/a/ - Animu & Mango

The insurance fraud 'tragedy' is going just as planned, I see.

>>944987

Not even the Titanic got a gofundme.

>>945003

Anon I think that's a joke.

>>945011

I don't think I'd donate even if it was a studio that I liked. Maybe I'd think about it if it was some underdog small studio that explicitly needed the money for something, but Kyoani is not only a big studio, they're not even in danger of closure.

>>945011

Why donate? Money can't bring back the dead, as for the property damage there's fire insurance.

>>945016

>just give them money that will do nothing because just because

>>945374

Why should anyone give this corporation money when they have literally billions of dollars worth of yen? Why should wage-slaves be moralfag’d into giving away their money?

>>945381

*billions of yen

>>945381

If you're a wageslave, you're already halfway parted with your money. Might as well give it to someone worthwhile for a change.

>>944973

>KyoAni President says they will continue to make anime.

With their best director, animator, and colourist dead and only hacks like Ishidate surviving what's the point?

>>945774

They retrain them.

Yasuhiro Takemoto is confirmed dead.

When will Yamakan finally take the reigns of KyoAni and usher us to a new golden age of anime?

>>944973

Does the money from the gofundme go towards the family’s of those killed, or is it just going towards Kyoani itself? If it’s going towards the company that forced people to work in that death trap then that’s fucking disgusting.

>>945889

>We will continue working with KyoAni’s appointed representative

Basically the money gets sent to the company itself and some executives distributes the money.

I'm sure millions of redditors are already giving them tons of money and this anon is right >>945017, I don't see the point of even donating money to a company that swims in cash yet didn't even bother to hire a security guard to watch the building's entrance.

The only reasonable excuse I keep hearing is money for the families but even that should be paid by kyoani, not the fanbase.

It's funny how people go "omg such tragedy, poor kyoani, take my money!" and forget that all those people were working in a building that may have looked pretty but didn't have emergency exits, emergency stairs, extinguishers and from the way people reacted, didn't even do fire drills.

If anything, people should feel bad for the animators and their families while shitting on the company that didn't bother to take enough safety measures to not let them die.

So what about the perp? Is he getting death penalty? Are we going to bust him out and then execute him on camera for great justice?

>>945909

>yet didn't even bother to hire a security guard to watch the building's entrance.

It was normally controlled-entry. You needed a passcard. They left it unlocked that day because they had a meeting with people from the NHK.

>>945918

>Is he getting death penalty?

Definitely.

>prosecutors seek the death penalty almost systematically in cases of multiple homicide, and it is handed down in 59% of cases of double-murder and 79% of cases where three or more victims have been killed.

On top of that, prior criminal records, impact on Japanese society, and the manner of killing are all factors that make execution more likely.

As for before he gets hanged:

>the typical stay on death row is between five and seven years

>Inmates are held in solitary confinement and are forbidden to communicate with their fellows. They are permitted two periods of exercise a week, are not allowed televisions and may only possess three books. Prisoners are not allowed to exercise within their own cells.

>>945969

Unironically, don't let the bastards grind you down.

>>945944

>just 3 books

>no workout outside the 2 weekly periods

>no communication whatsover

>this for at least 5 years before getting hanged like a nigger

This is so intentionally hellish, but goddamn he did earn this much.

>>945944

Fucker deserves someone checking in on him RNG like when he sleeps every night.

>>945882

If he wasn't so volatile, people would like to work with him and give him budget. He's such a tragic character. He's a man who if you give him as much budget as he needed, he'd make the greatest anime, he has that talent.

But nobody wants to work with him. Nobody wants to fund him. He's a sad, detested artist that will die before he leaves his rightful mark on the world.

>>946087

At a guess the long delay before execution might be intended as a period of hell on earth. More generally though I suspect it's a hedge against wrong conviction since killing the wrong person is by far the biggest problem with capital punishment, even if I feel some are deserving of it. This sure is one.

>>945909

It had fire escapes actually. Not a lot of use against a planned attacker though because, who would really think to design against that? Such happenings are non-existent in Japan.

>>946087

This might be a controversial opinion, but nobody deserves that.

If they're certain he did it, they should just kill him quickly and efficiently.

If they're not certain he did it, they shouldn't be intentionally torturing him.

>>946087

The Japanese death row is also infamous for only informing inmates of their execution on the day of, so they wake up each day not even knowing if it's their last or not.

