No.6324
Light novels are shit. The level of writing of one of these trash is comparable to a smut fanfic written by a fourteen year old girl. The writing are so terrible that even with all the editors in nipland, you still won't be able to fix all the shitty writing because the writers are never good. And yet, these shitty fanfiction level "literature" are commonly used as a source material in anime and manga. How the fuck do the nips look at shit like Haganai, SAO, No Game No life, and fucking Oreimo and thought to themselves, "Yeah, let's adapt this. It's pretty good. Totally not the worst fucking cancer on earth." Because every time they decide to adapt one of these shit, they end up making some really terrible anime, that I'm actually surprised at how terrible it was. So why the fuck do the nips keep making and adapting these shitty books..
No.6326
You are correct. Japs have shit taste in almost everything they do.
No.6346
Think about it this way, if they didn't adapt LNs they'd have to create something original instead
No.6408
>>6407
>look guys I posted the LN that always gets posted year after year out of the countless that exist whenever someone mentions LNs being generally shit
I don't even agree with generalizations like "all [genre/medium] are shit" but it looks pretty bad when people fall back on the same example so many times in a medium that constantly has so many new works.
No.6409
They're mostly shit now but that wasn't always the case, when they first became popular there was still some good stuff like >>6407 , Haruhi, Boogiepop Phantom etc.
They started out as books that were supposed to make fun of anime/manga tropes but like all of Japanese media people misunderstood this and what started out as a way to parody that kind of stuff became the exact same thing.
The same happened with isekai parody LNs, it started out as exactly that and then suddenly there were all of these trashy bootleg versions of Konosuba where the writer pretends to be writing satire while in reality his work is just as shit or even worse compared to the real thing. An example would be that smartphone one.
No.6414
>>6324
The writers are cancerous degenerates for writing them.
The viewer base are faggots who have shit taste for liking them.
The anime producers are disgusting kikes who wish to profit from the maggot infested cesspool.
None of them have any integrity.
It's a vicious cycle.
No.6416
>>6414
I see the word filter changes 𝖩𝖾𝗐𝗌 to kikes.
No.6418
Better than the new Western novels in the "young adult" section, which is sad tbh.
No.6419
>>6416
It's the only wordfilter we have aside from one meant for people who shill a certain chat application.
No.6459
>>6324
I have a specific beef with one kind of LN- the infamous isekai genre.
Why the hell is it, that in decades of video game history, several centuries of literature and a millenia of Japanese literature, mythology and history, is it that the only world that the majority of people end up in is a generic Tolkien kitsch? There are plenty of other worlds they can think of but they always go back to that kind of world.
No.6463
>>6459
>generic Tolkien kitsch
Because it's foreign and exotic to them.
It's kinda like how the West was into samurais, ninjas and kung fu back then; except this fad doesn't seem to end.
>several centuries of literature and a millenia of Japanese literature, mythology and history
We have these kind of setting too, but they're still generic garbage.
No.6464
>>6459
>Tolkien kitsch
If only. What we get instead is the template fantasy world (in other words, a world with aspects tailored to immediately invoke the pop culture impression of what a fantasy world is), several steps removed from original Tolkien worldbuilding by way of western tabletop games, decades of incestuously-referencing RPGs, then years more of incestuously-referencing novels.
No.6476
>>6459
Tolkien is babby first fantasy. Most modern fantasy is based of Tolkien so even if someone never read tolkien when they hear the word "fantasy" they would think of a poor man's version of Middle Earth.
No.6483
>>6324
Light novels are good if you stop reading them as novels and start reading them as fantasies.
Start thinking of LNs as commercialized daydreams and you'll be much happier.
>>6459
Worldbuilding is hard, and giving that info without just doing a massive infodump at some point is even harder.
Going with something everyone already understands takes away the necessity for explanation, although it also defeats the purpose of fantasy (the concept of your average Dragon Quest RPG is about as fantastical as an office job nowadays)
No.6487
Still better than basically anything published in American.
No.6494
>>6487
I'd rather take this then the sjwized bullshit we have here.
No.6503
>>6408
>I don't even agree with generalizations like "all [genre/medium] are shit" but it looks pretty bad when people fall back on the same example so many times in a medium that constantly has so many new works.
3DCG mechs are not bad guise. I know this because I watched Majestic Prince ;)
No.6564
>>6324
Stop reading shit then.
No.6573
No.6614
>>6324
99% of all media is shit. Maybe publishers started loosening their standards at some point, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't bother to look for stuff that's actually good.
>>6408
It's not that nothing new is good, it's just that Spice & Wolf is considered a classic. If people constantly said all movies were shit, people would always bring up Citizen Kane.
