395559 No.2248016
We still have plenty of nukes left for Tokyo.
767aa9 No.2248020
767aa9 No.2248021
anyone else play TrackMania Turbo?
61180b No.2248023
>>2248015
I'm those things already
Group therapy sounds gay
d3ab68 No.2248025
A Dutchposter has now posted in this thread.
It will never be the same again.
7df39a No.2248026
boo
>>2248013
Ur a butt tampon cunt
>>2248014
I dont enjoy shooting people.
Also arguments with dismal odds that never end are the most boring and cringe worthy.
Stalemate has never been a victory.
A dumbass cant shoot, but he can wear armour and walk around taking the shots like a dumbass.
514786 No.2248027
>>2248010
No I don't need it
7c0d69 No.2248029
>>2248016
>We still have plenty of nukes left for Tokyo.
This but unironically, fuck tokyo
ad844a No.2248030
>>2248022
these reactions have to be staged. no one would ever expect an arab to throw the bomb.
>>2248023
well then why change, I like you the way you are.
7df39a No.2248031
>>2248029
>
>>2248026
Also where in japan are ya?
And why hate Tokyo? I think Ive heard something about hate towards Tokyo, but I'm still unsure.
c204d0 No.2248032
>>2248030
some of them probably are staged. i wouldn't want to wear arab garb and get shot doing that.
c204d0 No.2248033
395559 No.2248034
>>2248021
For some reason, I thought that was that really shitty Xbox Live Arcade racing game from over a decade ago and now I have nostalgia for that.
61180b No.2248035
>>2248026
Ur a rood prison islander
>>2248027
Yes you do, to be healthy and have energy ^^
>>2248030
There are deeper levels of self-knowledge to be sought still
If you don't think you could possibly reach a deeper level of self-knowledge, ur probably wrong
7c0d69 No.2248036
>>2248026
>Stalemate has never been a victory.
a lot of imageboards arguments are less about convincing the person youre arguing with and more the bystanders
You think politicians argue with their opponents to convince them?
>>2248031
>Also where in japan are ya?
Ehime
>And why hate Tokyo? I think Ive heard something about hate towards Tokyo, but I'm still unsure.
leftist shithole full of gaijin and gooks
especially nakano
ad844a No.2248038
>>2248032
well I don't know how justified a shooting would be, that'd be an interesting court case.
>>2248035
well, yeah, but there are some places that people shouldn't want to go, figuring out if you are capable of cannibalism for instance, you could say you are and honestly believe it, or say you aren't, but you've never actually been that hungry, there are many deeper levels that you shouldn't want to go to.
767aa9 No.2248039
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>>2248034
My first racing game was this
514786 No.2248040
>>2248035
I'll take a multivitamin
3b33f9 No.2248041
ATV offroad fury 2 was the best racing game of all time
61180b No.2248043
>>2248038
Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil, for Satan is my daddy
>>2248040
That's better than nothing ♥
Try to eat more tomorrow than you did today though ^^
767aa9 No.2248044
That one where you crashed to see how much damage you could do was fun too.
964ff3 No.2248045
>>2248044
burnout takedown?
3b33f9 No.2248046
>>2248042
Exploring on free mode late into the night with brother unit
767aa9 No.2248048
>>2248045
burnout, yes.
good times
c204d0 No.2248049
>>2248038
It would be interesting, especially with good lawyers. He is threatening with deadly force... even though he just put the bag down that was expected to be a deadly explosive and ran.
ad844a No.2248050
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>>2248039
I remember playing a snowmobile game like that on the gameboy color, hotwheels on the ps1 was my first though.
964ff3 No.2248051
>>2248046
driving atvs on those dirt courses only hearing the bzzzt of the atv
7df39a No.2248052
>>2248036
Haha yeah thats what I've heard.
Also very Japanese of you.
Got a mate working in Nagoya, is it a shithole?
395559 No.2248053
>>2248039
Mine was probably the SNES Mario Kart.
514786 No.2248054
>>2248043
No
I ate yesterday too
7df39a No.2248055
>>2248036
Ohoh and Iunno man I guess so, but making such a large spectacle makes me see less of both parties most of the time!
3b33f9 No.2248056
>>2248051
Finally making it outside the map then getting thrown through the air back to the center
ad844a No.2248058
>>2248043
I fear no evil for I have 7 rounds of 40s&w and 2 extra mags on my waist.
>>2248049
but what reason is there to expect it to be a bomb? because he was in arab garb, sounds pretty racist to me.
964ff3 No.2248059
>>2248056
yeah
ps2 had some gud stuff.
7c0d69 No.2248060
>>2248052
Kawamura is a cool guy
It's not as bad as some places but it's still quite leftist with a lot of gaijin/zainichi
>>2248057
ad844a No.2248061
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this game was the shit. still remember playing it with my babysitter Kelsie.
395559 No.2248062
I miss the XBLA games because there was some quota of at least one a week so the majority ended up being complete dumpster fires that it was still genuinely fun to play the shitacular demo for.
c204d0 No.2248063
>>2248058
It's all reactionary really, i'm thinking. If someone throws a bag at you then runs, I think the first thing going through your head that you notice is the fact they are running to get away.
Then you would logically wonder what it is that they threw that made them run since they ran as soon as they threw it (cause and effect). Then that's where the problem comes in. The first thing to come to mind is a terrorist type of thing since no one does that kind of thing and they are in some arab garb.
Puppies or good food would be ruled out quick as making sense for the situation.
3b33f9 No.2248064
>>2248059
yus
miss that thing
>>2248060
ooh
is that wa2000?
61180b No.2248065
>>2248054
You should work on getting back to a normal amount of food, silly
>>2248058
Don't use them to try to shoot things inside your head tho
964ff3 No.2248066
>>2248064
mines still right here beside me
514786 No.2248067
>>2248065
I'm working on getting back to a normal amount of weight
3b33f9 No.2248068
>>2248066
That is one thing I didn't take when I moved
may have been a mistake
7df39a No.2248069
>>2248060
I dont understand.
Oh? Whats a zainichi?
Whats the whole climate like with becoming militarised again? Are most Japanese for this now?
61180b No.2248070
>>2248067
Doesn't that go hand-in-hand with getting back to a normal amount of food? I doubt you're overweight :3
7c0d69 No.2248071
>>2248064
It says in the file name "95"
ad844a No.2248072
>>2248063
it's a prank dude, it's a prank!!!
when the free world falls and guns are law against a totalitarian government this shall be my call, as I end those that thought they were the rulers.
>>2248065
guns are for shooting fools and targets, not myself.
61180b No.2248073
61180b No.2248074
>>2248072
What about animals?
3b33f9 No.2248075
>>2248071
Does it?
What does that mean?
964ff3 No.2248076
>>2248068
i think i heard in the news a month ago
they officially stopped supporting it
the age of ps2 is over.
>>2248070
i think imma invest in getting MSG now
61180b No.2248077
>>2248076
Wot does that mean
Is that a stock recommendation Bebop gave u
514786 No.2248078
>>2248070
I am a bit
Depression and no exercise tends to do that
Granted I will admit my weight goal is underweight but I have too many things to worry about to deal with an eating disorder
ad844a No.2248079
>>2248074
the animal shot by man is the foolish of it's species, the big bucks don't go to bait in the day because they know how to avoid hunters.
yes, even the smart ones fall eventually but they are still fools in comparison to man.
964ff3 No.2248080
>>2248077
it's kinda like table salt
3b33f9 No.2248082
>>2248080
This isn't true, tho
They look similar but are very different
7c0d69 No.2248085
>>2248069
Kawamura is the Nagoya mayor, he said this once
>There were regular combative activities, but I believe the Nanjing massacre never happened
>Oh? Whats a zainichi?
Koreans
>Whats the whole climate like with becoming militarised again?
As long as article 9 is in place nothing will change
>Are most Japanese for this now?
Yes
>>2248075
I'm assuming Type 95, or some other gun with 95 in the name.
964ff3 No.2248086
>>2248082
hey chill out
its the way it can be used.
61180b No.2248087
>>2248078
Well you seem to have a strong willpower when it comes to not eating, so just make sure to only eat healthy things and you'll lose weight ^^
>>2248079
>the animal shot by man is the foolish of it's species
Metaphorically speaking, that's a good argument for how I've never done anything wrong
>>2248080
Oh the food thing, I actually thought u meant a Steam game or something
>>2248081
Lmao you actually did the quiz
I guess I'll do it
514786 No.2248088
>>2248087
Hard to eat healthy on 0 money
7df39a No.2248089
3b33f9 No.2248090
>>2248085
huh, interesting
time to go digging
>>2248086
I don't think anyone uses it like table salt, though
It add a savory umami flavor to whatever you're cooking and is actually used in the cooking process. Someone may add MSG to a soup while it's boiling, but won't have a shaker on the table
I am all for using it, but don't expect a salt substitute
ad844a No.2248091
>>2248083
that's about right.
>>2248084
love me some frontier psychiatrist.
>>2248071
>>2248075
>>2248085
it's QBZ 95 fan art.
964ff3 No.2248092
7df39a No.2248094
>>2248085
Ok ok cool, sorri but imma go play vidya, was naice talking tho!
3b33f9 No.2248096
>>2248091
I am on a jazzy kick tonight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLYB9pvww2M
And thanks. Azur Lane needs more that fit this archetype well
There are some for sure, but always can be more.
>>2248093
that or sankaku because I'm a casual
61180b No.2248097
>>2248088
A lot of stuff at the grocery store is pretty cheap, unless you mean literally zero money, in which case how are you getting the things you do eat?
>>2248089
I got Preston too
>>2248092
Idk a lot about nutrition stuff tbh ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
514786 No.2248098
>>2248097
I have maybe a few dollars in change and some non-perishable food items
Also I steal
7c0d69 No.2248099
>>2248096
>that or sankaku because I'm a casual
pixiv translated their site a year ago
964ff3 No.2248100
>>2248090
mine is a shaker
so hah,beat u there
>>2248097
:(
ad844a No.2248101
>>2248096
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xE6nONHbV4
Azure lane, is that what the new jap is called by?
it's all technically fan art because QBZ has never appeared in upotte.
have a cute dictator.
7c0d69 No.2248102
>>2248101
>Azure lane, is that what the new jap is called by?
Azur lane is a gacha game
3b33f9 No.2248104
>>2248099
translated?
>>2248100
huh
interesting
>>2248101
Probably, but I started playing it
the actual gameplay is better, I think
awesome
964ff3 No.2248106
>>2248104
sprinkle it on my cooking
justlike salt
7c0d69 No.2248107
>>2248104
you can search for tags in english and the japanese tags appear
most tags have translations
most features have been translated to english too
514786 No.2248108
>>2248105
You never told me how you'd take me on a date
ad844a No.2248109
>>2248102
oh, the boat girls.
I vote we call you Azure.
>>2248104
I played a boat girl game on my phone for about a month. literally titles battle ship:war girls
it was pretty fun. I just stopped because I don't work in an environment I can get away with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q
72609e No.2248111
>>2248108
Since you're a bit more shy I'd have to go with a "lets go to the beach and go jump in the water while we come back to the camp just to have another drink and maybe hit the weedpen if you're down, then go back to swim. Once the sun is setting we sit back and watch it set. Once it gets later we start up the fire pit and play some nice bossa nova or maybe indie/alternative music while we sneak a couple of shots or bowls while the lifeguards arent looking. Then I'd probably would want to ravage you right then and there but its pretty hard to do so, so I'd drive/uber us to a hotel and yeah dude, it's a wrap."
ad844a No.2248112
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>>2248111
that's really gay soto.
72609e No.2248113
>>2248112
I'd take us to the shooting range then get some beers and watch Upotte!! and down some shots while doing so and once we're super fucking trashed I'd grill us some chicken and steaks and just grub the fuck out then pass tf out
ad844a No.2248114
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>>2248113
sounds like an average day at the range with buds for me.
72609e No.2248115
>>2248114
So that means you'd have fun right?
ad844a No.2248116
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>>2248115
well, yeah, but doesn't mean what you posted before wasn't gay, you're talking to a guy practicing with a mini crossbow in his apartment right now.
b246e1 No.2248117
See at least Soto has an idea of how to have a good time; he has it planned.
