/bane/ - Baneposting

Big find OP.

Also supported by why Bane wants the fire to rise so badly, as he states at the end of the plane scene.

Nolan's layers of depth is truly amazing.

>>129662

But if the fire rises, wouldn't Bane's head melt then?

This must be even deeper than it seems to be!

I wonder what else Pavelheer knows but isn't telling anyone….

>>129642

It's kind of like Game of Thrones (also starring Aiden Gillen).

All of life is conflict: The Song of Ice and Fire. Artists with true talent such as GRRM and the Nolan siblings have learned this secret of master storytelling. We're all just lucky to live in a time where they can make epics like the Plane Scene.

>>129687

Could this mean Bane (Icehead) has suicidal desires? There is some evidence to support this.

>Calm down, Doctor! Now is not the time for fear. That comes later

This could mean that crashing the Wreckage Brother would have been the end of Bane's story. However, he chickened out in the end, and hated himself for it. Hated himself for fearing death, like Dr. Pavel did. So he chastised Pavel and himself for giving into fear. Saying "That comes later" shows us that Bane is willing to attempt suicide more times.

>You don't fear death. You welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe

In the extended edition, Bane tries to torture the furfag, because the furfag doesn't fear death. Bane envies him deeply for this, and hates himself even further for being surpassed by a furfag, so he lashes out at him by torturing his soul. Being a petty shadow of his former self ever since the botched suicide attempt on the Wreckage Brother, Bane wants the furfag to know what the fear of death is like, to become like Bane himself, spiritually.

All of this also establishes a striking contrast with CIA, who calmly accepted his death in the Wreckage Brother. He lived as well as he could, protecting his men and calling Ittin at least once a day, so he had no regrets. Compared to Bane, CIA is an embodiment of virtue.

The beauty and complexity of Nolan's message moves me to this day.

>>129642

Pavel is calling CIA the icehead. That is why CIA doesn't want any hotheads.

>>129740

CIA is a hothead. Just watch his reaction as he desperately tries to pretend he's in charge. Hotheads try to prevent the fire from rising, which only contains it inside their heads and causes their cranial temperatures to increase. Bane is the exact opposite of this, giving all of his heat to raise the fire, thus Pavel's nickname of Icehead.

>>129696

I assume "in the fire", which Wreckage Brother asks next.

>>129687

Perhaps the ice stands for some kind of prison, a constriction on Bane, much like his mask. Then the fire becomes one of liberation. Indeed, his words later on in the film echo this sentiment.

>>129687

I think Bane's head is naturally very cold. It's possible that his mask is heating his head, and that's why it would be extremely painful if he took it off (he would freeze to death).