/a/ - Animu & Mango

I just saw the first episode of the anime. I definitely can imagine quite a few people getting shocked especially if they look at the name and only saw an image of the priestess as part of advertising.

I will add that I liked how it showed the impracticality of using a longer weapon in smaller spaces although thrusting would work and it did a few times.

>Already a new thread

What the hell happened?

>>867485

270 posts happened, pretty much all fueled by the REMOVE KEBAB crowd. In a vacuum nobody would have given a shit about this.

>>867485

The thread was getting directly linked elsewhere on the site. That may have something to do with it.

>>867492

It was?

In regards to the normalfags freaking out about rape, its to be entirely expected. These are the same people who had to retcon D&D lore so that Half-orcs were the product of 'political alliances' between humans and orcs, rather than the natural byproduct of raping and pillaging by bloodthirsty green-skinned savages.

>>867492

That would explain a lot.

>>867492

It's not that I that the possibility of it but do you have any proof for this? Anyway it felt like the reaction was unavoidable though due to Goblin's Slayer appeal to normalfags despite the overblown reaction to the rape.

>>867510

Well, >>>/tg/395105 for one. While I know there's a decent overlap between here and /tg/ and that's no issue, there's still a difference between a natural overlap and people only coming here because a thread was linked. And the context of the post didn't help, being about reactions rather than the actual series.

>>867511

It was /tg/, though. Don't they all already love GS?

I hope next episode is less drama and more about the existential joke of an autistic high-level adventurer doing nothing but killing gobs.

>>867527

No, artist called CIGMA.

It's on the pic.

Anyone know where I can find the Chibi Goblin Slayer spin off?? I remember reading it a few months ago but cant find it anywhere now.

>>867462

>If you honestly think that the CGI in Goblin Slayer is good

It's the not the CGI itself I found good, it was okay, it's the technical use of it in conjunction with 2D to mask it's own presence that I found impressive, because it's simply not done. Studios simply don't try to minimize the impact of CGI in the same way, as I described in my original post.

When I saw the guild quest lady give that far away look, I thought it was foreshadowing GS as a "Oh no, they might run into Goblin Slayer and get tramatized by his brutality!"

I'm glad it didn't go that route and it was really foreshadowing how she often sees noobs go die like that.

>>867538

Yes, I need them all, where can I find them?

>>867546

Why are you posting that?

>>867545

Those are the only 2 i have downloaded and i don't remember where i downloaded them from but as i said pretty sure they are extras which means they are probably included at the end of the chapters in some translated version of the manga.

>>867541

Such is the life of a guild receptionist. It's not like she could convince cocksure adventures that they should be careful around weak goblins.

>>867560

I wonder why the guild doesn't make high ranked adventurers take ad honorem work from time to time, just like lawyers and this would positively affect their chances of going rank up or some shit like that. Then you would have some veteran adventurers scout noobs on goblin missions so they're properly educated on how not to fuck up. Kind of like how GS did with the priestess.

>>867568

That would make sense if adventurers had some kind of responsibility and sense of having to answer to someone, but somehow I don't think most murderhobos would be willing to do that kind of thing, especially when they're probably thinking they're going to score a kill on some big monster and earn their glory that way.

>>867568

Some adventurers actually do train noobs. NotGuts and his Paladin waifu both do that, I think. There's just too many overeager noobs and most high ranking adventurers would rather spend their time going on adventures and boasting about their deeds than play babysitters.

I mean, do you enjoy these kinds of missions in your vidya?

>Have any potions?

>lolnope who needs potions!?

GS needs to expand his gobbocaust. As is, they breed faster than he can kill them. He needs to start a goblin slaying guild and start training other autists to kill goblins. The only way to exterminate the goblins is either to expose them en masse to some kind of sterilizing agent, or to get industrial with the goblin killing.

>>867582

The thing is the point of the manga is that goblins is a really minor menace compared to the rest.

I really feel sad about having no redemable goblins, but if you follow the manga and see that goblins might come from another universe/anime mordor it might explain things a little better.

>>867578

A few hours earlier.

>Hello potion seller. We are going to hunt some goblins and we want only your strongest potions.

<My potions are to strong for you, adventurers.

>S- sure. We didn't want them anyways!

Actually, he said that they didn't have any money to buy them. Not that potions would have been very helpful, since they'd probably have bought healing potions instead of antidote.

>>867594

They don't know about Berserk. They know about Goblin Slayer because of all the hilarious reddit memes and comparisons to D44m.

And really, I'm a filthy secondary and only knew about Goblin Slayer from osmosis on /a/ and I was expecting much more edge and suffering porn. The rape was downright tasteful as far as rape goes.

>>867546

I don't get it, wasn't the whole point of the rape and killing to make the viewer understand the GS's point of view on goblins and make them hate them just as much as he does. Why are they calling it edgy and whatnot?

As someone that has never seen a D&D in real life, what is the connection between that and GS?

>>867605

There is fantasy on both of them.

>>867605

Read the LNs

>>867605

Read the manga.

>>867604

>why are they calling rape edgy

Gee anon, it's a fucking mystery.

>>867594

The rape in Berserk never bothered me like it does in Goblin Slayer. I'm not sure maybe its the art style but there's something about Goblin Slayer that makes it really get to me.

>>867605

>PCs getting killed because they don't take the dangers seriously.

>Preparing evering to the last detail to leave as little as possible up to chance.

Besides the more obvious parts read the LN and the manga this is something that is common in these games, especially older editions.

>>867625

You probably read Berserk years ago before politics poisoned your mind.

>>867575

>>867576

Yeah, but I doubt all adventurers would think themselves capable of slaying a dragon after realizing their own limitations along the way. If they could climb up to a certain rank doing additional scouting quests (the client is the guild and they pay the veteran for taking them) it would encourage that kind of behavior from common adventurers. Another thing that could be done is to at least leave some documentation, teach this info to receptionists so they can give specific tips to noobs depending on the quest. Maybe this way they don't die from some dumb mistake like not getting potions or antidotes or going inside a nest with a high ranked wanderer.

Most noob adventurers are village plebs who probably don't even know how to read, let alone how dangerous goblins are. The guild loses by sending them as ignorant as they came because they won't dispatch another group till they hear news that they noobs failed. That's a waste of time and resources with a high chance of threat escalating.

>>867595

They still relied on a priest that can heal them 3 times at most per day. That's like 3 potions for 4 people and after using them all one party member becomes useless baggage. It was poor decision making from the get-go.

>>867625

>Female character who's well fleshed out, shown not to be just a feminist icon, just a girl doing her very best to be useful to the men she admires gets raped and mindbroken

<Heh

>Absolute nobody gets raped

<OHMYFUCKINGGOD

I'd check for a brain tumor if I were you.

>>867625

Rape is a normal thing to be disgusted by, that's a rational reaction, you aren't supposed to enjoy the fact that these characters are being raped.

The fact that goblins rape is used to show they are savage and parasitic, they have to steal human women to propagate, you aren't supposed to like the goblins. It should make you want them get slaughtered and killed.

But if your reaction is "Ohh I cant possibly watch this is has rape in it!" then do us all a favor and kindly remove yourself from the gene pool.

>>867578

To be fair I dislike any game that has you playing a fighter-type character and also requires you to use items. Potions are for characters with low health and for in a pinch, they shouldn't be standard practice in a fantasy setting (at least not in battle) since that's the job of healers. You should be able to clear dungeons on pure skill (and maybe a little grinding) alone, with potions and such being a backup or to make life easier.

>>867605

Goblin Slayer plays out exactly how most new adventures play out in D&D if you have a DM who enforces the core rules strictly, but allows for fun mechanics. That is, most parties die before level 5 because of lack of planning when the DM isn't ass-pulling to allow characters to survive their stupidity or bad rolls. Goblin Slayer is how most tabletop "low level adventure" games go plus or minus the raping.

>>867622

We're not shown that in the opening scene of the anime is what I mean.

>>867649

I've never played DnD so I wouldn't know, never had the friends to play it with.

>>867625

The troll rape and such in berserk features characters who are basically lifeless corpses at that point, vs. the girls getting raped in Goblin Slayer are showing real emotion.

>>867658

>basically lifeless corpses at that point

They are literaly corpses, because trolls go full chest busters.

>>867652

His backstory will come together with cowgirl's introduction which should be happening in the next episode. Gut's backstory was introduced in a similar way, he kills an apostle while showing how much of a broken human he has become and then jumps into the golden age arc. Luckily GS's backstory can be summarized into village ravaged, sister raped and killed, sole survivor, swears to kill all goblins so it can fit nicely into 5min or so.

