/a/ - Animu & Mango

I knew they would bastardize this like other shonen jump series.

>Bing bing wahoo

You were doing so well.

Normalfags has colonized BnHA and Jojo. Beware.

>>868586

Jojo was always a meme.

>>868586

BnHA is the new Naruto for normalfags.

How many pages did we used to get? Why are we getting such low amount of pages?

>>868592

>There was never a time when Jojo was accepted by anons

I enjoyed Jojo, sure it’s lost some of its luster now that you’re average mouthbreathing Normalfag is award of it. But luckily we’re moving into the least Normalfag friendly parts. Expect part five and six to be the point of no return for John and Jane Normalfag. then expect the cancer to return for part seven

What is it with this sour grapes mentality of “it became popular, so now it’s shit.”?

I thought you guys prided yourselves on being better than /v/?

>>868638

Does it even matter? It's not like the plot would go anywhere either with 20 weekly pages.

>Chapter bookends with Shouto and Iida

I guess they're going to job seeing as how Momo and Ibara were the cliffhangers for their respective chapters.

>>868772

>most of the negativism towards this series stems from cuckchan.

It also doesn't help that the series is generic shonen garage.

>>868772

This is only a valid point against shitposting retards that only memespew and vomit buzzwords when confronted. If you throw that spastic claim against someone using any of the multiple arguments against the quality of this series, then you are the faggot here

>>868787

Too bad that most of the criticism directed towards this series is the former. Whenever there is valid criticism fan tent to agree or just overlook said thin because thats not why they enjoy it.

The majority arguments that arise are from memesper and vomit buzzwords retards that "are either incredibly stupid or are merely pretending that they misinterpret everything in this manga", when there is valid criticism people mostly go "yeah, true" and there is no autism around it. Like everyone agrees Hori should improve his fights or that we dont know what exact direction things are going now and that Hori tends to choose the safe choice. But for instance last chapter's complaints about Momo and Kendou's comment are retarded, or the Overhual arc, god the more and more I argue about the Overhaul arc the more I think it was fucking great and in the top 3 arcs at this point in my opinion.

>>868790

I swear anon, you spend more time complaining about posts on cuckchan than you do discussing the series.

At least the mystery of OFA is slowly unraveling. SHAME THAT THERE’S YET ANOTHER HIATUS.

>>868772

>stop disliking what I like!

>>869186

>Cuckchan crossposting

>>869231

What happen to this place? It used to be a good place to talk about it

>>868772

So ignore the people shitting on the series and discuss it? Or you know, not let a group of people dictacte what you should like? Seriously, this isn't rocket science.

http://operationrainfall.com/2018/10/14/my-hero-academia-two-heroes-earns-5-7m-at-the-box-office/

https://archive.fo/VOsoA

>The new My Hero Academia movie just ended its theatrical run in North America. After 17 days of being screened in 556 theaters across the United States and Canada, the film managed to earn $5,768,366 at the box office. When My Hero Academia: Two Heroes opened, it managed to be the 23rd highest grossing domestic anime film of all time. However the film managed to climb it’s way up to the number 10 spot by the end of the North American theatrical run which is quite impressive.

>>871145

It was posted the day part 5's anime was confirmed. Taking away its "hype" and street cred, and time as the king.

Its playful jabs between series. Like calling someone's waifu shit.

>Like calling someone's waifu shit.

>Dude I poisoned your dog, JUST A PRANK BRO!

>>871103

>>871145

>>871156

I was at Comic-Con in Australia for business, there was a panel called, "An introduction to JoJo". It claimed to explain the community memes, fanwork and the series itself. Fucking disgusting.

Sage because MHA has gone to shit and this thread is spiralling thanks to a shitty OP who didn't bother to banepost.

>Tfw even after the contrarian hipsters turned on it because its not their secret anymore You Say Run is still the most goddamn blood pumping track since gasgasgas from Initial D

So there was this anon who wanted his Deku figurine but can't get it, and here comes some friend of his or something saying "how can you like MHA but you hate Naruto? they are literally the same thing!" I argue about the characters and motivations and then the anon goes "but they are the same shonen formula and all both characters just wanna be the best and they have the hots for their rivals" in which I find more differences by virtue of one of them not becoming a villain, much less a gary stu villain, the mc not being hyper proficient at everything they do, etc.

Seriously, I know shonen is formulaic but still.

>>871694

Your point?

>>871694

BNHA essential is the new Naruto, you fucking faggot.

>>871802

It's way worse, though. Naruto was almost not-that-bad if you omit the ridiculously long and full of asspulls final battle. Yes, even the edge was bearable.

>>871822

Naruto had no likeable characters, worse art and worse writing. And a worse fandom.

>>871794

Some people just can't stand people liking one while despising the other.

>>871863

I agree but maybe being popular is enough for it to be hated, I don't know, I just didn't like the way it went after the chuunin exam, I was never a fan of Sasuke.

>>871103

JoJo is it's own brand of shit.

It was never good.

>>868790

>Like everyone agrees

NO.

>>871915

I was never a fan of shonen but this one picked my interest, I mostly watch the anime though, but still, what is so bad about this one?

>>871916

>the whole "don't use the same methods as criminals or you're criminals" bullshit, for example.

>the race mixing

>same as other shounens, they never fight for real: no ball kicking, eye gouging, throat crushing or fish-hooking

But the real problem is that it has become quite boring since All Might lost all his powers and it became a shitty SoL instead of a not-so-bad shounen.

>>871929

Race mixing? aren't they all Japanese?

>>871822

Did you see the latest Boruto chapter where Boruto and Edge-kid waste a third of the chapter about where to take a piss and fight after they take a piss? Anime is a little bearable since they fill in gaps of logic that the manga doesn't include that makes things looks worse than they should be for the plot.

>>871929

Only Froppy and retard dog cop says stupid false equivalency shit like that,

and they aren't the focus.

Race mixing?

Its not really there outside of maybe the most minor of characters and the only visually Black looking character, Lock Rock, having a Japanese wife.

You're literrally autistic otherwise, and likely mixed, like a lot of people actually are, unless their lineage have had uninterrupted inbreeding for generations.

It is the nature of man to voyage to other places and thus encounter different people, it is also natural that there has always existed melting pot lands where each ethnic sector intersected, such as the mediterranean and the nile transit.

>>871929

Also rather telling that "racemixing" bothers you but not literal fags like Magna. Another undercover Malthusian faggot I see. Gay Nazi's are cancer, its no wonder sheizer porn was so popular in Germany.

>>871986

>likely mixed, like a lot of people actually are, unless their lineage have had uninterrupted inbreeding for generations.

Is it already time to pretend that humans having 1% neanderthal DNA in them is the exact same as a japanese-nigger happa?

>>871966

You are calling NPC anyone that doesn't share your opinion, like NPCs do by calling you a Nazi and stuff.

>>871986

>Only Froppy and retard dog cop says stupid false equivalency shit like that,

The whole manga is almost a manifesto against vigilantism, kid.

> Its not really there outside of maybe the most minor of characters and the only visually Black looking character, Lock Rock, having a Japanese wife.

And it's enough (and too much).

>You're literrally autistic otherwise, and likely mixed, like a lot of people actually are, unless their lineage have had uninterrupted inbreeding for generations.

>It is the nature of man to voyage to other places and thus encounter different people, it is also natural that there has always existed melting pot lands where each ethnic sector intersected, such as the mediterranean and the nile transit.

Now, the NPC spouting anon would be right about you, since you give the preprogrammed answer to rationalize degenerate whores mating with apes that never reached the stone age.

>>872030

>The whole manga is almost a manifesto against vigilantism, kid.

Meanwhile Vigilantes shows how necessary they are.

>>872039

Yeah, I know the side story, was okay (the MC is a little pathetic, though, only the old man has some charm).

>>872040

That's not true. Sure, the question isn't a closed case, but the teacher aren't portrayed as wrong when they lash against it. And everytime they do something "vigilante", they meekly bow their head during the talkdown and punition time.

Also, Stain did nothing wrong.

>>872028

>That looks like a parody of a coalburner than anything else.

Why bother parodying at all if that's the extent of the parody? Sounds like a terrible excuse. It's evidently not a parody as you're ignoring the positives to her situation whereas a parody should be magnifying the negatives to over-the-top extremes.

What should be a miserable existence is instead portrayed as a happy wife with a husband that thinks of her as a motivation. She is seen later in the series when she shows up to visit him in the hospital clearly devoted to him. Keep in mind her husband is a hero is apparently renown enough to work with Sir Night Eye aka All Might's ex-sidekick on an extremely sensitive mission. She is that hero's wife - why not a villain's wife? Or better yet, why include them at all? Where's the overwhelming negatives that makes this parody complete? Wide noses and fake hair color can't even be called the bare minimum of a coalburner depiction. This is evidently a positive portrayal of a racemixing couple in a popular shonen series.

