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UUUU | Freedom Front

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 No.52491

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncFLa9USVnQ

Whether you want to blame corporations or governments the end result is that you are pointing at the smoky mirrors that are obscuring the facts.

Capitalism is neither leftist nor rightist. It is neither multicultural nor nationalist.

Capitalism is a disease. It is the concept that if you can perform an action that gets you more wealth wealth=/=money - wealth =/= [currency+assets] then that is the action you should perform. People that support the state of things as they are like to say that capitalism has no philosophy and that all humans have some level of greed and altruism that capitalism neither exploits nor amplifies. That is another avoidance. The systems that capitalism is based on capitalism itself is not a system but a philosophy that is based on certain systems are dehumanizing.

"Life" is just another attribute of things in motion in capitalism. It has no inherent value. Beauty even, if not profitable, has no value. In capitalism there are no aesthetics, there is no morality, there is not a goodness if it is not as profitable as the lack of these things.

Communism for all it's historical anti capitalist philosophies is just another aspect of capitalism. It is the attempt to compete at all costs with no value on life. We have seen this in all the "not true communisms" of russians, chinese, and every puppet regime that america has used for corporate interests.

Death comes inevitably. Making a profession at funerals or burials and maybe even profiting from it is not in itself wrong. Capitalism makes it so that keeping people undead for a long time but not living is profitable. Worker drones that are cogs in the machine. Obedient to the hierarchy. Choose government lies of democracy or business lies of free competition.

Leftism is dead if you accept money as inherently necessary to trade and economy.

Life is meaningless and a few rich cats will smoke some "fine cigars" until this planet is no longer habitable for humans

 No.52534

Was having a rant part of your plan?


 No.52607

>>52534

this is justice my friend


 No.52624

>>52491

>Banking

>Baneking

>King Bane

What's your beef, too small a guy to get an account at the local savings and loan?


 No.52673


 No.52691

THIS IS A STOAK EXGANCHE DERE'S NO MONEW 4U TO STEAL HERE


 No.52693

>>52691

is that why you're all here?


 No.52695

>>52691

>4u

You're a big stock


 No.52699

>>52693

Lotta loyalty for a hired helmet holder.


 No.52701

TIEM 2 GO MO BILAL


 No.52785

File: 1432287659377.jpg (31.25 KB, 594x491, 594:491, 1431142424225.jpg)

Uh, you don't get to bring stock.


 No.52798

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You are right brother, Capitalism is a desease, and its killing the human race. We are losing the last spark that make us really alive. Those on power were incapable of replacing us by machines, so they are transforming us into the machines.

We must rise the fire, its time to bring this vicious structure to the fucking ground!


 No.52800

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> song related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQnd8dybfGQ

How people look and people stare

Well I don't think that I even care

You rot your life away and what do they give?

You're only killing yourself to live

Killing Yourself To Live!

Killing Yourself To Live!

Just take a look around you, what do you see?

Pain, suffering, and misery

It's not the way the world was planned

It's a picture you don't understand

Killing Yourself To Live!

Killing Yourself To Live!

I'm telling you!

Believe in me!

Nobody else will tell you

Open your eyes!

And see the lies!

Oh yeah!

You think that I'm crazy and baby I know that it's true

Before that you knew it I think that you go crazy too

I don't know if I'm up or down

Well the black and whites are blue and brown

The colors in my life are all different somehow

As vigilanties blew, the beat goes now

Suddenly it's me who's strange

But never had to make the change

Never give your trust away

You'll end up in pain 'till your dying day


 No.52807

>>52798

But that's fucking wrong. Socialism makes you into a machine that works for the government, where individuals are worth nothing. In socialism you don't get a choice concerning where you live, where you work, what you eat, there government assigns you to workplace, a place to live and limits the food supply. Communism is a system where people have no power over the government not their own lives, just cogs on the machine


 No.52810

I'm not advocating for Communism, I just don't belive Capitalism will bring us further as a species, it will actually exterminate us, it is eating every good thing this society has ever produced . As for the choices you say, look more closely to our options (of work, living and even loving), and realize that what we have are ilusions of choice, a huge variety of the same thing.

