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File: 226e38ad830774f⋯.gif (1.76 MB, 500x281, 500:281, 1478155531.gif)

 No.4048

Masterpiece or trainwreck?

 No.4050

Intentionally designed as a trainwreck to assravage otakus but failed to do so.


 No.4051

>>4050

>Intentionally

broofs?


 No.4058

File: 1f65e747ffcf88c⋯.jpg (1.96 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 1505208438.jpg)

I've never watched the remake movies because from what I heard they're absolute shit and not worth watching but I do consider the main tv series and the follow-up film to be a masterpiece or at least one of the best things anime has seen. Just the amount of detail that went into art and animation alone makes it better than more than half of all anime that has aired in the last 10 years.

The only thing I didn't like about it was the lack of explanation regarding the lore. Yes, I understand that you could have read that information in booklets or some of the videogames that were made and due to the internet it's now easily available by just reading everything on the fanmade wiki but I still think it would have been a more interesting watch had they made certain things more clear in the show itself.

Also, I'm sure I don't even have to mention this but at this point Anno is just milking out the series to earn as much money from it as he still possibly can.


 No.4062

It was a product of its time - i think they call it "lightning in a bottle" like Star Wars or Blade Runner.

People were secretly eased into a successful deconstruction that also contained a (barely) functional narrative. That is a feat in of itself since its hard to make a movie with proper character arcs, let alone one with proper charcter arcs and a complete meta-narrative. But when you realize that Shinji is a stand out for second children you can't sequel absolute EVA04 with suicide original version; the narrative hedgehog dillema makes sexual undertones spear the field angel in the room of gauf thus mother complex is first impact


 No.4072

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>>4058

>whos your favorite character

>asuka because shes cute

reifags btfo


 No.4073

>>4072

ASUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKA-CHAN!


 No.4077

Hooktube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.

This is a TV special where Hideaki Anno goes back to the town where he grew up and teaches children from a local school a bit about animation.

What always stood out to me the most and is more proof that Shinji is basically Hideaki's self-insert character is the scene with his parents. Evangelion is a worldwide phenomenon and probably the most well-known anime in Japan itself. Most people don't really care about seasonal shows like some of us do but Evangelion is pretty much a mainstream thing and even the little children in this thing are familar with it even though you might say Evangelion is not really meant for elementary schoolers. In summary, Anno got worldwide fame and lots of awards for his work and is perhaps on the same level as Miyazaki in terms of popularity and the influence he had on anime.

Yet, in the scene with his parents they basically go all "yeah, he's an animator or something right? Yeah, he used to like to draw in the past". It's so fucking depressing to me, they even start focusing on the bad aspects of his personality instead of singing praises of everything he was able to archieve so far, things that most people would never be able to do even if they wanted.


 No.4093

How's the Evangelion manga? I heard it goes in a completely different direction from the anime towards the end.


 No.4107

I never loved either of the two girls particularly much, but I always preferred Rei. Recently, I'm liking Asuka more and more, and I predict that in the future I will prefer Asuka. This is coincident with a shift in my thoughts about 3D women towards taking them less seriously. Has anyone else had a Rei/Asuka preference change precipitated specifically by changing attitudes to 3D?


 No.4109

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>>4093

I actually read the mango before i watched the show

i dropped it when toji died

>>4107

i always prefered asuka


 No.4111

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>>4106

>tfw no equally autistic senpai to be the reason for not killing yourself

Back to the topic of his childhood, I read on his official website that he didn't really study during HS and wasn't even planning on getting in college/university and only did so on request of his parents. That must have been hard for someone living in a country where it's expected of students to focus on school 24/7 to prepare them for a life of wageslavery, where the concept of "laziness" or lack of motivation barely exists because it would make their entire hivemind system come crashing down. That probably played a large role in his parents' attitude towards him.

>>4107

What's the appeal of Rei anyway? She barely speaks in the show and doesn't have any personality to speak of.


 No.4114

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>>4111

https://web.archive.org/web/20160614020904/http://khara.co.jp/hideakianno/personal-biography.html

The original page for this seems to be taken down for some reason.

>In 1976, he was accepted into Yamaguchi Prefectural Ube High School. While the school was famous for being an elite stepping stone toward passing the entrance exams of prestigious universities, during entrance ceremonies Anno decided not to pursue further studies, feeling they were a waste of time. In the art club, he devoted his efforts toward manga, anime, and tokusatsu, and as a member of the astronomy group of the school earth science club, he would scrutinize the stars in the heavens. But at the same time, he would spendan inordinate amount of time playing mahjong with his friends.

>The fluctuations in his test scores, ranging between 8 and 98 percent, reflected the degreeto which he was interested in the subject being taught, which resulted in the school faculty flagging him as a problem child. One particular subjectthat Anno excelled in flunking at was English, a state of affairs that began when he rebelled against his English teacher during his first year in junior high school. But thanks to a makeup exam where the answers were given out prior to the test, he was able to graduate with no questions asked. As it so happens, Japan's university entrance exam system was completely revamped the year Anno was set to apply, and the then-new National Standardized Primary Examinations for College Entrance were established. English was a required subject in the exams, and as a result, Anno's enthusiasm for the university entrance exams evaporated and his interest in studying waned even further.