>>867625

>maybe its the art style

It is. Berserk goes for a much more "realistic" style, compared to GS's animuness. It's obvious that atrocities happening to cute animus hit the feels harder than ones on a filthy 3DPD. (she likely deserved it anyway)

>>867637

>Another thing that could be done is to at least leave some documentation, teach this info to receptionists so they can give specific tips to noobs depending on the quest. Maybe this way they don't die from some dumb mistake

This world is supposed to mirror a typical RPG game world, and I don't remember a single RPG with shit like that. The usual way you're supposed to learn is by getting your ass handed to you or to the goblins if your character is female and having to reload from savegame.

>The guild loses by sending them as ignorant as they came because they won't dispatch another group till they hear news that they noobs failed.

Why won't they? What was GS doing there then?

That was dark, I really liked how they went all the way and showed goblins starting to rape that girl, did not expect to see that. And the music is great too, I tewinded some parts multiple times just to listen to it.

>>867521

/tg/ has always loved Goblin Slayer since it was first introduced to them. GS and Dungeon Meshi are seemingly the only series that /tg/ universally like, while everything else, even Sleepy Princess, occasionally get whined about.

>>867678

The goblins are obviously nigglets, though.

I finally got around to seeing it. I was pleasantly surprised by the production quality. The soundtrack had some suitably metal moments, and everything was visually pretty good. I hope it stays that way.

What does GS think of the Japanese Goblin?

>>867703

We must rape goblins as revenge

>>867709

I'll volunteer.

>>867594

>How do these people exist in a world where Berserk does too?

They didn't read Berserk and they don't know about it outside of "Griffith did nothing wrong" memes.

>>867654

Low-level party wipes are common unless you enforce a perma-death rule (so many dms are faggots who just have you "unconscious" at 0 hp). Then people will take their dungeon prep seriously and strategize with each other. Not to mention it's more fun that way.

>>867713

0HP is normally the "Unconscious" threshold, with the negative HP being the buffer between unconsciousness and death. Effectively, your hit pounts are larger than written on your sheet, but most people only care about the amount you can have before unconsciousness because unconscious people might as well be dead if shit hits the fan.

>>867648

Still the greatest beach episode of all time.

>>867680

It's D&D. Hell, even the guild registration papers are D&D character sheets.

>>867713

From my limited experience playing live D&D and my experience from playing D&D video games, low lvl content is WAY more punishing than high level stuff. At high level you don't have to worry about a random arrow killing your squishies, or a failed saved on a save-or-die/save-or-goodasdead spell, or your front liners taking a few more hits than expected, or whatever else is being thrown at you. Low lvl D&D has characters dying if something looks at them funny.

>>867716

And they can just write off the bad AI as being representative of bad players doing stupid shit!

The whole goblins or orcs having to rape humans in order to reproduce has been a pretty common theme in light novels for a while. Never thought they would ever adapt one into an anime though.

>>867721

I wonder if they will get to the "shields".

>>867718

Cause goblins are cruel.

>>867572

By volume 5 in the light novels, only two girls are ever shown overcoming the experience.

>>867716

>if they didn't obsess on being solo murderhobo death simulators

Nothing bad with that, sometimes I just want to have a daughter.

>>867733

>And they can just write off the bad AI as being representative of bad players doing stupid shit!

They exist in cataclysm dda already.

>>867734

How are the LNs? How far are they compared to the manga in terms of story?

>>867721

>He thinks she'll be the only one

>You're in for a bad time.

Not really. The first chapter contains the only decoy protags. Every other character raped after this point is a literal nobody and the party basically has plot armor.

>>867734

>I wonder if they will get to the "shields".

Even with the 12 episode run at two chapters an episode they'll reach the farm defense halfway through the season. They could make it all the way through the city sewers arc this season even.

>>867736

Chapter 28 of the manga is still in volume 2. English translation of the novel is up to volume 5.

>>867737

>> the party basically has plot armor.

There is an almost with the elf.

>>867734

I bet the shields won't be naked.

>>867736

I remember reading the first volume before the manga. It was really good, there are tons of details that are skipped for the sake of brevity. The Manga is a watered down version of the LN and the Anime is going to be a watered down version of the Manga. Check the first chapters of the LN till GS rescues the priest. GS's actions are explained in such thorough way that highlight he isn't just a goblin guru but a master tactician.

>>867739

>There is an almost with the elf.

Yeah, and you don't even see her tits. Is it just you don't see the main characters naked or has the mangaka been toning down the nudity in recent chapters?

>>867745

Newest Year One chapter had some farmgirls getting raped (in Goblin Slayer's head) so I doubt it's the nudity. It's just no one will give a shit about the bitchy elf once she gets gobbed or at least has some tits on display, since Nips will consider her used goods even if she doesn't get gobbed.

>>867744

>I bet the shields won't be naked.

Isn't that a given? I bet the BD release will fix it though.

>>867747

Volume 5 centers around a used goods girl (run away noble turned adventure) though. And a little bit with the sword maiden. Though to a much lesser extent.

>>867752

Yeah, but is that noble girl considered part of the main cast/implied to be part of it now in such a way that can produce money, or is she just the center of that volume?

>>867754

It's sorta hinted she might be pop up later for an adventure, but yeah, probably just for that volume.

>>867755

Neat. My point was more that elf-slut is money-in-the-making. If you have her getting gobbed/showing some tasteful boob in the manga or anime, then her figures and other merchandise won't sell as well later on since the Nips will consider her used goods.

>>867758

Makes sense. Thinking about it now, I can imagine the outrage if her, cow girl, guild girl, or priestess got gobbed. They are only characters besides GS on the cover of each volume.

>>867766

Think Doom Slayer would come after Goblin Slayer based on the fact that GS is in medieval fantasy time and DS is in future-ish time.

>>867604

>Why are they calling it edgy and whatnot?

Because it's perpetually constant with that. Yeah, we get it, we see what they did and what they do and what the women turn out like from it.

After a while it's enough already. From what I hear the Light Novels don't have remotely as much gratuitous rape and etc. as the manga.

>>867756

Thank you you kind Elf

>>867777

All that being said, of course the perpetual depiction of brutal rape will be as an offensive (a great term ruined by oversensitive idiots) odor. It is repulsive and intended to be repulsive, but it is only being depicted to show you how repulsive it is. It's like the 13min uncut rape scene in Irreversible. After the first smack and strip of clothing we get it. We don't need to see Monica Belluci get raped on her belly for almost fifteen minutes. We get it already. The only reason to keep prolonging it is as a fetish, not some "artistic statement" as has been said. Same with Goblin Slayer showing you yet another scene of some poor warrior going to save his wife, seeing her bloodied and thoroughly broken from gangrape, having her get tossed into his arms by the gob and get run through by a sword, through her, by said gob. What was the point of that? What character did that develop? Why was this necessary for the plot?

Things like this mount overtime and again I hear the Light Novels are not remotely so graphic as the manga, which further lends to the idea that this is shock value schlock and partially guro-rape fan teasing. I also hear the manga is heavily front loaded with gob rape and things get more into the characters and tactics over time which is more like the Light Novels. That would be for the best, but for most anons its too late at that point.

TL;DR If you like Goblin Slayer as a manga you know what it is you are reading. Don't try to compare it to Berserk and don't try to deny what it is. There are reasons to enjoy the story and character of Goblin Slayer if you share that philosophy that lets you enjoy such a struggle of a man fighting trauma itself. Otherwise don't cry or complain about others finding it rancid like an offensive odor. The thing makes itself such for that singular reason, but if you look beyond that then hey, that is for you. Just don't be up in arms and crying hypocrisy about people not getting into this like you did.

>>867779

I just like a story about an autistic man killing niggers.

The goblins did nothing wrong in my humble opinion to be honest.

>>867777

Goblin Slayer is about fight against fate and evil, while knowing that you even though may win the battle you will lose the war. Evil will always be there, but you still have to fight it and treasure the good times while you have it. Just like in real life there is no big baddie that's the source of all evil. There is no one hero that will stop evil for good.

>>867779

I wouldn't say the novels were less graphic than the manga or anime. Everything that happened in the manga or anime happened in the novel. I think what you are seeing is just the conflicting nature of the two mediums. Where one graphic scene may just be one paragraph of many in the novel, it's one or more pages out of twenty something in a manga chapter.