He's a smooth motherfucker.
d3ab68 No.2248118
No one but Soto could ever be Soto.
72609e No.2248119
It's not about being gay it's about having a good time
If that makes sense
9380dc No.2248120
idunno why i woke up after a couple hours
and tummy hurts
stupid ass body
ad844a No.2248121
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one of my bolts went through my target and put a hole in my laundry closet door, I patched it with superglue and dryer lint.
>>2248117
I will make plans as people become available to plan things.
>>2248118
well yeah.
>>2248119
well yaeh I get it,, doesn't mean it's not gay.
>>2248120
well maybe it's a side effect of that crown.
where did Cato Go?
b246e1 No.2248122
oh shit Griddles survived the bpocalypse!
b246e1 No.2248123
this is the best pun too...
ad844a No.2248124
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>>2248122
what? I eventually moved over here, after refusing for too long, I come and go a lot, we've talked here before,
>bpocalypse
at least put it in back slashes if you're gonna do that. /b/pocalypse
9380dc No.2248125
>>2248121
idunno, i just got here mate
why would i know
b246e1 No.2248126
>>2248124
convince me that they deserve slashes.
994987 No.2248127
Did the Japanese anon ever respond to me pointing out how Japan practices a form of modern day slavery?
7c0d69 No.2248128
72609e No.2248129
b246e1 No.2248131
>>2248127
I wish I had the gall and patience to craft an image of us in photoshop as two kittens attacking a comedically-enlarged ball of yarn.
994987 No.2248132
Doesn't matter, they're all great.
7c0d69 No.2248134
>>2248130
You
>>2247465
>>2247463
ad844a No.2248135
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>>2248125
well, I'm sorry, also bowsette is the best thing to happen since porn was invented.
>>2248126
it's part of the proper noun that is the name of a place, it would be like saying you're going home but instead calling it om.
>>2248127
hey fool.
>>2248129
I decided it was azure earlier.
b246e1 No.2248136
>>2248132
My favourite Kims are Deal and Shattuck.
9380dc No.2248137
>>2248135
yeah, anybody with eyes can tell
72609e No.2248138
Oh wait, that's Fool
Hi Fool
>>2248135
This is why I hate anons
994987 No.2248140
>>2248134
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt__lHCuH5g
It's slavery and it's disgusting.
>>2248135
Hello, gridless.
>>2248136
Mine are the glorious leaders of Best Korea.
>>2248138
Soto.
ad844a No.2248143
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>>2248137
I have a keen eye for nice things, and that bowsette is a nice thing.
>>2248138
I mean Azure is a pretty cool name right?
also yeah, I assume anyone that posts more than two black and white images in a row is fool though.
>>2248140
got anything interesting worth discussing?
994987 No.2248145
>>2248141
Any person that ruins their nation and people to the point where they are having to eat one another is a-okay in my book.
>>2248143
Guns I suppose.
7c0d69 No.2248147
>>2248140
You should look at Korea's work hours, it's far worse.
>Vice
Give me a credible source
3b33f9 No.2248150
>>2248147
To be fair, that one was back when vice wasn't quite so edgy
b246e1 No.2248151
>>2248145
Yes, to be basically granted a birthright to say fuck the modern world entirely, and do whatever the fuck I wanted? yeah there's no way it's going wrong, lol and the USA is gonna like send its superstars over as diplomats and erryone gonna have a good time :D
994987 No.2248152
Just like Czar Nicholas II. His army was given no food so they resorted to cannibalism in the trenches of WWI. Talk about an ineffective way to fight.
>>2248147
I'm sorry, but just because it doesn't fit with your narrative does not mean it isn't credible. And this isn't just about the hours they are forced to work. This is about the horrendous conditions, the sexual violence perpetrated against them, the refusal to pay them, etc.
ad844a No.2248153
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>>2248144
who is this for?
>>2248145
what about guns?
>>2248149
I see your ducks and raise you sheep.
ad844a No.2248154
>>2248139
you aren't nezi.
994987 No.2248155
>>2248153
I am thinking of getting a .45LC because lol imma cowboy.
b246e1 No.2248156
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>>2248153
>for lesbians
I love minus8
72609e No.2248157
>>2248142
Im well versed in 774 Nanashi
>>2248143
Is that his nanme?
994987 No.2248158
>>2248151
I'm more thinking of the complete and utter lack of remorse or feeling for the people as they starve to death.
b246e1 No.2248160
>>2248158
oh well that's just the lol part they don't talk about, just like america's poverty and gun crime in neighbourhoods that continually lose value and trap owners inside a bubble of vacancy
3b33f9 No.2248162
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>>2248153
It's good when animators keep something perpetually bouncing to the beat
7c0d69 No.2248163
>>2248150
Vice is nearly as bad as the BBC when it comes to Japan
>>2248152
It' not credible because it's a site that has published fake articles about Japan before like Japan's secret shame.
>This is about the horrendous conditions
What horrendous conditions?
>the sexual violence perpetrated against them
You mean when they fuck their boss for a position?
>the refusal to pay them
That's illegal and you will get arrested for refusing to pay workers
>>2248157
名無し『ｎａｎａｓｈｉ』 means anonymous in Japanese
3b33f9 No.2248164
>>2248163
Well, now it is
They used to be pretty big on sending people to be as accurate of the situation as possible
Why BBC?
ad844a No.2248165
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>>2248155
pistol or levergat?
>>2248156
minus8 has always been good.
>>2248157
who fool or azure?
>>2248162
well yeah, things bouncing keep your attention.
squirrel nut zippers are pretty good.
72609e No.2248166
>>2248163
Oh shoot, you learn something new everyday
b246e1 No.2248167
y'all ever follow Serpentza's Chinese vlogs?
3b33f9 No.2248168
>>2248165
Studio Killers are an example of animators who don't do that
yus
He doesn't quite have the cab calloway dance down, tho
b246e1 No.2248169
3b33f9 No.2248170
>>2248167
Yeah, I just wish his titles werent so clicky
and it's a shame the other guy is moving back to the US
3b33f9 No.2248171
7c0d69 No.2248172
>>2248164
BBC published a fake story about a rape in Japan and many other media articles picked it up.
Plus the UK has 50x the rape and the Rotherham case but the BBC didn't seem to care much about it.
Also this
>>2248166
It's interesting how he went from Guro to a relatively tame femdom manga that's quite popular
994987 No.2248173
>>2248160
Yes, but that is because of lizard people controlling the markets and forcing people into mass brainwashing from the age of four or five.
>>2248163
No, an employee fucking an employer under threat of deportation and worse is not "gaining a position." There is exactly a refusal to pay, hell, in just the preview for the clip a female talks about how her employer withheld 12,500 either dollars or yen, I can't remember which. Horrendous conditions like being forced into small cramped unheated quarters in the freezing cold, being fed very little food once a day, and being forced to work in life threatening situations.
And you can't just say the articles are fake. Fake news is the meme that people try and use when they disagree with the facts.
>>2248165
Peestol so I can go pew pew pew.
3b33f9 No.2248174
>>2248172
That's because nobody else cares about a rape in the UK
it's like a gang shooting in the US
b246e1 No.2248175
>>2248170
at least we got a first-hand rundown on the quality of life, the money put into real estate and infrastructure is nothing like here at all; everything is temporary and every chinese doesn't care about repair or reconditioning, they are born in a new age of throw-away.
They don't maintain anything, it's not worth it. Next thing will come along.
3b33f9 No.2248176
>>2248172
Look at the dates of those two tweets
3b33f9 No.2248178
>>2248175
Sounds like how the US was with railroads in the later 1800s
ad844a No.2248179
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>>2248169
I like studio killers, they pretty cute.
and gay.
>>2248173
well it should shoot pretty well, my brother got a taurus raging judge and because of it's weight even with 454 casual its softer in the hand than his j frame 357.
>>2248172
funny how you don't trust the bbc but you linked me a bunch of 911 conspiracy stuff a few weeks ago from definitely less credible sources.
6809d9 No.2248180
>>2248172
I mean how much can you believe in credibility of a news outlet that promotes pedophilia ?
Britain is far far more fucked up.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/mar/12/1000-children-victims-worst-uk-abuse-ring-telford
994987 No.2248181
>>2248179
Yeah, and I do so love my single actions.
3b33f9 No.2248182
>>2248179
I cant tell if I don't like his voice or the way he edited it
He should use a clearer mic or one that is not so damn warm
b246e1 No.2248183
>>2248178
Oh, yeah.. that chinese were throw-away lol
72609e No.2248184
>>2248172
people love a change of pace
7c0d69 No.2248185
>>2248173
>under threat of deportation
I don't care about illegals
>a female talks about how her employer withheld 12,500 either dollars or yen
Why not report their boss?
He's committing a crime if it is true.
>being fed very little food once a day
Since when is it the boss' job to buy them food?
>Horrendous conditions like being forced into small cramped unheated quarters in the freezing cold
Never heard of working conditions like this at all.
>and being forced to work in life threatening situations
What sort of life threatening situations are you forced to work?
>And you can't just say the articles are fake
If the news site is known to spread false stories I will be skeptical of them
Why is there no Japanese story on it?
>>2248174
>That's because nobody else cares about a rape in the UK
Still a bias, look at the image for example.
>>2248176
So in 6 months they changed their opinion?
No they just have a bias against Japan.
>>2248179
?
>>2248180
and i cant find a bbc article on that story
3b33f9 No.2248186
>>2248183
Like the chinese workers are today
But we also did super over-produce railways
ad844a No.2248188
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>>2248181
get what you can afford, I'm thinking of picking up my own raging judge though I really like the rossi circuit judge revolving rifle to be honest.
>>2248182
probably just his voice I love me some ken ashcorp though.
>>2248185
you even talked about it yourself when we were discussing the Meiji restoration
3b33f9 No.2248189
>>2248185
the later one is also an op-ed
Opinion pieces don't always represent the "views" of the paper, that's kind-of the point
Everyone has been condemning the priests for child abuse. That is along the same line and they aren't complaining about being unfairly targeted
b246e1 No.2248190
>>2248186
Western railways are a joke now. They are rusting, outdated, never to be replaced with high-speed transit, unfortunately.
Perhaps California, first.
7c0d69 No.2248191
>>2248188
I don't know what the Meiji restoration article has to do with 9/11
>>2248189
>Opinion pieces don't always represent the "views" of the paper, that's kind-of the point
They still choose to publish it, what about the fake stories they have published?
>Everyone has been condemning the priests for child abuse. That is along the same line and they aren't complaining about being unfairly targeted
No because child rape is illegal and immoral, anime (a normal anime not even a weird one) isn't.
994987 No.2248192
>>2248185
>i don't care about illegals
They are there legally and treated as slaves.
>report their boss
They did and were deported, nothing happened to the boss.
>since when is it...
Since they are supposed to be given room and board as being a foreigner in the country legally as part of an "internship" program.
>never heard of working condition...
You obviously haven't heard of a lot.
>what sort of...
Being forced to go hundreds and hundreds of feet from shore to dig clams on a mudflat during low tide and being forced to stay out there for longer than is considered safe, until the tide comes back in and drowns everyone.
>false stories
Again, just because you don't like what they're saying does not mean it is false.
>why is there no Japanese story...
There is a big group in Japan fighting for better treatment of these people and Japan refuses to acknowledge when they are doing wrong.
>>2248188
Imma get a Heritage Big Bore. Five hundo, give or take.
b246e1 No.2248193
>>2248188
( I love that song btw also ashcorp fan )
3b33f9 No.2248195
>>2248188
There is also something weird going on with the mic/post-processing, trust me.
It sounds like they also put some artificial crackling in there which is eh. The sharp S's need to come down.
He sings with so much inflection in his voice that he needs something that will actually do it justice, but idk what that would be
>>2248190
the US is way too large for it to be practical compared to flying
>>2248191
What fake stories?
Every newspaper has an opinion section, the only reason they wouldn't publish something is if it is actually raunchy.
Did you actually watch the documentary? Even in the image it isn't completely about anime.
6809d9 No.2248198
>>2248192
I highly doubt Japan has this bad working conditions and forces people to slave away.
