/a/ - Animu & Mango

Every dumbass quirk we seeks makes me question more and more why a quirkless person can't get a hero license. The power gap between Gondola there and Bakugo or Shoto is just fucking ludicrous.

>>847757

What makes it even more interesting, every time a gun is brought out, it's in an "oh shit" moment, and it requires some sort of quirk to deal with.

Why not just fucking have a standing military with guns? Even if you do run into some fucker who can make shields/manipulate metal, you still have a trained military force with quirks of their own.

>>847758

Guns are such a non-issue in Japan even today that it kind of doesn't occur to them. The Yakuza doesn't even use guns in their crimes because pulling one out at all will make cops flip the fuck out and bust down doors as if a cop got killed. That said, I do hate how even Kirishima had trouble against the dude who had a gun. That was dumb as shit, considering that the most basic advantage of his power, even if it did accurately represent that a bullet has a metric fuckton of power behind it.

>>847779

> even if it did accurately represent that a bullet has a metric fuckton of power behind it.

A bullet actually has very little force, especially any sort of handgun. Try getting some ballistic gel, putting it on a rolling surface, and shoot it. The gel will absorb all of the force and it will only move a few inches at most.

>This manga is now about Dad's and their kids

It literally always was it's about how different generations all interact with one another.

>>847779

It was Tetsutetsu who had the gun issue because his hardening works differently to Kirishima's. The guy suffers from iron fatigue or something, so he can't maintain his as easily and it's like a layer over his skin. So he's still feeling the blows whereas Kirishima is hardening his actual body. Kirishima would've shit on the guy with the gun, so long as he remembered to hold his breath.

>>847800

Where do these come from? They're all poorly drawn and appear to be "ironic".

>>847830

They don't appear to be poorly drawn to me.

>>847800

>>847830

>>847832

>>847833

Blanking on the artist's name. They don't arouse me, they're more entertaining than anything.

>>847830

>>847835

Please stop bullying Eltonel, thank you.

>>847833

Shhh, don't listen to them, you are good.

>>847832

>>847833

>>847835

>Barebones anatomy

>Weird style

>Weird coloring

>Uncanny valley effect

>>847830

I just know is some faggot who hangs around /v/'s gg thread. Aka you can dismiss him off the bat.

>>847686

So, where the fuck did this "Deku's Dad is in jail" bullshit come from and why do I feel like it's some tumblr 'headcanon' idiocy?

>>847906

So All-Might was copying his master with the point.

I was thinking Deku might have this flashback thing because he's related to Nana. All-Might casually mentioned how Deku's mother looks like Nana, and Nana gave her kids up for adoption to protect them. It's cliche and likely a red herring, but still, made me think.

>>848023

Never heard of this. Sounds like headcanon bullshit.

>>848028

Upon further reading, apparently only a son has been mentioned, but Hori loves Star Wars so I think this idea has legs.

>>848031

>this idea has legs.

What a shitty quirk for an idea.

>>847833

>shilling your shitty art

pathetic

>>847757

It is surprising that there hasn't been a single gadget-oriented hero or villain yet. A lot of tech in the story is impossible bullshit level at this point, so having someone in an armor or equipped with multiple gadgets would not be far fetched at all. Shit that Hatsume invented for the sports festival would be enough to make any quirk less person competitive compared to many quirk users.

>>848065

>It is surprising that there hasn't been a single gadget-oriented hero or villain yet.

It's been brought up a few times, and the story usually says, "If you have to rely on gadgets, you're a faggot." Remember there was the gas kid at the training camp with a gun. While for that beginning where they enoucntered him, he was incredibly powerful, the narrative of that fights was that he lost because all the gadgets he had made it obvious what his weaknesses were. There was even passing mention of heroes that have relied on gadgets in the past have gotten absolutely fucked when those gadgets proceed to fail them in fights.

Of course, it's also bullshit because the technology shows in the show is way the fuck more useful than half the quirks shown. Hori shot himself in the foot on that one.

>>848086

Hori wasted Nana's death in a movie side story volume so what makes you think he gives a shit about those literal whos?

>>848086

>Second from the left probably has another quirk.

>He probably fucked up and decided it's better to give it to someone quirkless who will respect the power.

I thought it was confirmed that, if given to a current quirk user, that quirk would be added to OfA

>>848074

>Of course, it's also bullshit because the technology shows in the show is way the fuck more useful than half the quirks shown. Hori shot himself in the foot on that one.

It probably makes a lot more sense at the upper levels instead of the mid levels. (not to mention that wierd engineering seems to be regulated to a degree that makes hero liscencing seem scott free and playful). Almost all of the heroes have some basic augmentations built into their suits but when people can start making meaningful pressure waves with their movements how do you compete with that.

>>848092

This. Mid-tiers have gear for support purposes, but we never see high-tiers with anything but their quirk. Hatsume's tech is potent but constantly fucks up, she's probably super ahead of the curve compared to what's on the market too. If you're aiming for the top, then how you use your quirk should be so versatile that there's little room for gear. See guys like Endeavour or Hawks: Endeavour can run up walls, throw javelins of fire and propel himself through the air. Hawks can fly and remote control his feathers for attacking and rescuing. Neither of them have much more gear than their clothes. These are the top ranked heroes in the business.

>>847859

Wut?

What weird anatomy? What weird style?

>>848086

All the OfA holders weer retards. NONE of them had the smart idea of passing the quirk to someone who already has one, thus boosting the power of OfA.

Thus it took more generations for OfA to become powerfull enough to even consider going agasint AfO - and during all of that time AfO had free reign. How shortsighted.

>>848100

Bullshit.

As we seen, Endevaour could use cooling gadgets to prevent himself from overheating (or at least extend his endurance).

And Hawks could use somethig as backup, as wihout feathers, he becomes weak. His feathers also lack power.

>>848091

I believe it was discussed before, but the usual result is the quirk being on it's own, so if you have a quirk and get OfA, you can pass OfA without passing another quirk. Don't know if the quirk could mutate like AfO given quirks.

>>848023

>>848028

You retarded? The idea is that AfO is his father.

>>848149

Quirks themselves don't make OfA stronger. OfA is basically stacked physical potential which just extends to quirks because they are physical attributes. Have you considered that since AfO passing quirks may cause a person to go dip that OfA user didn't pass along their their own quirk since they risk making the other person a dip plus since OfA is a one way and passing it could get stuck in a retard who can't give it back?

>>848173

Where's that theory come from?