The entire story of berserk was crafted for the manga. The manga and anime for GS is just an advertisement for the novels.

>>867777

You explained that well, Anon, and I agree with it completely.

>Compare this to literally most any given scene of gob-rape in Goblin Slayer. What development is being made? What is the point of this, outside of the first time it is shown? Oh right, to make us hate gobs. That is literally it.

I'd also argue it's because the artist actually likes it. He likes goblins, and he likes goblin rape. You really think he'd draw this shit if he didn't?

>>867625

I don't really get it, I truly couldn't care less about the cliche party of arrogant rookies. All I could think was

>well yeah that's what happens when you go on a raid without preparation

It's possible I'm just desensitized I suppose, or perhaps the obviousness of the party wipe and the flatness of their characters prevented me from seeing them as people.

>He likes goblins, and he likes goblin rape. You really think he'd draw this shit if he didn't?

I get the feeling that the author is a degradation fetishist with slight NTR undertones and Goblin Slayer as a character is his guilt and self-loathing made manifest. It's like if he fapped one out to goblin rape and then once he was done felt terrible guilt over his fucked up mindset, and that's when Goblin Slayer comes in as a bittersweet bandaid. This is why it's never enough, and Goblin Slayer usually arrives too late, after the messed up shit already happened or is happening.

>>867792

That's pretty good. The heroes and bigger adventures are all only concerned with either money or the bigger problems of the world. All the while ignoring the smaller evils. The second and five volumes really exemplify that.

>>867796

>>Goblin Slayer usually arrives too late, after the messed up shit already happened or is happening.

The second, third, and fourth volumes he just prevents shit. There's five out now, so in two out of five he got there after.

>>867795

It seems like a lot of the people that have a problem with it, just skimmed through the manga.

>>867799

No. Not even a little bit. I'm not trying to be edgy, but that sort of mercy really has no place in this setting.

>>867799

No, subhumans don't deserve pity. specially if they just exist to bring harm to your people.

>>867796

Oh I don't think he feels guilty about drawing any of this shit.

>>867799

Yes. He should have made them suffer more.

>>867802

>He should have made them suffer more.

Nah, the time spent making them suffer could be used to kill more goblins. Besides, as long as they are alive, they can potentially escape. It's best to just slay them as efficiently as possible.

>>867804

Nah, you're overthinking it. Berserk is better than Goblin Slayer because Berserk has a unique and believable fantasy world while Goblin Slayer's world feels like that a hollow JRPG, the fact that people go around and get quests, that adventurers are a profession like in a video game. Don't get me wrong, I like some stuff from Goblin Slayer, but its world building is childish and the whole thing is less mature than Berserk. They shouldn't be compared, they're in entirely different leagues. Berserk is like Lord of the Rings, while Goblin Slayer is like that Dungeons and Dragons movie with Marlon Wayans.

>>867804

>the supreme God is one that is evil and wishes evil upon mankind because mankind too has too many evil thoughts, instead of simply viewing mankind as temporary entertainment as it is in the world of GS.

That all suffering is but a game utterly demeans the entire story regardless of whether you want to appreciate that fact or not. That's just fact. It also explains what anons lists here >>867811 along with the fact that the characters don't actually have "names" but more titles. If you know Goblin Slayer then you know what I mean.

As for Berserk's "God", barring the always possible occasion that also won't be retconned somehow it's long been established that the entire world is following along some semi-Norse inspired near Ragnarok and that the most immortal and ultimate beings can, when stricken right and with the right power, be brought to bleed.

Either way nothing is beyond destruction in Berserk and nothing is also beyond either renewal or return (world-wise, not character speaking).

And those examples you posted are not the same. You know that. Those classic panels you posted aren't remotely reminiscent of H manga like Goblin Slayer's manga largely is in its gobbin' scenes. Not to mention what that moment of "adult attack" reveals in the lost children arc if I recall.

>You must be blind, as episode 1 of GS

I'm talking about the source material of the anime, mate, not the anime itself. Come on. Yeah the introductory events could be as graphic and brutal as it wants to be so long as it doesn't linger overlong, but once it establishes what it was supposed to establish (gobs = evil, world = brutal, Slayer = best autist) what then?

How about the nearly countless other times of this where nothing is being shown/the same things are being reiterated in the gobrape? I explained this thoroughly. There is no comparison.

>Goblin Slayer's efforts were not in vain

Maybe if I make a comparison it will help you get my point: Goblin Slayer is like Batman, fighting not just evil entities but what they represent. Batman fights crime. Goblin Slayer fights trauma. Batman fights criminals (who commit crime). Goblin Slayer fights goblins (who instill trauma). Batman can never have victory over "crime", just over "criminals" at certain points, and so he can never actually win. There is no hope for Bruce Wayne. Goblin Slayer can never have victory over trauma (as he is) but over the traumatizers, ie mainly goblins, and so he can never actually win.

Berserk gives Guts hope in that the entire story has elements, foreshadowing and momentum clearly leading somewhere with significant milestones for Guts, his personal goals (reclaiming Casca, revenge on/stopping Griffith, etc.) along that path. Goblin Slayer just pursues goblins. It's like he's trying to mow all the grass in the world and that's it. There is literally no hope for him or this world--and making it all in a very D&D game-like setting, explained by it being an actual game of gods, decimates any hope of hope. Unless Goblin Slayer somehow stumbles upon the godly tabletop and rolls the cosmic dice to eradicate all goblins, there's no way.

>>867744

>I bet the shields won't be naked.

What do you think black light shafts were invented for?

>>867831

Edgy always meant "things I don' like".

>>867829

Did you miss the part where goblins grow up into goblin champs that are like orcs on steroids or did you just not read the manga at all?

>>867838

>Personally, I expect there to be a large scale conspiracy to cover up kidnappings and propagandize the population about how harmless the little stinkers are while simultaneously suppressing large scale goblin extermination quests.

NOW, that would be /pol/ material.

>>867831

>making an as-graphic-as-possible scene of girls getting raped is not edgy

>the weakest, poorest, easiest possible writing choice to make the audience feel something or relate to someone, the all-time favorite of shonenshit, of making cute girls suffer in graphic ways is now good writing because muh goblin slayer did it

>>867851

Edgy is pretending that seeing girls getting raped doesn't make you feel anything.

>>867851

>is now good writing because muh goblin slayer did it

I love you and your opinion, Anon. Cue the fifteen replies crying how it was all done to show how evil goblins are and totally not a cheap shock tactic to bait readers.

>>867799

I really like the squeal, the sound of blood splatter, and the crunches as the club smashes into them. It was a very impactful scene, the sounds do the scene justice, the brutality of it all.

>>867829

Filthy secondary here. Is it ever explicitly stated that goblins rape human women for reproduction? It would be much more believable if you just said they do it for the fun of it and have females of their own to actually reproduce with.

Or we could assume that goblin biology is very different from mammalian biology and instead of the fetuses developing normally they could go through a larval stage where they are actually parasitic organisms and they develop by eating the host from the inside out and only plopping out when they're sufficiently developed to live outside the host.

>>867863

They talk about how goblins kidnap women to use as breeding stock.

>>867777

Well, as a 32nd degree philosophical psychologist myself, I think unending struggle is more realistic and hating gobs is a natural and worthwhile conclusion.

You mods seem to arbitrarily pick and choose which "grammatically incorrect" posts to ban.

>>867898

https://8ch.net/a/automaid.html

>>867799

It's because you come from a world that doesn't have creatures like goblins, similar to humans yet purely destructive and incapable of good. In our world anything capable of such excessive cruelty (in a way distinct from the suffering of simple predation) as the goblins is also capable of choosing not to do it, so you naturally have hope that the goblins can to.

But Goblin Slayer's world doesn't work that way.

>>867799

I kinda did. I know the argument and that they will become little assholes when they grow up, but I kinda wish there were a few redemable goblins, just a REALLY small minority.

Maybe goblins gobliing other goblins.But of course that is Goblin Slayer.

Besides pissing off the libtards, what merits does this show have?

>>867815

Time in hell is fucked so he could go in in the future and come out again in the past.

But hey, that's just a theory...

>>867909

No Isekai bullshit nor crappy JRPG elements.

>>867799

Do you feel bad when you kill a fox or coyote den that's been raiding your farm?

>>867934

Killing the cubs? probably.

>2nd episode hasn't even aired yet

>thread #2 already at 150 posts

This is getting to Overlord levels of retardation.

