No.862145
In this episode Enri finally summons her CG army to fight the other CG soldiers.
No.862150
>>862145
Why did they even animate those? They're fucking goblins, just draw one and copy paste that crap.
No.862157
>that CGI
Well, my hopes are now crushed for the next episode. This amount of QUALITY felt like I was being trampled on. Instead of string cutting, we got some budget cutting.
No.862159
And here I thought that we had enough goblin episodes for this season.
No.862160
>>862157
>SPLAT will also be awful CG
No.862161
>>862150
>Why did they even animate those?
They clearly didn't.
The only "animation" is them marching...
No.862164
>awful CG
What are you talking about? That PS1 game looks amazing!
No.862171
>>862145
>Setting your safety net on fire by cutting both the funds AND plot points from Overlod
>Kemono friends on fucking fire
>Vanguard slowly falling off relevancy
So Kadokawa is the EA of anime then?
No.862172
>>862145
>they aren't even gripping their staff properly
Why even bother?
No.862173
I haven't seen gif-on-gif violence like this in years. Now I'm feeling nostalgic. Where's my Warcraft CD?
No.862175
I don't fucking get it. If a good team of animators is given CGI is this really all they can come up with? If so what even is the argument for having it at all?
No.862176
>>862171
That would be a fun crossover.
No.862177
>>862175
Houseki no Kuni CGI was the best I've seen, they'd storyboard and animate a bit on 2D and then pass it to 3D I believe. I'd still think 2D is the best but Houseki no Kuni was ok in regards to CGI.
No.862178
>>862177
That's incomprehensible too, if you'd seen the latest Gantz movie you'd know that CGI can be done well. I don't get what stops them from doing it well though.
No.862184
>>862178
>I don't get what stops them from doing it well though.
3D is outsourced to chinks.
The insanity is that nearly everything in overlord S3 so far that is in 3d can be done in 2d for LESS WORK.
They put it everywhere to justify the cost of having to outsource it to a 3d studio/team. The prime example of that is the 2 Emperors meeting. 99% of it is fucking STILLS and backgrounds yet they're in 3D.
I'd rather have fucking QUALITY cuts where they just don't do the mass models scene and simply put the audio than that horrible shit everywhere.
No.862195
I hope this chinese shit doesn't get another season, the holy kingdom arc would be horrifying.
No.862198
>>862195
One gripe I forgot to mention:
Is the prince supposed to be so retarded he can't into baby tier tactics? Why didn't he try to at least flank them, you got the fucking cavalry running along side the enemy formation, and to top it off, on the side of the wall rather than the field.
Is this suppose the be this way or is the anime just retarded?
No.862199
>>862184
This. The whole point of CG is for cheap dynamic movement. Any repetitive or basically still frame scene with a moving mouth (if even that) is cheaper to produce in 2D.
No.862200
I want this season to bomb and for there not to be a fourth.
No.862201
>>862198
>One gripe I forgot to mention: Is the prince supposed to be so retarded he can't into baby tier tactics?
Actually yes. That's literally what is mentioned in the LN is the prince is an idiot who was trying to get some easy peasant whores/food along the way to where he was marching while his generals told him not to bother/to keep marching. He's an idiot as a general who relies on numbers, and that is outright stated repeatedly in the LN.
No.862204
>>862198
I'm pretty sure the battle is meant to take place in front of the village, at least after the goblin army reach the front gate, since the LN mentions that one of the reasons the villagers who stayed behind got away was because the Kingdom's troops had gotten the order to retreat and reform their line.
No.862207
>>862201
So, evil is winning in this world because everyone else is fucking incompetent?
No.862210
I told you about the Goblins, I fucking warned you. They always ruin everything.
No.862214
>>862207
Those leading the main army are competent, the prince was deliberately sent to the middle of nowhere to avoid fucking things up.
No.862215
>>862207
No, there are some extremely competent characters that just can't really deal with Ainz due to him fucking with them too much.
No.862216
>>862214
Yet he did.
Is there any other Isekaied player to be a hero against the monster Momonka turned into?
No.862217
>>862207
Just like in the real world!
Jokes aside, in the LN it's made painfully obvious that, within The Kingdom, people in charge tend to be incompetent to the utmost. Made even more obvious by Albedo's future husband. The few exceptions are the second prince, the princess and Marquis Raeven. The Empire also used to be this way, until the current Emperor took over, killed most of the nobles and turned it into a meritocracy. The Theocracy is 100% run on a mix of eugenics and meritocracy. Them being aware that their very survival is at stake due to being weak humans, they go all out on having competent people in charge, and they want powerful individuals to breed more powerful individuals.
No.862220
>>862217
So they are breeding levels in?
No.862221
>>862210
This is a goblin neighborhood now, move along.
No.862223
To be frank, as a secondary who is reading the light novels I found this episode quite entertaining with all the different goblin corps poppin out nowhere.
No.862227
>>862221
Quite nice we go back to Goblinlord before the season ends.
No.862229
>>862198
>Is the prince supposed to be so retarded he can't into baby tier tactics?
He is, if you had payed attention the king doesn't retire because he wants the 2nd prince to inherit but can't because the 1st prince is heir by right.
That's why Brain think Gazzef is gonna ask him to assassinate him while he's away from the main army and they would chalk if off to an imperial ambush.
No.862230
>>862229
He thought he was just a hot head and a bit on the dim side of things, not absolutely retarded.
Did Demiurge send to kill him because he's a afraid he's so retarded he might outsmart by being unpredictably retarded?
No.862231
>>862220
>So they are breeding levels in?
They appear to have a complex system of bloodline where the priests probably pick who gets paired off like in Dune and can even enforce polygamist marriage.