>>848086

Now that I think about, One for All is pretty similar to Avatar: The Last Airbender and how a great power is passed down for each new chosen person for that generation. Was Nana Shimura just Korra who actually got what she deserved for her brash decisions or will we expect that in the sequel to Academia?

The arcs after the yakuza one have been one-offs where I don't know what the point of them will be on a story perspective. Good for character development but I haven't seen this big picture that will be part of the next big arc yet.

>>848219

If I just pull something out of my ass, the next arc is probably going to be about the super nomus that might break AfO out of prison.

>>848090

Hori did what now.

>>848423

Vol 0 which is a movie based story volume has a 9 page chapter on Nana's death and All Might's backstory. It has nothing to do with the main series. It's still canon but it's sold separately and has no place in the main manga's plotline. If you didn't know about it you'd have missed it.

>>848453

Cursed image but I'm glad someone else thinks Mina is a nigger. I have no clue why she always reminded me of black girls.

>>848454

She's sassy and loud

>>848454

She's not black, she's ganguro. We already know her personality flaw is having zero fucking taste when it comes to fashion choices.

>>848457

I'm not saying she's black canonically I said that she always struck me as black, I see a ton of similarities between her and the black chicks at my high school and middle school from before, I can't put my finger on why exactly.

>>848456

No that's not it either.

>>848176

OfA stores power and quirks merge. Even Deku pointed to AllMight that giving the quirk to Todoroki would have created a insanely powerful super-hero, and AM agreed.

>OfA is a one way and passing it could get stuck in a retard who can't give it back?

How is that different in away way to giving it to a quirkless guy? He could also be a retard who can't give it back.

spoilers are out.

Deku got a new bullshit power from the OfA ghosts on his crippled hand.

>>848466

I'll take it, I don't need a long training montage so a shonen protagonist can punch harder. If he just woke up one day and realized "I'm less stupid now!" I'd be perfectly fine with that.

>>848466

It's true. Deku wakes up with the bed sheets obliterated because he awakened a new powerup from his random dream.

>>848483

>wakes up with the bed sheets obliterated because he awakened a new powerup from his random dream.

Motherfucker-- was One For All a goddamn puberty allegory this whole fucking time?!?!

>>848460

How is it the same? One won't (that's why you choose) and even if he doesn't he'll still be able to use it and the other cant fucking at all, he'll be a literally brain dead. It has nothing to do with quirk and quirkless.

>>848488

What does that make AFO?

>>848555

AFO is No Fap.

>>848552

You're not making any sense.

WHY THE FUCK IS A QUIRKLESS GUY ANY LESS LIKELY TO GIVE THE POWER BACK THAN A GUY WITH A QUIRK?

Braindead? That's Nomus. Remember that the 1st OfA holder already had a quirk and he didn't go all braindead.

The thing I like about Lemillion is that he makes All Might less of a careless idiot and more of an overly emotional guy. There was a plan before Deku got involved and it made sense, strong + can't be hit and he's a nice enough guy, works out. All Might was struck by Deku's heroism and makes a rather rash decision, whether or not it was the right move is up to you in the end.

Also the dream stuff is dumb. I explicitly told a friend that OfA didn't work that way a few weeks back but here we are.

>>848620

Looks more like he had a nocturnal emission and OfA caused an explosion.

>>848621

So all those jokes about Superman killing Lois by jizzing a hole through her while having sex are now applicable to Deku?

>>848620

I really fucking hope his arm isn't healed just like that because that would kind of upset me.

Having his arm and hand fucked up was just testimony of his fuckups but also of his indomitable will wanting to be a hero.

It would really piss me off.

So the new chapter is out. Frankly less garbage than I expected. It was mostly exposition so I guess it was decent enough.

>>848690

It's not garbage because we don't know exactly what it means at this point. It'll probably be something retarded, though.

>>848621

All Might should have told him to avoid porn before going to sleep.

>>848620

>OfA keeps developing new, random powers out of nowhere

>It's a race against time to stop it before Deku Spiral Nemesises himself by total accident

>>848086

What is the main character from madworld doing there?

>>848632

He just has to practice his kegels until he can jizz without unintentionally activating OfA.

>>848775

The author himself isn't an intellectual and that translates to his characters. Everyone seems to be following ideals born form half-baked thoughts.

>>848779

You say that while >>848775 exists?

>>848780

And? Mind actually explaining yourself?

>>848782

No. >>848775 has to make a basis for his assertion, there is nothing but the initial claim to argue with. As it stands it's just an opinion with no apparent logic to back it up.

>>848621

He looks pretty ok for someone who just came so hard his penis turned into dust.

>>848620

Maybe OfA awakenned his firebreath and his telekinesis?

Why was he so mad that AFO was giving the jaw quirk to the quirkless guy?

Was Deku sleeping in his sports uniform?

>>848881

The previous chapter showed he was so tried that he just fell into bed and went to sleep

>>848850

That would be, without a doubt, the worst thing that could come of this.

>>848240

>all the heavy hitters on the villain side are literally drones

There's a reason why age of Ultron was the worst avengers movie

>>848884

Fucking barbarian, at least take a quick shower first.

>>848928

>getting Deku blood

This in particular pisses me off. I thought they were going to do something cool or incredibly retarded with it(the idea was slip the blood in Stain's prison food and then go out and seek Deku before the paralysis wears off) but all it was was more Togafaggotry

>>848890

WEll, then one of the previous users of OfA was a fire user?

I thought you could only pass the physical enharcement quirk.

>>848956

I honestly think it's going to be some bullshit about having extra powers of whoever is the most popular hero to the populace at any given time or something. I don't think it's a coincidence it happens right after Endeavor gets his big moment. Regardless, it's way too fucking late in the story to be adding new powers to Deku, especially when we're at the point that it's not believable Deku should really be losing a fight against anyone at this point except Anti-All Might Nomus or AfO. If this happened maybe way back after the school tournament arc or something I wouldn't be crying foul, but it's so fucking late in Deku's development to be pulling out extra fucking powers, my instinct is that Hori is fucking bored writing about him getting better with OfA and wants to go back to Deku learning to do creative shit with a power he doesn't understand.

>>847686

all for one could be his dad but I think it's more of the villain being what the hero could of been in a different situation.

>>848956

There is also a theory of Deku having his fathers fire power, that's why his veins light up when using OfA.

>>848590

Agree.d None of the other OfA holders had a similar experience.