>I dunno, is Deku, or bakugo? Last I check Japanese school boys dont have green hair and eye or blonde and red eyes.

Again, avoiding the obvious. You wouldn't even admit that calling All Might japanese is ridiculous yet he is japanese. This is yet another series where the japanese, of which All Might is one, can be adequately identified as westerners aka whites. More importantly, there is a clear and noticeable difference between nigger characters and non-nigger characters in this series. You didn't even stop to think that this is the first nigger character in the story.

The only people who have looked different so far are people that have been mutated in appearance by their quirks, and now niggers. Niggers clearly demonstrate the existence of other races. This nigger "hero" character has a "japanese" wife who looks as white as every other "japanese" character. There's not even wiggle room to interpret around this.

>>872179

The problem with the setting in this series is the structure of the society. With the appearance of the quirks, the world turned into a comic book land. People started to see others with quirks as higher status in the society. Including with the public opinions on it, a fantasy dream was created on this world. "You can become anyone" became a literal sense to the people. And with the spreading of this mutation without finding any solution left the government unable to keep this all checked. Vigilantes came and so developed into heroes society. Structures and laws were reformed. And then here came the worst part of it. This dreamland which the current society lives in, decided to give their "Heroes" the obligation of upholding criminal justice. They wanted their stars, their dreams become a reality. So the nanny state was created, every problem must be solved under the "licensed" heroes and the police. And that's not all, the cameras must show the entertainment, everyone watches it, the children, the adults and the elderly. But of course "tha ruuuulez" must be applied to prevent anyone else doing the "job". It's almost like when you see a burglary or someone being beaten by thugs, you don't start to help and solve the problem, you just calmly wait for the police and do nothing. As if the British police will do anything. The "pros" and the police will constantly remind everyone "You shouldn't do that, let the Big Brother do it". Of course, there are times which are suicidal to get involved, but the urge to help or save someone while there's no-one around can't be suppressed that easily. Just look at it, some bad guy with a quirk starts to rampage and everyone else goes "Oh noooo, I need a hero".

The problem with Stain and how some of the public liked him was insane. They became to know only about him through some short live video and thought "man, he looks cool" while being completely oblivious about him killing people. He's nothing but a murderer and yet people have high regards over him. That's how fucked up the society has become. It's Deku against the World.

>>872218

Good jump ignoring the rest of what a wrote.

And no, I'm all for killing when deserved, but the people who Stain killed were just ordinary people enabled by a shitty system(if we pretend what Stain thought was right). The same way if you spoil kids they become greedy little shits.

>>872210

The society is broken and All Might was just a giant band-aid.

From hero cocksucking to the fact that any basement dwelling autism who happened to be born with a good quirk can cause a catastrophe just because he woke up the wrong side of the bed. Not to mention how quirks themselves lead to all kinds of mental illness and suffering.

>>872178

>>this character looks like a stereotype

>>doesn't count because a nigger isn't beating his wife in the series

You're trying to have it both ways, trying to separate physical and statistical stereotypes and then later rely on both.

>>where my genes go :-DDD?

>>not a negative

You say that while downplaying the overwhelming evidence positive of a positive portrayal.

>>trying to put the meaning of parody on your own term

You were misusing the word parody.

>Not to fucking mention the nigger himself is a parody of a chain nigger with all the keys and fucking locks for earring.

That's once again the incorrect use of that word. You're now conflating the use of the word parody with stereotypical. This is beyond having a double standard, aka having it both ways.

>Next you will say trannies are portrayed in a positive because hey Tiger might be a tranny if you don't take it as a joke and he didn't do anything bad.

The manga says Tiger was once a woman and then wasn't after visiting thailand so yes Tiger is a tranny. And it can be a joke and a positive portrayal of a tranny. Tiger being a tranny doesn't exclude the character from being a joke.

>Chisaki should have popped the nigger so we wouldn't be having this stupid conversation. Oh yeah, the nigger lost to a japanese school girl. Nig-Nog has ridiculous written all over him, how you take all this seriously is beyond me.

You certainly aren't helping your case by downplaying everything that you don't approve and then act like your version of things is correct.

>Because its fucking anime style, niggers are always portrayed as niggers because niggers are incredibly distinct in the real world. Anime draws whites and asians the same way, this has almost always been the case, and niggers have always been distinct. All Might is suppose to look American, thats why he looks like the nip stereotype for americans (big, blonde, blue eyed and attractive)(how much its misguided is another issue). But All Might is Japanese, and Nips associate being Japanese with being a mongoloid, because they haven't let in hordes of non-nips in yet.

You're now contradicting the premise of your last post. You were side-stepping this and now admitted it. You essentially agreed, but on your own terms.

>And now for the point you avoided - this is fucking anime style, ever heard of anime hair? Because its not representative of reality. Jesus Christ did you discover anime yesterday? Is Bakugo white because he has blonde hair? Anime characters can have any hair and eye colour and stature and are still be nips because this is fucking fantasy. All Might looks American, because that what he is based off, but is born in nip and thus he is a mongoloid because of previously point. And if we look at the movie he most likely became a massive westaboo during his stay in America.

You're willing to concede on many issues but pretend that you're disproving them all so you can distract from the fact that there is a mixed race couple of a "japanese" white woman and black male.

>There are 2 non-nips in BNHA, one is Pony, who is said to be half-nip and lock-cock.

And which one looks white and which one doesn't?

>Cock sucking subhumans like who take shit too seriously are the bane of media and should be shot in the streets.

That would be you. You're barely capable of composing a thought at this point, so much so that your post at first glance looks like a giant shitpost because it mainly is - your subhuman writing. You made it this far pretending you delivered a comprehensive answer to my reply and had the audacity to pretend you post's point was being avoided when that was an answer to you avoiding the point from the start. All of this is in service to you trying to minimalize and distort the context: there is a positive portrayal of a mixed-race couple in my hero academia of a black "hero" and a white "japanese" woman.

This anime sucks if only because the "protagonist" has the shittiest power ever.

He literally has power levels that are gated by plot.

At least with Dragon Ball you know that Goku will come through and be the big guy he is, while Midoriya is a little fag that even when he goes "ULTIMATE SMASH PLUS ULTRA" he fails.

I don't even get why people get surprised he is so "strong", he isn't even superhuman: Hero Killer could fly around like a motherfucker without any quirk related to flying around like a motherfucker.

It's just an unlikable protagonist nobody can realistically related to, which is ironic since he's supposed to be the most "human" character, as his quirk was inherited rather than being born with it.

It would've been better if Midoriya actually had powers the likes of One Punch Man, as in even All Might couldn't use 100% of the power and had to control himself, that would've at least been some suspense like "Oh shit he might actually blow his arm up trying to save someone he likes" but no, Midoriya already blew his load and the worst thing is power can do is break his bones.

It's just so lame, watching this lame kid trying not to be as lame.

Could've gave him some mutation of the power, make something interesting, make the quirk adapt to Midoriya strategic inclinations... but no, he can kick people real good, that is all.

Then you look at characters like Bakugou, which can do the same shit except they also get to blow shit up or be invulnerable or other things.

I mean, what's even the point, I'd rather follow the story of Sugar Man: he basically has the same power except it's way more interesting.

>>872237

>What the fuck are you even talking about? The point is why would hori have a flashback where nig-nog goes "I was an asshole to you because I also beat my wife and im miserable"? Because the point is he was an asshole because he was trying to keep them safe the same way he cares about his family.

Are you imagining what you think you're reading but also arguing against it or even for it? It's legitimately unclear what you intended that to mean, and why.

>The evidence you are pointing to is that they are happy, whoopty-fucking-doo. Compared to everything I wrote your shit doesn't hold much weight.

What I wrote is an exact description of how they're depicted in both the image and their reappearance after the end of the arc. What you're doing is trying to take away from that so you can downplay how this series has a positive portrayal of a mixed race white-black couple.

>Parody doesn't exclude stereotype and in fact a large portion of parody is based on stereotype.

Then use that instead of conflating the two. Even in your words, "a large portion," and not one in the same where you can use them interchangeably and presume that one includes the other. Thus, you would still have to prove when and if a parody includes a stereotype.

>Except there is no solid confirmation. The going to Thailand to change your sex in itself is joke but also the fact that his previous design was female and he is a cross-dresser in a all female cast. Considering how much of it is reference and jokes I hardly believe hes an actual tranny. Plus the fact that Magne was a tranny and the mange bothered to show it where with Tiger there is 0 reference to it in the manga itself.