Meanwhile there is a scene where the top clergy show up in the conference room and it's rarely used so they clean it up autisticly before the meeting and it's explain that in the theocracy the higher you are in the clergy the more you're excepted to have abandoned material possession (they get no wage and have no servants or anything that might lead to corruption) and only have desire to serve the State in a very spartan/imperialist/fascist mindset.
No.862233
>>862230
>he was just a hot head and a bit on the dim side of things
Everyone is aware the 1st Prince main backer actually works for the Empire, the king mention it himself.
If the king abdicate the 1st prince becomes king and the Kingdom become the Empire puppet state which will be quickly followed by invasion/betrayal and the 1st Prince main backer becoming Great Duke of Re-Estize marrying him or his son to Renner (or worst the emperor marries Renner) and both princes dead and the line extinct.
If that's "a bit dim" I don't know what "full retard" means to you.
No.862235
Didn't see the new thread. Lupu was really cute this episode, cheered me up from all the bad CG
No.862295
How can someone have watched this shit and said "yes, this is good. We can air this on TV with our names attached to it"?
No.862299
>>862295
I only hope the people at the top feel as sickened by this as we do.
No.862301
What makes this even worse is I forgot about this part entirely and I was expecting splat.
No.862321
Surely they will fix everything in the blurays, right? I wish
What a way to drag down that season 1 which drew so many people to the series.
>>862295
It looks like some shitty mobile game, what the fuck.
No.862327
>>862321
Even season 1 had shit CGI, did the shaltear fight have it? I don't remember. If it did it must've been higher quality.
No.862329
You could literally make a better battle scene by throwing some custom models into Mount and Blade or a Total War game or something and recording your screen.
No.862330
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Even if the CG was shit, I'd still want to be pushed down by Enri.
No.862334
>>862330
You sure you can keep up?
I hope you realize it's canon that Nphirea had to devote his alchemical production to stamina potions to satisfy her.
No.862335
>>862334
Getting fucked to exhaustion is my fetish.
No.862337
Did they animate Ainz feeling up Aura's waist while traveling in the forest near E-Rantel? I'm waiting on the blu-ray version, so I haven't watched this new season.
>>862335
It's everyone's fetish.
No.862345
>>862295
Yeah, worst part, absolutely retarded. Still looks better than badserk I was okay with shitty looking solders and goblins, but this part was just awful.
No.862352
>>862295
Looks like a fucking PS1 game, holy shit
No.862356
>>862329
I went back and rewatched the cemetary fight from season one. CG skeletons there, but jesus, at least they were half-decently animated, and not 100% copy-pasted like these goblin brigades. They even mixed in normal animation! For the studio's sake I hope they were just saving their budget for the finale.
No.862357
>>862334
WAIT where does it say that?
No.862364
>You will never have an army of bad CG
No.862381
>>862337
Yes. But as a secondary I can't tell you how accurate to the LN it was.
No.862391
>>862357
It says it a lot and Ainz is constantly thinking about how successful Nphirea is with his love life in comparison to him.
No.862392
>>862357
In the latest volume. It turns out that Ainz and Nfirea's weekly meetings have turned into reports about how he can't develop anything but better stamina potions because his wife is such a sexual beast that he needs to keep chugging better and better potions to keep up.
Ainz does not know how to feel about this, but is at least getting pretty cool stam potions out of it.
No.862400
>>862357
Have some choice quotes, especially pic three.
Don't underestimate the great general.
No.862411
>>862400
Imagine being ordered by the emperor to fuck your hot wife and have lots of children, because it's now your day job. What a life.
No.862434
>>862417
>That /fit/ scout dyke is still alive.
Nice. I thought we'd never see her again.
No.862457
>>862434
yeah, she stops being an adventurer and moves into carne village, I think it's first mentioned in volume 8, though it's more implied that it is her, as I don't think Brita is specifically named for a while.
No.862458
>>862216
Of course he did, he's a god-damned prince. To a degree, whatever he says goes.
Remember that he volunteered himself to lead an army. This was a retarded idea for a number of reasons, not least because he's kind of a moron. The Noble Faction wanted to let him lead an army because they're trying to ruin the royal family, while the Royal Faction is doing all they can to minimize the damage by sending him out of the way to do busywork.
No.862459
>>862330
Enri is a high-tier waifu. The only kind of flaw I can see regarding her vs some of the Nazarick people is that she's not literally immortal.
No.862462
>>862459
But anon, she is a real human bean, which means you can put a baby in her. That's got to count for something.
No.862481
>>862457
>she stops being an adventurer
I'd do the same, before I'm forced to stop living like all my former party members. She got real lucky there.
No.862521
>>862458
Yeah, but he just wanted to participate in annual war. But that shit is retarded anyway, a lot of dumb characters portrayed as too dumb to live.
No.862549
>>862459
>Enri is a high-tier waifu.
I never understood how anons could waifu a girl who actually fucks someone/is married or in a relationship with someone.
No.862554
It's not the ghost bug though that's been happening occasionally. It's just 8chan shitting the bed right now. If you can, log into a vol account for some random board you've made (or use the guest one mentioned in the FAQ) and post through that. the sys.8ch.net server seems to be shitting the bed less right now.
Polite sage.
No.862627
>>862171
Bonus points: Pierrot demonstrated with Kingdom that bad CGI can make great armies with enough proper framing and talent. Sure, they made the mistake of applying that CGI to everyone, but if they can make satisfying war scenes on a shoestring budget, why can't Madhouse?
No.862630
>>862549
There are also anons who waifu a cut-throat salaryman stuck inside a loli's body.
No.862638
>>862549
It's simple: We're saying that the relationship looks like a good one. Enri's a lucky guy, and we're glad for him.
This is a "if things were different and didn't end up in this exact way, these waifus are the ones I think I'd enjoy spending time with as people". All the Nazarick denizens, for example, are 110% devoted to Ainz, so wouldn't be waifu-able unless either that was changed, or we imagine a scenario where we end up in Ainz's place.