>>867838

>>867829

Maybe goblins can impregnate anything with a womb and only kidnap human women because they find them attractive or they like torturing sentient beings.

This way goblins can reproduce and maintain a large population by raping their camels and goats and only use humans for fun.

>>867936

>implications

I can't tell if you're too soft hearted or I'm too hard hearted. These are goblins, though. There's nothing particularly redeeming and they don't resemble anything not disgusting, even as children. Kill them all, obtain silver.

>>867942

They might be humans from an alternative universe. Fuck, they could be just demons.

God I hate wait to jerk off the those three girls getting raped in the anime version of chapter 3.

>>867950

How do they walk around in those legging things? Why is their belt so loose? Why are their gloves different? Even as I read the novel, these questions would not leave my head and were never answered.

>>867951

The leggings are to make you notice her delicious thighs anon.

>>867949

Pajeet "english", pajeet fetishes.

>>867947

That (not so) anon is onto something.

>>867951

>How?

>Why?

Because Dragon's Crown.

>>867951

>Why are their gloves different?

As for this part, there's actually a real reason for that kind of glove. Her left glove is covers her whole arm to prevent injuries if the bow string strikes her flesh.

>>867971

Probably cheesed his way into killing a goblin deity or more likely has just been at this for so many years they've given him a silver rank for being a reliable foundation of the local guild

>>867971

Hes is more focused on fighting many weaker foes than one strong one. Actually, he is less focused on fighting in general, as he also learned scounting and ranger skills.

Then there's also the fact that he has shittier gear.

https://dat.2chan.net/img2/res/1838801.htm

>>867973

>>867975

Would make sense if ranks are based on merit, but the manga suggests ranks are based on power and skill. According to the manga, gold ranks are supposed to be able to solve national level issues, and the slayer even once said he wasn't able to take on hundreds of goblins at once because "he wasn't a platinum", implying ranks are given to those who are powerful enough.

You shouldn't promote a weak adventurer to gold just because he's hard working and consistent because then they put responsibility on him that he can't handle.

>>867971

They explained this in the light novel. Silver is the highest you can get without taking on an official status, and your rank is determined by "experience points", as justified by your number of kills and jobs completed, like in a D&D game. They've killed enough goblins and taken enough goblin quests to get silver, and that's why they're silver. Also, he's really good at killing goblins. There probably isn't any amount of goblins he couldn't kill, and even if those top ranked adventurers started doing what he did, they definitely couldn't do it as well and might even die if they took them lightly. This is hinted at already happening later on in the story.

Just, like, stop being a secondary.

>>867979

>ranks are based on power and skill.

>and skill

Yes. It still makes sense. He isn't as powerful but he sure is skilled. Can't really rate a Ranger or a Rogue based only on his combat skills.

>>867985

>Can't really rate a Ranger or a Rogue based only on his combat skills.

You have to if you're going to be giving them higher responsibilities at higher ranks, like gold.

If ranks work around experience and merit until silver, and around power for gold, then that works.

>>867992

>"overseas"

Reading that makes me feel like we're Saudi Arabia or somewhere, being laughed at by enlightened western libertines.

>>867992

Tell them guro ero is just real life in the west.

>>867647

ADOM is an even more severe example, where cowering to use first aid skill in the heat of combat (both for normal damage and especially bleeding wounds) is absolutely crucial between aggressive attacks.

A different thread.

https://dat.2chan.net/img2/res/1838821.htm

>>868006

Isn't that actually the case for most franchises popular enough to get an anime? The manga adaptations of LNs tend to be the black sheep, or at least come across as such to us since they're often the ones which get the least attention and thus not translated as often.

>>868015

To be fair, I'd rather they hate us and treat us as radioactive waste. Because it's gotten pretty close to that point.

>>868025

This isn't representative of the America! Nobody lives in the center US!

It's true that GS got some kind of pet/summon on vol. 6?

>>867980

>experience points

Fuck the world building in this series is complete garbage. Why is Berserk the only decent fantasy manga?

>>868049

Curse Blood looked like it was shaping up to be a really nice escaflowne style fantasy isekai then the author died.

>>868049

It's literally a kill tally. In a D&D game. The fucking guild sign-up sheets are character sheets. What premise did you expect from this?

Here's actual discussion on the episode.

https://may.2chan.net/b/res/591100279.htm

>>867804

>second picture

The entire point of that arc was that the bee children were believed to be faeries, innocent beings that would help the children that are in pain. That rape isn't just for the sake of the shock value, it serves as a narrative break where the reader realizes that, oh shit, those aren't faeries, they're fucking apostles targeting children's yearning for freedom.

But no, you never read berserk, you just saved that one image so that you could attempt to make a point way out of context.

>>868022

The way you're thinking of it, it could be misinterpreted as meaning ero guro is something we regularly consume here. Even in English it can be misinterpreted as that.

The thing is Japanese don't have politics on their minds all the time like we do. They will assume you're talking about media rather than real life.

>>868047https://media.8ch.net/file_store/dbcd9e6b3cd09f823c0a6ac3ce713bfb593ee8109b909be442dc679af7f7edca.jpg

Did someone already make a butthurt video about internet nazis with only one episode out?

>>868062

More specifically, how did you fuck it up that bad?

>>867900

>It's because you come from a world that doesn't have creatures like goblins, similar to humans yet purely destructive and incapable of good

I beg to differ.

>>868060

>>868062

>The Pedantic Romantic

Retarded Tranny. Disregard their objectively incorrect opinions.

>>868081

Just when are you faggots going to admit you actually like seeing this shit?

>>868083

人間じゃ満足できない人間の雌に犯される世界もあるかもしれない

>>868083

Anon already did here. >>868018

>>868087

That wasn't my metaphor, but your point stands.

>>868083

Rape is only fappable when it's individual images that are human on human. Tentacles or monster like goblins are just disgusting, and in a manga or animation it lasts long enough that I just end up feeling bad for the victim. Though there are exceptions to the length part, like Touhou characters that I've been struggling with.

Can we talk about the goblins shitty lack of priorities when they tried to rape the elf mid fight against goblin slayer and company?

>>868097

>rape

>not top priority

>>868097

Choices:

>die

>bust a nut

Pick one.

>>868099

>I'm honestly getting to my fucking limit over how people can't wrap their heads around basic DnD morality.

Considering what they've been turning D&D into, it's not all that surprising. Gygax believed in an objective system of morality, but newer editions have been inching away from any kind of morality or alignment at all.

>>867979

There probably isn't anyone that knows more than killing goblins than goblin slayer in that world.

His power is weak but his skill is pretty high, considering he knows pretty much more than anyone else about goblins. Arnt the fake guts and female paladin partner of his came close to getting killed by a goblin champion? He was close shave from death. But now lets look at the Ogre Goblin slayer killed. He went in without knowing it was a Orge, yet he killed it his first time and didnt die compared to the other multiple silver ranked parties that went in and got killed by the Orge.

In some ways the ones that are alive might not be as strong as one ones from games or our expectations we have for them being silver ranked. But they are the ones alive and there is no excuse for death, no restart. So the ones that do survive killing these monsters must have something they poses that makes them accomplish killing these foes time and time again and live. Goblin Champions are considered silver ranked for goblins. So if you manage to kill multiple ones, shouldnt that make you a pretty damn good silver ranked?

His strength may like but what he really has is experience, tactics, technique etc. He is still human yet he manages to kill the super human or multiple ones left and right. I say he fits in as silver ranked but he really would need to stick to goblins.

>>868081

40_pound_box_of_rape.webm

>>868094

>you are conflating a disease with a disease causing pathogen

I realized my poor wording after I posted, but the point still gets across.

>no, it really isn't

Yes, it is. A race is composed of individuals, with the capability to make decisions. A pathogen does not have this capability; while it may also have individual units, they lack the ability to genuinely choose their actions.

A person who is not evil is not evil regardless of who they are. Even if they belong to a race more inclined to evil acts or with less decision-making ability, if they reject those acts they necessarily cannot be more evil than anyone else from any race who rejects them. To support ethnic cleansing is to reject the idea that a person is evil if they do evil things, cause evil outcomes, or have evil intentions. It requires you to claim that a person can do nothing but good things based on good intentions with good results, and still not be a good person for reasons that they have no influence over. Goblins differ in that they cannot choose not to do evil, having been created by the gods/GM specifically with evil in mind. There is no room in them even for mere harmlessness.