We are stuck in the cold war mentality: CaptalismXCommunism. This is a false dicotomy, both of them turn the human being into a cog, we must to go beyond economics. As OP puts : Communism for all it's historical anti capitalist philosophies is just another aspect of capitalism. It is the attempt to compete at all costs with no value on life.

This is not a matter of moral,aesthetics or even justice, we need to trancend in order to survive.


 No.52815

Get the fuck off my plane.


 No.52816

>>52815

Not until I crash it, with no survivors!


 No.52847

>>52785

but ive worked hard for it and invested my money!!!


 No.52850

>>52807

>socialism = communism

no


 No.52879

>>52491

Have we started the collapse of civilization?


 No.52881

>>52847

Stocks are not "my money".


 No.52899

>>52879

Yes. The controlled collapses is ongoing.


 No.53046

>>52881

Don't worry, no charge for trading them.


 No.53060

>>52701

GOTTA MOBILIZE RAPIDLY


 No.55184

dr marx?


 No.60359

AT LEAST YOU CAN TALK

WHO ARE YOU


 No.61309


 No.64042

bane?


 No.64063

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>>52491

I'm crashing this economy… WITH NO SURVIVORS!


 No.64064

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>This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by The Weinstein Company.


 No.64066

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 No.64142

>>64064

/pol/ was right again!


 No.64161

>>52800

based Sabs


 No.64162

>>52785

Levi Bronstein, a guy who was buddies with Wall Street jew bankers.

Jacob Schiff who funded the commies.


 No.64199

>>64064

REUPLOAD


 No.64377

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>>52491

>"Inequality for All 2…" This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by The Weinstein Company.

>The Weinstein Company


 No.64417

One common objection to private property is that it is an immoral system because it relies on selfishness. This is wrong. Most people define selfishness as an attitude of caring only for oneself and considering other people's welfare of no importance. The argument for private property does not depend on people having such an attitude; it depends only on different people having different ends and pursuing them. Each person is selfish only in the sense of accepting and following his own perception of reality, his own vision of the good.

This objection is also wrong because it poses false alternatives. Under any institutions, there are essentially only three ways that I can get another person to help me achieve my ends: love, trade, and force.

By love I mean making my end your end. Those who love me wish me to get what I want (except for those who think I am very stupid about what is good for me). So they voluntarily, 'unselfishly', help me. Love is too narrow a word. You might also share my end not because it is my end but because in a particular respect we perceive the good in the same way. You might volunteer to work on my political campaign, not because you love me, but because you think that it would be good if I were elected. Of course, we might share the common ends for entirely different reasons. I might think I was just what the country needed, and you, that I was just what the country deserved.

The second method of cooperation is trade. I agree to help you achieve your end if you help me achieve mine.

The third method is force. You do what I want or I shoot you.

Love—more generally, the sharing of a common end—works well, but only for a limited range of problems. It is difficult to know very many people well enough to love them. Love can provide cooperation on complicated things among very small groups of people, such as families. It also works among large numbers of people for very simple ends—ends so simple that many different people can completely agree on them. But for a complicated end involving a large number of people—producing this book, for instance—love will not work. I cannot expect all the people whose cooperation I need—typesetters, editors, bookstore owners, loggers, pulpmill workers, and a thousand more—to know and love me well enough to want to publish this book for my sake. Nor can I expect them all to agree with my political views closely enough to view the publication of this book as an end in itself. Nor can I expect them all to be people who want to read the book and who therefore are willing to help produce it. I fall back on the second method: trade.

I contribute the time and effort to produce the manuscript. I get, in exchange, a chance to spread my views, a satisfying boost to my ego, and a little money. The people who want to read the book get the book. In exchange, they give money. The publishing firm and its employees, the editors, give the time, effort, and skill necessary to coordinate the rest of us; they get money and reputation. Loggers, printers, and the like give their effort and skill and get money in return. Thousands of people, perhaps millions, cooperate in a single task, each seeking his own ends.

So under private property the first method, love, is used where it is workable. Where it is not, trade is used instead.