No.862651
>>862630
What can I say man, capitalism gets me hard. And everyone knows boys make the best girls.
No.862653
>>862549
Anon said Enri is a high-tier waifu, not his own waifu.
She is perfect waifu material in general, that's it.
No.862974
>>862481
Yeah, Shalltear left quite a mark on her. She mentions she needed medication to sleep for months after that encounter
No.862980
>>862653
>She is perfect waifu material in general, that's it.
She's a perfect wife material for Nfirea sure. You could even say she's perfect wife material in general, but she's not "perfect waifu material" if she's fucked someone canonically, anon. Being wife material and being waifu material are not the same thing.
No.862983
How long until Ainz discovers the Happy Pig Farm™?
No.863065
After this season is over I'm dropping this shit show of an anime. i'll stick with the light novel and manga.
>>862983
Considering the amount of cut content and fucking awful execution for this season especially.
Never ever.
No.863083
>>862231
Superior in every way to the shitshow that is Nazzarick
No.863168
>>863083
>Nazarick
>Shitshow
What are you on about you damn ningen.
Even the Sorcerous Kingdom is basically an utopia.
No.863233
>>862983
He knows by this point in the LN and doesn't really even care.
No.863237
>>863065
If you think it’s bad why wait until it’s over to stop watching?
No.863477
Just dropping in to say that I stopped watching this show after what happened to Farsight, I hope Ainz and his flunkies all fucking die in the worst possible manner of agony and humiliation.
Seriously, fuck this guy, he was pretty cool at the start, but then he went and became a complete fucking psychopath, I know he's supposed to be a villain protagonist, but so was light from Deathnote, and he was likeable to the very end.
Holy shit do I hate this Momonga asshole now, I hope he gets raped IRL as well.
No.863483
>>863477
t. Protagonist of justice
No.863514
>>863477
>be skeleton
>live in a cool ass tomb made with your underlings
>friends aren't here anymore and the only thing left are the underlings and the tomb they made with you
>fucking grave robbers come into your house wanting to plunder everything and kill everyone
<WOW HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW HE WAS GOING TO BE UPSET?
If I was in his place death wouldn't be enough.
No.863527
>>863477
Trespassers are free for all. He did good in defending his property, and hey man he even had mercy with most of them by granting them a swift death. I don't see how he was unneccesarily cruel. And even for the case of the people he keeps alive for a fate worse than death he's not being really cruel. He's just being pragmatic and tries to make good use of the resources that are given to him. Ainz is far from being a sadist.
No.863537
>>863477
I'm sure this is bait but: castle tomb doctrine, asshole. Any jury of peers will aquit him.
No.863538
>>863537
Literal castle doctrine; any other nation would've done the same.
No.863547
>>863477
There's nothing wrong with killing home invaders.
No.863572
>>863477
>light from Deathnote
>likeable to the very end
>likeable for any amount of time
No.863647
>>863477
They violated the NAP; he violated their souls.
No.863772
>the CGI was so bad that they had to push back ep 12
No.863773
Wasn't Ainz riding a souleater in the LN? Where the fuck are the souleaters?!
No.863789
>>863775
That one face looking back makes the QUALITY all the more hilarious. I suppose this is what we get for calling this series a comedy.
No.863798
>>863775
Nothing shows magnitude of situation better than copypasted army spending some quality time with local wild life.
No.863802
The CGI knights clapping was as bad as >>862329. Hopefully they stop raping this series.
No.863803
They apparently finished it before airing and that's why CR is late.
The episode was pretty ridiculous and I don't thing CGI was the only weird thing. Voices were so low at some points compared to the music it was undecipherable, especially when that noble guy was yelling his soldiers about spears or some shit. And someone needs to make a webm of that applause scene with wiggly CGI.
I wonder if the finale will be still as shitty, how does one fuck up so much.
No.863805
>>863802
I'm at the same time sad that there won't be any more overlord seasons and happy that the CGfest will stop.
I just started reading the LN, so I guess there's that.
>>863803
>They apparently finished it before airing and that's why CR is late.
Oh, so they're just rushing the episodes, that explains it. Now which retard saw a series get two really popular seasons and thought it was a good idea to rush the third and completely fuck it up?
No.863827
>>863477
He gave them a choice to leave with all the free gold and treasure right at the start yet they decided to keep going in.
They chose wrong.
It's their own fault for becoming too greedy. If any of them had a brain they would've understood how absurd it must be for the owner to have that much at the entrance. Should've just grabbed free shit and fucked off.
No.863840
Will there be a season 4?
No.863871
Look at this trash.
>textures are muddy shit
>obvious jagged seams right where the have a closeup
>model is clipping into itself in multiple places
Just insulting.
No.863872
You think with this show being so popular they could afford the budget for some good cgi. I don't mind cgi if it actually looks good but I don't know how anyone could look at this shit (the soldiers especially) and decide that it is good enough to air on television.
No.863873
Fucking up with horrible CGI is par for the course of 2018 anime.
Fucking up the delivery of the "Ia Shub Niggurath" is unforgivable.
It's not poor budget or rush it's simply not understanding what makes that scene cool in the first place.
It's not the monsters that, as proper lovercraftian monstrosity, are barely described except by the noise they make trampling an army, it's the fucking fact that Ainz can literally call Cthulhu if he wants to...
He basically go from an epic char in a low level D&D campaign to something way WAY more powerful. It's the fucking turning point where you realize there is no getting off the ride because Ainz can call upon the powers of beings that eat star systems for breakfast.
Hence the fucking dramatic pose in between the sacrifice and him calling forth Shub Niggurath name.
No.863882
Even if you're a secondary (if there still are any who haven't either abandoned the series or started reading), I feel like you at least ought to read the LN's version this battle.
Starts on page 179, I believe.