So Tiger isn't a tranny but it's pure coincidence that he fought Magne, a tranny? It's also extra coincidental that during the Forest Training arc when almost each chapter ended with an Extra Info page detailing training filler, it gave one just for Tiger where he's drawn as a man and mentions the trip to Thailand. Maybe the author could have saved energy and made Tiger un-ambiguously a guy that wears a dress so that way the joke would have been just that and no one would debate if he was tranny because he went to thailand and after that wasn't a woman. But that would be too simple.

>The rest of you points are saying I'm wrong but not why and how. Give an actual argument. Plus the second part is completely separate from the first. You were trying to make two arguments. That All Might is white and that race-mixing couple are portrayed positive.

Even you conceded on the point about anime characters being seen as white hence All Might being "white." The race-mixing couple being portrayed as positive is so obvious that only you could be trying to deny it, of which I already explained why - but you're ignoring it and instead offered a shitpost. Your game here is obvious. When someone replies with an argument, you shitpost and complain and then say you were not faced with an argument.

>But then when I give you evidence to the contrary you spout that I'm wrong but never why, thus you are the one ignoring what I said.

You never used evidence. Your last post of which I went point by point explaining how not only wrong it was but how it was mainly composed of shitposting and a bizarre display of agreeing but denying at the same time shows I didn't ignore anything. The real issue you have is that you think this works, to do any of that, but it doesn't. You actually have to argue on point and now that I pointed that out, you're sloppily trying to clean up your act and finding out you can't argue properly and resort back to shitposting.

>The argument you are trying to make is like saying a two faggots being in love but one is an extremely obnoxious flamboyant stereotype and has AIDS whiles the other has a crack-cocaine addiction and fucks little boys but they are both happy and love each other so its a positive portrayal of a homosexual relationship. Consider how much of a massive faggot you are you probably do.

This proves my point. You're unable to argue properly. You project what you're doing, hence accusing me of ignoring your argument, when in reality it's to cover up for the fact that I didn't and you don't accept that your argument was invalid - invalidated based on clearly visible evidence. In this case, you're trying to make the image from chapter 153 disappear, of a black hero character and his happy white "japanese" wife holding their child and derail from that.

Your poor analogy is another attempt at this, but also another sign you can't argue properly because your default position in a thread is to shitpost and insist everyone take your word at face value.

Can someone explain something to me....

How did Mirio actually defeat invisible girl (can't know where she is to attack her) and Kirishima (with his hardening, Mirios punches are as effective as taps)?

>>872241

>Let's make Deku even more super-special.

How about no? He's obnoxious enough as it is

>Goku is a good character

No, Goku is shit. His fights are shit with no suspense. It's just a shitty power-up race and a endless cylce of:

"Behold my rue power!"

"No, you behold my true power!"

"But my True Power is truer and more powerful!"

Repeat ad naseum.

>>872179

>This is the proof that Deku's mentality is worthy to be the successor whiles Mirio isn't.

No, Deku a shit.

>>872258

>After reading 200 chapters, he realizes this

It's garbage but consistently entertaining.

>>872226

That's the problem, you know. Heroes shouldn't be "regular" people, it should come with undisputable virtue and spiritual strength, not only superpowas.

>>872324

You have no point and he is wrongly entertaining your jewish-like "argumentation" with the same shit. There's nothing to say except that there's racemixing for no reason in this manga, and this is certainly not to mock the concept.

I usually don't want to fall in this kind of pit, but you're probably a nigger or a degenerate, since only this kind of beast can have no problem with this vomit inducing page and even defend it.

>>872258

The only goodstory was the setup, of Deku being powerless and meeting All Might. As soon as it became some school shit with him having super powers, it lost all value.

>>872371

Series would have honestly be better if Midoriya accepted that he does not have quirks, and decided to become a hero without them. Then it could be journey of him using his autistic knowledge of heroes, his wits, and tech to become a hero. He should have entered the academy as a support class student.

>>872389

You're actually right. I wouldn't mind him getting a Baki tier body and rip&tearing through actual heroes, too.

>>872389

>>872394

I thought it was going to be like that on the first episodes, what I didn't like mostly was the fact that he kept injuring himself every time he used his powers, then he learned to use the buffs and decided to break his arm instead of taking the kid and run at the speed of light.

>>872332

>She wore clothes.

But why though? He didn't wear his. She cannot use her power with clothes on.

>Punched faster than he could harden his stomach.

He already hardened himself before he attack started.

>>872343

>That's the problem, you know. Heroes shouldn't be "regular" people, it should come with undisputable virtue and spiritual strength, not only superpowas.

Except such people are a fantasy. No one is perfect.

>>872604

That's some hard projection.

>>872241

>This anime sucks if only because the "protagonist" has the shittiest power ever.

Honestly, I think the kid from the vigilantes spin-off has a more interesting power than deku.

>>873096

>Knuckleduster is still RIP

>>873255

>crossboarders are one person

>>873255

Was getting caught part of your plan?

Never watched or read this, should I now?

>>873531

Watch the first season and decide for yourself. Avoid any and every place on the internet "discussing" this series.

>>873531

Read the thread and then see if it's worth getting into.

>>873609

What the fuck is this screenshot? Is this from tumblr or some shit? Christ. At least have a source.

After a quick search, I'm finding heaps of posts stating the post is bullshit. Which it rightfully would be, because how the fuck are you going to forget such a big moment both in manga and the anime? What rubbish.

>>873609

that'sbullshittobutIberieveit.jpg

The traitor subplot went nowhere. The series' main story itself is on hold:

> league of villains in ruins after all for one got rekt

< they magically knew which police car was carrying the quirk destroying drug

> not-pain got beaten by midoriya's sage mode temporary power up

> aforementioned traitor subplot went nowhere

> himiko's collection of blood she hasn't used

>>873612

>big moment

>nobody remembers it because it happened three years ago

Text spoilers are out

>Iida gets a new move

>Enji talking about shouto in the 3rd person

Boku no exactly like the last fight

>>873739

Isn't there also that giant villain that Gran Torino mentioned at some point?

What's the worst thing that could happen?

https://archive.fo/n9Vvm

>Legendary[1] is producing a live-action feature film version of Shueisha’s Japanese manga franchise “My Hero Academia[2].”

>The company, a subsidiary of the China-based Wanda Group, made the announcement Wednesday and noted that the franchise, created by Kohei Horikoshi, has more than 17 million copies in circulation and was the 2017 winner of the Sugoi Japan Award for best manga. It’s also been adapted into an anime television series, which has aired for three seasons.

>“My Hero Academia” is set in a world in which 80% of humanity has developed some sort of special powers, known as quirks — not all of them super, and not all used for good — and focuses on a young boy who obsessively follows the new heroes while having no abilities of his own.

>The project will be produced by Legendary[3], with Alex Garcia and Jay Ashenfelter overseeing on behalf of the company, and Ryosuke Yoritomi in charge on behalf of Shueisha. Toho will distribute the film in Japan.

>Legendary’s upcoming titles include “Godzilla: King of the Monsters” and the live-action “Detective Pikachu” — which will both be released in 2019 — and “Godzilla vs. Kong,” which is in pre-production for a May 2020 release. Recent Legendary titles include “Skyscraper,” “Pacific Rim: Uprising,” “Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom,” “Kong: Skull Island,” and “The Great Wall.”

>>873908

>Recent Legendary titles include “Skyscraper,” “Pacific Rim: Uprising,” “Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom,” “Kong: Skull Island,” and “The Great Wall.”

So they're a trash factory like Hollywood?

>>868772

No, hunterchads are what HXH fags call themselves. They claim HXH is Patrician as fuck, but I have no idea if it is or not.

>>874077

ROCK LEE SHOULD'VE BEEN THE MC

>>871863

To be honest I disagree. Naruto's character design was top notch, the art was pretty good and the writing never devolved past a standart shonen, although it did betray its core ideals like all the others.

There are likeable characters, they just aren't the leads.

>>874084

This.

>>874084

>>874097

Ants were shit, delete yourself and then try to debate me. You won't be able to.

>>874117

Ants were shit until Meruem showed up. Or rather, the pre-Meruem part of the Ants arc was complete and utter garbage, it was so bad that it made think I had gotten trolled when anons told me that HxH was worth watching for the Chimera Ant arc alone. Some sort of "now you know our suffering, you're one of us, so go spread the misery" advanced trolling. Post Meruem was great, but it certainly wasn't enough to warrant sitting through 90 episodes which varied from unwatchable shit tier to at least Hisoka's in this episode tier.

>>874204

Nice shitpost.