The attack on private property as selfish contrasts the second method with the first. It implies that the alternative to 'selfish' trade is 'unselfish' love. But, under private property, love already functions where it can. Nobody is prevented from doing something for free if he wants to. Many people—parents helping their children, volunteer workers in hospitals, scoutmasters—do just that. If, for those things that people are not willing to do for free, trade is replaced by anything, it must be by force. Instead of people being selfish and doing things because they want to, they will be unselfish and do them at the point of a gun.

Is this accusation unfair? The alternative offered by those who deplore selfishness is always government. It is selfish to do something for money, so the slums should be cleaned up by a 'youth corps' staffed via 'universal service'. Translated, that means the job should be done by people who will be put in jail if they do not do it.


 No.74079

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 No.78470

>>52491

capitalism sucks


 No.80715

>>74079

bane?


 No.81481

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>52800

There's nothing wrong with Capitalism

There's nothing wrong with free enterprise

Don't try to make me feel guilty

I'm so tired of hearing you cry

There's nothing wrong with making some profit

If you ask me I'll say it's just fine

There's nothing wrong with wanting to live nice

I'm so tired of hearing you whine

About the revolution

Bringin' down the rich

When was the last time you dug a ditch, baby!

If it ain't one thing

Then it's the other

Any cause that crosses your path

Your heart bleeds for anyone's brother

I've got to tell you you're a pain in the ass

You criticize with plenty of vigor

You rationalize everything that you do

With catchy phrases and heavy quotations

And everybody is crazy but you

You're just a middle class, socialist brat

From a suburban family and you never really had to work

And you tell me that we've got to get back

To the struggling masses (whoever they are)

You talk, talk, talk about suffering and pain

Your mouth is bigger than your entire brain

What the hell do you know about suffering and pain . . .

There's nothing wrong with Capitalism

There's nothing wrong with Capitalism

There's nothing wrong with Capitalism

There's nothing wrong with Capitalism


 No.81482

>>52491

I agree with everything you said but please, stop shitting up our board with your politics. Go away, hothead.


 No.81553

>>52810

WE GOT A LEFTIST HOTHEAD OVER HERE


 No.82510

>>81553

you dont have to be a leftist to laugh at capitalism the cuck meme of the rich fucking your commoner ass all day every day


 No.86644

>>52800

>How people look and people stare

very fit


 No.86665

>>52807

Socialism is not the same as communism. And whether you like it or not, even in capitalism you're nothing more than a machine that works for someone else. No matter who you work for, you are not free.


 No.86676

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>>52624

>BANE

CIA is our true salvation. He will make us fly so good.


 No.93040

>>86676

agreed


 No.100233

$$$


 No.100234

>>86665

>I am not free unless I am allowed to violently acquire other people's voluntarily acquired property because according to some fat smelly jew who never bathed 150 years ago and who was extremely abusive to his servants, exploting the working class is le bad :(((


 No.100235

>>100234

didn't mean to have trip tbh


 No.100532

>>100235

But you did, to let us know that you were genuinely retarded.


 No.102693

prophecy has been spoken


 No.107787

It is time


 No.107791

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>>52800

Dr. Osbourne, I'm NIB


 No.107837

Which candidate should I vote for then? Name me a better candidate than Trump!

Wait, this is about capitalism, not the election…

Which economic system should I support then? Name me a better system than capitalism!

Wait, this is /bane/, not /pol/…

Which plan should I follow then? Name me a better plan than the master plan!


 No.107839

>>52491

>Implying wealth is a fixed variable and that you can't add value to the market

They expect one of you in the welfare brother


 No.107840

>>107837

Accept the flight plan brother, for it lists the secrets to life as well as smee, maimen, dr pavelheer, button lee, juan o'veus, firs twan, tut alk…


 No.107852

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CRASHING THIS STOCK MARKET

WITH NO SURVIVORS


 No.111783

>>107852

uh

you dont get to bring gold


 No.120046


 No.121836

/bane/

TAKE CONTROL

TAKE CONTROL OF YOUR BOARD


 No.129540

down


 No.129566

File: e23f81ea3030633⋯.jpg (106.15 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, libertarians.jpg)

does anyone know the source of this


 No.129578

>>52491

>here let me just choose a fun definition for capitalism for you


 No.129585

File: e2e2a49e14571fd⋯.png (82.44 KB, 646x152, 17:4, 1450935827379.png)

You're an old thread.