No.863887
>>863882
Ano I do not wish to tug on your solidarity but do you perhaps know when's the part where Pandora and Ainz have the talk and the latter accidentally had Pandora become the prince of Nazarick?
No.863898
I dont understand why bother doing your job so poorly? One poorly animated model walks over other poorly animated model. I am pretty sure this was supposed to be a climax of the show. And only a fucking half of the characters are afraid, others seems to be "whatever, I didnt want to live anyway, I will just stand still, who cares, its not like I am getting paid for doing this job."
No.863903
>>863773
>No souleaters
>No splat
Overlord truly is a comedy. S-Sasuga, Ainz-sama.
No.863904
>>863898
Serious. They could have at least made it seem less cheap by doing away with the copy-pasted soldiers for those brief shots where the nobles are barking orders and they only have to animate maybe a half dozen guys or so. Couldn't even do that.
The one bright side was it wasn't as bad as the goblins, but that's hardly a bright side at all. They must have really outsourced this to China or some shit.
No.863907
>>863904
>it wasn't as bad as the goblins
You say that, but at least the goblin sequence had all the units along with their introductions.
No.863910
>>863873
Imagine if instead of what we got we had semi-slideshow with your vidrelated as theme. Just how many different ways you can make this scene cool and they decided to do it in the worst possible way. Even in re-zero they had a lot of awesome moments and some of them was a fucking still frame with a fucking snow on it. There is so much you can do with creativity. Look at how much you can do with a fucking 3 frames of animation and 2 pictures with just a little of style and music.
>>863907
Sometimes its perfectly fine to use poor animation, who give a shit about these goblins anyway?
Last time I was so disappointed when they introduced shitty Killer Queen in Jojo.
No.863911
>>863910
This, honestly. We would've been better off with a darkness swallowing up animated soldiers or just not showing it at all/only showing the soldier's expressions before they were killed than we were with this 3D garbage.
No.863912
>>863775
It's not even the CGI but that the pacing, shot framing, music, tone and scene appearance was all wrong. This wasn't just bad CGI this was bad cinematography. Whoever did this either didn't care or didn't get what this scene was meant to feel like. Probably both.
>>863871
The biggest insult is that the CGI ground is literally one flat LOW RES texture. They couldn't even get a high res texture from this decade of video games, but instead grabbed one from the PS2 era.
>>863910
>Last time I was so disappointed when they introduced shitty Killer Queen in Jojo.
At least they fixed that in the blurays. This is un-fucking-salvageable.
No.863916
Good grief that was incompetent. At bare minimum give them a black aura and darken the skies with it, something.
No.863923
>>863907
That is true, but I couldn't get over the soldiers that just flew up in the air in front of the heavy infantry, and how no goblins mouths moved. Each squad was entirely copy-pasted and moved as little as possible. I still consider it worse than the massacre soldiers, though they are both well in 'bad' territory.
No.863924
>>863802
Well I expected CGI since the Death Knight had it, but I was kinda hoping that the battles would be handled better then this. But then again the best LN scenes are always adapted poorly into animated formats.
No.863928
Now the question is will anyone in nipland give a shit about this or will we get another garbage overlord season? We probably will.
No.863929
>>863898
>I am pretty sure this was supposed to be a climax of the show
It was, this was supposed to be the big moment where it was finally revealed to the world and the viewer just how utterly monstrous Ainz was, and while it was already rather obvious this was the big reveal of just how far he'd fallen into the abyss.
No.863930
Now this was just plain disgusting.
At first I thought the first pic was good, the soldiers were scared shitless and in denial, right after the guy going "this is a dream, right?", so it made sense for them to be looking around stoic and refusing his commands, but no, it was just the idle animation before they all instantly processed the input like gay fucking robots.
Also,
How can you possibly fucking fuck up with perspective when you're dealing with 3D?
Not to mention those disgusting moving scenes, with the old ass fucking mistake of animating movement on top of a moving surface, you can see the fucking soldiers and monster casually sliding over the ground while the animation plays.
I retract what I said earlier, I'm glad this won't get another season and I'll be pissed off if it does.
No.863933
>>863916
What, you don't like seeing eldritch abominations on a wonderfully sunny summer day?
No.863934
>>863930
>>863882
I'm finding it infinitely more satisfying just rereading the light novel
No.863936
It really is a shame Gazef was autistically loyal to his king and didn't see merit in continuing to survive while trying his best to influence Ainz's decisions from his side
No.863938
>>863936
I think he was a good decision since I really value loyalty. If it was that dungeon master mage mango instead, he might even be left alive just based on his virtues alone.
No.863941
>>863928
>Now the question is will anyone in nipland give a shit about this or will we get another garbage overlord season?
Overlord S3 is expected to have good sales in Japan and Overlord is extremely popular in China (only overseas market that actually matters).
No.863944
So let's have a quick recap of S3
>All the animation budget was poured into fucking Goblins
>They went with the LN events and not the WN events for Mr Ainz' Wild Ride; then missed out/fucked up the few redeeming darker qualities of the LN version
>They fucked up SPLAT with CG no less
I don't think I've been more disappointed at anime this year. Reminder this is the studio that animated the One Punch Man fight scenes.
No.863945
>>863944
The same studio also skimped out on One Punch Man most notably the fight between Genos and Deep Sea King
No.863946
>>863944
>studio that animated the One Punch Man fight scenes
I liked how manga version had better framerate than anime version.
No.863947
>>863944
>Reminder this is the studio that animated the One Punch Man fight scenes.
This is a extremely simplified view about how the anime industry works.
One Punch Man was largely animated by freelancers that Madhouse hired, and not by Madhouse inhouse staff.
Most of said freelancers didn't work on OPM because it paid better or because they liked the manga, they worked on OPM because the director Shingo Natsume is well connected and liked.