Guess Deku is super-extra-special. Again. The more the story goes on he less I like Deku.

>>848968

But Almight veins also glow when using OfA.

Maybe he release so much power it is as hot as superhot steam?

The thing I don't like about myhero is that is would've made a much more compelling story if he stayed quirkless (although it would be a much harder story to write because how can someone who is quirkless can stand against someone like bakugo)

OR maybe he stayed quirkless but he discovers that all quirkless people can develop a "quirk immunity" by excercising and exposing oneself to quirks, which would replace the whole "mastering OfA" arc.

Like sure he is quirkless in the beginning and recieves OfA, but how does that make him any different from the fact he was born with a quirk? (Besides the fact he needs to play catchup excercise wise)

Also if quirks have only been around for like 3-5 generations, how is Deku the 9th user of OfA? A generation only lasts like 20-30 years, the first several successors must have gotten killed in a few years or something.

>>849051

*how does that make him any different from the others who were born with a quirk

>>849051

>Also if quirks have only been around for like 3-5 generations, how is Deku the 9th user of OfA?

Honestly Hori clearly didn't have shit thought out when he started the series. Remember that when he first appeared, Todoroki walked around with his ice-half encased in ice, which spits in the face of what's supposed to be his weakness,

>>849051

>>849053

>>849055

There is of course this theoretical story of a quirk less hero that outperforms others by merit, perseverance, and ingenuity, but that's not what we get. Instead we got a 'greatness thrust upon them' story. Nothing inherent wrong with this, most everyone here has been enjoying the ride, we're all just thinking of what could have been.

As for the 9th OfA problem I just have to assume a lot of the users died young. Some of them could have been around for only a year or two before passing on. Some could have not held up to the pressure and gave up OfA early. In reality it is likely an error like the early character designs that got edited. Didn't plan everything out from the start, or wanted to go in a different direction, it's an inherent problem of working on a weekly series where you never get time to stop and think.

>>849088

Hell, 9 generations aside, remember that at certain point in times they talk about old events like it's fucking ancient history. Such as AfO leading people and being a huge big bad mother fucker, except literally no one nowadays knows who he is. And All Might at one point suggests humanity would be a space faring race by now if quirks hadn't shown up. I think it all comes down to the fact that Hor is fucking terrible at math.

>>849096

This is also weird. It's like living 20 years after WW2 and just forgetting any of that ever happened. "What do you mean we were at war for almost a decade, some american's blew up our cities, and the russians were going to invade us? I never heard of that."

>>849099

I think shit like this is why I get so fucking mad when Hori fucks up his story telling. I'm already giving him a fuck ton of leeway with shit like this. All I ask is that what's happening on screen in conceptually good, and he's not even delivering on that right now.

>>849106

The problem is he keeps introducing more things. As far as everyone was concerned AfO was just some evil gangster guy the ruled the criminal underworld, but now he is literally an international terrorist. This was not set up or built to, it's just sort of here and we have to live with it.

>>849055

In the anime at least, it was his fire side that was incased, probably because he still hated it then

>>849096

>>849099

>>849106

Well It could be thought of as similar to 70's america. Like how all the leftist terrorism was swept under the rug by generally most media. That being a reason today alot of people aren't aware of it. Not saying everyone doesn't know just generally a forgotten time and figure due to political necessity.

>>849051

>>849055

>>849096

>>849099

>>849106

To be fair a lot of stuff can happen in a few years, Vietnam was only 63 years ago but it's treated like ancient history.

>>849114

It was the start of the series and AFO was clearly established as being more powerful than a crime lord. He's definitely more powerful than an international terrorist. I think Hori is setting us up for Palpatine levels of villainy here I mean the guys face is even burned and Shiggy is pretty much Vader if Anakin kept being a bitch when the prequel trilogy ended. AFO probably controls multiple corrupt corporations, the government, the Jews, and the criminal under world of course, only that he probably does it by indirect means, instead of being open about it.

Of course this isn't a good thing since this villain trope is extremely played out but what do you expect from Shonen Jump.

>>849154

*parts of the government.

He did after all play people's insecurities for his benefit. He probably has agents in all parts of the system.

OfA's flashback just exposed once again why quirked people is evil.

>>849051

I would've liked it kinda being a reverse One Punch Man with Mumen Rider as the protag, that originally where I thought things were going when I read the first chapter a while back, I mean the concept is so much more obvious and cool than what we got.

Deku is basically a Gary-Stu-lite, even though he may not win a fight without shattering his body or get first place, he always gets a more "favorable" outcome (making the villains retreat, getting 4th or 5th place, passing the exam through magic rescue points, etc.) Of course a lot of that is just fakeouts for suspense, but holy fuck are the consequences low and the luck high.

>>849175

Deku won't be flawless. I don't believe that's where this is going. He will get asspull leaps in power and have everything handed to him on a silver platter, but he will likely still suffer. Using his power will come with a cost and there's no way everyone in class 1-A will make it to the end of the series alive (my guess is that Aoyama will be the one to croak first), but Deku will be the strongest fucking hero, the greatest wielder of OfA, and the one who defeats AfO, because the story Hori is telling demands it.

>>847686

>Are you giving your father the respect he deserves

If we were we wouldn’t be on this board

>>849234

>shit storytelling

>but it's okay because the author said it'd be shit in the first chapter

>>849234

Isn't exactly the point that every new user of OfA will be better than the previous one?

>top class top school

>loud noise can completely fuck her up

>cold is her weakness yet she has nothing warm just in case

>1500iq plan

>I have a brilliant idea, lets rely on our opponent stupidity and hope that they wont do anything bad, because we dont have any way to see what they are doing

>its not like they are known to be reckless and smart!

Well, I guess plan to defeat 4 students from top school top class by using air conditioner to make it cold was not as foolproof as supermega genius though.

>>849284

That's what happens if you go for inferior kōcha.

>cor bloimey, mefinks the cold should do'er in, innit guv'na [listens intently for bongs to count]

>>849158

>I'll take on pain, prejudice, fear, and the feelings of loneliness over serving a man and not an ideal.

He who lives for ideals can only save ideals.

>>849171

Don't really care for such a story and such a hero.

>>849284

IQ is essentially processing power based on information given. You could have a 500IQ farmer in 5th Century Briton and it wouldn't be mean shit, because the only thing they know is how to farm. Tea Bitch only had the information from the Tournament, and Tits was kind of a shitter there. It makes sense that her plan would be fucked up, since she was relying on reactionary and defensive tactics rather than aggressive and offensive ones, like any proper strategist does when they hold the element of surprise.