>>6409
The author of Boogiepop wasn't trying to parody anime/manga tropes, he was just trying to mix them in with the weird stuff he wanted to write in order to make it more appealing to publishers, while planning to gradually phase out the anime/manga tropes as the series got more popular. The parody aspect of light novels didn't really blow up until Haruhi.
And again, I don't think shit infiltrating the market is because of there being more shit authors, it's just because of publishers loosening their standards for what they want to publish.
No.6694
>>6614
>it's just because of publishers loosening their standards for what they want to publish
Well, in the end they just want to make money and since it's mostly retarded normalfags reading light novels now (in Japan) they have to cater to their niches.
No.6695
>>6614
> I don't think shit infiltrating the market is because of there being more shit authors, it's just because of publishers loosening their standards for what they want to publish.
As more shit comes out appealing to the already niche audience, they have to output more things to hopefully keep the same amount of the market. It's a self-compounding problem.
No.6769
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Anime_and_manga_based_on_light_novels
i might not get a kick out of light novels like manga and anime, but thankfully someone does - otherwise there wouldn't be adaptations.
No.6779
>>6769
>Liking shitty adaptations of shit LNs. '
You belong in the cesspool.
No.6804
>>6564
>Just ignore shit and it will go away!
>It will totally never get a manga or anime adaptation because japs have good taste, since all anime is good!
>Shitty LN thanks to their massive success failure, other shitty LNs and anime won't copy cat them creating even more shit!
Get fucked, you apathetic prick.
No.6807
>>6804
No one was implying any of that. Just because shit won't go away doesn't mean you should read it.
No.6808
Please delete this thread. It's only fair that if my CGDCT thread got deleted, this non-conversational garbage also gets deleted.
No.6809
>>6807
>Just because shit won't go away doesn't mean you should read it.
No shit, it doesn't mean you should take it like a bitch though.
No.6810
>>6804
You're the apathetic prick. The kikes are destroying us wholesale, and all you can do is watch anime.Suck a shotgun, you piece of shit.
No.6811
>>6810
>The kikes are destroying us wholesale, and all you can do is watch anime
Says the guy shitposting in an anime board. Why aren't you fighting the good fight against the kikes?
No.6812
>>6809
Take what? It doesn't affect me if I ignore it
No.6813
>>6811
>fighting the good fight
What would that entail exactly, Moishe? The only thing I can do without being arrested is shitposting.
No.6814
>>6813
>The only thing I can do without being arrested is shitposting.
And? Hitler got arrested for attempting a coup then eventually got elected as councilor which he used his postion to become fuhrer. But if you insist not getting arrested, how about shitposting where you can raise awareness to normalfags instead?
>>6812
That fucking mentally is why those cancerous gacha game exist.
No.6816
>>6808
Looks like /a/ssfaggot are still trying to d&c since last night.
No.6818
>>6814
> how about shitposting where you can raise awareness to normalfags instead?
Are you implying that I haven't already been banned from Kikebook and Twatter for being a badgoy? Holy shit, suck a bullet kike.
No.6819
>>6814
>That fucking mentally is why those cancerous gacha game exist.
So? Why exactly should I care? If people want to waste their own time and money on gatcha games, that's their own fault.
No.6820
>>6819
You're a myopic piece of shit. You should want to elevate your people beyond kikery, but I guess you're spiritually a kike to begin with.
No.6821
>>6818
>Are you implying that I haven't already been banned from Kikebook and Twatter for being a badgoy?
Well you are pretty much just shitposting to the choir here, so yes I am. Besides make an alt to evade the ban, you're not as dumb as a nigger are you?
>>6819
Because gacha games suck dick even when you don't pay for shit. And if they're successful every mother fucker is going to copy cat that shit in an attempt to get that honey. And no matter what you believe the people who create the shit you like are no exemption. Killing cancerous shit like gacha nips that temptation in the bud.
No.6822
>>6809
Japan doesn't care about you though. Why should they? You can curse those tasteless otaku for buying the things they want to see more of, but I don't see any reason anime producers should care more about some fag who is way too upset at shitty LN adaptations than they should about some faggot upset that there are too many titties in anime. Unless your idea of not taking it like a bitch is complaining on an anonymous imageboard?
No.6824
>>6822
Overlord finally got another season because of international support of the first season. That's our attack vector.
No.6825
>>6821
>Besides make an alt to evade the ban, you're not as dumb as a nigger are you?
Why bother? I'm not going to play the kikes' game.
You are sounding more and more like a kike, and I want you to die horribly.
No.6826
>>6825
And you sound like kike trying to act like a LARPer.
No.6827
>>6826
Wanna explain your reasoning there, champ?
