534724

Ha silly me.

Two equal signs WORDS Two equal signs

==See?==


1f6f8c No.534730

>>534710

I am no fan of paganism, but where is the source for the claim that Odin drank semen? The footnote is about mandrake growing under the gallows, and says drinking semen for magical purposes was forbidden.

It seems like the ultimate source for it comes from "Runes, Mandrakes, and Gallows" by Jeannine E. Talley. This is available on Google Books.

https://books.google.com/books?id=gsTW-RedBx8C&pg=PA157

If you read it it's clear the ancient texts don't say anything about Odin drinking semen and she is just speculating.

As Christians we should not be bearing false witness. And also you can have a healthy respect for the mythology of your ancestors while still being a devout Christian; look at J.R.R. Tolkien for example.


74374f No.534736

>>534721

Do you think I care about what the "C"oE does and says? Do you think anybody here does?


e38914 No.534742

>>534730

>bear a healthy respect for pagan fan-fiction

sodomy has always been part and parcel of esoteric paganism/magick tradition


bbd68b No.534750

>>534412

>Lastly, all of these things were written by his (CATHOLIC) enemies to slander him. Basically you are a liar.

No, many of his contemporaries commented on his feminine behavior and his preference for his "favourites" (boy toys) over his own wife.

The Duke of Buckingham even wrote a letter to King James asking if he still loved him, referring to when they shared a bed together.

>>534471

Whether or not the "best scholars of the time" were involved doesn't really matter because of the low quality of the textus receptus. Even the "best scholars" can only make a good translation of a bad manuscript, nothing more.


1f6f8c No.534867

>>534742

Maybe but I'm just saying the sources in that pic do not support the idea that Odin consumed semen. Let's be honest in our criticisms.


1c9a8b No.534891

>>534867

>Let's be honest in our criticisms.

Indeed. And this has been my point all along. But we should certainly not be believing Jewish lies and siding with the synagogue of Satan over anyone.


e38914 No.535019

>>534867

I support the idea that Odin consumed semen.

Why? Because he's not real.


d346ed No.535059

File: 0376860b78ae2c1⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 211.4 KB, 600x457, 600:457, gay-christians.jpg)

>>535019

These people seem pretty real tho ;) .

>Because he's not real, I can bear false witness about non-christians of the past to my "christian"™ heart's content.

Tell me, what denomination allows you such liberties, young one?




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