She has a Quirk that's basically Nighteye's except without concrete visions of what will happen, and otherwise shittier in terms of prediction. The only benefit she has is she doesn't need to touch someone first. It'd still be useful if you actually picked up a single book of military strategy, though.

>>849327

>Don't really care for such a story and such a hero.

Then why the fuck didn't you drop it Issue #1 like any sane person would in the position of "I don't like this premise" you chucklefuck?

For once I want an episode or chapter in any manga or anime which that "power of friendship" shit doesn't work.

>>849516

Okay your wish is granted but in a Monkey's Paw way. Now for a whole arc we see Shiggy's perspective, and see him develop actual meaningful relationships with the faggo's he's stuck with. He get's into a fight with Deku and has a "I GOTTA WIN THIS, FOR MY FRIENDS, FOR ALL OF CRIMINAL KIIIIIND!"

And then Deku beats the shit out of him.

>>849516

Have you even read this manga?

>>849652

Power of friendship has been replaced with "the power of punching really, REALLY hard"

>>849252

Exactly right. All the previous wielders weren't remarkable enough to be remembered by history, even by a Hero-obsessed nerd like Deku. All Might took their power and honed it into something that made him literally the greatest Hero to ever walk the Earth... Until Deku came along, and now he's on the path to surpassing All Might and carrying on the legacy of previous generations.

>>849755

>same conviction/personality as Deku

Scrap that part in thise last two examples. Sorry

>>849755

>when there's a fucking fuckton of people with the same conviction/personality as Deku

There hasn't been anyone EXCEPT Mirio. Not a single fucking person has the same level of passion when it comes to saving people. None of the other characters are bad people, but almost all of their reasons are based in selfishness. Todoroki will make a great hero, but only as a fuck you to his dad. Uraraka just wants to pay her parents' bills. He gives the power to Deku because he's through and through the most morally perfect and uncorruptable person he can find. There's also the worry about who Deku will end up passing the power to. Deku is the only person with a personality that will make sure OfA goes to someone who wants to make the world a better place.

>>849755

Talking about science in this, it's pretty pointless and nothing about quirks makes sense. I really hate how this manga tries explaining stuff with things like "His sweat is like nitroglycerin" or "She uses lipids to create materials". None of it makes sense when almost literally everyone breaks fundamental laws of physics and creates mass like its no one's business.

Take the guy in the last few episodes of anime for example, he changes the size of objects and then talks about the melting point of tungsten like it matters, unless he's creating mass changing the volume and keeping mass would fuck with density and a giant nut with the mass of a normal nut wouldn't be that damaging. This is ignoring all the people who create fucking tsunamis out of their hands with water quirks including todoroki, "Turning humidity in air to water or ice" can't cover this dumb shit. I wish they'd just pretend it's fucking magic.

>>849779

I agree with this. Whenever they try to explain phenomena in anime, they always give you some entry-level physics example because more complicated cases completely wreck the entire system. You'll always end up with something unexplainable.

I remember when people tried to explain how Superman's flying ability worked. They came up with this concept of tactile telekinesis which in the end, sounds convoluted and doesn't explain anything.

>>849784

It was easier when they just said "leap tall buildings in a single bound" like they do with All Might. But people are fags.

>>849242

So does she watch rick and morty?

>>849789

Apparently it was like that originally but artists and writers changing all the time ended up with one of them seeing a panel where he was mid-jump and thinking. "Nah, he's flying." And that's how the origin of his flight skill.

>>849790

How else would she have mastered her quirk?

>>849779

It would be less annoying if Hori didn't work so hard to science up every quirk by creating logical weaknesses to go with them.. and then made it worse by having them be entirely genetic in nature, but also tossing in a big ol' fuck you in the form of AfO and Time Travel Backpack Loli who can apparently remove a genetic component from a person by touch, undo a lifetime of physiological development, and use it for himself, along with thousands of other genetic/physical qualities, and even give them to other people... and in the case of backpack loli, undo something inside a person's body so their in-born physical abilities cease to exist.

It's magic. Just let it be magic. For fuck's sake, why is that so hard?

>>849811

>It's magic. Just let it be magic. For fuck's sake, why is that so hard?

I can speak on this, actually. I spent a while designing a "magic" system for a story, similar to how MHA's works, and for a while got obsessed with explaining as much of it as I can. Eventually I settled on just saying "fuck it" and "letting it be magic" as you put it. Because none of this makes sense beyond the most surface level understanding of physics. So I'd say there's just an innate desire of an author to "get it right" when it comes to inventing the rules of your system, and forgetting the importance of just letting things be.

Where that's rooted in? Probably in avoiding the opposite end of it. I'm sure you've seen at least one shonen, where the rules are either poorly defined, or broken, and it kills the tension, payoff, strategy, etc.

Let me use an example. The MC of the story I described, his power is just "go really fucking fast." But it's not like Sonic, The Flash, or any form of super speed in Hero Academia, if there is one. Instead it's just "go really fucking fast." What's the difference?

Well when he tries to run with it, he just slips and falls. Later on, when he realizes he basically has to "become a bullet" to utilize it, or use it only in small bursts mid movement, he realizes that

>just because I'm moving faster, doesn't mean I'm seeing/thinking faster

and everything just becomes a blur to him if he launches his entire self.

There's layers to how it works, and twists later involving different application of "fast" to himself, but you get the idea.

The weaknesses are there, and they're pretty crippling given how other people's powers don't put them into states where they're basically useless until they come to a stop. But I'm not going to have him, say

>die upon impact with any hard surface

>get holes ripped in him, from colliding with bugs, in midair

>burn up from air resistance

>have his path through the air be affected by air resistance

etc, since that kind of stuff undermines the point of the "magic."

And in turn, what I'm getting at is that Hori seems to not understand this, and tries to explain every quirk, without realizing the more you explain, the more people question. There is a "sweetspot" for powers, and it's where stuff like Devil Fruits, Stands, and Nen, are. Just enough explained that you can think with it, but not enough that it stops being fun or starts raising questions with the average viewer.

If you don't believe me, think of Gear Third. The destruction from a balloon can be handwaved with Luffy using Haki on it every time, now, but did it ever occur to you that bones aren't connected?

>>849811

>It's magic. Just let it be magic. For fuck's sake, why is that so hard?

Please don't forget that the manga is still based on burger capecomics and that "this genetic mutation makes me shoot lasers from my eyes" is perfectly valid origin story in those.