>>946247

From what I heard the fire escapes had inward doors so they were still fucked from the get go. The company didn't take safety precautions to account in a highly flammable area so they deserve more shit for that.

>>946247

>More generally though I suspect it's a hedge against wrong conviction

Japan's legal system is kind of fucked. Wrongful convictions aren't something they really worry about since most convictions are based on confessions. The problem is those confessions tend to come after long periods spent in detention cells without access to legal counsel and little oversight of interrogation methods. And given certain attitudes Japanese culture can take towards guilt, blame, and authority, false confessions are a distinct possibility.

The appeals process, which does cause the years of delays, seems to mostly be about appealing the sentence, not the conviction.

>>946278

He didn't kill his victims "quickly and efficiently". They should just light him on fire and let him die on a hospital bed in unspeakable pain if you want anything remotely close to justice.

>>946402

There's no need to resort to senseless brutality out of anger. Magnanimity is a sign of strength and discipline. Putting him down quietly and relatively humanely is all that's needed.

>>946404

>Putting him down quietly and relatively humanely is all that's needed.

Only a fucking pussy answers brutality with magnanimity. It should be answered in kind and in tenfold.

>>946406

Acting like the psycho that you're trying to punish isn't painting you in the best light.

>>946410

The best way to prevent further tragedies is to make people fear committing them. The soft approach we use in the modern day world does not work. The only thing psychos understand is violence and so that must be the language we speak to them.

>>946416

Any death sentence is going to do that for anyone with a modicum of sanity, and those for whom it doesn't work are so far gone that nothing you do is going to work anyway.

>>946419

It's enough to be suicidal, which quite a lot of people are. It's way easier to accept having to die than having to suffer years and years of torture, although I don't exactly agree that solitary, where you even get to bring books, is such horrid torture.

>>946416

Do you think the kind of person who burns down a building full of people because of an autistic abbreviation for train photography is likely to carry out a cost-benefit analysis before doing so?

There's no ethical system in the world which lists cruelty as a virtue.

>>946419

Prison alone is enough to dissuade sane people most of the time, you have to go further for psychos.

>>946423

Justice is not cruelty.

>>946423

>Do you think the kind of person who burns down a building full of people because of an autistic abbreviation for train photography is likely to carry out a cost-benefit analysis before doing so?

That Barisaku/train guy was innocent. He was still making tweets while the true perpetrator was captured.

>>946426

Oh, do we know the motive for the guy who did it?

>>946425

And burning him would dissuade him? If you didn't notice, he already lit himself on fire in the process. That's why he's in hospital right now instead of a cell.

>>946427

> for the guy who did it?

Depends who you're referring to but my guess is as good as your regular Jap newspaper.

>>946427

Claims of plagiarizing a LN he submitted, it seems.

He was under sedation for days after the attack because of his injuries, so police couldn't interview him right away. I would think they have by now, but I don't think they're releasing much to the public.

>>946425

Even if we assume that insane people can be deterred by sufficient cruelty, it would only deter them from being caught alive. If you're killing a bunch of people it's not that difficult to arrange your own death at the same time.

This guy certainly didn't seem to care about himself.

>>946278

Way to many people are focused on revenge, while it's more important to avoid people getting to a point doing something like this in the first place. Also preventing them from being successful. I don't care much what happens to him. Nothing will bring those people back or make others not suffering. Anger is a pointless emotion here.

>>946431

This unfortunately, when you consider the mass-shooters that end with suicide because they're so far gone and just want to go out with a bang, or the suicide bombers who think they're serving some higher cause and think themselves are worth throwing away to.

>>946416

They should livestream the hanging. This sort of person isn't dissuaded by theoreticals, they have to actually see the consequences with their own eyes if it's to instill any primal fear whatsoever. Hangings used to be carried out in public in the town square in front of everyone for a reason.

Have you guys seen how short the building was that burned down? It was just two stories tall. They should have just yelled banzai and leaped out together and survived with broken legs.

>>947050

As has been repeatedly said, they were trying to get to the roof. They probably hoped that if they could get there, into the open air, they'd be safe enough until the fire trucks came. Sounds better than ruining your legs jumping, until you get stuck behind the door.