Besides if they are in the country illegally, they deserve nothing at all but to be deported. No human rights should be thought about here because you can't be immoral and decide to do something illegal and they cry about your rights... Its stupid. Even if there is exploitation of workers I doubt its in as bad conditions as some 3rd world countries.
ad844a No.2248199
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>>2248191
the one about the meiji restoration and the people in power went on to talk conspiracies about 9/11 did you not read the whole article?
>>2248192
I got a 6shot rough rider 22lr, it's pretty fun, me and my brother use them for rodent control with bird shot out at my dads property, thinking about getting the new 9 shot version, the big bore would be a fun toy.
>>2248195
I like the crackle, and on the rocks is actually my favorite song by ken. this song is about touching you.
767aa9 No.2248201
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this is kinda relaxing to listen to
994987 No.2248202
>>2248198
They are there legally as part of a government sponsored "internship" program for migrant work. They are treated like animals.
>>2248199
I got a Rough Rider pistol too. It is fun.
7c0d69 No.2248204
>>2248192
>They are there legally and treated as slaves.
Why would they be deported?
>They did and were deported, nothing happened to the boss.
It's illegal to do that and if they were legal they wouldn't be deported, people have been arrested for withholding payments
>Since they are supposed to be given room and board as being a foreigner in the country legally as part of an "internship" program.
They're meant to buy food with their salary
>You obviously haven't heard of a lot.
I'm sure I've heard more than someone who watched a Vice video.
>
Being forced to go hundreds and hundreds of feet from shore to dig clams on a mudflat during low tide and being forced to stay out there for longer than is considered safe, until the tide comes back in and drowns everyone.
That's illegal, they should speak up the boss would be arrested.
>There is a big group in Japan fighting for better treatment of these people and Japan refuses to acknowledge when they are doing wrong.
Why is there not a single news story on this in Japan?
>>2248195
>What fake stories?
They published a story about a false rape accusation.
>Did you actually watch the documentary? Even in the image it isn't completely about anime.
Why would I watch that bullshit?
We have one of the lowest rape and child abuse rates in the world, we're doing something right, the UK has 20x the sexual child abuse rate as us, maybe they should focus on their own country
>>2248199
>the one about the meiji restoration and the people in power went on to talk conspiracies about 9/11 did you not read the whole article?
It's been a longtime but I don't remember that part of it, I never said it was a good source for Americans stories but it was correct about the Meiji restoration, Thomas Glover being an agent of the Rothschilds isn't even a conspiracy you can find that out on Wikipedia.
3b33f9 No.2248205
>>2248199
The crackle is ok, but could have been implemented better
and I like Ken plenty, I went through that phase a few years ago, but I am a hipster sound editor now so things like that bug me more than the used to
If anything, he needs to do something about the sharp S's
>>2248201
Goddamnit, I miss the old cartoon network
6809d9 No.2248206
>>2248202
Which government sponsored that ? Japan ?
3b33f9 No.2248207
>>2248204
and all of US media whent crazy over the weekend, or was it Monday, over a false report of the deputy attorney general quitting or being fired, so what?
and where do you get your analytics?
767aa9 No.2248209
>>2248205
I was looking for a specific one for a 90s kid obscure reference
ad844a No.2248210
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>>2248200
I keep intending on linking you, but I keep forgetting, I am drinkin, so that's my excuse.
>>2248202
I got the long barrel verson and one for my brother last black friday for $100 a piece, they're fun and I still need to order a few more cylinders for them and some magnum cylinders too, I also got a 44 navy colt, it's pretty cool.
>>2248204
just saying how can we trust your sources if you didn't confirm them.
61180b No.2248211
>>2248098
Idk if you're still here right now but add me on Discord
Daiakuma#8938
7c0d69 No.2248212
>>2248207
>and all of US media whent crazy over the weekend, or was it Monday, over a false report of the deputy attorney general quitting or being fired, so what?
and i wouldnt trust the media who originally reported on it
>analytics
comes from the UN
https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/Publications/abstract.aspx?ID=179581
Unrelated but interesting
>>2248210
>just saying how can we trust your sources if you didn't confirm them.
About the Meiji restoration?
They're correct about that, you can find the ties to the Rothschilds on Glover's wikipedias page it isn't a conspiracy he had ties to them nor that they benefited from the Meiji restoration (they own 20-40% of our central bank)
994987 No.2248213
>>2248204
>deported
Because they spoke out against their treatment.
>it's illegal
Obviously not. Or obviously it doesn't matter to the Japanese.
>they're meant
No, they are explicitly guaranteed room and board as part of their employment.
>i've heard of more than someone
Oh, so you've heard that there is footage of Korean women being raped by Japanese soldiers during WWII?
>they should speak up
But they can't because they're dead. And nothing happened to the boss.
>why is there...
Probably because the Japanese are all Nationalistic and refuse to say a bad thing about their nation.
>>2248206
Yes, the Japanese government sponsors it.
>>2248210
I need to get myself a magnum cylinder for mine, but Heritage doesn't produce them anymore. So you have to get them from a buyer who has one.
3b33f9 No.2248214
>>2248212
They all "originally reported on it" and had live reporting of a car in the white house driveway
Need proof of that
>1999
too old to be relevant
6809d9 No.2248215
>>2248213
I'd literally go apply for that "internship" just to see Japan and if conditions are as bad as you state they are.
ad844a No.2248216
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>>2248205
I like his sharp S's, they're his style.
>>2248201
I remember like 90% of these.
>>2248212
well, yeah, most informed americans know that.
>>2248213
they still produce them, I have an order slip with my gun says they're $30 a pop.
and they still send them with their new production guns.
b246e1 No.2248217
>>2248210
I fucking love Mystery Skulls too dog.
53cf4f No.2248218
994987 No.2248219
>>2248215
You're a Croat. You are not allowed.
>>2248216
I bought a brand new gun that didn't come with. I tried to order one online and it said unavailable.
3b33f9 No.2248220
>>2248209
Explain it to me
>>2248216
They're fine until you have a headset that actually handles those those high tones well and it blasts your ears out
6809d9 No.2248221
>>2248218
I was just about to ask where are you! доброе утро
Did you get your revenge for the broken tree branch?
53cf4f No.2248222
>>2248221
> Did you get your revenge for the broken tree branch?
Nope, in friday i will buy pepper spray and will try to make gas-grenade from it
ad844a No.2248223
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>>2248217
yeah, we got a lot of music likes in common, I thought we figured this out a while ago.
>>2248219
I think they only do them mail order with that slip, they got shit taste, but maybe, I mail you my brothers slip and you can order your extra cylinders.
>>2248220
like my kraken usb headphones, I still love it.
7c0d69 No.2248224
>>2248213
>Because they spoke out against their treatment.
Why would they be deported for that?
>it doesn't matter to the Japanese.
It does because people have been arrested for it
>No, they are explicitly guaranteed room and board as part of their employment.
And what part of that is food?
>Oh, so you've heard that there is footage of Korean women being raped by Japanese soldiers during WWII?
It'd be nice to see this footage.
Individual rapes happened sure, Americans did the same,, Japan isn't responsible for a few soldiers actions.
Most of the war crimes in the Phillipines were done by Koreans.
>But they can't because they're dead.
And no one noticed or complained, seems unlikely
>Probably because the Japanese are all Nationalistic and refuse to say a bad thing about their nation.
I say bad things about Tokyo, our foreign affair minister etc
If you went to 2ch/futaba you would see a complaint eventually.
>too old to be relevant
It's still relevant, our sexual offences have gone down with an increase in pornography, UK's has gone up with a decrease in pornography.
>Need proof of that
I don't know how to view the UNODC's stats but they're from there.
i need to go now, ill be back in an hour or two
ad844a No.2248225
my god, I want this headset.
ad844a No.2248227
>>2248222
broken tree branch gas grenades, what?
ad844a No.2248228
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>>2248226
nice, have an opening to one of my most favorite animes's.
6809d9 No.2248229
>>2248222
Checked. Good luck catching them. Would be cool to see that filmed ))
3b33f9 No.2248230
>>2248223
>USB headset
ehhh
6809d9 No.2248231
>>2248223
I hate my Krakens, falling apart as chink bullshit they are. I'm getting Sennheiser this time.
994987 No.2248234
>>2248224
>why would they be deported
Because they caused a person doing some shady shit that had power over them trouble.
>it does
Obviously not.
>what part of that is food?
The board part.
>it'd be nice to see this footage
Gross. I'm not into rape.
>rapes happened... Americans did the same
Yes, I'm aware. I even pointed out to Smiles and Tscuchi that there was never a single trial for the thousands of war crimes committed by the Allies, which I found disgusting.
>no one noticed or complained
A lot of people DID notice though and a lot of people DID complain, but nothing happened except the Japanese government was like, "we'll take a look."
>you would see a complaint eventually
Eventually is the key word there.
I don't know what the rest of this is referring to.
53cf4f No.2248235
>>2248227
One fucking gook broke my tree, and i'm gonna make gas grenade to defend my tree in the next time
>>2248229
I will try to film that
6809d9 No.2248236
>>2248233
T-thanks...I guess.
ad844a No.2248237
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>>2248230
what's wrong with USB?
>>2248231
never had an issue with mine, my skull candy foam, disintegrated after 2 years and the cost of new ones is half the cost of a new set so I trashed em.
>>2248232
well, that was very instrumental.
>>2248235
break him with a gun you silly,
>he was damaging my property and when I confronted him he turned aggressive toward me I had to defend myself.
9380dc No.2248238
Razer Man O' War was one of the worst headsets I've ever used
I have a hard time imagining the Kraken being any better as it costs even less
piece of shit plastic garbage, terrible sound
mic was shit
fuck that headset
53cf4f No.2248240
>>2248237
I don't have gun
b246e1 No.2248241
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84d1ed No.2248244
Gotta love maintainers not pulling a 2 year old version of a mobile client on fdroid
b246e1 No.2248245
>>2248237
you realize it was an aBe series..
6809d9 No.2248246
>>2248238
All you say is true. My earbuds are deformed, foam is all fucked up. Sound doesn't work good because of stupid volume control box on cable... plastic piece of shit
84d1ed No.2248247
>>2248243
Sorry, see >>2248244
Was having trouble posting
84d1ed No.2248248
>>2248238
Using the trust cans and mod mic now?
d617fc No.2248249
>>2248247
I didn't actually think you were asking for me, I'm just doing the maymay
84d1ed No.2248250
>>2248249
I know, but i explained out of courtesy
ad844a No.2248252
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>>2248240
use bear mace, I'll mail you a can if you can't find it there.
>>2248242
hey QT.
>>2248245
I never said instrumental was bad did I?
>>2248249
hey.
84d1ed No.2248253
ad844a No.2248255
>>2248253
just staying up late watching the hours fly by, like it was an hour ago like 10 minutes ago,
9380dc No.2248256
>>2248248
HD600 w/ Schiit Stack and Blue mic
84d1ed No.2248257
>>2248255
Killing time eh? You still doing the military thing?
3b33f9 No.2248258
>>2248236
Why would the FB part stay there since 2013?
That's just a waste
>>2248237
You have to stuff both and amp and a DAC somewhere on the cable or in the headset. If you have a relatively modern motherboard, you probably have a decent DAC and amp built in that goes out to your 1/8th plug. Because neither are stuffed into a headset, are the connections are further apart and should have less noise. The best option is to get an external pair because those are really optimized for the best sound coming out of USB.
USP headsets are really only good if your motherboard is particularly cheap.
Schiit makes good affordable shit, and the best option unless you are going super deep is the magni+modi. I just have the magni because my motherboard's DAC is fine, but my headset needs an amp to get decent volume.
53cf4f No.2248259
>>2248252
I'm gonna buy this little guy first
84d1ed No.2248261
>>2248256
Aah, a more pro setup. Tummy still giving you hell?
3b33f9 No.2248262
>>2248256
Hey, my buddy has the same setup with the Vali
How does the bass sound on those?
