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File: 5c29ecd10975395⋯.jpg (165.62 KB, 600x599, 600:599, frodo.jpg)

 No.140637

Why Bane didn't just tortured Dr. Pavel instead of making an overcomplicated plan?

Why Bane believed in CIA when he said they expected only 1 of us in the flight plan, but clearly saw he wasn't killing anyone, neither throwing them out of the airplane?

Why they made blood transfusion when tooth/marrow cells are the ones collected for DNA analysis?

Why Bane and Dr. Pavel stayed outside for so long instead of going inside the bigger plane with all the other hired guns?

Why CIA didn't checked the handcuffs or used his own handcuffs/legcuffs as it's default procedure when bringing prisoners to an aircraft?

Why the pilot didn't alerted they were being hijacked and their situation? At least the black-box would have the registry of what happened if the radio wasn't working.

How the plane fuselage is so fragile to allow being penetrated by hand with pins, but so strong to hold all the plane in 2 pins without tearing them apart?

Why surgically explode the tail, making it look like a sabotage, instead of going in by the door? Why the hurry?

The mask makes hiss breathing sounds, why CIA didn't heard it before?

Why a trained CIA would wave his guns inside a plane like a pointing laser? Don't he know about gun safety?

Why CIA cares so much about Bane mask instead of being panicked about the fact that he was caught on purpose?

Why the plane become white in the end?

 No.140638

Why would someone shoot a man, before throwing him out of a plane?


 No.140645

1/2

>Why Bane didn't just tortured Dr. Pavel instead of making an overcomplicated plan?

(see image)

>Why Bane believed in CIA when he said they expected only 1 of us in the flight plan, but clearly saw he wasn't killing anyone, neither throwing them out of the airplane?

Bane knew that people investigating the plane crash outside of the CIA would notice the discrepancy in number of people on board (the flight plan versus the body count). Bane thought that, should CIA survive the crash (Bane knew CIA was an expert in surviving such extreme situations), he would have to leave one of his men behind to stand in for CIA as Bane did not want anyone thinking that, again, if CIA survived, that he could still be alive. This is because Bane knew that CIA's body missing would raise questions that would risk the success of the master plan.

>Why they made blood transfusion when tooth/marrow cells are the ones collected for DNA analysis?

There are four possible explanations:

(1) Bane wanted Pavel confused, afraid, and stressed. A blood transfusion in the middle of what was happening would be a highly stressful situation. This is to assert dominance.

(2) Bane knew Pavel would have questioned how the outside world would think that Pavel was dead. This for-show precaution was not for the official "investigators," who would've known the body was not Pavel's yet reported it so (Pavel wouldn't know this).

(3) Bane is an unreliable narrator and only said that he made precautions to make people think that Pavel was really dead (Nolan interprets Bane's story as a blood transfusion). What many other things are false or otherwise different from reality is unknown. The ridiculousness and complexity of the plan make me think that the true method of abducting Pavel was by use of a highly advanced and top secret aircraft with tractor beam capabilites, which Bane obviously could not speak of to whoever he is telling this part of the story to.

(4) Lazy writing

>Why Bane and Dr. Pavel stayed outside for so long instead of going inside the bigger plane with all the other hired guns?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PErEsNhDmo8

There is a cut for time at about 0:14 to 0:15. Thus, the system takes a bit of time.

>Why CIA didn't checked the handcuffs or used his own handcuffs/legcuffs as it's default procedure when bringing prisoners to an aircraft?

Maybe he did. Bane is just strong enough to break them (remember that they are plastic, not metal).

>Why the pilot didn't alerted they were being hijacked and their situation? At least the black-box would have the registry of what happened if the radio wasn't working.

There are two possible explanations:

(1) The CIA made sure that the plane's instruments were not working properly in that aspect. If they had, then the plan would have not worked (the pilots would have used their better judgement and evade).

(2) The C-130 Hercules had special jamming equipment onboard. Or rather, in corroboration with the 'unreliable narrator' aspect, the C-130 was actually a highly advanced and top secret aircraft with tractor beam capabilites.

>How the plane fuselage is so fragile to allow being penetrated by hand with pins, but so strong to hold all the plane in 2 pins without tearing them apart?