>>947027

>>946416

That is, if a death sentence or the fear of death is enough to dissuade someone from commiting a crime. Did the attacker care if he lived or died? Seems to me like he went in expecting to die. If anything, I would think that knowing you will be put to death just makes you more willing to cause more damage during the actual crime. Maybe that isn't true, I have no idea. Plenty of mass killers in the US end up killing themselves rather than facing justice. I don't know if the numbers change much in countries with no death penalty.

What interests me more is how this dude managed to get to the studio with the gasoline. Some early reports said he had like 40 liters (10 US gallons or so?). That's a lot of weight and size to be transporting around. He would have needed a big bag or something to carry it. Did he take a bus or train? Gasoline has a distinct smell, and surely he reeked of it. How did no one notice some fat fuck on a train/bus with a huge bag that stank like gas?

Not to blame the victims or shame anyone, I guess. Just a reminder that a small amount of vigilance could have saved 35 lives. There's nutjobs everywhere, and we should all be on the lookout for them.

>>947174

Didn't you see the video with the surveillance footage? He had a little hand cart and gas canisters in their original cardboard packaging. He'd look like he was just going about his business.

Per ANN, police have released the names of ten victims.

>Jun'ichi Uda

Uda was 34 years old. He worked as an in-between animator on all of the works in the Love, Chunibyo & Other Delusions! franchise, as well as on K-ON!, several works in the Free! - Iwatobi Swim Club franchise, A Silent Voice, Tamako Market, The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya, Nichijou, HYOUKA, Liz and the Blue Bird, and most recently, Sound! Euphonium The Movie - Our Promise: A Brand New Day.

>Yūki Ōmura

Ōmura was 23 years old. In 2016, Ōmura was awarded with an Honorable Mention Award at the 101st Nikaten Design Category. At the time, he was a second-year student at Tohoka University. Tohoka University posted a statement on Friday confirming that a graduate of the school's modeling program died in the fire. Ōmura graduated from the university in March.

>Yuka Kasama

Kasama was 22 years old. NHK reports that according to a woman in Kasama's neighborhood, Kasama loved to draw as a child, and from high school wanted to study art at university. Another woman in the neighborhood told NHK she heard from Kasama's mother that Kasama's dream was to enter the animation industry. Kasama was a graduate of Osaka Seikei University. fuck

>Yoshiji Kigami

Kigami was 61 years old. Kigami also worked in the animation industry under the names Fumio Tada and Ichirou Miyoshi. In his long career he worked on dozens of anime as an in-between animator, key animator, character designer, storyboarder, animation director, and director. His director credits include Munto, Munto 2: Beyond the Walls of Time, Shin Dosei Jidai: Hawaiian Breeze, Last War of Heavenloids and Akutoloids, Sora o Miageru Shōjo no Hitomi ni Utsuru Sekai, and Baja no Studio. Much of his work for Kyoto Animation is credited under the name of Ichirou Miyoshi, including his work as an episode director on Violet Evergarden, Tamako Market, Sound! Euphonium both seasons, K-ON!! second season, Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid, Myriad Colors Phantom World, Nichijou - My Ordinary Life, Beyond the Boundary, Clannad, Clannad After Story, Lucky Star, Love, Chunibyo & Other Delusions!, and Free! - Iwatobi Swim Club. Outside of Kyoto Animation he was a key animator on Grave of the Fireflies and Akira, and worked on many Doraemon and Crayon Shin-chan films.

>Ami Kuriki

Kuriki was 30 years old. She was a key animator who worked on many of Kyoto Animation's recent works, including Violet Evergarden, Liz and the Blue Bird, Free! Dive to the Future, Free! -Take Your Marks-, High Speed! -Free! Starting Days-, Sound! Euphonium 2, A Silent Voice, Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid, Love, Chunibyo and Other Delusions! Take On Me, Myriad Colors Phantom World, Tsurune: Kazemai Kōkō Kyūdō-bu, and most recently, Sound! Euphonium The Movie - Our Promise: A Brand New Day.

>>948183

>Yasuhiro Takemoto

Takemoto was 47 years old. Takemoto directed both the Lucky Star TV anime and the Lucky Star OAV, and was also the director of Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid, The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya, The Melancholy of Haruhi-chan Suzumiya, HYOUKA, Full Metal Panic! The Second Raid TV, Full Metal Panic! The Second Raid OAV, Full Metal Panic? Fumoffu, Amagi Brilliant Park, High Speed! -Free! Starting Days-, and Nyorōn Churuya-san. Takemoto also served as an episode director on such anime as The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, Sound! Euphonium, Tamako Market, Violet Evergarden, Tsurune: Kazemai Kōkō Kyūdō-bu, Nichijou - My Ordinary Life, Myriad Colors Phantom World, Love, Chunibyo & Other Delusions!, K-ON!! second season, Clannad, Free! - Iwatobi Swim Club, Free! Dive to the Future, and Haré+Guu, among many others. He also worked as a storyboarder, key animator, unit director, and scriptwriter.