9380dc No.2248264
>>2248261
fell asleep at 10pm or so after sleep deprived
woke up 2 hours later for literally no reason??
tummy started hurting
feel dead and might as well play games since i can't sleep
ad844a No.2248266
>>2248257
hell no, I been out for almost 2 years, going to school for manufacturing now and trying to get a job in a cnc shop.
>>2248258
but these sound fine to me, and I can't break this connector on my tablet like I have broke so many 1/8th in connectors on laptops before, if I ever fix my tablet that is, besides I got a sonos play5 for my pc speakers.
>>2248259
get this instead.
84d1ed No.2248267
>>2248264
You didnt drink before, did you?
Welp, best vidya for a bit then get a lay in. You still need sleep after all.
84d1ed No.2248268
>>2248266
Nice. When will you have that wrapped up?
6809d9 No.2248269
ad844a No.2248270
>>2248268
pm me and we'll talk.
53cf4f No.2248271
>>2248266
Too expensive and useless for me
>>2248269
Nah, i live in the apartment, not in private house
84d1ed No.2248274
>>2248270
I would man, but im on my new phone and i havent shoved steam on it yet.
ad844a No.2248275
>>2248268
oh, nevermind, I got like a year left on this associates, then I plan to turn it into a bachelors in engineering, and maybe carry it forward to a doctorate in something.
>>2248271
but it is not useless, it's like $30.
ad844a No.2248276
>>2248274
yeah, I thought you were hutspa, I was talking about mailing him a can of bear mace.
84d1ed No.2248279
>>2248275
Shooting for the top eh? This all at the same school, or you planning on up and moving for uni?
84d1ed No.2248280
53cf4f No.2248281
>>2248275
Thing what i gonna buy, cost 5$
53cf4f No.2248282
ad844a No.2248284
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>>2248279
yeah, I'm at a local college that is like number one in the state in the field Im going into at finding students jobs, after I finish the associates I plan to move up to University of michigan.
>>2248281
I honestly want 2 cans of bear mace to keep in the door cupholders in my truck on each side for those times nigs get upity when I have to drive through the ghetto
>>2248282
I love me some ale storm.
9380dc No.2248285
>>2248262
Not a lot of bass tbh, it's a more balanced headphone with a lot of clarity. There is some but it's not enough if you like bass.
My ATH-M50x has more bass tbh
but they aren't nearly as good
>>2248267
drink? water or alcohol? i don't alcohol at all
yeah I will try to sleep at 4am or so when my body is used to sleeping unfortunately
but I get the feeling i won't sleep at all
84d1ed No.2248289
>>2248284
Not bad. I take it at any point during this you can check out of education and land a job?
>>2248285
Shit, of course you dont. I feel daft now.
Might be for the best. If i were you id try slowly shifting your bed time back with sleeping pills. Long periods awake and irregular sleeping are fucking terrible for your health.
9380dc No.2248290
>>2248289
Yeah I might need sleeping aid
I haven't had genuine insomnia like this for a loooooooooooooooooong time
fuck
I was sleeping so well before and after moving out
ad844a No.2248292
>>2248289
well yeah, I'm looking for a job now, gotta get that $18 on hour paycheck, and still have time for school, most places will allow scheduling for school, and some offer internships, apprenticeships, and the such.
84d1ed No.2248293
Woo, 8am traffic jams
>>2248290
Stressed about something?
84d1ed No.2248294
>>2248292
Nice. Aside from ditching IT thats the main thing id do differently if i could ho back 5 years to when i was off to uni, get a job in industry concurrent to my education.
9380dc No.2248297
>>2248293
ah yeah school deadlines
full time classes are a lot for me since I've never successfully been able to do it before with the depression
I think this will be the first full time load where I'll pass all my classes
I just need to get used to it and plan things better
teachers are making it hard though because they don't put the due dates or assignments online or talk about them in class
you can only find them on the syllabus and sometimes there's no word count or other info
eh, will start managing time better now
ad844a No.2248298
>>2248294
I keep trying, but all the places that looked promising so far have fallen through.
53cf4f No.2248299
>>2248284
> when I have to drive through the ghetto
It is so dangerous?
84d1ed No.2248300
>>2248297
Doit, but dont let this shit kill your health. Life is a thing to be enjoyed, not wished past for the sake of a slip of paper. I learned that lesson at the cost of half a decade of my life, dont repeat my mistake.
>>2248298
Just gotta keep at it then i suppose. Eventually youll get something.
9380dc No.2248301
>>2248300
nah I'm fine, it was just a ton of deadlines this sunday/monday/tuesday and I had trouble finding out what was due cause my teachers are actually low IQ
I'll adjust easily
53cf4f No.2248302
Сьогодні день народження у Пороха
84d1ed No.2248303
>>2248301
Well pay close attention to it, wont you? Bad habits set in easily and soon become normal to you. There is a point at which things stop being worth their cost, even education.
6809d9 No.2248304
>>2248302
Его кличка порох?
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9380dc No.2248308
>>2248303
I have to finish my education though. To prove to myself that I am truly capable of a work ethic, self-discipline, and finishing something.
ad844a No.2248309
>>2248299
I've had people try to walk up on me before, and I ran a red light to avoid them, and another time stopping at a liquor store I got there and sat in my truck for a few minutes, someone tried to walk up on it and saw that I was still in my truck and watching them in the mirror, they put their hands up and walked away, most times I have my gun, but I would rather mace someone, than shoot them or run them over.
>>2248300
yeah, I keep at it, and I'll get it right.
84d1ed No.2248310
>>2248308
Do yourself a favour, knock that nonsense out of your head. Its what kept me chasing degree for 4 years when i should have dropped out.
Tata for now, lesson time.
53cf4f No.2248311
>>2248309
Fun place, nothing to say
9380dc No.2248312
>>2248310
I mean...I've never even had a fair shot at TRYING to get a degree though because of the depression.
I might as well try first instead of just assuming it's not going to work.
And if it doesn't, I'll figure something out. I'm not worried about making a lot of money.
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9380dc No.2248314
>>2248313
?
what's nonsense?
964ff3 No.2248315
>>2248314
he said the word, not me
61180b No.2248316
61180b No.2248317
Nezi said the word, not me
9380dc No.2248318
>>2248315
oh you're doing that repeating thing again...
>>2248317
hi erio
7c0d69 No.2248319
>>2248234
>Because they caused a person doing some shady shit that had power over them trouble.
So the government would deport them?
Seems unlikely.
>Obviously not.
So why bother arresting people for it?
>The board part.
My English isn't perfect but I don't think board means food, correct me if I am wrong
>Gross. I'm not into rape.
So do you have footage of it or not?
Probably not because most "comfort" women were prostitutes, even Korean newspaper admit that.
>Yes, I'm aware. I even pointed out to Smiles and Tscuchi that there was never a single trial for the thousands of war crimes committed by the Allies, which I found disgusting.
I agree.
>A lot of people DID notice though and a lot of people DID complain, but nothing happened except the Japanese government was like, "we'll take a look."
Well I hope he got punished, but really it'sthe people's fault for working a dumb job, if I paid you $500 to jump off a cliff into water and you died who's fault is that?
>Eventually is the key word there.
What's the point?
You think people go on 2ch to bitch about their job?
It comes up but people don't say it often because it's a boring discussion usually
>I don't know what the rest of this is referring to.
Meant to quote Cato
>>2248316
ニガ
61180b No.2248321
Real niggas do what they wanna do, bitch niggas do what they can
7c0d69 No.2248322
>>2248320
thats ironic right
9380dc No.2248323
>>2248320
eh, sub optimal. you?
61180b No.2248324
>>2248322
In what way exactly do u mean
Idk if you know but black people call each other "nigga"; they don't consider it offensive when they do it
61180b No.2248325
>>2248323
What's wrong gurl
Also why have u been awake so late every night
I'm good
7c0d69 No.2248326
>>2248324
i mean the video
61180b No.2248327
Nezi's daddy doesn't put him to bed properly
Neglectful!
61180b No.2248328
>>2248326
He's just proud of being a nigga
9380dc No.2248329
>>2248325
ah school just stressing me out
and food
>>2248327
you can put the nezi to bed but you can't make the nezi stay asleep
61180b No.2248330
>>2248329
Why tho
And food is good
Maybe I should suggest to him that he turn the internet off after a certain time :)
9380dc No.2248331
>>2248330
I mean that wouldn't help me sleep
I've tried reading and giving up computer entirely before
I'd finish a book at 8am and be like ffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
eh teachers just being dumb
I don't feel like the material is very hard, but the teachers are inconsistent and often difficult with grading
at least for my 2 hard classes, the others are ez pz
994987 No.2248332
>>2248319
>so the government... unlikely
How unlikely is it if he government did exactly that?
>why bother
Exactly, they don't arrest people for it.
>i don't think board means...
It does. Room and board means a room and meals.
>so you don't have footage?
Yes. I personally have the footage. I am the one that found it because I have access to the film archives of the Japanese military.
>korean newspapers...
Except there is a big thing going on in Korea about Japanese war crimes including the rape of Korean women. Yes, we get it, Japan refuses to acknowledge their war crimes. But that doesn't mean that doesn't happen.
>it's their fault
No. It's not a slave's fault they are enslaved.
>people don't say it usually
Or ever it seems. Japanese are too fiercely nationalistic to complain about their country.
7c0d69 No.2248333
>>2248332
assuming they arent illegals, very
>Exactly, they don't arrest people for it.
they do
>It does. Room and board means a room and meals.
Well what word did they use in Japanese?
>Yes. I personally have the footage. I am the one that found it because I have access to the film archives of the Japanese military.
Share it if you have proof
>Except there is a big thing going on in Korea about Japanese war crimes including the rape of Korean wome
Yes koreans have been brainwashed into hating Japan, ive explained it before but I can explain again
>No. It's not a slave's fault they are enslaved.
Theyre not slaves, if they so they wont get whipped
>Or ever it seems. Japanese are too fiercely nationalistic to complain about their country.
Yeah because ive never complained about things?
994987 No.2248334
>>2248333
>very
Except the government routinely does nothing and ignores their horrendous conditions.
>they do
But they don't, which is a problem.
>what word did they use in Japanese
I don't speak Japanese, however the translators, and the people who ARE fighting for these people state that they are supposed to be fed and aren't.
>share if you have proof
Here is a story about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDBNPLS7Psc
>Koreans have been brainwashed
Except, no, they aren't brainwashed, they just greatly dislike a nation that committed horrendous crimes against them and then outright refuses to admit it happened.
>if so they won't get whipped
But there is a ton of violence perpetrated against them with absolute impunity.
>i've never complained...
Oh, you complained about Tokyo, saying it's not actually Japan. That's probably a regional thing though. I bet you don't consider the Natives up in the north of your country to be Japanese either.
395294 No.2248335
>koreans have been brainwashed into hating Japan
When all of your neighbors hate you, it's probably not due to cabalistic plots but that you're a shitty neighbor.
994987 No.2248336
7c0d69 No.2248337
>>2248334
>Except the government routinely does nothing and ignores their horrendous conditions.
I know plenty of cases where people have been arrested for illegal workign conditions and not paying.
>I don't speak Japanese, however the translators, and the people who ARE fighting for these people state that they are supposed to be fed and aren't.
Could be shit translators, or they could be lying.
>>2248334
>Here is a story about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDBNPLS7Psc
I want the footage not a story
>But there is a ton of violence perpetrated against them with absolute impunity.
Any evidence of that?
I doubt it
>Except, no, they aren't brainwashed, they just greatly dislike a nation that committed horrendous crimes against them and then outright refuses to admit it happened.
They are, Japan made Korea first world
>Oh, you complained about Tokyo, saying it's not actually Japan. That's probably a regional thing though. I bet you don't consider the Natives up in the north of your country to be Japanese either.
The Ainu?
>>2248335
Koreans are taught false propaganda about Japan, China is full of propaganda we all know that
We have good relations with Taiwan
395294 No.2248338
>>2248337
Let me get this straight:
US centered academics document war crimes committed against the Koreans, Manchurians, Chinese, Indonesians, and Filipinos under Imperial Japan.
European centered academics document war crimes committed against the Koreans, Manchurians, Chinese, Indonesians, and Filipinos under Imperial Japan.