>>874230

Off yourself.

OKAY I ADMIT IT

I SHIP A LITTLE BIT

just Moonfish x Tooru

imagine the offensive possibilities

>>874288

Oh, you were serious, let me laugh even harder.

I hear the movie's out, now. Can't find it in the places I usually find my shit. Any truth to that, or it is bullshit, or has it come out and not been dubbed yet, or what? Curious minds seek answers.

>>874830

>dubbed

*subbed, natch.

>>874830

Depending on where you live you can find subbed viewings in popular countries however they are shown less than dubbed viewings.I found a subbed viewing pretty easily in down under.

>>874867

Know if any are up for DL, yet?

>>874868

Doubt there will be a download until the blu ray comes out and I don't think most anons would want watch a camrip.

I wouldn't mind this arc so much if it wasn't so horribly fucking BORING. Not a single thing happening in the last 10 chapters has amounted to anything, it's nothing but fireworks and filler

>>874871

Nuts. Thank you, anyway.

>>874874

But, isn't it COOL how these characters get to show off their COOL powers!?

Reminds me of the Naruto tournament exam. At least there passing or failing meant something. This is a class exercise, nothing special about it. It's building towards nothing.

If Hori wants to do an arc like this, he should at least intersperse the students fighting with some other plot details that are actually advancing the story. Show us the league making moves. Or whatever Gigantomachia is up to. Or Gran Torino. Or ANYTHING.

New Vigilantes chapter is out. This is all very illegal.

>>874976

Especially when reading it illegally.

>>874944

>Or whatever Gigantomachia is up to.

Squeezing lolis for holy water, probably.

>check MHA again after losing interest

>power up arc with zero stakes

>told exclusively in flashbacks

>powerups are granted through extreme pain

And I'm only one the first page

>>875406

Why does he likes Bakugou so much? or why do people like Bakugou so much? Is this some sort of East-West thing?

>>875410

Probably because the MC is a bland and uninteresting goody-two-shoes.

>>875481

Bakugou is a bland and uninteresting angry guy

>>875410

>>875481

>>875485

We have had this discussion countless times now. And no, he is the most popular both in the East and West.

>>875410

I don't know, this series is conflicting to me. Since every time I want to shit talk an aspect, I'm reminded that technically Hori is doing stuff "correctly" or "good." But the problem is that his execution leaves me underwhelmed. Technically there's a lot right with the hideout raid arc, there's tons of themes with Mirio and Deku's parallel natures, and the consequences of both of those. Said themes add to the overarching narrative's themes, and story, but just.

Jesus christ, I don't care anymore, and am actually only tuning into these threads each week, to see if anything interesting is happening.

Maybe that's the biggest problem with this. It feels like the most stereotypically "good" shonen manga out there, especially at the moment. But it's not doing anything truly interesting, unique, or original. Just putting spins on and recombining old superhero tropes, from both the east and the west. And subverting expectations, but ultimately playing shit straight, can only get you so far.

>Todoroki is at the end of his rope as he considers his options --if he doesn't bother with regulating his fire and ice abilities then maybe --Deku's words that it's his powers echo in his mind and he tells his opponent to back off or they'll melt as his heat rises higher. Tetsutetsu knows it's crazy but in the time he has left he decides to attack Todoroki head on. Saying that "holding on is his specialty." Todoroki warns him that he'll get scorched, but Tetsutesu says that those who hold back during practice won't amount to much in the real deal. "This is all to surpass one's limits!!"

>Meanwhile Pony and Tentacle (forgot his actual name) are in combat and since Tetsutetsu isn't going to be able to back POny up she takes matters in her own hands ---horns and uses "Thunder Horn" to try and capture Tentacle in one shot. However he catches her horns, and Ojiro captures her from behind.

>Honenuki shows up behind them both at that moment, but the scene changes back to Tetsutetsu and Todoroki --Tetsu's burning up but won't let go and Todoroki realizes he's going to overheat if he cranks up any higher. He decides to go for it, but Honenuki melts the ground, and Todoroki is hit in the back by falling debris.

>Things look bad but Iida kicks Honenuki in the back before he can harden the ground again and saves Todoroki while running. Honneuki realizes he's gotta do this in one shot or his friends lose and he can't have that. He melts (or softens) a tower and drops it on Iida and Todoroki seemingly taking them down as he faints.

>End.

So it's unclear, but I'm still betting on Jobberoki so Hori can fellate Bakugou more.

>>876830

>mass jobbing again

>"bretty good"

>Cold Hotman getting hyped for several chapters

>gets trashed before doing anything interesting

??? What the fuck is wrong with this author?

>>876855

>What the fuck is wrong with this author?

Dying from shonen jump scheduling.

>Everyone incapacitated

>next chapter

>Sen just comes by and jails everyone

Gee this totally isn't predicatable at all

>>876838

>>876833

>>876844

>jobbing

Please go, learn what the fuck it means, then still stay back.

>>876864

>Jobber is a professional wrestling term used to describe a wrestler who is routinely defeated by main eventers, mid-carders, or low-carders. Most promoters do not use the term because of the negative connotation.

Bear in mind nobody from Class A has won anything past the tournament save for Bakugou

>>876864

Jobbing is when established characters lose to someone else solely to advance a plot or improve someone's standing, regardless of their real skill.

This is exactly what's happening here, with all the established heroes getting trashed just to showcase how super cool all these other faggots are.

>>876830

>>/mlp/

>>876805

Just how hot is Endevaours/Shoto's fire?

I'm tired of all the superheroes and superpowers without any real impact. No one gets hurt. No one dies regardless how powerful the attack.

>>876888

You don't read, do you...

>>876879

The fact that it would always come down to a 2-2 tie that Midoria would have break makes sense from a drama perspective. The problem is who they chose to job vs who Hori keeps pushing. The big sticking points for people this arc, I think, are having Momo lose again (the only time she's ever gotten to do anything positive was in anime filler, for god's sake) and seemingly having it happen to Todoroki and Iida too, which by default would mean that Bakugou, another divisive character seen as a creators pet to Hori, will win yet again at the expense of other characters who never get anything. Obviously it's not set in stone yet. Class A could pull out a win next week, which would probably do a lot to placate people since it would mean Bakugou would actually likely lose. Still, I wouldn't count on it. Honestly though Hori should have just shuffled the teams around so the same people didn't keep losing, but he could still have his precious dramatic 2-2 tie.

>>875611

Can't agree more. Many other people are having that problem. I think the main issue is that Hori is just following the Naruto formula to its limit. And to be fair, the Naruto formula is just the evolution of the shonen-comic formula, but Naruto combined many components that were seen in various shonen at that point. BNHA is simply following the Naruto formula so hopelessly that when it tries to make more of something from what superficial aspects make it distinct, it flounders about and fails to produce anything interesting.

Naruto is about a teenager who attends a ninja school and is an outcast because of the nature of his birth and learns to harness his dangerous unique power that was passed to him and along the way makes many friends including those who were former enemies & rivals. BNHA is about a teenager who attends a superhero school and is an outcast because of the nature of his birth and learns to harness his dangerous unique power that was passed to him and along the way makes friends including those who were former enemies & rivals. The only differences are how Hori downplayed some elements and lifted up others, but the premise is exactly the same. Some of the best aspects of BNHA are unique to the story, but the core of it is still trapped in the Naruto formula. Likewise, and evidently, both diverging from and overplaying parts of the formula has resulted in some of the weakest parts of the story.

What's simultaneously the strongest and weakest aspect of the series is the tone of it. Things that should feel exciting are underwhelming because they don't feel earned or are obligatory. This can be traced back to the double-edged sword of following a formula too dependently.

For example, much earlier in the series, midoriya won immediate respect from his class members and dispelled all doubt of his competency almost immediately. The Naruto formula calls for peers who look down on the naruto character as a dramatic device to fuel tension. Tension; rather, the lack thereof, is probably one of the biggest problems in the series. Almost all of the characters get along to an obscene degree.

Characters got over any personal issues almost immediately. Character motivations that stem from issues don't have payoff that ties into the main plot of the story. So there's no urgency or desire to see them shine or rise above anything because there's hardly any stakes involved. This is also an issue with having too many minor characters, which Naruto experimented with to varying degrees of success.

Overall, BNHA started off strong because it was a fresh take on the naruto formula and brought interesting ideas and setups. It's surprisingly safe to say that it basically resolved most of those things before it went anywhere. Hori could end the series here and basically everyone can picture how it ends. The only real question I have is when is the next time the naruto formula will get repeated, or if it's already been used up.

Surprisingly, I enjoyed this recent chapter. All of a sudden it seemed to have some stakes. This training arc has really sucked so far, and it's probably the lack of any real consequence to anything.