>>849284

ALSO:

>we're in a school test. It's safe, no one can really die

>I must forget the exam and save my friends, this is mortal danger!

>>849755

The biggest problem with Miro is how he can defeat a dozen poeple he never met with powers he doesn't know by predicting their movements. He's pretty much figting blind - literally, since when phasing he can't see shit.

>>849773

>>There hasn't been anyone EXCEPT Mirio

>Deku is the Chosen one, the only good person the planet.

>He is the only choice for OfA

No.

>>849490

>Then why the fuck didn't you drop it Issue #1 like any sane person would in the position of "I don't like this premise" you chucklefuck?

Becasue I like the other characters.

>>849839

This guy doesn't know about the punch dimension.

>>850026

I also like general idea of whole thing. Nobody cares about safety at all. "new student you must invent a killer-move! And use it against other students to win license to kill!". All while nagging about how rules and laws are the most important thing and how criminals are not bad people, criminals are someone who break the law for any reason whatsoever. Unless this is a plot point, its fucking bullshit.

>>849490

This is not how it works. If something is unknown you can calculate ranges of its parameters and their relations. Her plan is pure stupidity.

She knows that there are unexpected stuff creator can pull out of her ass. What she does? She fucking HOPES that she follows the script while fully aware its not certain. What do you do in this situation where you have overwhelming numbers and success is based on stamina on one enemy? What do you do if your plan relies entirely on actions of one enemy? Do you

a: leave enemy for a few minutes of uninterrupted thinking, so it can come up with a plan you will know nothing about. While sipping tea and thinking about how smart you are?

b: harass the enemy so she cant think and forced to exhaust her power?

Even if you are so fucking confident you may think "what will I do if something goes wrong?" She even knows that something might go wrong! She expects it! What she does about it? Nothing. Its not missing information, its ignoring it.

Compare that to Deku who is supposedly your average "I forgot I have legs!" guy. He keep notes on everybody he sees. His plans include fucking personal relationships, like "he wont accept help from me so you must do it". His plans are supposed to be average and her super smart? Its Saturday morning cartoon bullshit! Protagonists can ruin their enemy plans only because they are protagonists. And smart antagonists use smartness magic instead of being actually smart.

They are not even trying for the most part. Just introduce 30 new characters every few chapters, do a popularity contest and keep everyone popular. And no need to worry about quality of these episodes, quality is reserved for a few episodes/chapters only.

PS. Regarding super "smart" girl. You know that she would do in situation where her opponents all but defeated her if she wanted to harm her enemy as final defiance? She would use her companions balls to defeat them herself, thus denying victory to her opponents and gaining victory for herself. In fact this should be modus operandi for all of the teams in game, which should be discussed beforehand and agreed upon. Although I like her "Instead of being affected by aoe attack which defeated all of my companions I`d rather stay conscious because fuck that noise.

And lets talk about strategy "shower enemy in balls, I am sure I can pass exam like this!". Its not like they have 6 balls total and require 100% accuracy rate. Irrelevant characters actions are totally fucking irrelevant. Who the fuck cares if they act retarded? They are invited only to round up the numbers.

But to be honest I am not sure about what strategy is the best in that game. On one hand strength in numbers on the other more people= more people needs to be defeated by them. And I am not sure about targets. Do you want to fight big group for better winning or smaller group for better chances? But I guess you just go with the flow.

I am sure hovever that acting alone if you have skills which you cant use in big groups are really good strategy, perhaps I would add a support player to that and not go alone, but whatever, if you are pretty much two headed dragon you dont really care. And in case of targeting no one in right mind would fight one strong player while using 10+ players. One player gives 3 points and you need to get double of your numbers. Even if he is somewhat lucky he can just win and walk away, while you lose 2 players and time. And if your team are based on specialists, than 2 people might be more important than all the rest of your team.

In any case they train everyone to use their quirk and somewhat not be a total wimp, but it seems like "I forgot I have legs" is not that uncommon of a problem. They have ears and they can talk, why their costumes dont have communication devices? Because it would ruin simple cliched plot lines. Same with guns, if I lived in a world where random asshole can just burn me to a crisp, I would fuckign need a gun on me all the time. Even if you have magical powers, I have a gun which can instantly kill you, everyone is equal in the end. You attack a crowd? To bad this guy had a gun and he killed you without even needing help from magic. So unless your quirk makes you immune to bullets or its some chemical weapons quirk than a regular police force would be able to deal with you just as good as magical heroes. In the end heroes would be selected by their ability to counter chemical weapons and they would just make a better bullets for cops.

Although, if everyone is acting like they are right now, because they were taught to act this way its not that bad of a plot point. You dont really need to convince people not to rebel against you, you might convince them to rebel in most stupid possible way. Can a lone asshole, who loves showing off more than anything really harm society? Unlikely. Can you remove all undesirable elements from society? No. In a world with magic, the best you can do is to direct wizards to have a smallest effect on you as possible. And most plebs love to see some destruction and triumph over evil! hell, there are even popularity ranking for heroes and 30-40 year old man really care about how high they are on popularity ranking. If you think about it, its their military industrial complex with constant wars around the world. Do you notice that most competitions have same fucking rules as gladiatorial fights? "Here this city we build for you to destroy, have fun fighting each other, and remember the only rule- defeat your enemy!" How much do you think it cost to build towns constantly so they can be destroyed in a gladiatorial fights? And do you think they have any fucking safety measures? I am not sure if they even have a concept of lawyers in their universe.

But things like they are because no one cares. Anything beyond main character plots dont exist.

>>849779

>None of it makes sense when almost literally everyone breaks fundamental laws of physics and creates mass like its no one's business.

Neither does the X-gene in the X-men even after years of trying to explain how they result in super-powers. Both Quirks and the X-Gene are a thing that you just have to run along with, like every contrived made-up magic mechanic in your average Isekai or most attempts at "super science" in fiction

Honestly, Boku no Hero at times feels like X-men if X-Men ditched the allegories to oppressed groups all together, which is an improvement all things considered

>>850128

>pics related

Awesome power, almost as powerful as real weapons.

>muh guns

>Just stop.

>gun which can instantly kill you

>unless your quirk makes you immune to bullets

>just make a better bullets for cops

And your answer to that is that some heroes are bulletproof and some of them are destructive and therefore guns will be useless? Especially considering that they have magic to make better bullets for every possible situation, judge Dredd style. And I guess government loves having super dangerous people without a way to deal with them with regular troops. We just rely on superman! Where is he anyway... oh right he deflated.