Asiatic centered academics document war crimes committed against the Koreans, Manchurians, Chinese, Indonesians, and Filipinos under Imperial Japan.
Japanese centered academics document war crimes committed against the Koreans, Manchurians, Chinese, Indonesians, and Filipinos under Imperial Japan.
Is every single academic quoting official military documentation of all parties involved along with firsthand accounts somehow wrong but the only reliable source of Imperial Japan ultra-nationalistic Japanese talking heads or the equivalent of neo-Nazis for Imperial Japan in the west?
7c0d69 No.2248339
>>2248338
Historians can be wrong and what Japanese academics claim Nanjing happened?
395294 No.2248340
>>2248339
Honda Katsuichi and Hora Tomio?
994987 No.2248341
>>2248337
Sure you do.
Right, they're lying. Because Japan can do no wrong, and if anyone says so they're clearly liars.
Well you can't have the footage. It is now in the possession of the Korean Government and US Government.
YES! There is! If you watched that fucking news story you'd know there was!
No, the US rebuilt Korea after Japan stripped and raped it.
Yeah, I guess them.
994987 No.2248342
inb4 brainwashed, bad historians, and/or disgraces to Japan
84d1ed No.2248343
>>2248312
Its one thing to give it your best shot, its another thing to chase a goal beyond what is proper. If this keeps up or by the end of the year you are still doing the same thing, you should sit yourself down and ask yourself if doing this is what you actually want to do or if youre chasing it out of a misplaced and self destructive sense of pride.
Brb second workshop session
9380dc No.2248344
>>2248343
nigga I'm fine
it was literally just a couple days of being really busy
I've been doing great and I enjoy my major
chill
7c0d69 No.2248345
>>2248340
Still doesn't mean the evidence for Nanjing isn't false
Nanjing citizens celebrating Japanese victory in the battle of Nanjing, awfully happy for people who were being massacred.
>>2248341
>Right, they're lying. Because Japan can do no wrong, and if anyone says so they're clearly liars.
Japan can do wrong but this seems more like western whining, why do they come to Japan if it is so bad?
>Well you can't have the footage. It is now in the possession of the Korean Government and US Government.
That is really convenient for them
>YES! There is! If you watched that fucking news story you'd know there was!
Against the foreign workers?
>No, the US rebuilt Korea after Japan stripped and raped it.
When we invaded Korea we built lots of infrastructure, we abolished slavery and taught Koreans how to read and write (in Hangul)
>Yeah, I guess them.
Obviously they aren't Japanese they're Ainu but I have no qualms with them.
994987 No.2248346
>>2248345
The same reason immigrants came to the US when things were horrendous for them here. They're lied to.
Sure it is. It also happens to be REALLY inconvenient for Japan.
Yes.
You built brothels and military institutions.
>they aren't Japanese
They were there first.
7c0d69 No.2248347
>>2248346
>The same reason immigrants came to the US when things were horrendous for them here. They're lied to.
Why don't they leave?
>Sure it is. It also happens to be REALLY inconvenient for Japan.
Really inconvenient they can't realise it?
If it's real show it, why hide the (((truth)))?
>Yes.
Haven't seen or heard about any foreign workers assaulted by their boss
>You built brothels and military institutions.
Gook lie ,we modernized Korea and turned it from one of the poorest countries at the time to a rich one.
>They were there first.
Where?
Hokkaido?
They literally aren't Japanese they are Ainu.
395294 No.2248348
>>2248345
There's images of Japanese Americans cheering at their impending internment. Were they happy and was it their choice?
395294 No.2248349
For that matter, how does one photograph counter thousands of witnesses and military accounts?
7c0d69 No.2248350
>>2248348
Alright here
Alleged evidence of Nanjing, but it's a Chinese soldier not a Japanese
395294 No.2248351
>>2248350
This is no different than a picture of an extermination camp, pointing at a sign and saying "but the writing here is Polish, therefor the Holocaust is anti-German propaganda".
7c0d69 No.2248352
>>2248349
Many of those accounts have inconsistencies and errors
>I have never heard or seen any massacre in Nanking
<Colonel Omigaku Mori
>I entered Nanking with the Japanese army and walked around in the city at random every day, but I have never seen any massacre nor heard it from soldiers or my colleagues. It is impossible for me to say that there was a massacre. Of course, I saw many corpses, but they were those killed in battle.
<Yoshio Kanazawa
>It is a fact that there were crimes and bad aspects of the Japanese military, but there was absolutely no massacre of 200,000-300,000, or even 1,000 people. Every citizen was watching us. If we had done such a thing , it would be a terrible problem. Absolutely it is a lie, false propaganda
<Tokuyasu Fukuda
>I used to play with neighboring Chinese children in Nanking, but I have never heard even a rumor of the massacre
<https://nipponaikoku.livejournal.com/
>On the way to Nanking, I was ordered to stand as a guard having a rifle one night when I noticed a young Chinese lady in Chinese dress walking toward me. She said in fluent Japanese, ‘You are a Japanese soldier, aren’t you.” And she continued, ‘I ran away from Shanghai; other people were killed or got separated and I thought it would be dangerous for me to be near the Chinese military, so I’ve come here.” “Where did you learn Japanese?” said I, and she said, “I graduated from a school in Nagasaki, Japan, and later, worked for a Japanese bookstore in Shanghai.” We checked but there was nothing suspicious on her. And since we did not have any translator, we decided to hire her as a translator. She was also very good at cooking, knowing Japanese taste, and turned on all her charm for all of us, so we made much of her. She sometimes sang Japanese songs for us, and her jokes made us laugh. She was the only woman in the military unit but made our hard march pleasant. Before the beginning of our attack to the city of Nanking, the commander made her return to Shanghai
>We defeated the enemy and saw thousands of them dead on the ground of Nanking. But finding a Chinese soldier still alive, our captain gave him water and medicine. The Chinese soldier folded his hands and said “Xie xie” (Thank you) with tears welled up in his eyes. In this way, our infantry company saved 30-40 Chinese soldiers and let them go home. Among them were many who cooperated with us and worked for us. When they had to part from us, they were reluctant to leave, shed tears and then went home
>When we had just entered the Nanking Safety Zone, every woman was dressed in rags with her face and all her skin dirtied with Chinese ink, oil or mud to appear as ugly as possible. But after they got to know that the Japanese soldiers were strictly maintaining military discipline, their black faces turned to natural skin, and their dirty clothes turned to fine ones. Soon, I became to come across beautiful ladies in the streets
>When I was washing my face in a hospital in Nanking, a Chinese man came to me and said, “Good morning, soldier,” in fluent Japanese. He continued, “I was in Osaka for 18 years.” I asked him to become a translator for the Japanese army. He later went to his family, came back and said, “I told my family, ‘The Japanese army have come. So, you are now all safe.’” He cooperated faithfully with the Japanese army for 15 months until we reached Hankou.
And many more testimonies like that
>>2248351
No it's more like a picture of a British pushing the button to gas the jews.
The man is Chinese not Japanese so it can't be of Nanjing
395294 No.2248353
A lot of policing against conquered peoples have historically been by members of the groups conquered. I don't see how one man in a Chinese uniform couldn't fall under the plausible explanations rather than "this one photo means thousands of firsthand reports are wrong".
The only person indoctrinated by propaganda here is you, the one denying anything close to reality, a reality that the majority of Japanese scholars believe happen.
395294 No.2248354
>>2248352
So your argument is that "these Japanese military officials were there and deny it happened therefor it couldn't have happened". So the weight of a handful against the thousands of accusations bolstered by military documentation, confessions by Japanese soldiers and nationals, and physical evidence?
7c0d69 No.2248355
>>2248353
And this one?
Allegedly a Japanese soldier killing someone in Nanjing, but the man is Chinese
395294 No.2248356
It's like having evidence against a rapist, DNA, testimony, and corroborating accounts, and then just interviewing the rapist and proclaim they're innocent because they said they didn't do anything.
7c0d69 No.2248357
>>2248354
Not all of those were soldiers, one was from (at the time)a child.
>physical evidence
>>2248355
>confessions by Japanese soldiers and nationals
>In 2002, The Battle of Nanjing -- A Search of Sealed Memories was published in Nanking. It consists of testimonies from 102 Japanese veterans who participated in the Sino-Japanese War, especially the battle of Nanking. The book was compiled by Tamaki Matsuoka, and the confessions include committing atrocities in Nanking, such as rape, robbery and murder. However, all the veterans’ names are either anonymous or false. As a result, none of the veterans can be held accountable for the truth and accuracy of their testimonies. If the testimonies of these veterans are true, it only means that they were war criminals who violated military discipline and evaded the scrutiny of the Japanese military police, thereby managing to evade punishment. Moreover, none of these testimonies mention a massacre in the hundreds of thousands.
>Kozo Tadokoro, whose testimony is quoted in Iris Chang’s book, The Rape of Nanking, says that he committed crimes of murder and rape in Nanking during the “ten days” after its fall. However, Professors Takemoto and Ohara point out that the unit to which Tadokoro belonged had left Nanking on December 15, two days after the fall of Nanking. Tadokoro therefore should not have been able to stay in Nanking for ten days. He confessed later, “I told a lie because the interviewer asked me to tell something exciting.” Thus, he himself has denied the credibility of his own speech.
>Kazuo Sone has published his memoirs, and related his criminal acts of murder and his eye-witnessed stories. He describes himself as an infantry squad leader; but he had been a private in an Artillery Regiment. Professors Takemoto and Ohara point out that, contrary to the Infantry, the Artillery generally has never been sent to the front line of battle. The 3rd Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Division, to which this man was assigned, has been located in the rear area, and was never engaged in battle directly against the Chinese Army. Only a part of his regiment participated in the entry ceremony into Nanking. Therefore, it was impossible for him to have executed or eye-witnessed brutal criminal acts inside or in the vicinity of Nanking, as he described in his book. Also, his colleagues who did engage in the operation in Nanking say that they did not witness nor perform any such criminal acts. In other words, Sone’s memoirs are entirely his own creation.
395294 No.2248358
>>2248355
There's countless images of WW2 misattributed because there's literal millions of them archived. None of these prove anything because they lack any and all context.
7c0d69 No.2248359
>>2248358
That image was said by the AP to be of Nanjing in 1937
Iris Chang also said that was an image of Nanjing in her book.
https://files.catbox.moe/21hfw3.jpg
Staged image.
https://files.catbox.moe/r27czx.jpg
Claimed to be a woman killed in Nanjing, but that type of practice (skewering vagina) is a Chinese practice and has never been recorded in Japanese history, unless the Japanese suddenly decided to do it during Nanjing this person was killed by Chinese
395294 No.2248360
>>2248357
You are countering points with evidence against specific cases that aren't even being mentioned with a copypasta of whatever you think was close enough. I've never read nor heard of either of these books. The accounts I'm speaking of is the postwar records and interviews used as evidence in the Tokyo Trial.
Or will you say all charges levied in the tribunal and all evidence presented of war crimes was mere fabrication?
You can delude yourself into some hysteria far disconnected from even what your countrymen accept as truth.
>>2248359
So if one person misreports an image of the massacre, all depictions and personal accounts are wrong? What counter do you have to the Tokyo Trial, overseen by every nation but yours?
994987 No.2248361
>>2248347
Because they owe shit tons of money just getting there.
They can, but it would be horrifying and difficult to watch. Like Holocaust footage they didn't release for a long time.
Because so few people in Japan care.
>gook lie
Yeah, and that's why we're disinclined to believe you.
They were in Japan first.
7c0d69 No.2248362
>>2248360
>Or will you say all charges levied in the tribunal and all evidence presented of war crimes was mere fabrication?
>The International Military Tribunal for the Far East (Tokyo Trial) used the burial records of about 40,000 bodies by the Red Swastika Society, a Chinese voluntary association in Nanking, as evidence of killings of the Japanese military. The Tribunal also used the burial records of 112,267 bodies by the Chung Shan Tang (Tsung Shan Tong), a 140-year-old charitable organization. The combined total was about 155,000.