No.863951
>>863945
>>863946
>>863947
I wasn't too into OPM to know the apparent heavy outsourcing or background drama; but my point was that they surely had the venues, funds and capability to do anything better than repeated CG models on staggered walk/run cycles for one of the more popular/profitable titles this season.
It's often joked about, but the out of frame derp drawings and PS2 era graphics on a sunny day for an event that was extremely impactful to the universe and measured on a near-apocalyptic scale isn't just an insult to the source material but an insult to how cheaply they could get away with it compared to industry standards.
I would hesitate to make a similar point again since it might come off abrasively, but I'm sure some of Madhouse's notable titles of NGNL or Redline would prove it has at the very least the ABILITY to do better than conflicting textures on 5 repeated models with no shading and conflicting lighting-outsourced or not. My point isn't that Madhouse itself as a whole could create something on par to industry giants such as KyoAni, but it has at the very minimum no fucking excuse to this shitshow of a season. The fact they couldn't even be bothered to draw in the scenes where the soldiers were stationary is a point in itself indicative of how cheap they were. For all intents and purposes; How Not To Summon a Demon Lord might be a harem ecchi from a MUCH smaller studio, but it's final fight was animated and choreographed better with more tension than whatever the fuck SPLAT was supposed to be.
My point still stands about the choice to stick with the LN as oppose to the WN for the tomb raid.
No.863958
>>863916
If they darkened the skies then they'd have to put some actual detail into the dark young and the infantry being trampled.
No.863966
I felt nothing during this episode, but it did remind me of drakengard for a second.
No.863967
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>this entire fucking season
No.863970
>>863967
That's not a good comparison.
I don't think something like those could be made unless the creator was passionate about what he was doing. He had a motivation beyond sales figures that led him to want to make them.
This season of Overlord had no trace of passion.
No.863978
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>863951
>I wasn't too into OPM to know the apparent heavy outsourcing
Heavy outsourcing is the standard in the anime industry, there are only very few studios that have enough staff to handle the majority of the animation inhouse.
Most animators, especially talented ones are freelancers. The same is true for most directors, composers, writers, etc.
Still this isn't an excuse for the QUALITY Madhouse provided, they made a contract with the production committee, they accepted the payment, timeframe, and conditions the committee had.
Anime usually has a production schedule of around a year, so the contract was almost certainly for Overlord season 2 and 3.
Hiring decent freelancers or outsourcing work to another company is the responsibility of Madhouse, they messed up.
A good thing is that this might actually cause heads to roll at Madhouse, Kadokawa which leads the Overlord committee almost certainly didn't expect to get this type of QUALITY for their money.
3 of the (probably) 7 full TV anime contracts Madhouse accepted since 2017 are primarily funded by Kadokawa (Sora Yori, Overlord S2/3 and Boogiepop Phantom).
They can punish Madhouse, for that matter I doubt that Kadokawa paid them more for Sora Yori or Boogiepop than for Overlord, and Sora Yori looked miles better than Overlord.
Getting back to the things I said in >>863947
The Boogiepop PV is an extreme example about how important networking is in the anime industry, like I said above it's very unlikely that it has a higher budget than Overlord.
But the director is Natsume (OPM), so the talented freelancers are basically queuing up to get hired for the production.
No.863979
>>863958
Even pic related would have been better.
No.863980
I think this is the first spell I've ever seen where you sacrifice your enemy to summon beings that kill even more of your enemies.
No.863993
>>863980
I wouldn't expect to find much balance in an isekai steamroll series, but the original story featuring Dark Young (Bloch, not Lovecraft) involved an unwilling "sacrifice". I imagine the mechanics of this spell revolve around killing a certain number of low-level creatures with a save-or-die effect to invoke an RNG event that spawns a friendly dark young. Unless my memory is shit, 70K died at the start and five Dark Young appeared so that could mean equivalent of 10K 1HD creatures would need to die to guarantee a spawn. Any exposition explaining how uncommon it was to summon one was left out. Seriously, fuck the pacing in this series.
No.864015
I haven't started it yet. Should I wait for the DVD release? Maybe they'll fix it up.
>>863980
>sacrifice your enemy to summon beings that kill even more of your enemies
Depending on how you look at it, isn't that how necromancy usually works?
No.864031
>>863970
>That's not a good comparison.
>the creator was passionate about what he was doing
>This season of Overlord had no trace of passion.
S3 did not deserve this.
No.864035
>>864031
I wonder how the author feels about this.
No.864081
>>864035
He's an autistic, chubby, 40-50 year old Nip from what I remember (he took down all of the pictures of himself online around the start of S3 and I forgot to resave them), so likely he's heartbroken. That or he intentionally made the last season of the anime shit so he could focus on his LN again/possibly force filthy secondaries to read it.
No.864083
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>>863912
>PS2 Era
No way, it looks like PS1 at best.
No.864090
>>864083
It's closer to early day PS2 era than PS1.
No.864149
>>863966
>drakengard
I like you.
The part where Ains pulled a Jeb Bush had me laughing. What even was that supposed to be? I was expecting darkened skys as well, I mean, eldritch beasts show up? Don't they normally bring along fog and clouds and darkness? Did the LN have darkness?
No.864189
>>863980
It's an artillery spell.
Extremely long cast time - when triggered, unprotected enemies (i.e. level30s) in a limited area are sacrificed and it summons a number-dependent Young, on average maybe a single one since by this point in the game you should be around mostly resistant enemies.
The Young themselves aren't unstoppable death machines either, parties of high-level players can take them out, so it's not really a +999999 hands on deck as a +1 or +2 each, which given all the 'ifs' and 'maybes' might actually be underwhelming. Vampireslut is a respawnable +10 or more who Ains can solo because he has an entire guild's worth of pay2win items.
Once such pay2win item was used to accelerate the casting dramatically, the hourglass thing he crushed.