Its funny because they used a gun on whatshisname, who was hard as steel. A regular gun gives him a lot of problems and he was probably best suited to survive it and yet he was pretty much fucked. Also funny that chemical weapon and a gun were on the same guy.

>Not much, considering people like Cementoss exist.

Even if people like him exist its not making materials cheeper. And if it does than how the fuck people without quirks make a living if one guy is more productive than a thousands? Even people with somewhat useless quirks would be protesting non stop about job crisis. This would be a real problem and not some crazy assholes with problems with semantics of the naming of professions. And they even have a fucking air conditioning in their ghost cities!

>>850150

Isn't the point of the flashback that quirks made most guns useless against quirks?

>>850159

For fuck sake. If quirks make old gun useless, you make new guns.

>>850027

>Deku is the Chosen one, the only good person the planet.

I didn't say that fuckface. He's one of only two people shown in the story so far that fits the incredibly high moral standard of a OfA user.

>>850250

>He's one of only two people shown in the story so far that fits the incredibly high moral standard of a OfA user.

PPPPPFFt.

>Deku jumped in without thikning, that proves how incredibly moral and right he is.

Thank you for proving my point that OfA users are retards.

>>850297

>jumping in to save people as the situation arises has been proven to be the current course of action multiple time

I might be remembering this wrong but didn't Mirio get shot because of that.

>>850297

And if it weren't for All Might, Deku would have died.

Acting without thinking is NOT what I would call a great hero quality.

Deku fits an incredible moral standard? What standard is that? Worship of AllMight?

AllMight knew Deku for 5 minutes before deciding to give him a super-quirk. That is stupid beyond belief. You think you can truly know someone after 5 minutes?

>>850299

He got shot because he didnt jump in the first time in the alley.

>>850087

>Unless this is a plot point, its fucking bullshit.

I mean, it kind of is. Vigilantes is centered around the concept of how good people enacting justice, is somehow "wrong" all because they didn't pass some arbitrary license thing. Hell, even the MC's unofficial hero name, as a vigilante, was "Nice Guy" for a while, because people just kept calling him that.

>>850299

>>850337

>He got shot because he didnt jump in the first time in the alley.

Yes and no, you're both right and wrong a bit.

We discussed this last thread, or is it this one? I forget. The point is that Mirio's inaction when saving Eri, was damn near "objectively" the wrong course of action. As despite any legal red tape he'd have to deal with, from essentially abducting a child, from her legal guardian, he'd have uncovered:

>A Yakuza syndicate

>a human trafficking ring (albeit with just her)

>A conspiracy to eliminate quirks, through harvesting body parts from said girl being trafficked

>multiple accounts of child abuse

And he would have prevented

>Sir Nighteye's death

>Losing his quirk

>prolonging Eri's suffering

>potentially any damage the heroes suffered, (given they'd still have to raid it, most likely)

and a whole slew of other stuff

What seals this is that Deku actually tried to just bail with Eri, before Mirio stopped him, because that's the "right" thing to do. So when both he and Deku learn the effects of just what exactly Mirio did, while it's wrong for Deku to blame himself, Mirio was actually right to feel the immense guilt and shame.

>>850238

But if everyone has quirks that makes guns mostly useless there is no profit selling them. Besides, we are reaching singularity levels in quirkness. Soon the new generation will be all Dr. Manhattan levels of powerful as quirks keep merging over and over and more mutations appear.

In this world heroes are overglorified private cops that appeared in a confused and chaotic world. This is the equivalent of an open carry state where only a minority can't afford guns but with superpowers.

>>850554

>But if everyone has quirks that makes guns mostly useless there is no profit selling them.

These ad hoc bullshit explanations are getting ridiculous. Most people have stupid, useless quirks like making a tiny bit of fire or jumping high.

>>850803

But most people that become criminals have quirks way beyond that. They mostly become criminals because of their quirk.

>jumping high

>Not good

Thats a great rescue quirk right there.

>>850803

The fucking point of quirks are that most of them are fucking useless if you don't train them. What kinda quirk is passing through matter but an useless quirk but turned into a weapon after some training? also the whole fucking point of the children arc when they talked about quirk singularity.

While regular guns are sold they can't make a gun that adapts to every singular quirk that makes the gun useless. Is just not profitable. That's the point why heroes are a thing because they need quirks to fight against quirks.

>>850838

>While regular guns are sold they can't make a gun that adapts to every singular quirk that makes the gun useless. Is just not profitable.

The gun doesn't need to adapt to every quirk. It's a gun, you just fucking kneecap them.

For some reason this series seems to attract the worst spergs on this site, every thread turns into a spastic shit show. "Hurr durr why don't they just shot each other" because its a super hero series dipshit. The whole point is to show people using their superpowers in cool fight scenes. I'm sure if Deku went around just shooting people the series would be much more interesting and surely just as popular as it is now!

>>850863

>I'm sure if Deku went around just shooting people the series would be much more interesting and surely just as popular as it is now!

Of course, to the 4kids refugee, the only measure of how good something is is how many normalfags like it.

>>850863

>All-Might's power is having a gun

>OFA is just the name of the rifle he uses

>Deku spends ten months innawoods doing survival and combat training

>Comes back, joins UA after proving his heroism by attacking the giant mech with slings and empty magazines

>Rest of the series is Deku going full /k/ and sperging out over tactical gear

>>850838

Now hat you mention it, supposedly it's very hard to get a hero license - so one wonder how people with shit quirks ever get anywhere.

Uraraka being a prime example - her quirk is good for rescue, that's it.

>>850899

>uraraka gets her loisnece

>how could somebody with her quirk get a loisence

The test is 2 part for reason, rescue heroes generally get carried the first part and then they do the lifting in the rescue part. The stupids are expected to work together.

>>850922

>stupids

Wew. Students*

>>850927

>The main protagonist has sex ignorant of the fact that a loved one was killed while he was doing it

This didn't work when Lars Von Trier did it in Antichrist's opening and it won't work now.

>>850941

>*The trope that the main protagonist-- etc

>>850941

What about the main protagonist having sex knowing full well that a loved one is getting killed?

>>850946

Meh. It could work.

>Deku is unable to save AM so he just fucks a girl to make himself feel better while AM dies.

>>850947

What if Deku takes Uraraka Griffith style like when Guts left the Band of the Hawk?