No.6828
>>6827
You're acting like what mark, the BO of /v/, would do if he wanted to LARP.
No.6829
>>6828
LARPing as what? I'm an anti-semite, and I'm proud of it. What am I LARPing as?
No.6830
>>6829
A kill joy anti-semite.
No.6831
No.6853
>>6779
wanna tell me how tanya, overlord, dirty pair, goblin slayer and monogatari are 'shitty adaptations' ?
No.6914
>>6821
>Because gacha games suck dick even when you don't pay for shit
But I don't play them, so why should I care? And I'm not so simple-minded that I'd play a shitty game just because it's based on something I like.
No.7074
>>6914
>Le not my problem
Are you chink? Because that's totally a chink mindset. Let me get this through your thick souless skull. Gacha is a problem because if left unchecked all games will be affected by gacha shit. Just look at DLC, it was bullshit when it first came out and now every fucking game has it, because of retards and indifferent fucks like you.
No.7075
>>6804
>>6809
No you little bitch. You're whining about a whole genre just because you only read shit. And this post only serves to deflect where you, a western retard, think you can change a foreign nation's industry. And one that anyone can get published if it's fair enough, or they just skip a publishing company and put it up as a web novel, but only a few novels actually get popular. Writing has the least production cost if you're too stupid to already know that.
Does this sound vaguely familiar? It's like any other industry.
Anyone who actually wants to discuss LNs go in the other thread. Stop responding to this bait thread.
No.7080
>>7075
>You're whining about a whole genre just because you only read shit.
This like saying people who bitch about halo, assfaggots, only play halo, assfaggots and bethesda games. That's retarded and you know it you projecting fuck. Get some fucking taste and stop ignoring the elephant in the room you souless chink.
No.7081
>>7080
What's your favorite light novel, anon?
No.7082
>>7081
I don't have one, because they're shit.
No.7083
>>7082
What's your favorite Japanese novel then?
No.7084
>>7080
>>7082
>whines about hating LNs when he only reads shit
>I-I'm n-not wrongg!!! They're just s-shit
>Keeps whining
Maybe you're just illiterate.
No.7086
>>7084
>Complaining about walking simulators means you only play walking simulators
This is what you fucking come across. It's bullshit and you know it.
>>7083
The only japanese novel i've heard of by name is the ring, even then that's only because of the horror series.
No.7092
>>7086
Your example is retarded, not comparable and not what I said either. You are complaining about a type of novel, not the content or subgenre. What I said is that if you only read shit in a type of medium, don't blame the medium, it's only because you're reading shit.
Your reading comprehension is that of a child, no wonder.
No.7097
>>7092
>Your example is retarded, not comparable and not what I said either.
No it's not. You're stating people only complain about shit if their consuming shit. It's not my fault that you come across that you're defending shit, especially if you berating people calling something shit.
>You are complaining about a type of novel, not the content or subgenre.
See pic genre=type.
>What I said is that if you only read shit in a type of medium, don't blame the medium, it's only because you're reading shit.
And i'm saying that logic is fucking flawed, since you can weasel out of it by saying 'YoU HaVeN't TrIeD ThE GoOd OnEs YeT!'. And if you do try their recommendations and still think it's terrible, jackasses like you will say 'why did you try something you know you'll hate? :^)'. There's a fucking point where you can form an solid opinion on something. You don't have to try all the damn walking simulators to know their shit, nor do you need to read all the romance novels either.
No.7099
No.7101
>>7097
Saying novels and poems are genres is different from saying horror and romance are genres. The former are forms of the work, the latter is the type of content inside the work. And vidya is too different for a valid comparison.
No.7103
>>7099
A subclass is still a class though.
>>7099
>And vidya is too different for a valid comparison
I disagree, mediums are more like an game engine. They have strengths and weaknesses. In this case light novels are the Unity of novels. Deep down you know it to be true.
No.7114
>pulp fiction isn't on par with real literature
>therefore it has no value
How have you not killed yourself for being such a fun loving faggot all these long years?
No.7118
>>7114
>Unity games aren't on par with real games
>therefore it has no value
The logic works out.
No.7124
No.7133
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No.7166
>>7075
>please enjoy this shit genre because some of them are good
>not seeing the big picture of how shit LNs are the reason for shit anime being made
I bet Re zero is your favorite anime your fucking faggot.
No.7252
>>7166
Is it really that bad, dubsman?
>hasn't actually read or watched it yet
>>7133 (checked)
SHIT YES.
No.7259
>>7252
Go back to cuckchan faggot.
No.7263
No.12153
No.12263
>>12153
Could you please continue to keep us up to date about what all your friends on reddit are thinking?