No.864294
>>863970
I honestly don't know where in other seasons you saw passion.
No.864299
>>864189
>Once such pay2win item was used to accelerate the casting dramatically, the hourglass thing he crushed.
That's something I was wondering. Why did he use it?
I'm guessing now that YGGDRASIL isn't really a thing anymore, there is no way to get more of the cash shop items.
He didn't use it immediately to look if some other former players would attack him but there was no reason to waste it afterwards,
It's not like those knights could've done him any harm and he could've use the item in a later situation where he'd actually need it.
No.864303
>>864299
Because he's autistic and didn't realize he was terrifying.
From his point of view, the situation was
>declare that to demonstrate your might you will now cast your most spectacular spell
>a bunch of useless blue lights starts spinning around you
>stand there for thirty seconds looking like an idiot while nothing happens
Meanwhile everyone on the field with a brain is shitting their pants because they know that whatever this unprecedented ritual is building up to, it will be magic of unimaginable power.
No.864305
>>864299
>Why did he use it?
>well there is not reason to wait anymore
Basically he was bored. And he is not a miser sometimes.
>>864303
Him casting a spell broke the record and he was overjoyed because of that. Imagine how would you feel if you killed 80k players in one spell. And he realized that this was supposed to be terrifying, but he felt nothing about all the slaughter and he commented on it.
And he was not standing like an idiot he was expecting attack. In the end he was relieved/disappointed and somewhat bored.
No.864308
>>864305
You misunderstood what I said.
Of course the spell was terrifying once it was cast. I'm talking about while he was waiting for the spell to cast. It's right there in the LN:
>He felt quite silly for having to stand still in the middle of the magic circle without being able to move.
No.864402
>>864391
Of all the sounds they could have used, why a sheep?
No.864404
>>864402
The LN clearly calls for "adorable bleating". Is it really surprising that that's the sound made by children of the Black Goat of the Woods with a Thousand Young?
No.864405
>>864404
I'm more surprised at the fact that it sounded "adorable" instead of "adorable from the perspective of an undead who just killed tens of thousands of people". And even then, those big fucking young'uns shouldn't be sounding like a normal sized sheeps in the first place, given how large they are. Just another failure to add on to the pile.
No.864407
>>864405
The LN describes it as "so sickeningly sweet and cute that it made people want to vomit".
It's literally just adorable goat sounds. The fact that it's coming from those maws should have been enough to make it terrifying.
No.864424
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>>864407
This. It's a Lovecraftian horror, they're supposed to sound sickeningly sweet like baby goats while they rampage and destroy everything.
No.864425
>>864424
Shub-Niggurath isn't considered good or evil in the Cthulu Mythos. That's what I also wanted to mention.* She simply is.
No.864503
>>864425
That applies to most creatures in lovecraftian horror. One of the consistent themes is that there are "creatures and concepts beyond our understanding or ability to judge."
No.864602
>>864402
>Of all the sounds they could have used, why a sheep?
They're Dark Young of Shub-Niggurath (“The Black Goat of the Woods with a Thousand Young”), basically the strongest entity in the Lovecraftian mythos as it's the main/most commonly worshiped god of the galaxy.
The fact they do that noise is to emphasis how fucking creepy and WTFesque those things are. Basically your hears register them as something cute while your eye and nose only see something truly horrible.
It's something Maruyama added to the mythos (I think, unless it's how they're described in the tabletop?) and it fit exactly what Lovecratian monsters are, it's shit that is so bizarre human minds can't exactly comprehend it beyond being completely sick/mad/terrified.
Of course it's a complete waste of a good horror setting as they completely fucked up the timing and tension building of the scene (which is NOT budget or anything time related, it's simply a pure failure to understand the source material).
No.864753
>>864081
Not overweight if this is really him.
Also i'm probably wrong but i don't remember there being pictures of his face available to the public.
No.864755
>>864753
>Skull mask and hoodie
I'm not sure how to feel about this. Is it cringe or a relief that we don't get to see how ugly he is?
No.864756
No.864758
>>864755
This is a nice thread. No Maruyama bullying is allowed here and you're supposed to direct all your bullying energy towards Badhouse.
No.864766
>>864755
What if he's secretly a gaijin?
No.864782
>>864766
With bad eyesight? Dont think so.
No.864790
>>864755
Tell me about Kugane, why does he wear the mask ?
No.864796
>>864753
No, there's another picture from way back when. I don't think that's Maruyama. Maybe she's a niece or something?
>>864766
The black hair gives away she isn't. Maybe a happa at most.
>>864756
The long hair/large forehead and overall appearance in that image suggests he might very well be a she. Notice the forward-extended slouch and baggy shirt/hoody combo trying to hide the slight bulge at the chest section. Then again those shoulders are on the masculine side of androgynous and that is definitely a man hand.
No.864924
I don't remember the exact moment during this season I stopped caring about the plot and started enjoying the abysmally bad animation. Good gods, have they no shame?
No.864936
>>864924
To be honest knights were better than the rest.
>exact moment
This shit right here >>862329
No.864983
>>864936
It's funny, I was re-watching Utawarerumono recently, it's also filled with dodgy CG work for big battles and yet, despite that, and despite it being ten or so years old, it still did much, if not all, of the CG stuff better than that scene.
No.865127
>>864756
>>864796
So-Bin (illustrator) is a girl IIRC.
No.865164
>>862295
>>863775
>>863871
>>864924
How did CG go from webm related in 2002 to this?
No.865194
I was told there would be SPLAT. All i got was "please clap".
No.865207
I knew this crap was inevitable the minute I heard how soon S3 was coming after 2; 2 aired just at the beginning of the year. I don't think you can shit out a whole season of anything in half a year without expecting to cut a lot of corners.