>>876927

>She won at the finals vs Aizawa

He let her win.

>literally drove the plot in the Kamino/Camp raid arcs

She got merc'd off camera and managed to put a tracker on the enemy. That's not driving the plot. The plot was about Bakugou, quite obviously.

>>876947

And they wouldn't have had the location of the Noumu warehouse if it wasn't for her. She drove a large part of the investigation. Thats literally driving the plot.

>He let her win.

All the teachers were holding back but they didn't let them win.

>>876946

>gets owned

>NO U

Dumb Gamergator

>>876927

>She won at the finals vs Aizawa, she literally drove the plot in the Kamino/Camp raid arcs and she got the biggest score in the license test.

Then she lost and all that shit got invalidated because she never truly improved.

>>876948

>All the teachers were holding back but they didn't let them win.

Recovery girl literally says it. Aizawa saw Momo's fuckup and decided to give her the win anyway because it would be better for her confidence. She won because he let her.

>people claim their emotional feelings are facts

>I say so, so it is

The mentality of cuckchan.

>>876933

>Naruto also had a problem that all of its issues were external and as a result characters felt nonsensical when it turns out they are actually all good deep down and do a 360.

That's part of the shonen formula that goes back to dragonball, and why I didn't bother to mention it.

>This isn't at all true with BNHA and the characters still deal with issues they had prior.

In what way? BNHA hasn't closed the door on the reformed/misunderstood villains cliche, wait for the magician guy to come back. And characters feeling conflicted is virtually nonexistent at this point.

>BNHA character are way more internal and have way more to them than meets the eye. Maybe its Kishimoto's fault all but dropping the side characters.

Despite all of the time given to the side characters, none of their personal goals or motivations possess weight.

>Momo, Bakugo, Shoto, Endeavor, Deku, Uraraka etc. still have issues that they struggle with.

They've overcome them at this point. Their arcs are already done in terms of personal development. Hori is merely dragging out their resolution.

>Iida was a driving force in the Stain arc and because of the prior evens of the story Shoto was also there to influence the outcome which was a turning point for the LoV.

The stain arc's only true payoff was to introduce new villains. Everything else returned to the status quo. You can claim lida learned a lesson but he acts exactly the same, before and after.

>Bakugo's raging autism and his interactions with Shoto lead to being a target which lead to the Kamino ward fight, him also have exact ideals also drove the fact that he would never side with villains, Kamino/Camp are a reflection of both Bakugo's positive and negative traits.

It did nothing for bakugo's character. Therefore him being an autistic target was incidental. Any other student could have been captured and the same goal could have been achieved. I want to give that credit and see it as a subversion of the rival becoming a villain cliche, but even if that was the intention the setup was still unnecessary and lead to no payoff for bakugo.

>Momo who prior was shamed over her lack of action gathered the resolve in herself to act and attach a tracker to the Noumu which in my previous point I said basically drove the plot.

It was such intense resolve that she only had to think quickly for 3 panels and it was about strategy, not inner conflict.

>Momo also didn't start out feeling inferior, in fact it was the opposite, she inherited because of her failing and Uraraka started out with a basic bitch goal in life in during the course of the story she acquired a feeling of inferiority to Deku and when she faced the shitshow of Yakuza raid and held a dying man in her hands she contemplated why she does heroics in the first place. The yakuza arc even shows effect on Kirishima and the frog, they are way more serious about what they do because they have seen what awaits them.

None of those examples have had weight on the main story. Momo's "struggles" have amounted to nothing but filler and even your example did not occur in result of struggles. Uraraka has been plot-pointless after the entrance exams. Kirishima and froppy are basically just there for the action.

>Yes, Hori does the Naruto formula. But he does it a thousand times better. Kishimoto scrapped his vision that was going to become something closer to BNHA for his flat main characters with no internal struggles whiles Hori almost exclusively dabbles in the internal.

The "internal" has had no impact on the story. I keep repeating this because even as you are trying to prove it to be better, it is clearly the opposite. In you trying to prove it, it is put to the test and fails. It is basically just used for filler. Case in point, the lack of story progression over 200 chapters that is noticeable when compared to other contemporary shonen - everyone notices this. The lack of payoff is the proverbial salt in the wound.

>You don't care about the drama of character and want to go to the meat of the shonen genre which is understandable and the story does initially lead you to believe that it will be all meat.

Actually, I want to care about the drama and the characters. I'm not against the components that Hori has assembled to do his take on the naruto formula. I even agree he does some things better, but they're only done better in concept. His execution is what's stifling the quality of the series. This series is at 200+ chapters. Should any series take that long before getting to the meat?

>At this point I can't tell you anything but that I hope that this build up does lead to something worth it.

I really hope so. My complaints with the series are stemming from tough love. I've been following this since the beginning and my interest declines with each month. I often find myself forgetting the names of midoriya's classmates, and have grown to accept that I just don't care. I wanted to, but the story doesn't help.

>>877022

The spinoff is better simply because the much smaller cast means these spastic arcs full of mutual jobbing and self-deflating hype cannot happen

>It did nothing for bakugo's character.

Bakugo was specifically targeted because of his massive sperg-out, something Shigaraki thought he could use to convince Bakugo to join the LoV, because Shiggy viewed him as a flat character. THis is a major plot point, how the fuck can you act as if this didn't matter? You are trying to nit-pick issues(that don't even exist most of the time) so you can just be dismissive. That what I get from you fags - dismissive, as if you don't like the series to begin with and just searching for a reason to justify your dislike.

>It was such intense resolve that she only had to think quickly for 3 panels and it was about strategy, not inner conflict.

It was about what she experienced prior and what she learned from being stomped the first time.

>None of those examples have had weight on the main story. Momo's "struggles" have amounted to nothing but filler and even your example did not occur in result of struggles. Uraraka has been plot-pointless after the entrance exams. Kirishima and froppy are basically just there for the action.

And not everything has to have bearing on the main plot. That doesn't make them bad. I'm just saying that other student's conflicts have had a effect on the plot.

>The "internal" has had no impact on the story. I keep repeating this because even as you are trying to prove it to be better, it is clearly the opposite. In you trying to prove it, it is put to the test and fails. It is basically just used for filler.

I already gave you example of of where characters have effected the plot with their side arcs. Even during the Yakuza Twice and Toga's attitude helped the result in the end we got. Something that Shigaraki was counting on because he didn't even told them to do it.

>Case in point, the lack of story progression over 200 chapters that is noticeable when compared to other contemporary shonen - everyone notices this.

You just said the story is moving slower.

>The lack of payoff is the proverbial salt in the wound.

It all on you. If you don't enjoy so far why stick around?

>Should any series take that long before getting to the meat?

I've personally enjoyed what happened so far. If you can't wait so high action then drop the series and come back after some time, clearly you are not enjoying it. I also want to see more progression but in no way is what we have gotten so far I would consider bad.

>His execution is what's stifling the quality of the series.

I keep seeing this non-argument. When somebody out argues you about something and shows you that its still good but you still don't want to like it you roll back into the "well the execution sucked". Most prominent with the Yakuza arc.

>I really hope so. My complaints with the series are stemming from tough love. I've been following this since the beginning and my interest declines with each month. I often find myself forgetting the names of midoriya's classmates, and have grown to accept that I just don't care. I wanted to, but the story doesn't help.

So you aren't enjoying it. You're probably burned out from short weekly updates.

>>877022

Don't oversell it, Vigilantes has been pretty fucking boring and has done nothing of note in forever, ever since Knuckleduster bowed out of the story. Now that Crawler seems to actually be growing his quirk into something notable and finding different ways to project force it's starting to get interesting again.

>>877052

>Vigilantes has been pretty fucking boring and has done nothing of note in forever

So it's exactly like Boku no Hero Academia?

>>876898

Maybe you don't?

100% OfA direct hits to the jaw, massive heat attacks, etc... nothing ever seems to kill ANYONE, even those that specifically don't have super-durability.

>>877071

Chisaki was a in kaiju form though its still seems rather bullshit but Tetsutetsu does have super durability, thats the whole point he was put against Shoto.

>Oh gosh, Deku!

>You need to be much more careful!

>We can't have you crippling yourself and sustaining life threatening injuries every single time you want to use your quirk in life or death situations!

>Let's have a few mini powerup arcs just for you so we can have a reason why you are ripping your own arms off and breaking all your fingers anymore!

>Okay everyone else!

>Time for a harmless exhibition match against your fellow UA students!

>Feel free to drop buildings on each other, burn each other alive, suffocate and poison one another, drown your opponents, beat them til they're unconscious, kick their skulls in so hard their protective helmets shatter, encase them in ice so they can't breath or move, and just have a good, fun time training

I'm feeling disillusioned with this shit now.