A goblin placed on a deserted island with a man and a woman will kill the man and rape the woman. Replace the goblin with another human, and the likelihood of evil acts goes from "will" to "may", and depends on the individuals. That makes all the difference in the world. Do some races have a higher probability than others? Absolutely, but it is never 0% or 100% from that factor alone. And those are the only thresholds that are absolute, without a relative comparison to an arbitrary "acceptable rate", about which one can always ask "why is it not lower/higher?".

This is why the series can still be enjoyed by people like me who consider real ethnic cleansing a wholly immoral act. It is not a case of "I want us to do that", it is a case of "if only it were that simple". Goblins are all bad and must be slain. The problem of killing a genuinely good goblin just for being a goblin is simply not a factor, because such an individual is fundamentally a contradiction. Whether a goblin is bad does not depend on the individual goblin like it does in the real world.

>>868057

It was obvious they weren't fairies long before that page.

>>868122

>all this cognitive dissonance

Damn, just admit you're a pussy and that you're afraid of reality.

>>868097

I thought goblins weren’t supposed to be fools, and yet they do this. Not exactly logically consistent.

>>867971

GS is an specialized adventurer who prefers going for cheap shit that does the job because he knows anything else is wasted on goblins. He isn't the kind of adventurer that goes head on against strong foes but uses traps and tactics to outplay them. If you want to compare Bootleg guts to GS, you may as well notice that Bootleg guts's equipment isn't fit to fight goblins.

>>868049

I don't see how it ruins the world building. It's just a guild's system that encourages doing quests and killing everything that moves. I don't think a goblin would give the same kind of points than stronger monsters yet, goblins are a real threat, like a festering wound that only gets worse if left untreated.

Other adventurers underestimate goblins, making it look like GS's just some chump that ranked up doing easy shit but the guild isn't as dumb as them and rewarded him properly.

>>868121

The difference between berserk and GS is that Berserk starts with the premise that guts is a piece of shit, the world he lives in is full of shitty people, shitty monsters and shitty demons. The world is dark and full of cold brutality, you know what you're getting into from the first page where guts gorily kills a semen demon he was fucking seconds ago.

GS's start is bait and switch, filthy secondaries who didn't spoil themselves may think these guys are just some initial party, shit won't go wrong and if it does it won't escalate to the point of no return, the aesthetics of the show also reinforce the idea that this is just some shounen isekai shit where people don't die when they're killed and the hero always arrives on time, so when shit hits the fan, they're hit by the realization that this isn't what they signed in for and start sperging about muh edginess.

>>868131

I doubt that's as much of a factor, when A Game of Thrones is the maintream standard for what TV can show.

They know rape can show up on TV, they just weren't expecting it here.

How far will the anime go? Ending with the Goblin Horde part and the Goblin Lord fight?

>>868129

>The difference between berserk and GS is that Berserk starts with the premise that guts is a piece of shit

><...>

>GS's start is bait and switch

This anon knows what's up. Exactly why goblin raping ended up bothering me much more than all the sick stuff in Berserk, which I actually rather enjoyed.

>>868134

The part where he teleports water and kills something not a goblin.

>>868134

Probably >>868137

They can't really go through the city sewer arc because it would take too much time, so chances are they'll introduce a filler episode at some point so they can end on the not-goblin fight in the Elven ruins. See >>867746

>>867677

>/tg/ has always loved Goblin Slayer since it was first introduced to them.

It's more a love-hate relationship but at this point there isn't any reason to recycle the arguments about why Goblin Slayer has shit worldbuilding and the type of game mastering techniques that would nominate the DM as 'That DM' whisking players off to his magical realm of rape happy little green men.

But it's still managed to endear itself to some, and as far as fantasy manga ongoing, the picking are slim so naturally the thing based off 5e is going to find a home on /tg/. It's not fit enough to hole Dungeon Meshi's jock strap.

>>868143

Is Goblin Slayer actually based off 5e? I had to go and double check, because 5e came out in the west in 2014 and the LN started in 2016, so I guess it's possible. I recall that the Guild registration sheets looked like 5e character sheets, but I wasn't sure if that was a little joke from the manga artist or not.

>>868147

>Is Goblin Slayer actually based off 5e?

Word of mouth is that the author based some of the idea off Tabletop games he played although on specifics or the system they used can be hammered out. There was an ascii web page posted in the early months of the manga coming out depicting the table talk of the players who were the fighter, mage, GS, and priest. But that could have just been a joke of some kind.

The 5e part comes from the manga using the 5e character sheet for new characters. Anything else is speculation and rumor. But even the rumor and the fact that this isn't an uncommon thing to happen for japanese properties (record of Lodoss wars was based off a bunch of people having played D&D as well) were enough to make it relevant for tabletop discussions.

>>868111

>There probably isn't anyone that knows more than killing goblins than goblin slayer in that world.

That'd make him a good strategist, not a good warrior. From what was described about gold and platinum ranks, you're supposed to be a powerful warrior to be ranked as such. I guess if silver is about number of kills that makes sense but then I wish there was more consistency on the ranking system.

> Arnt the fake guts and female paladin partner of his came close to getting killed by a goblin champion?

Same as goblin slayer first time he fought a goblin champion. And he had a bigger party. They were only 2 people.

>He went in without knowing it was a Orge, yet he killed it his first time and didnt die

You could say the same thing about that duo slaying the goblin champion. And they did it with a single blow, definitely killing him, not taking 2 attempts at it.

> So the ones that do survive killing these monsters must have something they poses that makes them accomplish killing these foes time and time again and live.

Surviving throughout years isn't that impressive considering every single character in the manga/LN says goblins are chumps.

>Champions are considered silver ranked for goblins. So if you manage to kill multiple ones, shouldnt that make you a pretty damn good silver ranked?

It would. And I would absolutely love to see him take one on, one on one. Here's the thing: in the manga, he specifically stated a goblin champion is supposed to be just as powerful as a silver ranked. yet it took him two tries to kill one. With a whole party. And he almost dies the first time and only barely scrapped by. Isn't he supposed to be able to kill him by himself if goblin champions are supposed to be as capable as a silver rank adventurer?

>His strength may like but what he really has is experience, tactics, technique etc

I am perfectly fine with his rank if it's about experience and tactics or kill count. But, and I'll put emphasis on this: In the manga, there are

MULTIPLE

instances where ranks are hinted to be about power. I'll name 3 of the top of my head: "Gold ranks take on national level problems", "I'm not a platinum rank (when pondering whether to take a hundred goblins by himself)", "goblin champions are said to be able to match a silver ranked adventurer".

>>868148

Well, for what it's worth, word around town is that D&D really isn't that popular in Nippon nowadays. Call of Cthulhu is the favorite system by far, and numerous original systems exist only in Japan as well. Wouldn't surprise me if it was some version of D&D, though, seeing as it has such a strong place in pop culture as the thing which brought the concept of adventurers, dungeon crawling, leveling, classes, and goblins to the collective consciousness.

>>868129

> If you want to compare Bootleg guts to GS, you may as well notice that Bootleg guts's equipment isn't fit to fight goblins.

It is pretty fight to fight goblin champions, though. Considering goblin slayer has to fight a champion once in a while, you could say he doesn't have the fittest tools for the job all the time. At the very least I'd be fine if he carried/had one of his buddies carry a spare longer sword or halberd or something for the not-that-rare occasion where he has to fight a champion on a field that's more open than a cave.

>>868158

Pretty fit*

>>868156

>word around town is that D&D really isn't that popular in Nippon nowadays.

At least from what I've heard as far as the current market for fantasy tabletop games go there is a battle between D&D 5e, Pathfinder, and Sword World 2.5. I don't have the figures but it's worth noting that D&D is the only RPG from outside of Japan to have every edition brought over and the scene for it is stated to be very strong. But obviously Sword World has the home field advantage despite being derived heavily from D&D since Sword World rose out of the Lodoss wars replays.

But there is cross pollination between the DnD and Sword World groups. Then there are the other games surrounding this like Double Cross which was also one of the more popular systems in Japan for a time and still has a hardcore following from what I've read.

>Call of Cthulhu is the favorite system by far

Chaosium has found a really their niche and they've been pumping out titles in Japan for decades. Although I'm curious why Delta Green hasn't had similar presence.

>>868129

>GS is an specialized adventurer who prefers going for cheap shit that does the job because he knows anything else is wasted on goblins.