No.865300
>>865207
> in half a year
I doubt that's true, Overlord 2 and 3 are probably just a split cour anime branded as 2 different season.
No.865311
>>864299
It was a show of power. Killing 200,000 people with the flick of your wrist is a lot more impressive than killing them with a 10 minute chant. With the first one they lose all hope, but the second makes them think they've got enough time to run away or charge you if they have to fight again. He actually brought about more terror than he meant to. I'm not sure if the anime is there yet, but he ends up lying and saying that he can only cast the spell once every ten years to make people slightly less on guard and avoid other players being able to frame him for acts of aggression by wearing a cloak and casting the same spell.
No.865321
>overlord has good writing
>2 pages of "SPLAT! SPLAT! SPLAT! SPLAT! SPLAT! SPLAT! SPLAT! SPLAT!" is good writing
I really want people to die.
No.865323
>>865321
It sets out to be entertaining, and it does its job pretty well. That's good writing.Go be pretentious somewhere else.
No.865346
>>865321
The cartoon is good
No.865361
>>865321
You are ignoring stuff like the descriptions, inner monologue, entertainment value, and worldbuilding to focus on an instance of over exaggeration.
SPLAT SPLAT SPLAT.
No.865362
>>865207
We've not even got a pleplepleidas accompaniment to the series this time, do we?
No.865370
>>865362
They're on Nyaa, translated by the same guy as before.
No.865373
>>865370
>>865323
>>865346
>>865361
Overlord is the most pretentious garbage in our generation.
No.865377
>>865370
Oh, neat, dunno how I've been overlooking that, thank you, Anon.
No.865378
Is there going to be another episode of this disgrace? Apparently it was supposed to have 13.
I'm not really sure what I'm expecting.
>>865373
>pretentious
How so?
No.865381
>>865378
>Thinks its good
>It isn't
No.865384
>>865378
the final episode is out, just finished watching it
No.865385
So is Ainz going to have any sort of real opposition in the future or is the series going to remain an unironically version of OPM?
No.865387
>>865384
Some sub group uploaded it.
I was waiting on horriblerolls since it's usually faster, but I guess their bot fucked up since they thought it'd be 12 episodes again. The series isn't even listed in their site anymore.
No.865388
>>865385
>an unironically version of OPM
No.865389
No.865393
>>865388
Overpowered character without the humor thrown in. Like watching a child play a video game with cheats on.
No.865407
>>864015
>Maybe they'll fix it up.
in little spots sure. But the 2nd & 3rd season as a whole are a copy pasted CG mess. They're not going to invest money into redoing any of the scenes with better animation. Generally they only redraw "quality" faces. Don't expect much, if anything.
No.865461
Did the animay ever show Shalchair getting glassed by the redhead and hypnotized by the Religion Kingdom?
I'm reading these parts in the LN and I don't remember they even being mentioned in the anime, despite being important to the story.
Also, this might explain the shitposting >>865401
No.865466
>>865461
Do you mean how she got mindcontrolled and Ainz had to fight her? They showed that but I think they didn't show who did it and how they did it.
No.865468
>>865466
Yes, in the anime it shows the fight with Brain, then suddenly "oh yeah she got brainwashed lmao".
In the LN it has an entire arc of her fucking up, becoming careless and falling to a magic trap of some isekai-christ fags.
I was wondering if I had just forgotten it or if they had just not included it in. It seems stupid not to include an important two minutes scene like that.
No.865471
I’ve never seen a show go from quality to Q U A L I T Y so fast. What is the opposite of an AOTS?
No.865473
No.865474
>>865468
I think the way the anime did it was a very double edged sword - on the one hand the whole thing was a very forgettable instance, like she just gets hard-rebooted as she kills everything, on the other it did somewhat (at the moment in time) create a real sense of there being an unknown power out there.
No.865478
>>865474
Yeah, they sort of just rushed throught it, but the mystery part would've been good if they had done anything with it. It feels like they completely forgot about it after the first season.
No.865482
I've heard talks of a "best girl", when does she show up?
No.865490
>>865482
Best girl Neia shows up in volume 12!
No.865499
>>862418
Is it weird that the part that disturbs me most is not being attracted to a child, but being attracted to a trap?
No.865500
>>865473
Anon asked what was the opposite of an AOTS, not an obvious AOTS.
No.865501
The maids are adorable.
>>865499
I want to say no, but I'm also that fucked up.
No.865533
>>865490
I'll be honest, I am still pissed off at her for not using her bow's super power to kill faux Jaldaboath in volume 13.
No.865587
>>865164
If you're going to bring up Yukikaze it's not just the CG, it's also the direction, the camera-work, the lighting etc.
No.865590
>>865499
But anon, Mare is decades old. Traps are best though, embrace the darkside
No.865595
>>865590
Degeneracy is truly a slippery slope.
No.865630
>>865482
>>865483
>>865484
I couldn't even be bothered watching the whole episode. Thank fuck it's over.
Best part of this season was the opening.
No.865634
>>865468
They literally showed flashes of people who were fighting her, and later showed a scene in the "religion kingdom" where they briefly discuss her and Ainz. You could see the kingdom's flag in the battle.
>>865478
That's because literally nothing happens between Ainz and the theocracy for now. They couldn't do anything with it unless they wanted to change the story even more.
No.865659
Exciting episode. Even better than the previous one. This one had peasant with giant ass!
>>865490
Its like 5 volumes away? And the only memorable moment is when ainz decides to ruin conspiracy against him at random. But if they turn dwarfs into loli village, I guess it could be worth watching if you need more reasons to kill yourself, cgi lolis are just what you need.
No.865671
>>865630
>Best part of season was the opening
Good, but nowhere near as good as Pure~ Pure~ Pureades~
Unironically
No.865694
>>865630
>Best part of this season was the opening.
The OP was fucking great.
The only good ED was the first season's.