As mentioned twice above, it could be that the small plane either had special fixtures inside to lock into place with the pins (or the outer layer was otherwise purposefully weak) and the paratroopers were utilizing advanced prototype technology. Or the 'unreliable narrator' aspect persists and the small plane was attacked by a highly advanced and top secret aircraft with tractor beam capabilites.


 No.140646

2/2

>Why surgically explode the tail, making it look like a sabotage, instead of going in by the door? Why the hurry?

The official report would not neccisarily make note of this and any unofficial reports would easily be disreguarded as "crazy" or "un-patriotic." Also note that this was a governmental concern, nothing would have been released to the public. Yet again we're not even sure as the audience if Bane is a reliable narrator (he is most likely not), so the claims he is making in his story recounting the events of this scene are possibly exaggerated or otherwise falsified.

>The mask makes hiss breathing sounds, why CIA didn't heard it before?

Bane was holding his breath or at least breathing much quiter. Remember that he has had years of mental training in darkness and solitude, controlling his breathing is something he must be quite good at.

>Why a trained CIA would wave his guns inside a plane like a pointing laser? Don't he know about gun safety?

CIA is often described as an unhinged, crazed character with a bad attitude, a hot head, and little reguard for the life and safety of others, especially those who he had only just met (I highly doubt he was working with the SAD forces very long). It's not outside the realm of his character to behave in this way.

>Why CIA cares so much about Bane mask instead of being panicked about the fact that he was caught on purpose?

CIA's years of pursuing Bane had drawn only revenge on his mind: he would not hesitate to kill him if he got the chance. He was fascinated by the mask, wondering what it was for. If it was his lifeforce, he would know to rip it from him. Though now that he had finally had him, he was overwhelmed with joy and, with his prideful character, boasted to Bane that he had finally 'won.' Bane caught CIA gloating like a villain.

>Why the plane become white in the end?

It was a lighting trick. Reflective surfaces may often appear white in direct (sun)light. The plane being gray and in direct sunlight made it appear a very light gray. It did not physically change color.


 No.140647

File: 3e4838c860c955d⋯.png (15.98 KB, 804x642, 134:107, tdkr script.png)

On the first one I forgot the image.


 No.140668

>>140646

But why smee and maimen turn around and beat up the guys who are still tied up behind them?


 No.140673

>>140668

They were not beating them up, they were untying them. You never see them throw any punches, you only see Smee's arm slip out of stress, making it look like a punch. The reason why we can conclude that they were untying them is because right after this, the two detainees are untied. They untied them because they were offered money by Bane, who knew they couldn't untie themselves.

Also, the guy with the hat is not Meiman (the guy who says "sir" is).


 No.140675

>>140673

But why they not have easily broken hand bindings like Bain?


 No.140676

>>140675

They're the same kind (plastic cuffs). Bane is strong enough to break them (being strong is literally his character). The others are not.


 No.140677

File: 83324ebde7bfd99⋯.png (1.28 MB, 1904x932, 476:233, 1windowbroken.png)

File: ee6371803d4cf76⋯.png (838.32 KB, 1908x950, 954:475, 2windowsbroken.png)

What I want to know is how did this window get broken? The plane scene seems to have all windows in tact but there is in fact a window already broken before Bane's brothers start shooting through the windows. How did it break? Why didn't we hear anything before?


 No.140678

File: afec83971137d79⋯.png (1.26 MB, 1912x949, 1912:949, Window.png)

>>140677

Here's a more clear picture showing the broken window and correcting my spelling mistake Banes*


 No.140683

>>140678

>>140677

Either:

1. It was in a dream. Bane was incepting Dr. Pavel.

2. Bane is an unreliable narrator and the broken windows are a way for Nolan to hint at 'holes' in the story.

3. Movie mistake. The windows are meant to be shot by the paratroopers, they may have used a separate take where the window was already broken.


 No.140684

>>140683

>Implying there could be a continuity error

>In the plane scene

>Nolan's masterpiece

>Which he went through frame by frame, in order to ensure that none of the myriad layers of meaning and subtext were lost

This is getting dangerously close to hothead territory


 No.140688

File: db13f00ad3e300c⋯.jpg (104.22 KB, 1280x715, 256:143, caught.jpg)

I'll raise you another inquiry:

>the flight plan I just filed with the agency lists: Smee, Maimen, Dr. Pavel, Heer, Button Lee, Juan Aviéu.

But then where is he? He never mentions himself being part of the flight plan. Is he a ghost?




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