>Miner S. Bates also testified in the Tokyo Trial after World War II that he had seen many civilian dead bodies lying about everywhere in his neighborhood for many days in Nanking after its fall
>According to the Japanese newspaper Tokyo Nichinichi Shimbun on December 26, 1937, which reports when correspondents Wakaume and Murakami visited Professor Bates at his official university residence on December 15, two days after the fall of Nanking, Bates welcomed them in a good humor, shook hands with them and said, “I am so happy that the orderly Japanese military entered Nanking and peace has been restored to the city.” The correspondents did not see in his neighborhood the “…many civilian dead bodies lying about everywhere,” which Bates testified to have seen.
>“On December 13, about 30 soldiers came to a Chinese house at #5 Hsing Lu Koo in the southeastern part of Nanking, and demanded entrance. The door was opened by the landlord, a Mohammedan named Ha. They killed him immediately with a revolver and also Mrs. Ha, who knelt before them after Ha’s death, begging them not to kill anyone else. Mrs. Ha asked them why they killed her husband and they shot her dead. Mrs. Hsia was dragged out from under a table in the guest hall where she had tried to hide with her 1-year-old baby. After being stripped and raped by one or more men, she was bayoneted in the chest, and then had a bottle thrust into her vagina. The baby was killed with a bayonet. Some soldiers then went to the next room, where Mrs. Hsia’s parents, aged 76 and 74, and her two daughters aged 16 and 14 were. They were about to rape the girls when the grandmother tried to protect them. The soldiers killed her with a revolver. The grandfather grasped the body of his wife and was killed. The two girls were then stripped, the elder being raped by 2-3 men, and the younger by 3. The older girl was stabbed afterwards and a cane was rammed in her vagina. The younger girl was bayoneted also but was spared the horrible treatment that had been meted out to her sister and mother. The soldiers then bayoneted another sister of between 7-8, who was also in the room. The last murders in the house were of Ha’s two children, aged 4 and 2 respectively. The older was bayoneted and the younger split down through the head with a sword. “
>Magee heard about this crime from the 7-8 year old girl who had been bayoneted but survived and told this whole story two weeks after the crime. Magee wrote that he had recorded this story, adding some “corrections” to what the girl told him with the help of her relatives and neighbors. Magee thought that these “soldiers” had been Japanese; however, they could not be Japanese, but Chinese.
>Magee wrote that this had happened on December 13, but on December 8 every citizen had been already forced to move to the Safety Zone by the Chinese army, and was inside the Zone. The family in the story was outside the Zone, and it was most dangerous and highly unlikely that they were outside it on December 13 when the Japanese military entered the city. It is thus very likely that the crime was actually committed before December 8 or 13 by Chinese soldiers. In addition, the practice of thrusting items into females vaginas was typically Chinese. Such a practice often appears in Chinese chronicles. The Japanese never had such a custom.
>The murder case witnessed by Magee himself was, as he testified in the Tokyo Trial, only one: a Japanese soldier shooting a Chinese who had begun to run away when questioned about his name and identity by the Japanese soldier. The Japanese soldier was searching Chinese soldiers in mufti (ordinary clothes), and such a killing is recognized as legitimate under international law.
Magee had no legitimate eye witness accounts, only stories he had heard, his one murder he witnessed wasn't murder.
7c0d69 No.2248363
>According to Magee, the cases which he himself witnessed other than the above-mentioned killing were only one rape and one rubbery. The rest were all hearsay. The alleged rape he witnessed was that he had seen a Japanese soldier coming toward a man’s wife; however, Magee did not actually see a rape. The Japanese soldier might have come to question the woman or her husband. The alleged robbery was that Magee had seen a Japanese soldier coming out of a house with an icebox in his hands. In other words, Magee did not personally see any horrible crimes committed by Japanese soldiers in Nanking.
>the commander of the Japanese army, General Iwane Matsui, held with his whole army a memorial service to express condolences to both the Chinese and the Japanese war dead. In his speech he scolded his men for what he had heard about crimes of rape and looting committed by Japanese soldiers in the city. Matsui said:
>A group of soldiers dishonored our Imperial Army by performing outrageous conduct. What the hell have you done? What you did was unworthy of the Imperial Army. From now on, keep military discipline strictly and never treat innocent people cruelly. Remember it is the only way to console the war dead
>General Matsui never mentioned the occurrence of a massacre. Later, he testified in the Tokyo Trial on Nov. 24, 1947:
>After the fall of Nanking, some young officers and men committed atrocities, for which I deeply feel sorry. However, I never heard or saw in Nanking a large scale massacre or atrocities such as the ones the prosecution insists upon, and it was never reported when I was in Shanghai, either.
>Yasuto Nakayama, a staff officer of the Japanese army in Nanking, testified in the Tokyo Trial:
>After the entry into Nanking, unlawful acts were committed by Japanese soldiers and I remember having examined these cases. I think that there were four or five officers involving in the above cases I disposed, but the rest were cases mostly sporadically committed by the rank-and-file. The kinds of crimes were chiefly plunder and rape, while the cases of theft and injury were few. And to the best of my knowledge I remember that there happened few cases that resulted in death. I remember that there were a few murder cases, but have no memory of having punished incendiaries or dealt with mass slaughter criminals
>So if one person misreports an image of the massacre, all depictions and personal accounts are wrong? What counter do you have to the Tokyo Trial, overseen by every nation but yours?
Why would there be so many images of Nanjing that were actually Chinese?
Chinese soldier executing a man, this is claimed as an image of Nanjing.
>>2248361
>Because they owe shit tons of money just getting there.
And if its clearly bad just come back?
>They can, but it would be horrifying and difficult to watch. Like Holocaust footage they didn't release for a long time.
Sure it's horrible but it is optional to watch
>Because so few people in Japan care.
youre not wrong, even if it were true i wouldnt care
>They were in Japan first.
They were in Hokkaido first
I'm not sure what your point is I have nothing against the Ainu, are you suggesting we give them Hokkaido and let them be independent?
994987 No.2248364
>>2248363
Going back would cause them to be killed or go to prison for debt.
They will release it eventually.
And that's a fucking problem.
I am suggesting that there is also a prejudice against other Japanese citizens.
7c0d69 No.2248365
>>2248364
>to be killed
are they refugees or workers?
>They will release it eventually.
its been over 70 years
>And that's a fucking problem.
no it isn't
>I am suggesting that there is also a prejudice against other Japanese citizens.
What prejudice is there against the Ainu?
8904ed No.2248366
There is a lot of text going on right now. I am intimidated.
994987 No.2248367
>>2248365
Workers who suddenly owe a lot of money with the promise of making even more money in Japan, only to find the opposite is true when it is to late.
They just found it last year.
Yes it is.
There identity is being completely destroyed by the Japanese.
994987 No.2248368
>>2248366
Go to your room.
8904ed No.2248369
>>2248368
I'm always in my room.
994987 No.2248370
>>2248369
Then get in your closet.
8904ed No.2248371
>>2248370
I am already in the closet.
26c52b No.2248372
I mean fool is retarded but come on. There's a massive amount of evidence and every single argument to disprove that evidence individually is circumstantial at fucking best.
26c52b No.2248373
>>2248369
Let the rest of us in
8904ed No.2248374
>>2248373
Mommy says not to let strangers into my room.
994987 No.2248375
>>2248371
Then get in your hamper.
>>2248372
>you're retarded
>says an aussie
8904ed No.2248376
tough my onii-chan seems to encourage it.
>>2248375
I do not have one of those.
994987 No.2248377
>>2248376
Then get in a drawer.
26c52b No.2248378
>>2248374
She's just jealous and trying to keep people out.
>>2248375
eric, simply eric
994987 No.2248379
8904ed No.2248380
>>2248378
She knows what is best, I will listen to her diligently.
>>2248377
I will do my best, but can make no promises.
26c52b No.2248381
>>2248380
But to be cool you gotta rebel. You wanna be cool, don't you?
8904ed No.2248382
>>2248381
I prefer being warm. Besides, I need to take precautions to protect myself against my stalker.
994987 No.2248383
>>2248380
If you can't fit take one out and crawl into two.
26c52b No.2248384
>>2248382
Being warm is an essential part of being cool.
You have a stalker?
8904ed No.2248385
>>2248384
Yeah. He's been at it for fours years. He has been mostly unsuccessful though.
26c52b No.2248386
>>2248385
Who would stalk an internet fishdog?
8904ed No.2248387
>>2248386
Middle aged ephebophiles.
26c52b No.2248388
>>2248387
That's kinda gay
7c0d69 No.2248389
>>2248367
why would they be killed?
>They just found it last year.
Took them a while
>Yes it is.
How is it a problem?
>There identity is being completely destroyed by the Japanese.
It's not.
>>2248372
>There's a massive amount of evidence
There's not
Japanese newspaper published 5 days after Nanjing invasion
>Restoring peace in Nanjing
Right image = Japanese buying from Chinese
Top = Chinese farmers returning to Nanjing
Bottom = Chinese citizens returning to Nanjing
8904ed No.2248390
>>2248388
Yes, it is horrifying.
26c52b No.2248391
>>2248390
To be fair you're kinda gay
26c52b No.2248392
>>2248389
>Japanese newspaper
84d1ed No.2248393
>>2248344
I'm just saying that seems all too familiar to me. Not telling you what to do, just to keep your head about you if shit gets rough and not be a stubborn fuck.
8904ed No.2248394
>>2248391
I was unaware of this.
26c52b No.2248395
>>2248394
You post a fishdog on the internet
84d1ed No.2248397
It doss look kinda gay to be fair
84d1ed No.2248399
I only bully in the bedroom
994987 No.2248400
>>2248389
Same reason immigrants get killed everywhere.
They didn't start looking for it until three years ago.
Because your lack of empathy means you haven't learned any lessons from the war.
It is. There are some 200,000 Anui in Japan who don't know they are Anui because their Anui identity was erased.
Japanese newspapers wouldn't call it anything but restoration of peace. What are they actually gonna admit the truth? "Forced labor imported into occupied Nanking, women raped, citizens killed on a mass scale" doesn't have the same ring to it.
26c52b No.2248401
>>2248396
my logic is impeccable
7c0d69 No.2248402
>>2248392
THis one comes from a British paper
>Same reason immigrants get killed everywhere.
?
>They didn't start looking for it until three years ago.
Wonder why, maybe its the same reason no koreans claimed to have been brought to Japan until 1989
>Because your lack of empathy means you haven't learned any lessons from the war
Why would I care about non Japanese?
The war taught me not to trust foreigners.
>It is. There are some 200,000 Anui in Japan who don't know they are Anui because their Anui identity was erased.
It wasn't
>Japanese newspapers wouldn't call it anything but restoration of peace. What are they actually gonna admit the truth? "Forced labor imported into occupied Nanking, women raped, citizens killed on a mass scale" doesn't have the same ring to it.
There were Amerrican and European press in Nanjing, none reported a massacre until after the occupation
7c0d69 No.2248403
26c52b No.2248404
>>2248402
The actual content of the image is pretty damn vague image. I hope you don't seriously believe any invading force is gonna go showering the locals with gifts and take that at face value.
7c0d69 No.2248405
>>2248404
Why would we be giving gifts if we were later going to kill them?
Japanese soldiers playing with Chinese children, parents are wearing armband of Japanese flag
994987 No.2248406
>>2248402
There are pictures of Nazis being kind to Jews in the camps. It means nothing.
Debt to people you shouldn't owe a debt to.
But there were Koreans who say that.
Because ultra nationalism leads to war. The war should have taught Japan to deal more kindly with people.
It is.
But they did. You can ignore facts, but it doesn't make you right. Japan refuses to admit to their crimes. They even have the remains of Japanese war criminals enshrined in the Yasukuni Shrine as heroes.
26c52b No.2248407
>>2248405
You never heard of propaganda?
Mind you, playing with is very different to giving gifts. While there's a chance that soldiers could be interacting amicably with the locals, they're not going to be bringing shit to give to them. Ergo, it has to have been organized by the Japanese military/media/whatever and thus is inherently propaganda regardless of the circumstances at Nanking. All the image in >>2248402 proves is exactly that there WAS a propaganda effort by the japanese military in the region.