 No.130420

>>52491

The bankers love communism as much as capitalism. To them these are just games in their colliseum.


 No.136638


 No.136668

>>111783

They are not my ETFs.


 No.136715

The truth is that the league of shadows was the real enemy all along. Not communism, not capitalism, but a shadowy quasi-religious militaristic sect that promises socialism, delivers anarchy, then kills everyone.


 No.138813

>>136715

reverse interpretation of what actually happened


 No.138818

thats a gay post


 No.138822

Was being 18 and living in your parents middle class house part of your master plan?


 No.138921

>>136715

What about the League of Big Guys?


 No.139293

>>52491

capitalism is neither good nor bad. It is a question of how it is "used" or "applied." like guns. the current implementation is rather bad, though.

Most of the problems inherent in capitalism (ie, the march towards oligarchic authoritarianism) could be fixed by strict limits on the maximum size of corporations and on the size of individual and close family wealth. add in substantial inheritance taxes and hefty "progressive" taxes on corporate income and the result –should– be a "bubble up" pseudo-jeffersonian capitalist system that encourages innovation and small businesses. of course, this would require a capable government that actually obeyed the people and furthered their interests. we do not currently have this, since our country is occupied by oligarchs, globalists, multicultists, etc.

that's the theory anyway. I doubt very much it would be as bad as the current "merger everything" megacorp "blade runner" "soylent green" system.

>>52810

(((capitalism))) vs (((communism)))

who owns/controls the banks, the national banks, and the federal reserve?

who/what where the bolshevics who created the soviet union? who where the party leaders and the commisars?

Protip: they are/were from the same (((tribe)))

Two sides of the same globalist (((coin))), as they say.

>>64417

private property IS civilization. there is more to it than just that, but it is essential. What made us evolve from ape to man? making tools and owning them was certainly an essential part of that transformation.

>>100234

indeed: carl marx was a jew. his father was a talmudic scholar. he was third cousin to the rothschild banking cartel family.

funny how the rothschild banking mafia never made it into his famous criticism of capitalism and banking……..

marxism was never about freeing anyone. it was about the jewish marxists enslaving the gentiles using the useful idiots they roped in with their bullshit rhetoric.

>>136715

(((league of shadows)))


 No.139307

>>139293

I think you're on the right track, but to me it looks like you're falling into the same trap that many others do.

Capitalism and Communism are two sides of the same coin. Both have liberal roots, Capitalism because it's just classical liberalism, and Communism because it's a liberal rebellion against liberalism. It tries to refute it while standing on the same assumptions.

Classical Liberalism, the enlightenment, those were stark, radical breaks from everything that came before then. The Enlightenment flipped the assumptions about human nature, culture and many other things right on their head, because they believed they were better, "more rational" and enlightened than thousands of years of human experience and philosophy. They weren't, and we're paying the price of believing them.


 No.139313

>>139293

We don't have capitalism anymore. We have globalism that operate under the name. The government and banks pick winners and losers. That is not capitalism.

Regulations to industries is not capitalism.

True capitalism is not regulated and is not propped up by the markets.

Capitalism is a system where seller sells to buyer with no regulations and buyer either accepts or does not and goes else where for that service.

And that's the problem, the government has regulated that elsewhere can't be gone to. Only approved items can be sold. That takes power away from the buyer and most would be sellers and gives power to selected sellers only.

An individual can come up with anything but through regulation he is denied his freedom to sell his product and through taxiation he is slaved to work for free for a set period until taxes are paid and that money used to futher his regulations and eventually futher his slavery


 No.139352

>>139313

I don't want industrial waste in my rivers. I want to be able to use the river without it being prohibited by a private party, so no complete privatization. I want all criminals to be prosecuted, so no private bolis. I don't want addictive substances added to my food. I don't want animal cruelty.

Regulation is needed to prevent monopolies.

Don't take this as a 4U government justification, because I don't want my groceries bought for me, and I want a rifle, but some regulation is needed.

Even the most convoluted systems can half-work if the population is 100% white.




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