>>877022

It's a shame that Knuckleduster and his arc is out of the picture, his character was main pull of the story. He embodied the whole unregistered hero that solved nasty cases that registered heroes couldn't or wouldn't do, but at the same time bordered on being a villain.

The Crawler worked better as the young apprentice and as the voice of reason when Knuckleduster went overboard. Without his master the story went from exploring the limits of what makes someone a real hero to slice of life with action scenes.

And now, with the introduction of more side characters, it's turning into the main series redux.

Don't get me wrong, I still do prefer it to the main series, but I think it jumped the shark after the queen bee/wasp died.

>>877026

I wonder if Hori ever regrets introducing so many characters.

>>877216

Getting told by Oda himself to calm the fuck down about making new characters should've had an impact on him. Apparently it didn't.

>>874085

Daily reminder that Neji's speech on the Chuunin tournament was proven right in the end.

>>877052

>Now that Crawler seems to actually be growing his quirk into something notable

Deku improves his quirk:

Stage 1: Gets stronger (and hurts himself less)

Stage 2: Gets stronger (and hurts himself less)

Stage 3: Gets stronger (and hurts himself less)

...

Stage 50: Learns to kick... Gets stronger (and hurts himself less)

Crawler Cruller improves his quirk:

Stage 1: Learns to use his repulsion to slide around at high speed

Stage 2: Learns he can reverse the repulsion to stick to walls

Stage 3: Learns he can fire the repulsion with his hands and stick his feet down to do blasts

...

Stage 50: Some weird shit probably.

Therefore Cruller > Deku.

>>877071

I've been (over)thinking about this lately.

Japanese style shonen superpowers always had a get out clause for suspension of disbelief purposes, which is that everyone has ki or whatever, so even if there are some people way stronger than others, everyone who actually fights is way stronger and more durable than a normal person. Piccolo can beat the crap out of Krillen and we know Krillen will lose because his ki isn't as big or whatever, but it's not the same as imaging a normal person being one hit blown into meaty chunks with a serious punch, so neither suspension of disbelief (which still matters a little tiny teensy weensy bit even in a wacky fantasy series) or tension takes a HUGE hit from that kind of fight.

Now if you bring American style superpowers into a Japanese shonen, at first it seems novel and cool, but all sorts of issues crop up that are inherent to the way American superpowers work. You'll have a bunch of powers that just make you really strong and durable as powers in themselves, and then everyone else has totally different powers that are more roundabout, but otherwise they should be normal people in terms of their ability to weather damage. This harms tension and the credibility of the stronger powers, because all of these characters will behave as if they have super durability or super strength anyway, which in turn harms the credibility of characters that have actual super strength or super durability as their powers. So Mirio behaves as if he has super strength even though that's not his power, because it needs to appear that way in order for him to harm Deku and Kirishima credibly. How other characters react to Deku's super strength is also an issue. It's all a big nullifying circle that saps any kind of impression from the powers on display. They don't feel like a big deal.

Really, the best way to do this sort of thing is to remove "super strength", "super durability" and "super speed" as special powers altogether. Make everyone roundabout the same in these categories and then let the tiers arise from who has the most hax weird powers. JoJo kind of has a way out too in that power is balanced by range and so on. You can brush it off all as fantasy, but internally consistent rules in a series that is primarily based off the idea of weird powers is forefront for the series to have any long term credibility. The one time there's any tension in these recent BnHA chapters is when they acknowledge that fire is fucking lethal and have that play into a mindgame thing. Otherwise, mostly nothing has any consequence and that ultimately goes back to the power system, even if we can talk about characters or plot going nowhere too.

>>877348

Of course things have no consequence. Remember than All Might kneed Bakugo in the jaw so hard he sent him flying trough the wall of (a 3rd floor) building? And It was was nothing.

Things is that super-durabiltiy was never mentioned. Ki was never mentioned.

You have students going at each-other will full use of deadly powers. BnHA is quite simply retarded in it's world building, since training kids is treated as full life-or-death battles, extra-super-powerful attacks do jack s*** and half of things don't make sense.

>>877347

Don't forget flashbacks to characters that were just introduced to show how they're suddenly relevant and deep.

>>877488

And don't forget decreasing the number of chapter pages.

>>877348

You mean like every shonen having this "magic powers" that is explained in a way but is then completely forgotten and no-one gives a shit.

Naruto had those hand seals being "explained" in a way for each combination creating a jutsu. It started being quite nice at the beginning but then turned complete crap with millions of jutsus. It became so irrelevant that Kishimoto gave up on that which ended just waving your hand and then some magic happens.

Bleach was the biggest offender of it with its "secret power inside you." cliche. Look at the humans who received power out of thin air and then turned into it's "true" power. And then there's Ichigo with his massive amount of level ups. "Oh no, Ichigo. This isn't your real power, you have to awaken your hidden power." and then again "Oh no, Ichigo. This isn't your real power, you have to awaken your hidden power." until the end of the final ark.

Then there comes Luffy from One Piece with his "Welp, gotta use this now" in every fucking difficult situation.

Then comes this HxH and it's mindfucked nen, it started introducing nen in simplest way. "With my nen, I can do this". But then after this "O my rubber nen" fiasco, Togashi is thinking that maybe trying to "explain" about his nen (spiritual energy) on a whole fucking ark and then he thinks that everything will go smoothly later on after all of those inner monologues from those "insert character # monologue" than will be forgotten during the main continent ark. No-one gives a crap about long explanations and then be thrown into obscurity. He could have don a simple guide at the beginning of the story of the story. But no, he had to shove this clusterfuck "How to nen" guide into a "Look at those irrelevant characters are fighting" BOAT ark and then believe it to be a masterwork. What a complete hack.

>>877521

Holy shit.

>>877053

You make it sound like I'm defending Academia. I'm just saying there's no reason to suck Vigilantes dick.

>>877121

That's what I thought about it too.

Sheesh, these fucking alumns are going to kill themselves and no one is batting an eye.

Yeah, yeah Plus Ultra and all that, that's okay, but hot damn this is a fucking training school for future heroes, not an arena colosseum.

>>877521

Fake news. He's probably just being melodramatic over his male pattern baldness.

aren't we taking this a little too seriously?

>>877646

>but hot damn this is a fucking training school for future heroes, not an arena colosseum.

You see that would work if they went with that kind of vibe from the beginning, and made the entire society reflect that. If we had a warlike Spartan society where no one gives a flying fuck if kids die because they need to keep churning out superpowered soldiers then the level of extremity in training would match up, but there's a disconnect when you have a society that's really at the end of the day quite similar to our own just with superpowered villains inhabiting it. You'd think the system of morals and how much life is valued would change, but it hasn't. How much death actually happens during training seems at least worth a speech given the setting, even if you aren't actually going to kill any characters, since concern about children's safety superficially seems to be present in spite of constantly throwing them into incredibly lethal training. Horikoshi should have planned out the setting more.

>>877714

Definitely, but that's what we do here.

>>877772

I would be fine with a time skip at any moment now.

>>877487

And this isn't even getting into shit like the kid who can make things grow and shrink. "telescoping body" makes sense, if we're going with the quirks being biological, but how the fuck does someone just create Mass?

And where does Todoroki/Endeavor's fire even come from?

Bakugo at least sweats nitroglycerin, but is Todoroki just igniting the air?

Honestly the easiest work around to this, and best example of anime magic, is still HxH. There, your powers are directly tied to your Nen/ki. And by extension, bigger nen pool = use your power more.

The problem with this series isn't "there's too many characters" or "x and y keep jobbing".

The problem is NOTHING HAS FUCKING CONSEQUENCE. How many plot threads just up and vanished so far? What relevant aftermath of just about anything that happened in the series so far is there? Half the arcs feel like filler and padding meant to just get tankobons up for sale.

>>878001

>NOTHING HAS FUCKING CONSEQUENCE

Preach it!

For all the talk of UA practically having lost all credibility no student was disallowed to stay in a dorm room. Moreover, the LoV have attacked several times but so far failed to take the life of a single student or turn anyone to their side.

Honestly, I'm rooting for a culling of some of all the students taking up space right now.

spoilers are out, it's a chapter where nothing gets resolved and everyone just stands around getting ready.

>>878087

So the same kind of chapter we've been getting for almost 3 arcs now?

>>878031

The dorm room thing is a good point. You'd think there'd be at least one student who was living at home still or had to bow out. It would've been a good opportunity to cut down the cast and have those characters return later.

>>878098

I'm just calling you out on your faggotry not on unrelated matter. I'm not the faggot bingo poster.