>>850949

I would love a beach episode.

>>850949

Let me fix that for you...

What if Shiggy takes Uraraka Griffith style in front of Decuck

Wait how are you meant to train your quirk if it is illegal to use your quirk almost anywhere?

>>850969

In simulations until it becomes legal

>>850851

What if they have a bulletproof knee quirk? or a water knee quirk. Or a no knee quirk. Or a future seeing quirk. Or a Teleportation "nothing personal" quirk. What if they have any of the many abundant quirks that made guns fucking useless as it was stablished so many time.

>>850899

She can drop meteors on you if she has time to prepare, or ne a support heroine to make an easy target to other heroes.

>>850971

But what are these simulations? Bakugo was blowing shit up all the time as a kid, wing boy was flying, momma deku was picking up toys, what's the limit? What if you have a quirk that is just always on? What if the quirk seems dumb but through practice it can prove to be very useful?

>>850973

I believe you can train your quirk as long as you don't bother others. It's only illegal if you try to save anyone without licence. That's how Mr Gentle got into trouble.

Also, I believe quirk training is in every school curriculum.

>>850969

Its legal in private.

>>850851

>>850972

Thinking on this, why aren't guns more prominent? Mustard gas kid and the Deadeye teacher use one, so they are clearly in-canon.

Taking the class of 1A for example (kids who are deemed to have some of the most potential in the hero world, so obvious highest-end quirks) the only few that can really do anything vs a gun reliably is Kirishima, Invisigirl and Deku (Assuming Deku will be able to one day do the jokey muscle reflection like All Might)-with Momo/Mineta(/Sero?) needing prep time to form shields with their quirks and Todoroki/Mina needing reaction times faster than a literal bullet. With decent odds like that in the worst of situations, normal guns should be a staple in any villains kit.

It might be giga-autist tier to say it for a superhero series, but guns do kind of need an in-universe explanation on why they aren't so abundant, especially if it's going for a 'quirks are normalised to daily life' spin and not 'superpowers put you in a tier of your own', like most universes of a similar ilk.

>>850987

Because it is still japan.

>>850976

> It's only illegal if you try to save anyone without licence.

No, it's illegal to use the quirk in public. Hero License is actually a license that proves you're competent and won't kill people doing it. Uraraka's entire reason for getting a hero license is so she can use her quirk to help out her dad's construction company. How the ever loving fuck do people misunderstand so much about this show, it's really fucking simple

>>851004

In the anime, at least the dub, they changed it to her wanting to earn money as a hero so her parents can retire. An odd but generally understandable change that confuses the in universe laws. I am honestly amazed how often people on here get motivations, reasons, and obvious facts wrong.

Saying that you can only not use your quirk when saving people is stupid, that is the time you'd hope even an average person would help out if needed.

>>851063

It's pulling shit out of his ass. And that in of itself is not terrible, but shit is being pulled out at the same time the writing quality is declining enough that it's not acceptable.

>>851095

A proper way to deal with it would have been to spend an amount of time with him freaking about being unsure how long he can manage it or have difficulty. Instead it's, "Oh he can fly now"

>>851082

Class A-1 passing completely - now hat is shit.

The redicolous training standards, tests and failure rates - that's stupid.

The decision to reduce the number of heroes when crimes is going up - that is bonkers.

I wish to say Horikoshi wrote a good world, but it falls par when even a modicum of common sense is applied.

>>850972

>She can drop meteors on you if she has time to prepare, or ne a support heroine to make an easy target to other heroes.

Which doesn't really work as explanations goes. Her quirk is ZERO GRAVITY. Throwing rock into the air means they will CONTINUE to go up and away, they won't float, and you sure as hell can't target them to fall precisely where you want. Not to mention that hose rocks need to be placed there to begin with. And with Bakugos quirk, they should have been all over the place, getting flung in every direction, not neatly clustered above.

In short, Urarakas strategy is an ass-pull.

>>851108

>Class A-1 passing completely - now hat is shit.

Most definitely

>The redicolous training standards, tests and failure rates - that's stupid.

They pretty clearly explain the point of the rough new tests: People wouldn't do such a shit job passing them if they knew how to work together, but no one has been training for that.

>>851108

>The decision to reduce the number of heroes when crimes is going up - that is bonkers

It's better having than having a lot of shit heroes that only makes things worse.

>>851115

>having more capable people that can save people and stop criminals is bad.

>let's completely depends on just a few

>let's learn nothing from the Symbol of Peace

Absolutely stupid. Is the normal response o increase crime to reduce the number of police officers? After all, by your logic, if you fail more officers in he academy, it will result in better officers, so crime will fall even tough you have less people who will be overworked now.

Absolute bullshit.

>>851129

Yet a single officer shooting a unarmed suspect is enough to negatively impact all officers in a country, so go fuck yourself when heroes with a lot more firepower than that get a lot more scrutiny.

>>851129

>anons doesn't understand the concept of increasing standard

>>851129

Then what do you do when half the police force is easily corruptible assholes that just want to abuse authority?

>>851135

Replace them with nothing?

Arguably having better officers cannot offset lack of manpower.

>>851131

Show me what something like that resulted in smaller police force at a time when crime is increasing?

>>increasing standard

Yeah, I'm sure dropping 99% of applicants will greatly increase "standards" by some magic. Yup, just failing most of of people is a great way to solve problems. Because I'm sure the heroes out there right now are total shit. What we need is tighter rules and less heroes!

>>851131

>Yet a single officer shooting a unarmed suspect is enough to negatively impact all officers in a country

We all know this is because of niggers. Japan doesn't have a nigger problem. It's not at all applicable.

>have a quirk that turns your upper body into sand

>become a pro hero

>get half your body captured

>die

He should have just used a gun.

>>851198

>likes BBQ

>dies to dabi

>>851108

>Class A-1 passing completely - now hat is shit.

They passed the first test, anon. There's still the second. They don't all pass

>>849779

>>849784

They dont write it to sound smart or be a good explanation: they write it to give the heroes a weakness. One of your exact examples was applied during the provisional license exam when Momo coudnt make more shit and got tired.

>>850987

Its still cucked japanese culture. I think WW2 still happened in BNHA because America is still a real place so modern day japan still has no guns.

Some of the villains like Stain use weapons, the main issue is that a lot of characters that have huge potential with guns never use them. For example Iida would be really fucking deadly with a gun because he could just reciproburst behind someone and plug them a bunch of times.