It doesn't stop there. I recall one reason he chooses trash equipment is so that if the goblins ever beat him, the loot taken off his corpse will be broken trash. GS's autistic spite toward gobbos truly knows no bounds.

Do more girls get gobbed in the series?

>>868173

Filthy Secondary.

Yes, but it's mostly off-screen until Volume 5. The Manga is on like volume 2 so take that as you will.

>>868122

>Yes, it is. A race is composed of individuals, with the capability to make decisions.

Clearly you don't have enough experience with the lower races. I think ours are worse than goblins, because it is possible for humans and goblins to exist simultaneously. Goblins create more goblins, and humans create more humans. Niggers create mutts that are equivalent to a biological weapon.

are people here actually mad for there to be a rape in the anime ?

I just assumed they were just larping fragile and insecure normalfags.

>>868194

But anon! Don't you know rape is worse than murder?

>>868146

Is this the main story or the side story?

>>868194

I'm not made about that, I'm mad about the goblins being evil mary sues because >muh arrogance.

>>868155

>Goblins are chums.

>Story starts off with a party of 4 getting blown the fuck out by "Chum" goblins.

>Hobgoblin? arc shows a back story of how that one goblin grew and each phase of it's life showed it killed someone who took goblins for chums.

There is no money in hunting goblins. Even in the main battle for the farm people rushed out because they thought they were chums and died. People who take goblins are chums don't go out in caves in THEIR territory where goblins ambush, rape and kill 24/7. Considering Slayer has to change how he fights because of the party, he would have came out on top while tending to the needs of his party with their BS rules.

Goblin Slayer has some accomplishments and a very good consitstsncy for hunting goblins. considering he has THAT much gold to offer a bounty to kill goblins and some how has enough money despite the claims that nobody makes money off of goblins.

Goblin Slayer uses his experience and expertise and still applies it go different situations. You ignored that the other orge killed how many silver ranked? Yes some how goblin Slayer is still on the bottom rank. the only time I feel goblin Slayer was under powered was when he killed the boss of of farm invasion arc.

>>868006

> but can anybody remember anime based off a manga adaptation of an LN, that overran the manga and started adapting the LN directly?

Anime adaptations of light novels almost always directly adapt the LN and not the manga. I'm pretty sure the same is true for Goblin Slayer.

>>867777

>>867779

Take your meds anon, you're overanalzying and ranting autistically.

Point? Waht point? There is no point. And the troll rape in Berserk wasn't vital to any character development. Town down your BS.

>>867811

>adventurers are a profession like in a video game.

What are mercenaries?

>>867829

>Having no females of you're own is a terrible flaw for any species and it means they have to risk death to even reproduce.

Plenty of Animals in our world do just that.

With some (preying mantis, some spiders) death is certain.

A lot of parasitic creatures require a host to reproduce, always risking their own survival.

This is offset by large numebr of offspring and rapid growth.

>>868194

It's very odd hearing complaints about the rape being sexualised. What do these people think rape even is, just beating someone up? It is literally sex, of course it's sexual and there's no getting around that.

Bump limit is 250 replies.

>>868236

That doesn't mean we need new thread after thread. At least wait until the thread goes over page 5. We now have three threads for the same show within the first 5 pages.

In fact no, we're not keeping it like this. I have deleted the next thread on grounds of being way too early, you can remake it when this hits page 5 or the next episode airs (whichever comes first).

>>868250

The Unique IP count of the board has gone up by about 1/6 in the past four days. It's no surprise there are people who don't know how things are done.

>>868229

As a Psychological philosophizing doctor with a 33rd degree in my field, I agree with you.

>>868236

Should we hold off until next week's episode, or make a new thread when this hits page 3 or 4?

>>868302

>>868252

Nevermind, that's what I get for replying as I read posts.

>>868300

They can probably fuck anything mammalian and have it spit out children, yes. There's no lore around this at all so it's fair to assume there's no genetic relevance to elves-humans-goblins and what have you.

>>868302

Just wait 'til next week's episode.

>>868165

>Although I'm curious why Delta Green hasn't had similar presence.

Sad but that could also be said about the western release. Cthulhu has a huge advantage by being based off the "mythos", which every hipster "nerd" knows about, and it will get only more popular since you can freely use Lovecrafts material without any legal consequences.

>>868201

>a party of 4

A party of even bigger chums than the goblins that have never been on an adventure before and are outsmarted even by creatures with IQ of human children.

I'm only repeating what the manga explicitly states: every character says that goblins are garbage. I'm assuming they mean the regular ones and not the champions or hobgoblins.

>>868201

Goblin slayer makes money off of his exploits killing goblins because he runs solo all the time and doesn't have standard equipment or maintain anything other than his armor. He discards his weapon after it gets stuck in a goblin because it's easier to just use theirs, since they're basically tooled for the goblin's primary cave environment. The jobs also don't pay for the average size of an adventurer party and their significant upkeep at the higher tiers, but GS isn't a glory seeker so he sleeps in a stable and kills greenskins.

>>867523

Say you hate wolves. Wolves eat livestock causing people to starve, and sometimes grow bold enough to eat people. Back in the day people in Europe really, really hated wolves.

A lot of them still wouldn't like seeing wolf puppies beaten to death with a club.

>>868308

>outsmarted even by creatures with IQ of human children.

Well, that average goblin is pretty dumb. They are easiely distracted, quick to anger and they have little reagards for their own lifes. Their stupidity is also what makes the effective under a smart leader. They are basically perma-drugged up child soldiers. Give them an order that gives half the goblins killed? They probably just laugh at those dead idiots, rather than consider that they themselves could have been a corpse.

>I'm assuming they mean the regular ones and not the champions or hobgoblins.

Of course. Just look at they fight scene in this episode. The sword guy took about quite few just by swinging his weapon like crazy. Monk might have been just as effective if not for the Hob.

How do you think a regular goblin attack looks if they don't have an experienced leader? They'd get their asses kicked by some dirtfarmers.

>>868201

>considering he has THAT much gold to offer a bounty to kill goblins and some how has enough money despite the claims that nobody makes money off of goblins.

That was his life savings from hunting goblins for years, anon. What generally happens is Goblin Slayer saves a village and gets chump change because villagers are poor, and maybe a chicken or goat for his efforts if he's lucky, which he proceeds to give to cow girl or guild girl to sell off for him. Most of the time it's the guild subsidizing his expenses that allows him to even hunt goblins in the first place. It's like how in an RPG you can grind on low-level enemies to get great gear early on, but you spend ten times longer doing that compared to risking your neck once or twice against a stronger enemy that would be easy to beat with the better (expensive) gear. Similarly, goblins are the "best" payment for low-level adventurers, and since most adventurers are second or third sons of farming families and probably have experience killing a stray goblin here or there that wandered onto their property, they figure it's an easy kill. It's like how a country boy gets a job as an exterminator and figures he can smack a coon over the head with a hammer before realizing city raccoons have no natural predators and are damn near the size of a medium dog.

>>868313

He didn't beat them though, he smacked them over the head once killing them instantly. Why would you waste time beating a goblin when that time could be spent killing other goblins/researching ways to kill goblins, anon?

>>868308

>and are outsmarted even by creatures with IQ of human children.

You've never hunted wild hogs in the Southern US, have you?

>>868313

Wolf cubs are a lot cuter than goblins. Wolves in general are a lot more appealing to humans than naked green goat-eyed gremlins. Also helps that they don't rape humans.

>>868345

The answer is highly centralized government and overtly bureaucratic spending.

If there was anything even remotely resembling another nation that wanted to conquer them in the lore they'd already be done and dashed. It's just that they exist in a (relative) vacuum, think mountains and deserts on all sides of their kingdom, and the only major way in is over water.

>>868345

>There is no excuse of dragons and liches running around warranting overlooking Goblins

Are you sure about that? It's the standard explanation for the Forgotten Realms/Grayhawk-type settings GS is based off.

>>868350

>It's the standard explanation for the Forgotten Realms/Grayhawk

That's too specific. I'd say just about every /v/ or /tg/ fantasy setting you have ever played in is far more fitting.

>>867760

Even better reason to gob all of them.

>>867798

I wish I could just finish off what gobs started.

>>868345

>Why don't they actually start training people like an actual guild would do?

In the manga there's a scene where Guild Girl explains to GS they're in the process of setting up a training regime and asks him to stay alive to train up the newfags when he retires.

>>867909

>what merits does this show have?