>Sachie Tsuda

Tsuda was 41 years old. She worked in painting, finishing, clean-up animation, and special effects. She worked on such anime as Lucky Star TV, Lucky Star OAV, Clannad, Clannad After Story The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, K-ON! (both seasons), HYOUKA, Nichijou - My Ordinary Life, Tamako Market, A Silent Voice, To Heart, Violet Evergarden, Tsurune: Kazemai Kōkō Kyūdō-bu, Free! - Iwatobi Swim Club, Free! Dive to the Future, Free! -Take Your Marks-, Free! Eternal Summer, The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya, Liz and the Blue Bird, and most recently, Sound! Euphonium The Movie - Our Promise: A Brand New Day. She also worked on several Crayon Shin-chan and Doraemon films, as well as Kiddy Grade, Inuyasha, Pokemon 3 - The Movie, and Full Metal Panic! The Second Raid, among many other works.

>Futoshi Nishiya

Nishiya was 37 years old. He was the character designer for the Free! franchise, and he also served as chief animation director for many of the franchise's installments. He also served as the character designer for the HYOUKA, Nichijou - My Ordinary Life, A Silent Voice, Liz and the Blue Bird, and The Melancholy of Haruhi-chan Suzumiya anime. He was also an animation director on many of Kyoto Animation's works, including Clannad, K-ON! (both seasons), Sound! Euphonium (both seasons), The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, Lucky Star, Love, Chunibyo & Other Delusions!, and Beyond the Boundary -I'LL BE HERE- Future, among others. He also worked as a key animator.

>Keisuke Yokota

Yokota was 34 years old. He worked as a production manager at Kyoto Animation, for such anime as Clannad, Clannad After Story, K-ON!, HYOUKA, Love, Chunibyo & Other Delusions!, Love, Chunibyo & Other Delusions! -Heart Throb-, Love, Chunibyo and Other Delusions! Take On Me, Sound! Euphonium, A Silent Voice, Tamako Market, Violet Evergarden, Tsurune: Kazemai Kōkō Kyūdō-bu, Free! - Iwatobi Swim Club, Free! Dive to the Future, Free! Eternal Summer, High Speed! -Free! Starting Days-, Gekijō-ban Hibike! Euphonium: Todoketai Melody, Beyond the Boundary, and Beyond the Boundary -I'LL BE HERE- Future, among others.

>Mikiko Watanabe

Watanabe was 35 years old. She worked as a background artist and an art director. She served as an art director on such anime as Violet Evergarden, Beyond the Boundary, Beyond the Boundary -I'LL BE HERE- Future, Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid, Myriad Colors Phantom World, and Amagi Brilliant Park. She also provided background art for such anime as Nichijou - My Ordinary Life, K-ON! (both seasons), Free! - Iwatobi Swim Club, Free! Dive to the Future, Free! -Take Your Marks-, High Speed! -Free! Starting Days-, Liz and the Blue Bird, Love, Chunibyo & Other Delusions!, Love, Chunibyo & Other Delusions! -Heart Throb-, Love, Chunibyo and Other Delusions! Take On Me, Love, Chunibyo, & Other Delusions: Rikka Takanashi Version, and Chūnibyō demo Koi ga Shitai! Lite, among others.

>>948183

>>948184

I was dreading the time when names will finally be released, and rightfully so.

So much good, undone. Rest in pieces.

>>946376

>little oversight of interrogation methods.

Your comment is outdated. Japan recently passed a law that requires the filming of the interogation for serious crimes. That's one of the main things that caused the acquittal of the perpetrator in a recent high profile rape case.

>>946416

The best way to avoide further tragedies is to make all escape route doors open outwards.

Your solution doesn't really prevent much in practice since if you were to add torture to the death penalty, they will just kill themselves after the deed to prevent getting caugh alive.

>>948185

Or that bookworm isekai where she lands her dreamjob just to get squished by a bookshelf during an mild tremor.

Drug dealers.