>>878174

Thanks for these, I would probably drop the series entirely if I had to read it.

>>878174

>everyone looks like shit and the audience feels like killing themselves.

That sentence accurately describes a good portion of shonen manga that managed to get past 100 chapters.

>>877348

The only exception I recall to this, wasn't even Anime, but Avatar:The Last Airbender, where Jet got killed.

>>877487

>BnHA is quite simply retarded in it's world building, since training kids is treated as full life-or-death battles, extra-super-powerful attacks do jack s*** and half of things don't make sense.

Most fiction authors don't want to slaughter most of their cast every other episode, and are unwilling to tone down the stakes.

DC Movies, like the Flashpoint Paradox, actually did things quite well.

>they sat through years of yakuza and Gentle shit to watch everyone get humiliated

This is a legitimate cuckold manga

>>878365

Who gives a shit, she's a literally who with no character outside of surface level eccentricities. She's never going to be worth caring about.

Get this bitch off my screen, she's fucking trash for incel retards

I wonder when chapters will be 8 page short, at least that way there's less filler to read.

>>878365

Her quirk is getting overused on bad doujins because that's as deep as the characters can get in this clusterfuck

I want to do lewd things to Tokage.

>>878395

>n-no it's not the series being bad, it must be the boogeyman!

You are a retard of the worst kind.

>>878365

Making my dick hard.

>>878401

I don't much care about this series but there certainly seems to be an overtly bitter hate-train going on in these threads.

>>878367

>>878368

>>878375

>>878376

Just looking at the last few posts above, you don't usually get this level of aimless buthurt.

>>868494

Woot

The more I reread the more I realize the fights in this arc are terrible.

>Industrial complex setting is so cluttered that nobody knows who is where at what time

>Nothing is dynamic, everyone is just hurling quirks at each other standing still

>Somehow getting hit on the head with an industrial pipe doesn't kill Shouto

>>878451

Only one of those is true ding-dong.

>>878451

This is something I've had a problem with since the series started; the fight choreography is awful. The best fight we've gotten was when Bones took the All-Might fight and went wild on it. Otherwise most of it is pretty lacklustre and seems like a sequence of poses rather than having any real sense of weight or motion.

>>877046

>Thats Gentle, and that was subverted by him not being actually evil to begin with and only another person living in a fucked world.

That's straight out of any shonen. Stop kidding yourself.

>Also the reformed/misunderstood talk-no-jutsu was already done with Shoto, way better than fucking Kishimoto.

It's exactly the same as what naruto did with each of his classmates and various villains who were all ex-assholes by the end. Magician not-badguy might as well not exist, he's that pointless.

>And what do you mean weight? The weight of anything is defined by you interest in it. This means you just aren't interested in the characters.

Weight on the story - specifically how a character's actions weigh on the story. That's all I've ever been talking about. Stop trying to redefine things to suit your argument.

>Passing beats of a story arc doesn't mean they are over. I specifically left out Iida because I do feel like he has kinda been shafted.

You're trying to have it both ways. They're effectively over and that's why there's zero tension between any of the characters. Take todoroki and endeavor's relationship. Anyone can see how it will end up. Endeavor inexplicably decided to cease being an abusive asshole, and Todoroki decided to tolerate him from time to time. The only thing that made Endeavor interesting is dissolved in favor or a cheap redemption arc. There's no signs of surprises. Their relationship will improve and Endeavor will become an ex-asshole more than he already is. The train tracks were laid and anyone with two eyes can see its final destination.

>The pay off still resonates with the concert and Eri as it all lead to one thing after another.

>Stain -> Villain interest in the LoV -> Raid is conducted and Bakugo is kidnapped -> Kamino fight and All Might and AfO retirement -> Villains coming out of the woodworks like Chisaki -> rescue and rehabilitation of Eri

Listing chronology of a story is not how you justify character actions affecting a story. You didn't even attempt to dispute how the payoff of the stain arc was to add new villains. You also don't seem to notice how lazy that is.

>Iida would prior to Stain arc wouldn't have gone with Deku and the group to Kamino and wouldn't have understood Deku's pain when he was thinking of Eri during the Yakuza arc. Its not much and thats why I think he is kinda shafted but it definitely mattered.

It was because of his personal vendetta that he acted irrationally. Outside of that, he acts rationally, and that was always his character. There's no side effects of that incident either, and that's what I'm talking about. It's like it never happened in terms of character growth. He learned a lesson he already knew. That's how ineffectual the stain arc was on lida.

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>>877047

>Bakugo was specifically targeted because of his massive sperg-out, something Shigaraki thought he could use to convince Bakugo to join the LoV, because Shiggy viewed him as a flat character. THis is a major plot point, how the fuck can you act as if this didn't matter?

You're conflating the attack on the hideout with the non-development that was on Bakugo's character. What I said wasn't to claim that attack wasn't important. Good job stooping to a new low and misconstruing claims.

Exactly with Lida, Bakugo and him were the same before and after. It was an easy way to develop his character, add introspection to him that we rarely see, maybe he'll wonder why villains are drawn to him that way, etc. Nope, nothing. It did nothing for his character.

>You are trying to nit-pick issues(that don't even exist most of the time) so you can just be dismissive.

Such as what? Be specific if you're moving to dismiss things, because even while dismissing things you should be able to specify what and why. Prove they don't exist. You insisting they don't exist does not qualify as proof.

>That what I get from you fags - dismissive, as if you don't like the series to begin with and just searching for a reason to justify your dislike.

You fags? Dismissive? Absolute projection. Way to generalize and group everyone together. People can dislike something they previously liked because they notice a decline and want to see it improve. You're doing a terrible job trying to ignore what's said and move to strawman arguments.

>It was about what she experienced prior and what she learned from being stomped the first time.

Reread that chapter or rewatch that episode. There wasn't even a generic shonen flashback moment nor mention of that.

>And not everything has to have bearing on the main plot. That doesn't make them bad. I'm just saying that other student's conflicts have had a effect on the plot.

I would readily agree with you about that except for the fact that even your examples serve the opposite intended effect, proving that even when used for major plots there is a demonstrated lack of affect on characters and their development.

>I already gave you example of of where characters have effected the plot with their side arcs.

Your examples consistently fall flat. Feel free to continue ignoring rebuttals to that and pretending your examples remain valid. As said before, they're tested, fail - and you pretend otherwise.

>Even during the Yakuza Twice and Toga's attitude helped the result in the end we got. Something that Shigaraki was counting on because he didn't even told them to do it.

That's not an example of internal struggles being used as a story catalyst, the goal you were originally trying to achieve by proving. What that is is a valid example of characters being utilized as a story catalyst. Try again, maybe you will finally find a valid example. In fact, try and find an easy one that we can both agree on. The story isn't that botched that there aren't any.

>You just said the story is moving slower.

You just gave away how hard you're dodging the point. The length wouldn't be an issue if the story deserved such a length. Its lack of substance despite its length is a glaring red flag. Dodge harder, fall flatter.

>It all on you. If you don't enjoy so far why stick around?

Like anyone else that has been complaining, I want to see it get better. The story ideas and concept deserve better. The potential in this series is being wasted. It's not past the point of no return, but it is stuck in a rut.

>I've personally enjoyed what happened so far. If you can't wait so high action then drop the series and come back after some time, clearly you are not enjoying it. I also want to see more progression but in no way is what we have gotten so far I would consider bad.

So far in what sense? The story has clearly declined. I check back in every 1-3 weeks because I'm gradually losing interest as with many other people. The large assortment of characters has amounted to almost no one worth caring about. It's worse than bad, it's mundane. The dreaded middle ground between good quality and bad is mundane, and BNHA had fallen into it.

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>>877047

>I keep seeing this non-argument.

How is it a non-argument? Every rebuttal you fail to make has revolved around denying issues with execution. His story ideas are simple that everyone can see the formula used - anyone can imagine them working. But they fall flat, therefore the execution of them is what's failed.

>When somebody out argues you about something and shows you that its still good but you still don't want to like it you roll back into the "well the execution sucked". Most prominent with the Yakuza arc.

Pathetic. You are almost juvenile in terms of delusion. You never out-argued anyone, or at least not me. At this point you have dropped most if not all of what's in my posts and failed to respond to different points. You clearly know you're unable to form a comprehensive rebuttal, so in your juvenile mindset, claiming victory is good enough. If that's the best you can do, you are really not helping you or anyone else that is defending the series from warranted criticism. And that's really sad.

>So you aren't enjoying it. You're probably burned out from short weekly updates.