It shows what a classic RPG (D&D) world would actually look like seen from the people living in it.

A world devoid of hope, were human are merely playthings of gods.

One day a min/max autist decide to go on a one man genocide...

>>868315

Right. It was Gut's first time fighting a goblin champion, and he did pretty well considering the circumstances. From what I gather, he'd probably be fine by himself fighting one next time he sees one, he just needed that little bit of experience.

Considering that, then goblin champions are indeed on equal terms with silver ranks. Except for Orcbolg. And maybe the rest of his party, if they're silver. I forgot what they were.

>Hipster "anitubers" shitting on Goblin Slayer because of the first scenes

>They don't even get the point of the rape

Looks like we finally got a series without normalfags in the fanbase.

>>868470

I even found the rape to be underwhelming. Even the manga which is slightly more brutal isn't enough to fap. It's like they've never seen rape in anime/manga even though it's so fucking common, and then comment out of ignorance.

>>868366

What could possibly be the reason to cover it up?

Do they actually want the goblin population to rise thanks to women being captured and raped? Do they intend to have more people fight the goblins due to the idea of goblins being weak being spread out?

Do they intend to have people not fight the goblins due to rewards being low thanks to this spread out propaganda?

>>868473

It could be misconception within another layer of misconception, like Skaven in Warhammer. Skaven wereare fuck sigmarines officially regarded as a myth, but even the conspiracy suppressing their existence in Bretonia merely believe them to be another unremarkable race of beastmen rather than an underground empire with its own god capable of rivaling any other major world power.

>>868473

He's not proposing it because he thinks it's a likely and reasonable explanation. He's proposing it because he wants this to be /pol/: the Anime.

>>868470

>without normalfags

Normalfags flock to edgy shit like flies to actual shit. You're deluding yourself if you think this won't be popular among them.

>>868350

>Are you sure about that?

Yes, the frontier region from volume 1 doesn't see the kinds of things the front-line of the war sees. There is no greater threat mentioned that would justify overlooking goblins the way they are done. That stuff is more a volume 2+ plot device.

>The answer is highly centralized government and overtly bureaucratic spending.

There's no spending to speak of because outside of the money put up to help with the farmhouse raid, we have no idea what the Guild does to actually manage their personal finances. Like, they can afford to keep truth-saying priests on the payroll to make sure that their promotion system isn't cheated. But they can't subsidize the pay of certain missions in order to ensure the right skill levels take the jobs?

>>868432

And it never occurred for them to start training people until one of their clerks got their panties moist over Goblin Slayer? They knew they had a problem and want to get rid of it. But their solution is to keep sending untrained, literate idiots who just walked in on these jobs.

This is worse than Grimgar where there is a school dedicated to teaching each class their basic skills, but the white mage guild never warns against wasting healing spells on minor injuries, or not being a frontline fighter/rear guard. Two things that usually result in the death of the white mage as a common occurrence.

>>868478

To be fair, this shit has so many holes that this types of explanations happening is to be expected.

>>868508

We know that they're the ones that train all the clerks and shit, like the priestess character. If what you're saying is correct, then they should've sabotaged the clerks as well somehow, since they want human kind to go to shit.

>>868483

>And it never occurred for them to start training people until one of their clerks got their panties moist over Goblin Slayer?

It might well be because they're all pawns and are stuck on their own algorithms that don't include that behavior. From that perspective GS is the anomaly that is not only ploughing through all the obstacles before him out of his own autism but is also influencing those around him to do the same.

>>868483

>This is worse than Grimgar where there is a school dedicated to teaching each class their basic skills, but the white mage guild never warns against wasting healing spells on minor injuries, or not being a frontline fighter/rear guard. Two things that usually result in the death of the white mage as a common occurrence.

I always took that as the healers being overly cautious and trying to keep their party in top condition just because they don't like seeing their friends in pain.

>>868473

>What could possibly be the reason to cover it up?

This world has a demon king and all that nonsense. You don't think a competent demon king would try to infiltrate their enemy's aristocracy?

>>868478

Also this.

>>868305

Filthy secondary here. Where do hobs come from? Is it stated, or did some gob get lucky with an ogre, or something?

>>868552

Basically if a goblin survives his den being purged and is forced into hardship from surviving living on his own without a tribe for a length of time, there's a high chance he'll evolve into a rare goblin breed such as a shaman or hobgoblin. This process happens repeatedly in that goblins "level up" in this world much in the way adventurers get stronger. Eventually they become "champions" and if they develop the brains after that, they can become a king.

>>868558

>More than they can true

More than they can chew.* This is what I get for typing at 3AM.

>>868559

Fair enough. I had it in my head that there was some other 'mechanic' at work, like rare goblin types being related to the mother, or something. Thanks.

>>868566

Grimgar is still stupid even if you just say it's a bit less stupid than it's contemporaries.

>>868584

>you will never be a /k/onjurer

>>868659

Sweet naivety.

>>868679

>the feudal times that is modeled on, weren't a period in which humanity had mastered its environment

This is true. Back in the middle ages being banished from your town was pretty much a death sentence for most people. You wouldn't be able to get anywhere alone with all the wild animals and brigands fucking around at night.

>>868680

I can't find it with a quick search, but I vaguely recall reading about entire military companies still occasionally being lost to giant packs of wolves and such as late as the 1200s.

>>868659

By that logic, shouldn't sandniggers have been genocided centuries ago?

>>868700

I don't see how. He was talking about "an entire race of creature whose sole modus operandi and mens rea is to rape and torture." That description doesn't apply.

>>868700

Seconding >>868702 in this case, sandniggers have been a sea apart from Europe forever, and the few times they did make a foray into mainland Europe they were genocided and sent back to wherever they went.

The goblins are under every fucking rock here apparently, and thus are a much more prominent and obvious threat.

>>868700

Niggers and taconiggers too.

>>868738

Yes, but the difference is goblins exist solely to rape and kill.

>>868740

Real life goblins do the same thing

>>868804

>I'm getting annoyed by you people now.

Amen.

I hope the medios take the chance to get a little more stringent for the next thread. Even rule 11 has been rather lax for these first two.

>>868804

Oops, almost forgot to respond to

>But you also know what the real age of knights and horses didn't have?

>Magic

The savages, monsters, animals, and the weather itself would have that too, granting a massive advantage to the rivals of civilization. Even worse, there aren't just rival civilizations and tribes of humans or even metahumans like dwarves/elves/lizardmen/etc, but all sorts of other malign intelligences like angels, demons, dragons, etc.

This is why (much like the IRL premodern world) the map in a typical fantasy setting is covered in overgrown ruins of fallen civilizations, sealed up forgotten monstrosities, swathes of uncharted forest/desert/mountain, and every currently populated city has been completely rebuilt too many times to count.

>>868804

I don't even like /pol/niggers anon, but anon was trying to make an imperium of man-tier justification of why goblins should have been genocided like some city faggot who's never lived in the countryside, so of course I'm going to use the metaphor as a counterattack if his very logic for why goblins shouldn't exist is /pol/-tier garbage. People assume humans are competent. We are not. We're not bumbling retards, but the vast majority of humans aren't at the level of processing information in such a way to produce the best results, and the ones that are, are generally restricted by their surroundings and/or peers.

>>868679

The europeans fucked the Gray Wolf population to near extinction because they hated having their chickens and children killed.

Why would villages whose sole job it is, is to survive out in the frontier not have their own means of repelling and hunting down goblins? They are easy to take down in the early stages and it's not until they basically live long enough to hit Hobgoblin/Shaman/Champion/Lord/paladin that they become something a regular human with a farming implement couldn't handle. Better yet, since they are so fond of caves, just smoking them out would be basic protocol, setting up a watch and burning wood and debris at the entrance until they come fleeing out only to be hacked down by a bunch of lumberjacks, farmers, and other people who work all day for a living.

The sheer fact that these villages universally go to the guild first when Goblins start making moves, or simply wait too long to react and don't notice the early signs like tracks leading from the chicken coop. makes no sense no matter how much people wax on and off about supposed greater threats keeping humanity as a collective from just stomping out the green scourge.

>>868892

It only took them 2 millennia to do so too. Wow. So fast.

>>868866

You left out the part where they steal women at every possible opportunity. If goblins were just taking crops, this would be a very different series.

>>868892

>The europeans fucked the Gray Wolf population to near extinction because they hated having their chickens and children killed.

You neglect to mention it took until the late 1800's to mid 1900's to do so. For an effective genocide of an entire animal species you need guns and a population with disposable time.