26c52b No.2248408
While we're on the topic of nazis and genocide n sheeeeit
Daily reminder that the jews were barely half of the people the Nazis killed in concentration camps. There is a significant push to force it into a merely jewish issue which is forgetting over five million other people murdered.
994987 No.2248409
>>2248408
Oh, no, I completely remember that. Homosexuals, communists, political dissidents, Protestants, people with mental or physical disabilities.
26c52b No.2248410
>>2248409
Slavs (including an arbitrary number of poles) were the biggest group in that iirc.
994987 No.2248411
>>2248410
Yes, people with mental disabilities and Communists.
7c0d69 No.2248412
>>2248406
>There are pictures of Nazis being kind to Jews in the camps. It means nothing.
Japanese medics nursing Chinese, 5 days after occupation of Nanjing, comes from British newspaper.
Why nurse them if we were going to kill them?
>Debt to people you shouldn't owe a debt to.
No one in Japan will kill you debt except Yakuza
>But there were Koreans who say that.
Not before 1989
>The war should have taught Japan to deal more kindly with people.
Let's see where kindness would've gotten us
>Russo-Japanese war
>Russian take Hokkaido for themselves, we won't get Kuril or Karafuto back
>Korean occupation
>Russia invades korea, treats them even worse and later invades Japan
>Manchuria invasion
>Chinese keep killing manchurs and oppressing them
>Shanghai
>Chinese kill Japanese and western settlers
>Indochina
>Europeans keep rule of it
>Pearl harbour
>Follow the hull's note and revert Japan to Meiji era
Wow pacifism sure is great
>It is.
It wasn't, why else would we fight for Karafuto, the people living there are mostly Ainu.
>But they did.
They didn't.
>On the day when the Japanese troops entered Nanking, more than 100 press reporters and photographers entered together with them. The press corps were not only from Japan, but also from European and American press organizations, including Reuters and AP. However, none of the press corps reported the occurrence of a massacre of 300,000 people. Paramount News (American newsreels) made films reporting the Japanese occupation in Nanking, but did not report the occurrence of a massacre.
>The British newspaper North China Daily News, which was published in China in English on December 24, 1937, eleven days after the Japanese occupation of Nanking, carried a photo taken in Nanking by their photographer. The photo was entitled “Japanese distribute gifts in Nanking.” In the photo are Japanese soldiers distributing gifts, and Chinese adults and children receiving the gifts and rejoicing.
Why did not one of them mention the massacre?
>They even have the remains of Japanese war criminals enshrined in the Yasukuni Shrine as heroes.
American graves have war criminals, it's a shrine to all who died fighting for Japan in WW2/Sino-Japan war.
There are 2.5 million people there, less than a thousand are criminals.
>>2248407
>You never heard of propaganda?
Yeah it's called Nanjing massacre.
There were British newspaper who reported on it, not just Japanese.
>>2248409
>fags
>commies
>protestants
>mentally ill
>physically disabled
nothing wrong with that
>>2248410
Nothing wrong with this either, the allies were in the wrong for not killing slavs.
26c52b No.2248413
>>2248412
Reported on it using pictures either provided by or set up by the Japanese forces.
7c0d69 No.2248414
>>2248413
and why would we bother?
9b2444 No.2248415
Yes why would a country actively downplay the systemic killing of a region they just invaded from a group of Asiatic Nations and islands watching rapid imperial Japanese expansionism?
Hmm
994987 No.2248416
>>2248412
Nazis had doctors in their camps too.
I'm not talking in Japan.
Yes before 1989.
I'm talking after the war. I have already made it clear that I believe Japan thought sincerely that they were acting in defense.
It is and because no nation wants to give up land.
They did though.
>On 13 December 1937, John Rabe wrote in his diary:
>It is not until we tour the city that we learn the extent of destruction. We come across corpses every 100 to 200 yards. The bodies of civilians that I examined had bullet holes in their backs. These people had presumably been fleeing and were shot from behind. The Japanese march through the city in groups of ten to twenty soldiers and loot the shops ... I watched with my own eyes as they looted the café of our German baker Herr Kiessling. Hempel's hotel was broken into as well, as [was] almost every shop on Chung Shang and Taiping Road.
It's a shrine that includes Hideki Tojo.
26c52b No.2248417
>>2248414
...why would an invading force paint themselves as liberators both internally and externally in their rapid imperialistic expansion?
You don't know much about history in general, do you?
994987 No.2248418
>>2248417
He is a Japanese Nationalist.
26c52b No.2248419
>>2248418
and ur a big dum lmao
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26c52b No.2248421
>>2248420
and ur a bigger dum lmao-er
9b2444 No.2248422
>>2248421
I'm calling the police on u
26c52b No.2248423
>>2248422
call the cops they cant mak u not dum
lmoa
84d1ed No.2248424
Huh, apparently double-tapping the switch applications button tabs back to the previous app.
26c52b No.2248425
>>2248424
thank you based dedicated buttons
84d1ed No.2248426
>>2248425
Fuck gestures tbh
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7c0d69 No.2248428
>>2248415
No why would we stage photos to use for propaganda?
>>2248416
>Nazis had doctors in their camps too.
Did they treat to sick jews? Because from what I heard of the holocaust lots of jews died from sickness
>I'm not talking in Japan.
So why does that matter to us, should we take in immigrant because they might be killed in their home country?
>Yes before 1989.
There weren't
>I'm talking after the war. I have already made it clear that I believe Japan thought sincerely that they were acting in defense.
And why should we do that now?
>It is and because no nation wants to give up land.
Karafuto is mostly empty and is mostly populated by ainu
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>Rabe's report
Biased, full of errors and fiction
Here's what he originally said
>December 14, 1937
>Dear commander of the Japanese army in Nanking,
>We appreciate that the artillerymen of your army did not attack the Safety Zone. We hope to contact you to make a plan to protect the general Chinese citizens who are staying in the Safety Zone. We will be pleased to cooperate with you in any way to protect the general citizens in this city.
>--Chairman of the Nanking International Committee, John H. D. Rabe--”
First of all Rabe sold guns to Chinese
Secondly he was arrested for lying
>Rabe had secretly sheltered two Chinese colonels, Long and Zhou, who performed anti-Japanese maneuvers in the Safety Zone. Rabe’s conduct was of course a violation of the agreement with the Japanese army. Rabe wrote in his diary on February 22, 1938, that he had been sheltering another Chinese officer, Officer Wang
That exact quote you mentioned was from soldiers in mufti
>Masaaki Tanaka, the ex-secretary of General Iwane Matsui, claims that there are many contradictions in John Rabe’s descriptions. For instance, according to him, General Matsui ordered a cease-fire on December 9, distributed to the city surrender recommendation handbills, and waited until noon of December 10 for the answer. Tanaka then points out, “Rabe wrote in his diary that the combat was continuing and Rabe did not mention anything about the cease-fire or the handbills.”
>Rabe wrote that he saw here and there “dead women who had canes rammed in their vaginas”; however, such a practice was Chinese, not Japanese.
>James McCallum, a medical doctor in Nanking, wrote in his diary on December 29, 1937, “We have had some very pleasant Japanese who have treated us with courtesy and respect. Occasionally I have seen a Japanese helping some Chinese, or picking up a Chinese baby to play with it.” However, Rabe did not write any such things, and only wrote that the Safety Zone had been like a hell full of fire and rape every day. Tanaka thus argues that Rabe’s descriptions are not reliable. Tanaka writes, “Rabe’s descriptions were very biased fishy stories. I think I can understand the reason why Adolf Hitler did not trust his report, but rather imprisoned him.”
James McCallum wrote that he heard a Chinese refugee say this
>I can prove that the rape, looting and arson were committed by Chinese soldiers, not Japanese soldiers
>The Japanese march through the city in groups of ten to twenty soldiers and loot the shops.... I watched with my own eyes as they looted the cafe of our German baker Herr Kiessling. Hempel’s hotel was broken into as well, as was almost every shop on Chung Shang and Taiping Road
>About this looting by the Japanese soldiers, Professors Takemoto and Ohara point out, “On entering Nanking, what Japanese troops had to do was to get buildings for quartering. In order to furnish and equip them with daily necessities, officers instructed soldiers to take furniture and bedding out of the empty houses. When they were put under requisition, certificates for compensation to be made later on were attached. However, the Westerners and Chinese, watching what happened in the distance, possibly misunderstood, interpreting the activities as planned looting by Japanese soldiers.”
>It's a shrine that includes Hideki Tojo.
So?
>>2248417
Why would we, if we did massacre civilians why would we need to lie about it?
>>2248418
And youre a gook
994987 No.2248429
>>2248428
Sometimes. Sometimes they just killed them.
You should treat all humans with dignity and respect.
There were though.
Because you didn't before and had two nukes dropped on you that melted my fucking family.
And the islands off Alaska are mostly uninhabited yet we'd still fight whoever invades them.
It isn't his report, it's his fucking journal.
An Germans, Poles, and French were arrested for harboring Jews. It is a good thing to harbor those who are being systematically murdered.
9b2444 No.2248430
>>2248428
Are you seriously asking that? Are you this dense or trolling when you seriously don't think Japan would employ propaganda during a time when radio is barely making headway and news papers are key for spreading both information of disinformation?
During a point in time where you have multiple world super powers jumping into the largest global conflict in history, when you just invaded a country neighboring the Soviets?
When you're trying to make sure your targets don't appeal to larger military powers for aid?
Information control is key during that time to make sure your expansionary armies are met with the just resistance possible.
994987 No.2248431
>On 17 December, chairman John Rabe wrote a complaint to Kiyoshi Fukui, second secretary of the Japanese Embassy. The following is an excerpt:
>In other words, on the 13th when your troops entered the city, we had nearly all the civilian population gathered in a Zone in which there had been very little destruction by stray shells and no looting by Chinese soldiers even in full retreat ... All 27 Occidentals in the city at that time and our Chinese population were totally surprised by the reign of robbery, raping and killing initiated by your soldiers on the 14th. All we are asking in our protest is that you restore order among your troops and get the normal city life going as soon as possible. In the latter process we are glad to cooperate in any way we can. But even last night between 8 and 9 p.m. when five Occidental members of our staff and Committee toured the Zone to observe conditions, we did not find any single Japanese patrol either in the Zone or at the entrances
d3ab68 No.2248432
Every day it's like this now.
But why
84d1ed No.2248433
The jap wasnt slapped quite hard enough
994987 No.2248434
>In 1984, in an attempt to refute the allegations of war crimes in Nanking, the Japanese Army Veterans Association (Kaikosha) interviewed former Japanese soldiers who had served in the Nanking area from 1937–38. Instead of refuting the allegations, the interviewed veterans confirmed that a massacre had taken place and openly described and admitted to taking part in the atrocities. The results of the survey were published in the association's magazine, Kaiko, in 1985 along with an admission and apology that read, "Whatever the severity of war or special circumstances of war psychology, we just lose words faced with this mass illegal killing. As those who are related to the prewar military, we simply apologize deeply to the people of China. It was truly a regrettable act of barbarity."
9b2444 No.2248435
>>2248432
Nowhere is safe from the /pol/ meme
9380dc No.2248436
>>2248424
apparently you can hold it for split screen too but that didn't work on my android
26c52b No.2248437
>>2248428
In general:
>Internal appetite for war is much easier to manage with a positive perspective on said war
>Diplomacy with non-conquered nations is crippled far less
>Peace (including deals beneficial to your nation and/or surrender) with the nation being invaded is far, far easier
>Less resistance from occupied territory
>It literally just takes a company of soldiers and a couple of guys with cameras an afternoon of time; you had propaganda elements because everyone did and they need fuel for the fire
In specific:
>This was still before war broke out in Europe, and the general attitude in Britain and France at the time was one of placation with the Germans; they didn't want a major war in Europe, and thus expecting one was not planned
>the less threat presented to British interests (Hong Kong, Singapore, Australia, the large amount of trade they did through China, general british dominion) the better, as fucking nobody wanted to fuck with the Royal Navy if at all possible pre-WW2
>the other countries around asia which japan was invading into are less likely to become angered or aggressive; the last thing you want is a unified resistance
84d1ed No.2248438
>>2248436
Later version maybe for that feature? Im on lineageos 14.1, because apparently a 2016 phone isnt good enough for a version of android newer than what runs on the 2012 nexus 5.