No.865697
The anime turned into an unlikable version of Kemono Friends.
No.865703
>>865697
It's closer to the second season to be honest.
No.865725
I think the third seasons ending was pretty good for male vocalist standards.
No.865741
Just got to the Shalchair battle.
>LN has Ainz going all calculist, thinking the best way to do everything, using himself as bait to make sure there were no other players around, scouting the area beforehand and having Mare and Aura scout the are while he fights since they are the two less likely to be attacked by players/humans
>anime is "haha, I've arrived, let's fight"
The LN is making me think the anime was shit since the first season. There's a bunch of shit that could be fixed by having a character mention it with one line but just isn't there.
I didn't even know Clem wasn't confirmed dead.
No.865743
>>865741
You are pretty much right. They have left out a lot of really good stuff since the first season.
Also, she is dead, they just could not keep her body and it was stolen from the crypt where it was being kept and she was resurrected.
No.865744
>>865741
I liked some moments. To be honest most of LN is shit too. Only last 2 (1)chapters were good, like they hired real fucking editors for it.
No.865762
>>865743
>Also, she is dead, they just could not keep her body and it was stolen from the crypt where it was being kept and she was resurrected.
I know, but it's pretty much the same as not being confirmed dead.
The switch from "baby running away" as Albedo puts it to actually doing shit is pretty fun as well.
>>865744
What do you mean, are you talking about the English translation? Because it's pretty good compared to others I've seen.
No.865766
>>865741
Surprise anon! Every adaptation of everything is shit! Either comparably or objectively.
If you've ever read a book and seen the movie adaptation of it you'd have figured this out a long time ago.
No.866116
No more Overlord please. Season 1 was good but it's just been getting terrible.
No.866117
I can't wait for S4.
>CG Empire arena
>CG Quagoa
>CG dragons
>CG Queen of Clubs
>CG Neia
No.866119
I tried encoding the Drama CD but it looked like shit so have two webums instead.
No.866120
>>866119
I'd lick Albedo's hard abs
No.866127
>>866116
Fuck off. I want it finished.
No.866159
>>866116
>not wanting to see it fall even further
I hope season 4 is completely CGI
No.866174
What was the conditions for that horn to summon an entire goblin army again?
No.866205
>>866174
You have to be the cute grill
No.866206
>>866174
Had to have levels in the Commander class or something, which she didn't have the first time. I think it was that and it needed to be during conflict, though the latter could be wrong.
No.866207
>>866174
Keep summoned creatures alive for x amount of time. Nobody knew about it since they wore always treated as disposable trash mobs. That's my theory.
No.866236
>>866174
No one knows and it's never said.
What is speculated is:
1. Good reputation with Goblin faction.
2. Levels in Commander.
3. Being outnumbered by hostiles.
No.867976
>reading volume 10
>prestonya and nigredo in jail
>something about a royal capital incident
Alright someone explain this, I read everything up to this very point and remember no such thing. It's not the first time overlord pulls this kind of thing off.
No.867995
>>867976
After the Men in the Kingdom arc, when Ainz had all those prisoners taken by Jaldabaoth, the two tried to help some of the more innocent ones escape by deliberately misinterpreting Ainz's orders. Or something along those lines. Pestonya is good aligned and friendly to humans, and while Nigredo is insane she doesn't accept the idea of killing innocent children (obviously, given her character profile), so neither of them were willing to sit by if they thought they had plausible excuses to save the innocent people.
I don't think it was ever properly described in either the novels or the drama CDs.
No.868102
>>867995
I think it happened in a side story. Same thing with solution wanting to give Ainz a bath and the death knight on a mission.
No.871675
>>863477
did you not realise that they were going to raid the tomb until they were standing in front of Ainz himself?
No.872037
>>863477
Light stopped being likeable in ep25
No.872052
>>862145
Laughably bad CG. I've seen better in a PSX game.
No.872088
>>862161
You don't even need to "animate" marching either. You can just have a few still frames of goblins in rows and move the frames around to simulate movement.
No.872229
>>867976
They tried to rescue kids from the assembly points before being shipped off to demiurge farms.
Overlord isn't a regular half-assed nip LN, it uses some actual literary technique once in a while, especially forms of unreliable narrators and frames.
Basically some shit that happens is not told to the readers, the readers have to figure the missing elements on their own.
Now of course since most of us are used to botched translation being the source of the confusion it doesn't really have the same effect.
No.872235
>>862145
>>872052
From the thumbnail the goblins look like lego characters.
No.872243
No.872460
>>864031
To be fair, I never had any expectations of this shit, given that they uttterly fucked up shalltears true form from "Literally Strigoi/Sadako/Grudge shit " to that goblin-leech thing, to the point where it even corrupted the manga's depiction of it.
No.872719
>>872460
I'm an anime-only scrub, what does she look like elsewhere?
No.872789
>>872721
Looks pretty cool. The show has a low budget, and you can't make each of the dozens of thousands frames look amazing. Anime will never look flawless unless millions are being dumped into each episode so it's not really fair to compare it to a single, static illustration.
However, yeah, she and everything else could have looked better.
No.874420
>>865741
Do you think so-bin has a drool fetish?
I know I do.
Fuck, I wish I could find that drama cd picture with Shalltear and Albedo drooling now.
No.874426
>>865741
>LN has Ainz going all calculist, thinking the best way to do everything, using himself as bait to make sure there were no other players around, scouting the area beforehand and having Mare and Aura scout the are while he fights since they are the two less likely to be attacked by players/humans
This is exactly what happened in the anime too, isn't it?
No.875839
I kinda feel like somewhere beneath this utter dogshit anime lies a decent manga or LN. Is it worth checking out or is it shit too?
No.875878
>>875839
LNs are good. The only reason the anime sucks is because of cgi and cut content. Everything else is great.