>>869092

>the difference between you and /pol/acks is that they have higher standards for what they call human or human behavior.

The difference between us and /pol/acks is the difference between saying race is A factor and saying race is the ONLY factor.

There are only two positions compatible with genocidal rhetoric: either they think it is literally impossible for any member of lesser races to be worth keeping alive as an individual, or they think it is worth slaughtering innocents because it's too much bother to sort the good from the bad. The former is completely unsupported by reality, and the latter is appalling to anyone with any sense of morality.

>>869125

Praytell, what other factors play a significant role in their behavior?

>>869140

Honestly this whole discussion is a rule 9 and should go somewhere else.

>>869145

Just get it limited to goblins and its ok.

>>869125

>There are only two positions compatible with genocidal rhetoric

>both of them exist in my interpretation of things that avoids reality

Neither of these cases apply for the goblin genocide that we're witnessing here. Very often are there races that are not worth keeping around because they are competing races. Your position stems from the perspective of being the all-seeing master, which you're not, so quit trying to grandstand about fucking goblin genocide in an anime you mongoloid. Go be closed-minded somewhere else and let me enjoy my goblin slaughter in peace without dealing with your 3D moral dilemma that's going to be resolved entirely without your moot and solipsistic input, you gaylord.

>>869144

>>869047

Also they don't steal women at every possible opportunity. They only do so when they feel they can get away with it, or when their numbers are too big to control under normal means. This is stated pretty outright in the manga I thought.

>>869148

>Go be closed-minded somewhere else and let me enjoy my goblin slaughter in peace

Try paying a little more attention. This entire issue, across the full two threads, has been because /pol/tards won't shut up about how goblins are literally niggers.

>Neither of these cases apply for the goblin genocide that we're witnessing here.

Yes, one of them does, which is the case that no single individual goblin is capable of not being evil. That's the entire goddamn point: goblins are a pure case that does not reflect reality, no matter how much /pol/tards pretend it does, so they need to give it a fucking rest.

>Your position stems from the perspective of being the all-seeing master

Well, obviously. That's kind of what you want to aim for for objective morality.

>>869153

>I will engage in discourse with /pol/tards instead of just reporting them for crossboarding because I must prove them wrong with my subjective and opinionated posts

I don't even agree with your perspective and this is still retarded.

Reason we cannot have nice things, ad infinitum.

>>869162

>just report them

It was clear by halfway through the first thread that Rule 9 wasn't going to be as strictly applied as it ought to be. The head meido have even posted in here about new thread creation without addressing the politics.

Hopefully the new thread will be a fresh start, with rule 9 more strictly enforced, and we can put all of this behind us.

>>868659

sweet jesus you are over analyzing this, its a vehicle to tell stories.

Why are the orcs in the Lotr allowed to multiply enough that they become a threat? Because the story demands it. Be it stupid policies or Saurons magic dick creating them by the thousands, an enemy is needed. Otherwise we'll just skip to the ending and call it a day but that makes for shit story telling.

>In the real world we both work on studying and handling Ebola to the utmost

How about Aids? Hows that working out for us? Just because something is a threat doesn't mean people focus all their energy on it. Plus ebola is still nowhere near close to being cured.

>PTSD

No one gives a shit about PTSD, if we did we wouldn't treat our soldiers like shit and force them to fight stupid wars.

>>869211

>AIDS

I don't know if that's applicable since bugchasing is a thing. Plus, people with aids get really lazy with taking their medication to subdue and get rid of HIV, so you end up with

MED RESISTANT AIDS

in cases where you probably shouldn't.

Goblins are probably in some grand conspiracy seeing as they're learning things they shouldn't know and appearing in places they shouldn't be, and thus are more likely to be likened to one of those mutating influenza deployed via duck anus and other waterfowl seasonally.

>>869088

The conditions for effective goblin population management if not outright regional genocide is far more in the favor of farmers. Goblins at the stage where they just steal livestock or crops have not reached sufficient numbers or sufficient strength to resit a human attack.

The story is clear on the lifecycle. Goblin into wanderer. Which is a more experienced one. Into any of the other variants like shaman or hobgoblin. But base goblins are weak and stupid.

Just track them down by the obvious tracks and smoke them out.

At the point in which goblins reach enough brass, numbers, evolutions, culture and cunning to kidnap women it'd time to call in the bigger guns. But it's clear the only reason goblins have regularly been able to overwhelm villages and present a problem is because they are ignored until they reach critical mass.

So I still argue shit farmers could handle this themselves with field implements and a days work for the starring goblin cave. Unlike wolvrs, goblins are a humanoid target and not as naturally elusive.

>>869244

>And not as naturally elusive

Pretty sure this was proven wrong before the manga chapters reached double digits.

>>869248

that is attributed to ogres and dark elves guiding them.

>>867421

Stupid adventurer girl with no skill in combat got gobbo’d

This show proves that women are useless in war or even in combat, because at the end of the day they piss them selves

>>868659

>Not when they kidnap, mutilate and incessantly mass gangrape pregnant

If people are paid the equivalent of pest extermination for killing them, they are. You fail to realize that the help they crave so badly is provided by hired swords. not some feudal guard or something like that, that has a duty to help them for "free".

>There is no equivalent to real life because in real life man would have exterminated gobs long ago through natural ingenuity, necessity and profiteering. You'd have entire militias dedicated to gobs then you'd have entire guilds and then entire money-making companies each competing to eradicate gobs.

Sure, they sure would be competing for the few coins farmers could afford to pay them. Do you think people will make a whole enterprise revolving around something that's not profitable? That's also the main reason adventurers refuse to take goblin quests, because they're fucking annoying and the pay is low.

>The reality of mass rape impregnation and lasting PTSD would be taught from childhood so people know the potential threat of gobs. It would be taught in schools for training adventurers as introductory studies to monsters. This is excruciatingly basic but somehow none of this is globally known and if it is it's not considered for half a blink's second.

Villagers know goblins are dangerous, that's why they request the guild's help but the guild is short handed, those capable of taking them won't do it and the task is given to noobs who don't know how to deal with the unexpected difficulty coming from goblin tactics.

>School for adventurers.

What makes you think such thing exists? The guild is practically a mercenary agency with a membership. Who know what the literacy rate is in this world. Villages don't have schools so there's no way to find how effective an "adventurer school" would be. There's also the financing of the school, who is going to pay for the building of it? who is going to pay for the teachers? How will those people recover their investing since noobs are poor as fuck and won't be able to pay for it?

>The issue is not the idea that there are bigger threats around, anon. The issue is that mankind would ever in any conceivable reality overlook an entire race of creature whose sole modus operandi and mens rea is to rape and torture.

You imply humanity overlooked them and not that they had neglect their hunting due to a higher threat. Right now there's a big crisis with the demon army attacking the nation. Capable adventurers are requested to help with this and the pay is most likely high. This produces a big influx of job opportunities with the demon army invading so adventurers started mobilizing towards what could bring them more riches. The result is a total centralization of talent in an area while the rest is neglected, goblins could have taken advantage of this chance to increase their numbers. Even if their numbers were low before, if given enough time they would go back to a healthy population thanks to their breeding speed. it isn't really specified if they need humanoid races to reproduce so who know what they could have fucked to pop goblins back to a decent number.

Last but not less, the fact that the Ogre was in the same ruins with goblins points that at least some goblins are also related to the demon army. If goblins took refuge in enemy territory when they were being hunted, it would have been impossible to completely eradicate them. And they would just need to be allowed mobilization by their superiors to go back to the frontier and slowly creep their way into areas with low security where people will have a harder time asking for help and even a harder time getting it.

>>869362

It should be noted from the manga that most adventurers do have some form of formal training tying back to adventuring whether it's magician school, dojos, or the church, so the adventurer's guild might not consider it necessary to expend extra money on people who could be dead in a week. I like the way Sevens handles this aspect. New adventurers can take out a loan (or pay upfront) a decent sum of gold to have an expert adventurer take them around and train them on "how to not die on year one of adventuring" for a month or so. It's not required, but adventurers who don't take an expert's advice have a much lower success rate in the industry.

>>867549

Faggot.

>>868804

>Man didn't master his environment back in the armored horse and plate armor days?

How many people do you think could afford a plate armor back then? You could literally buy a handful of villages for less.

>>869145

>9. Tangentially related political content/images should be posted on your preference of >>>/pol/ or >>>/leftypol/.