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994987 No.2248442
>>2248440
Shouldn't have surrendered.
994987 No.2248443
If they didn't want to get brutally raped, tortured, and murdered they shouldn't have lost. Duh, it's science.
9b2444 No.2248444
>>2248442
They probably would not have if they knew we bluffed about how many atom bombs we had
26c52b No.2248445
>>2248444
To be fair then the US would have just kept firebombing them. More people died in Tokyo than both nukes combined.
81b292 No.2248446
>>2248085
if i learned japanese and went on a trip with family to japan, would it be autistic to try circlejerking about nationalism with locals?
do any right wing locals live in tourist zones?
is there any real threat that multiculturalism will infect japan in our lifetimes? i want to visit a homogeneous nation that isnt a mudmonkey shithole and the list seems very short already.
26c52b No.2248447
>I am going to go to a foreign nation and circlejerk about nationalism as a foreigner
81b292 No.2248448
>>2248447
why not? can't really do it here, now can i?
d3ab68 No.2248449
>>2248435
I want to be safe from the /pol/ meme.
26c52b No.2248450
>>2248448
>can't really do it in a nation which has currently elected the most radically right wing leadership in the western world
There is nothing funnier to me than people that think the west is overrun with leftists despite literally every major western nation currently having a right wing or at most centrist government elected.
Also because nationalists tend to dislike foreigners you doink.
81b292 No.2248451
>>2248450
>jewcucks are right wing
lmao!
>Also because nationalists tend to dislike foreigners you doink.
what's unlikable about temporarily visiting another country and sharing ideas about nationalism?
7c0d69 No.2248452
>>2248429
>You should treat all humans with dignity and respect.
They should treat us with respect first
>There were though.
What ones?
>Because you didn't before and had two nukes dropped on you that melted my fucking family.
I thought you said Japan was acting in defence before?
>And the islands off Alaska are mostly uninhabited yet we'd still fight whoever invades them.
You're America, you go to war over everything
>It isn't his report, it's his fucking journal.
And it's full of shit i just showed how
That case on dead Chinese civilians was wrong, they were soldiers in mufti
>It is a good thing to harbor those who are being systematically murdered.
They were soldiers not civilians, they even raped in the safety zone.
>>2248430
>Japan would employ propaganda during a time when radio is barely making headway and news papers are key for spreading both information of disinformation?
Why would we, we gain nothing from it.
>When you're trying to make sure your targets don't appeal to larger military powers for aid?
And how would those photos stop them?
>>2248431
Rabe's reports were biased, i explain why
>>2248434
All the soldiers use either no name or a fake name, can't be trusted
>>2248439
>http://divinity-adhoc.library.yale.edu/Nanking/Images/YDS-RG008-265-0002-0001.jpg
That can't be Nanjing, the grass is too long, Nanjing took place in winter not summer.
>http://divinity-adhoc.library.yale.edu/Nanking/Images/YDS-RG008-265-0002-0015.jpg
>"A group of worshippers at St. Paul's Church, Nanking, on February 20, 1938, being the first time after the fall of the city that we were able to use our Church building with any degree of safety. A Christian Japanese soldier worshipped with us that day."
That is just evidence in my favour if anything
>http://divinity-adhoc.library.yale.edu/Nanking/Images/YDS-RG008-265-0002-0037.jpg
Just soldiers
>Their old father died of fright when a Japanese soldier threatened him with a sword
WWWW
they expect people to believe that?
>The Japanese Christian who worshipped with us in St. Paul's Church on February 20, 1938. He presented us with some soap, towels, and biscuits for the refugees.
More evidence in my favour
>>2248444
we surrendered before the nukes, as for the unconditional surrender that was because of the soviet invasion
>>2248446
Yes because you're gaijin
>do any right wing locals live in tourist zones?
probably, my friend lives in tsukaba
>is there any real threat that multiculturalism will infect japan in our lifetimes?
Yes our foreign minister is a gook lover and wants us to open our borders
>>2248450
Did you just unironically call trump the most radically right wing?
26c52b No.2248453
>>2248451
>They're not right wing because I ALSO hate them
lmao!
>what's unlikable about temporarily visiting another country and sharing ideas about nationalism?
Usually the racism that goes with the territory.
>>2248452
>Did you just unironically call trump the most radically right wing?
...leadership in the western world, yes. That's a pretty clear fact, anon.
Also way to ignore my post which gave you plenty of answers to the exact same questions you reasked of Irish.
7c0d69 No.2248454
>>2248453
>...leadership in the western world, yes. That's a pretty clear fact, anon.
Matteo Salvini?
Whoever that Austrian guy is?
>Also way to ignore my post which gave you plenty of answers to the exact same questions you reasked of Irish.
Which post?
81b292 No.2248455
>>2248452
feels bad not being able to talk to anyone in person. i have so much pent-up autism. even my own family doesn't like the yid question being brought up. they have no faith in media but they still don't want to read about who runs the show.
81b292 No.2248456
>>2248453
>pssh if neocons say theyre right wing, obviously they are
?
9b2444 No.2248457
>>2248452
>We gain nothing from it
You gain more free invasion time, it didn't matter how strong in comparison Japan believed itself to be, it's safest practice to keep your targets under the impression that they aren't targets.
>How would the photos stop them
It would discredit smaller nation's claims that they are at risk of an axis power invasion. It would also fuel isolationists in reluctant post economic depression allied powers, attempting to discourage allied power citizenry from supporting war with Japan.
Propaganda is literally half the battle in war.
>We surrendered before the nukes
I'm not entirely knowledgeable to the timeline of events so I'll relent on that, personally. I'm only aware that we had dropped pamphlets on the regions before the bombs and they were more or less ignored.
>Because of the Soviet invasion
That I can see, the US also wasn't very into the idea of either a Soviet annexation, or another east/west Germany situation
7c0d69 No.2248458
>>2248457
>You gain more free invasion time, it didn't matter how strong in comparison Japan believed itself to be, it's safest practice to keep your targets under the impression that they aren't targets.
Chinese Nationalists knew we were at war, even the Chinese Communists did and exploited the fact.
>It would discredit smaller nation's claims that they are at risk of an axis power invasion. It would also fuel isolationists in reluctant post economic depression allied powers, attempting to discourage allied power citizenry from supporting war with Japan.
A few pictures of dead civilians would dispute that
>Propaganda is literally half the battle in war.
Seems like the allies won that battle too
>I'm not entirely knowledgeable to the timeline of events so I'll relent on that, personally. I'm only aware that we had dropped pamphlets on the regions before the bombs and they were more or less ignored.
We offered to surrender under a few conditions, that Hirohito remain on the throne and not be charged with war crimes.
>That I can see, the US also wasn't very into the idea of either a Soviet annexation, or another east/west Germany situation
If Soviets agreed to help us we would've kept fighting.
26c52b No.2248459
>>2248454
>deputy leader
>someone literally who enough from a literal who enough of a country that nobody can ever remember his name
>post
>>2248437
>>2248456
>pssh if I call them neocons because they have one or two minor disagreements with my world view they're suddenly not right wing despite advocating for everything the right wing has stood for during the past century
81b292 No.2248460
>>2248459
>n-no really, they are right wing. i'm not about to cite any concrete examples of actual conservative policy, but just trust me.
9b2444 No.2248461
>>2248458
I'm referring to surrounding Nations, smaller island Nations, the Philippines, Korea etc they all wanted to think a Chinese mainland invasion was a one off thing, I'd bet.
>A few pictures of dead civilians would dispute that
I'm not entirely sure I follow. Again is it not in Japanese interest at the time to NOT spur on the British colonial holdings in Asia? The least resistance, the better right?
>If Soviets agreed to help us we would've kept fighting.
Unfortunately you had allied with fascist Germany, and wholly disavowed their most sacred economic, political and social tenants on communism, and Russia wouldn't be apt for an alliance with another axis power after Germany turned on them
7c0d69 No.2248462
>>2248459
isnt it the same role just a different name
>literal who
So?
You said Trump is the most radically right wing leader in the west
not the most relevant one
>>2248437
honestly more people would support a war about genociding chinks back then
>Diplomacy with non-conquered nations is crippled far less
Not like we had good relations anyways
>Peace (including deals beneficial to your nation and/or surrender) with the nation being invaded is far, far easier
Yeah like how America accepted our surrender instead of nuking us...
>Less resistance from occupied territory
Didnt' change that
Even if it was propaganda what about the foreign press in Nanjing?
None of them reported a massacre until well after the occupation
>>2248461
>phillipines
invaded by america
>korea
under japanese rule
We already invaded manchuria before Shanghai and Nanjing
>I'm not entirely sure I follow. Again is it not in Japanese interest at the time to NOT spur on the British colonial holdings in Asia? The least resistance, the better right?
How would those images help with spurring on british colonies?
>Unfortunately you had allied with fascist Germany, and wholly disavowed their most sacred economic, political and social tenants on communism, and Russia wouldn't be apt for an alliance with another axis power after Germany turned on them
Soviets wouldn't have done it anyways, they hate us, we prevented them from taking Manchuria, Korea and Karafuto
26c52b No.2248463
>>2248460
>t-these pro-corporation (disguised as 'pro-business' or being economically focused), anti-worker rights, anti-immigration, anti-infrastructure and socially conservative parties are actually not right wing because [no reason given]
I get it man, you have no actual ground to stand on and can only throw up minor disagreements to try and disqualify shit, but if you're the one claiming they're not right wing despite claiming to be so themselves you really should provide some sort of argument yourself.
9b2444 No.2248464
>>2248462
You don't think The United States or the British Commonwealth would be worried about their Asiatic colonies/holdings then? Again, it's in Japanese interests to push the agenda that those holdings aren't at risk.
If I were one of those colonies and saw what was going on with the neighbors (invasion of Chinese mainland), I'd be worried too.
And if my colonies main countries were worried enough there'd probably be naval action from at least both sides, suddenly expanding imperial Japanese territory is a lot more risky.
I'm not even arguing the ethics of the propaganda campaigns, but the reason why most countries DID use it, because it's an important war time tool that Japan did infact use, for their own best interests
81b292 No.2248465
>>2248463
>anti-immigration
whites will still become minorities in white countries if immigration were halted tomorrow. no major western leader has advocated for mass deportation of all shitskins and likely none will be allowed to follow through even if they did (what is lip service?). this is the most integral part of real conservatism. you seem kinda slow, so i will reiterate: legislating to maintain genetic homogeneity is the real conservative stance and anything short of that is autism.
given the rest of your greentext, i don't think you understand what conservatism is supposed to be. you just end up sounding like a smug faggot who jacks off to daily strawman with stewartsteinberg.
now here's the part where you start saying something constructive. give it a shot, champ.
971c7e No.2248466
Im on government internet, all mainstream porn is blocked, i need help gib some decent pornsites on the down low
971c7e No.2248467
Also wtf is this tad even
7c0d69 No.2248468
>>2248464
We had a reason to invade China, the only European colony we invaded was Indochina.
>>2248466
why are you on govt internet?
26c52b No.2248469
>>2248462
>isn't it the same role just a different name
Deputy is second in charge
>he's actually not the MOST right wing because of this literal who
My bad
>honestly more people would support a ware about genociding chinks back then
But the common soldiery wouldn't ACTUALLY genocide the chinks, that's just western propaganda?
>Not like we had good relations anyways
Doesn't mean you need to make them worse
>Yeah like how America...
I don't particularly care about America's bullshit, all I'm saying is that the rape of nanking factually happened and attempting to deny it is hilarious and retarded
>Didnt' change that
I said less, not none. Additionally, that doesn't mean said propaganda couldn't have possibly had an impact. We were talking about reason for the nips to make the propaganda, not its outcomes.
>b-but it was reported afterwards
Completely different point. The point here was that the idea that the japanese had no reason to attempt to propaganda away the incident is completely and utterly ludicrous and shows a near total ignorance for the geopolitical situation of the time and world history as a whole (this shit has happened countless times).
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>>2248468
Including British colonies Burma and Malya, the American holdings of the Philippines and the Dutch East Indies