The problems aren't as over-simplified as you're trying to paint there. The short updates wouldn't be so bad if what's delivered wasn't repetitive. Anyone can tell that most of what we're getting is filler, and the sad truth is that filler doesn't have to be so bad if it's got variety. I can tell you're going to try and strawman this into, "you're just not enjoying it," but if you want to improve you should make a better attempt.

3/2

>>878536

>Lida

I'm not even involved in this argument, but you need to knock that shit off.

>>878568

Class B didn’t need a push because nobody cares about them and they aren’t doing anything for the story.

That’s what bothers me so much, there ARE things happening but they’re spaced out with bullshit like this current arc. Unless Class B is gonna be integral to the current plot, they don’t need to be in the center stage right now

>>878623

> What a interesting assessment. Mind telling me how you came to this conclusion?

How could you come to any other conclusion? Class B doesn't have a single interesting or likable character.

>>878623

No character in class B is cool or interesting. That’s why they’re in class B. The only good thing about them is that some of their designs are cool but most of them are boring or outright bad

>>879371

Shinzo is in class 1B now, isn’t he?

But original 1B class members? Not really any that jump out.

>>879371

>>879322

Nice opinions. Sure convinced me.

>>879458

How do we convince a retard that water is wet?

>>879699

>retard calling others retarded

Wet is the property ascribed to a solid when it has water in or stuck to it. Of all the things in the universe, Water is the one thing that can never be wet by definition alone.

My problem with the series is that I feel like we should be doing something. I don't really see how this current competition progresses the plot. I understand that it is explaining these characters that have been in the background for the last few years but it doesn't really matter when we've got a bunch of villains running around in the dark.

>>880107

How many times are you going to make the same post worded differently?

>>878623

>Mate, I don't see the strawman, I'm liking it and you are not. Thats a fact, not a strawman.

You are employing a strawman. Moreso, you deliberately did what was predicted, that you would rely on a strawman. The reason why it is a strawman is because you are ignoring all past points of arguments, your opportunity to try and rebut them, and have went with, "I'm liking it and you are not." Denying that while doing what you're denying. Case in point: the argument was not about who likes it and not. Ergo, you are using a strawman.

All of this shows that you're done arguing because your own examples are easily used against you, you've demonstrated that you're incompetent at formal arguments, you're way more comfortable at using cheap fallacies akin to shitposting, and so you're going to continue relying on strawman arguments against people with complaints about the series. You will no doubt continue this into the next thread.

The next thread to you is another opportunity to wipe the slate clean and try to control what other people think. But this thread has shown that the complaints with the series are gathering momentum. The momentum isn't suddenly new either. It was already there, and more people are noticing it and their patience is wearing out. Trying to deny problems with the series that fuels these complaints are even there, just encourages people to talk about them.

See you in the next thread.

>>880272

Of course the infestation of cuckchan would reach here, more intensely every time that site has a downtime. I think on 2 threads ago, a true HxH sperg came to shitpost.

So it's not much of a surprise when a week ago some autist starts to bitch about the smallest non-related things and then a week later the very same bitching repeats.

>>880276

>They come in waves

>All this effort to accuse anons of being from halfchan

Nigger, there's complaints in waves because we only talk shit when the new chapter drops. You're fucking delusional.

>>880276

That seems unlikely. Personally I absolutely adored the series, when it was new and I just started it, but now I've straight up dropped it. I only come in these threads now to get TL;DR posts on each chapter. And this is something exclusive to MHA, for me. Because I've been reading One Piece for longer, and I've never ignored an update.

>>879877

>Wet is the property ascribed to a solid

Water is wet, you filthy kike.

>>880378

>>880839

Nobody cares, anon.

>>880830

What's the point of your pic?

>Those results

Holy fuck, Deku is getting destroyed. Hawks is placing way too high. What the fuck is Japan doing?

>Endeavour in the top 10

NOTHING WRONG.

>>880830

How the fuck is All Might last place? He's honestly one of the best characters. Most of season one and two I was wishing he was the MC or we would be getting flashback episodes. Also, why is Best Jeanist on that list at all? He's barely done anything and the female pro-hero's are more entertaining and get more screen time.

>Bakugou

>first place

I fucking hate normalfags.

I can understand prideful and feisty characters being popular but only if the grow as a character. Someone like Vegeta grows over the course of the series and changes as a character, Bakugou is just as much of an insurable prick from the first episode as he is now.

>Endeavor in top 10

>tumblr and twitter on suicide watch

What a good day it is.

>Vlad comments that although Class A and B seemed like an even match, so far the only win for Class A was thanks to Shinso's help, so can you really consider them an even match? Kirishima and the others get mad but Eraserhead stops them. Eraserhead: "Would you act that way if you made a mistake out in the real world? The reality is that Class B has had better thought out plans. It seems the Vlad has prepared them better than me." While Class B has gotten stronger from their daily training, All Might believes Class A is powerful too and looks forward to seeing Bakugo's in the next match.

>Bakugo tells his teammates to follow him and they comment on how he's acting the same as always. Bakugo's plan is to have him lead and the others support. Sero comments the other team has a lot of counterattack abilities, and Bakugo tells him "That's why we have to act first"

>They find the enemy's shadow and have Jiro investigate, but then Jiro yells out as she's attacked by a loud sound. Tokage's quirk "Cut Lizard Tail" allows her to move around split into pieces. She can currently split into 50 pieces. Sero makes a tape barricade but Bondo and Kamakiri press against it with a pipe they cut and glued. Sato tries to protect them from the sticky tape and pipe but Bakugo blasts it all away. Jiro is attacked by Kamakiri but Bakugo comes in to save her.

>Save to win Win to save I'm stronger than before

>He's reached a new kind of strength

So in summary:

>Hori (via Vlad) sucks off Class B and says Class A sucks. Aizawa cucks out and agrees with him.

>Bakugou Gary Stu's his way into being the strongest person in 1A by effortlessly winning and saving his teammates so Hori can keep sucking him off as well

More or less it's the worst case scenario everyone was afraid of.

>>880989

>reddit

God, you just can't stop being such a cancer.

>>880990

>The fanboy deflects instead of answering the shit turns this arc has made.

>>880996

>instead of admitting being caught, he moves his goal posts as usual

Every single time. It's as if that's your "defense mechanic". Is this why you're here for? Jealousy, envy, grudge?

I stopped reading after the recent big dream chapter, does it get any better or is it still shit?

>>880999

>Caught

Caught doing what? Posting the exact same synopsis copy-pasted literally fucking everywhere else on the internet? And if it is on reddit (I didn't get it from there nor did I check) then the only thing you did was out yourself you fucking retard, as if you hadn't embarrassed yourself in this thread enough already. The only person who moves the goalposts here is you every single time you get btfo.

>>881081

>Caught doing what?

Caught on not being interested on these thread but to shitpost it until it dies. Caught on copy-paste a reddit origin text.

>Posting the exact same synopsis copy-pasted literally fucking everywhere else on the internet?

Reddit, cuckchan, tumblr. Only there, mongrel.

>(I didn't get it from there nor did I check)

Then that leaves cuckchan or reddit. Which is it, faggot?

>no, you!

Check yourself, you've put a copy-paste text of some reddit tier text and then you onlyr reaction was using "fanboy" as some way to do what? To insult? You're the rat who outed yourself of being here to shit drama. And then you have the audacity on trying to brush it away and make yourself as some sort of victim? You're glowing as some kike on a Christmas tree.

>>880953

My Hero Academia from All-Might's perspective would be a great story.

BAKUGOU, YOU'VE GOTTEN STRONG!

>Buggy the clown, Daz Bones and the booger dude from Dressrosa

I couldn't yawn any harder

>>881300

>Bakugou's "power up" is that he's still absurdly overpowered...

>but now he has the sense to pay attention to his teammates

BRAVO HORI!

>>881468

Bakugou, you are amazing...

>>878451

>Industrial complex setting is so cluttered that nobody knows who is where at what time

You got it, anon. I think the most offensive shit was when tail dude managed to have his superior position reversed and in ½ page and somehow thrown into the jail because Hori realized the match had to be a tie.

>>881468

>Bakugou's "power up" is that he's still absurdly overpowered...

>but now he has the sense to pay attention to his teammates

I really hope Bakugou and his team loses. They seriously even told him it was a shit plan and yet they still went along with it. It would be so satisfying if they just once told Bakugou to eat shit and let him fail in his own retarded charge.

>>876946

You write like a girl, lurk moar

>>881892

Appreciated. With the influx of 1/2 channel, there's more chores for you to do.

>>881635

Writing like a girl means excessive ad hominem at an anon's masculinity and constant appeal to emotion. lurk moar

>>881942

You know you can make a new thread, right?