>>851271

Its my quirk, I cant control it. What was he actually trying to say?

>>851276

The WW2 comment was a comparison of time to point out how ridiculous it is that no one knows who the fuck AfO is. it has absolutely nothing to do with the actual events of the comic.

>>851066

Endeavor having the ability to use fire to hover, fly, and propel himself actually makes a lot of sense, how was he the #2 hero second only to All Might for so long without the ability to leap tall buildings in a single bound or travel faster than a normal human? I'm just surprised Horikoshi didn't establish this ability sooner.

>>848682

Didn't his arm heal from using that lolicorn as a health potion while activating his ultimate suicide powerup?

>>851317

Nah, only the injuries he was taking right then while using OF A at 100%. His arms are still fucked up. Of course, just like with Mirio it's not out of the realm of possibility she could in the future.

>>851317

His dream about OfA healed his crippled arm.

>>852212

Either Hori outright lied in the interview like the cunt that he is or after the interview he made up some bullshit Shinsou arc to pad the story even more.

>Shinsou arc

>>852250

Shinsou arc is something that has been built up since the sports festival.

>>852428

WRYYYYYYYYYY

>Invisible girl naked except for gloves and shoes

Hot.

>>851138

>Yeah, I'm sure dropping 99% of applicants will greatly increase "standards" by some magic.

You made it very obvious you've never seen a selection test change their standards of selection, increasing or reducing the number of accepted people.

Lowering standards, affirmative action, increasing the number of accepted people, all of those lower the quality of the people who pass the test.

>>852458

Good post. Check out the latest chapter of Vigilantes where the police are heavily involved. The only issue they had was underestimating a quirk. Or so it seems.

>>852481

> latest chapter of Vigilantes where the police are heavily involved.

I thought that was just an Idol manga at this point, why the fuck are the police in it?

>>851138

>Yeah, I'm sure dropping 99% of applicants will greatly increase "standards" by some magic

Two colleges. One has a 2% acceptance rate. One has a 23%. Which do you think is considered more prestigious, you mong?

>>852489

>Make fun of Americans for misunderstanding other countries' cultures

>Thinks Die Hard is an average day in the police force

Fuckers love to think they're superior to everyone else when everyone is equally retarded.

When did Vigilantes turn into some tepid slice of life? This thing has been a total snooze for a good 5 chapters now.

Why is every girl on this show so god damn sexy? Why are they all so fuckable? It should be illegal to create so much potential for porn, but my penis is not complaining.

>>852435

>Not the qt dragon smolder that actually had an interesting quirk

I'm really glad this series hasn't hit the tumblrverse at large because it's one of those settings (Like Kingdom Hearts with organization 13 members or Sonic with animal OCs) where OC creation is very simple and easy. Instead all we get is quality qts

>>852525

What part of "she just seems to be the BnHA-fied version of the artist's already existing chracter" did you not understand?

>>852485

CONSIDERED. Key word.

There's a point of diminishing returns.

You're getting less and less improvement with harsher standards after a certain point. You already have elite schools with tough selection processes, and you're in need of heroes, as there clearly aren't enough of them to go around given what we've seen.

>>852551

There is an over saturation of heroes but they are mostly shit that can't deal with anything greater than a street thug with a quirk instead of knife.

>>852512

>you are the country with most weapons per capita in the world

Is this actually true or just something BBC told you?

>Your police kills people (and occasionally thugs, thieves and criminals which is good )

Mostly farm tools, as I already explained. The rightful killings are not"occasional", the vast majority of our police shootings are good. It's not cops getting spooked because a nigger might have a gun, it's niggers pulling out their guns or shooting first. The vast majority of police do not ever shoot at someone. Of those that do, it's a tiny minority that aren't fully justified.

>So if you believe that a cop in your country isn't reaching for his/her gun when stopping a car for running a red light or a busted light because this is in their minds

Because they don't. You can check body cam footage, you could observe how police actually act, or you could be a retarded third world subhuman who gets his information from his controlled media.

>you are god damn delusional rather than critical of your own god damn culture

Our culture is one of rights, and involves not bowing down to every fucking subhuman who's watched a TV cop sitcom.

>>852512

>>852579

Cops are like any other group of people, in that there are evil fuckers amongst them. It's just that any position of power attracts more evil people to them, than normal positions. But by and large, the majority of cops won't even bother you if you just drive normally, and don't make a scene in public. And even then, in the former it's easy to deal with (keep your hands on the steering wheel, and announce every action you're going to take), and the latter they're trained in defusing situations.

There's bad cops, yeah, I've had at least one encounter that fucked me up, but I haven't even been stopped by a cop in at least 5 years.

>>852572

>C cups

>Being big enough to pop out

I want Cuckchan to leave.

>>852572

is diives the new minus8 trash?

Next week's episode is an anime original and totally departs from the current scene. Weird choice.

>>852704

You can say that again. Why not put the filler before or after the loicence exam?

Found this. Apparently it's some weird charity thing. So kind of like a holiday I guess. Terrible timing though.

>Next week is the nation-wide Japanese charity event "24h TV - Love Saves The Earth", in which every TV station changes their program and sends stuff related to the charity event instead. Most normal programs don't run (i.e. Detective Conan anime, which has the timeslot right after MHA), but MHA instead decided to air a special episode that ties-in with the charity event and the movie.

>>847800

Is there a reason why there is so much art by different artists even of BHA characters drawing each other naked? It seems to be a niche thing,

>>848149

It's stated in the manga that Nana had a quirk, please learn to read.

>New chapter is out

>Everyone is furiously sucking off Shinso

>Tsuyu got an ass reduction

>Shinso got a new toy

Nigger, that's all I need to say, no other criticism.

>>849327

>He who lives for ideals can only save ideals.

Well those ideals are attached to other people, so... ?

So if you dudes don't like the writing, why do you read/watch it? Maybe you're just hoping it'll get better? Don't you all usually naysay about anything ever getting better?

Honestly I'm starting to think back on all of what's there, and I can't find one good arc or scene that made me say, "This is good writing!" Granted, the Gentle Criminal fight really put Deku's ideals to the test, but basically he won in spite of Gentle and Love's heart-breaking backstories. Now they're in separate jail cells, and will probably get shelved for the rest of the story.

You do realize it takes a mad genius like Oda to be successful in a weekly manga, right?

>>858717

DAMMIT Sheik is Cammie how did I mess that up

I still don't believe that the Cammie in the arena was Toga, so maybe that's why