>He hardly studied at all in the one-year period after he flunked his college entrance exam, a time in which he was supposed to be studying to retake it the following year. Instead, he worked part-time making morning and evening newspaper deliveries, played mahjong, religiously recorded episodes of Mobile Suit Gundam as it was first broadcast, and engaged in other manga- and anime-related activities day in and day out. Eventually, his parents and his former high school– which was desperate to not have its alumni acceptance percentage lowered – begged him to pursue a university education, and thus Anno finally resolved to study and prepare for the entrance exams. But then, leafing through the numerous university brochures he had gathered aimlessly, he noticed one college, the private Osaka University of Arts, was willing to approve applications based not on scholastic test scores, but rather on successful display of required skills. Furthermore, upon learning that acceptance into the Department of Visual Concept Planning was (at the time) based on providing original continuity sheets (a detailed form of storyboards), Anno's mind was put at ease, so he went back to goofing around.


 No.4117

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>>4114

He sounds like a cool guy tbh


 No.4136

>>4118

mumei s2 when?


 No.4137

>>4136

We wish.


 No.4209

>>4111

>What's the appeal of Rei anyway? She barely speaks in the show and doesn't have any personality to speak of.

That she's not Asuka.


 No.4210

>>4209

i think the Mogudan doujinshis helpt Rei gain more traction


 No.4217

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>>4058

Speaking of the movies, I suppose it's both a dumb question and a moot point at that when one can generally just download whatever shows they want dubbed or subbed if they're savvy enough, but are the movies being pushed (morseo by the rights holders than fans) as the "modern" or "proper" way to watch Evangelion compared to the original TV series or something? Just wondering since from what I've seen (looking for games at multimedia places, sometimes I drift into the anime shelves), the prior DVD prints are pretty fucking expensive (the original run is at $70+ for a set or $13 for individual volumes, and last I saw a Platinum set around it got bought at $130) yet I don't recall hearing about it having been picked up for a compilation reprint/bluray release here (Japan apparently did get a bluray set though). Thus, the Rebuild movies are effectively the only reasonably affordable way to own the series in some format on disc (officially anyhow; seen some cheap apparent bootleg same-case DVD compilations around). I mean, I know Funi seems to have rights to dub/print the Rebuild movies here, but what exactly is preventing the original run from getting another print at present too? I know not every series gets the rights bought up due to low interest when the prior distributor goes belly up (or even do anything other than sit on the rights for years as the case sometimes is), or internal issues can cause an active one to lose their claim at the license (like Aniplex refusing to allow Funi renew the western rights for either Fullmetal Alchemist anime), but I'd think that a series like Evangelion would see continued distribution over the years as a whole, given its reputation even here in the west. Because clearly there's demand that could be sated when preowned prices of the older prints are that high, and yet that hasn't happened for over a decade now.

As mentioned above I suppose it doesn't matter much with the nature of the internet, but it's something that's been in the back of my mind for a while. Does no one own the rights to the original series here anymore in the west? Do they, but opt to do nothing with it, and if so, why?


 No.4223

>>4217

As far as I know, no one owns the rights in the US/Europe right now. However, I also haven't seen any advocacy for the rebuilds as the 'proper' version that wasn't immediately called out as bullshit. The thing you have to realize is that most idiot casuals just stream from kissanime/animegogo which don't care whether the series was licensed or not. If you're willing to use MAL numbers as a somewhat objective measure, the original TV eva is still more than twice as popular as any of the rebuilds.


 No.4226

>>4223

I suppose. I mean, I can get that Funi obviously wants to get sales on what they own the rights to here (Rebuild) and thus those are easier and cheaper to find, so if they owned the rights to both I could at least see the originals being reprinted further down the line after the films have had their day in the light (and thus easier availability would make newcomers gravitate towards what they can find). But I find it baffling that no one currently owns it out here anymore. If much more underwatched stuff can still get bought up during closures and such (albeit at a cheap price, I suppose), I don't see why a massively popular work like TV era Evangelion would be allowed to go to the grave with ADV. Would the money involved at that point, after having established itself in the west, have been just too huge for most companies at that time? Did Anno or someone else involved decline to allow it to be renewed after ADVs closure or something? Just seems a waste to me, but then again, internet tends to have everything, and I suppose if no western companies own the rights as of now, there's less validity towards someone bitching about potential profits being infringed on (aside from reseller profits).


 No.4823

>>4048

I have an undying hatred for NGE, if I could write moonrunes back in the 90s I would have been one of the people sending Anno nasty letters.

The whole series even up to Rebuild is masterful buildup for the most irredeemable fuckups and copouts in payoff I've seen. But that's not the worst part, the worst is that the fucking charlatan adornes his atrocious fuckups with vague pseudo-profound bachelor psychology bullshit so all the pretentious hipsters end up sucking his cock for ruining what could have been an amazing series.

Anno deserves nothing but infamy as an incompetent man who consistently spends the whole race in first place only to faceplant two steps away from the finish line. He is the patron saint of blue balls, the frustration he brought to my life has earned him my eternal scorn.


 No.4921

>>4823

>the worst is that the fucking charlatan adornes his atrocious fuckups with vague pseudo-profound bachelor psychology bullshit

But Anno himself said that a lot of aspects of the struggles the characters go through are influenced by psychology and most characters are pretty much human forms of certain personality disorders. There's also things that are extremely obvious like the Evas being symbolic for the womb because Shinji longs for a mother figure in his life that can protect him for the dangers of the outside world which have hurt him so much.


 No.4948

>>4921

>*slurp* *slurp* *slurp*

And? None of that shit means or contributes anything, you're just confirming what I said.


 No.4952

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>>4948

>*slurp* *slurp* *slurp*

What? What the fuck does that even mean?

>None of that shit means or contributes anything

I have no idea how you can contribute to an anime you didn't make but I'm pretty sure those people talking about psychology-influenced stuff in the show are in fact looking for meaning.




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