/a/ - Animu & Mango

There is no "usual style" to anime. More often than not the genre determines the overall look of a show but even then you find exceptions.

There aren't that many horror shows I know of, but then again I'm not much of a horror fan so some probably slipped past my radar. I don't think horror would play well with the standard 12-13 20 minute TV episode format. There's Kagewani, which is low budget short anime but I think makes the most of that in the first season where it does a decent job of being a suspenseful if a bit overly by-the-numbers monster of the week type horror show with an interesting artstyle, even though the second season turns a bit too plot-heavy and gives up on a lot of the cool monsters and mystery for it.

>>842817

I won't even bother with reading your post, because I know that Lovecraftian weird fiction simply can't work as a cartoon, and other forms of "horror" seem to be a waste of time and effort.

>>842817

>Has there been any great horror anime?

As far as I'm aware, no. It's possible but no one has actually pulled through on a good horror show. I know Another did horror, and it was ok. But the plot twists and the nature of the horror element was stupid. It is also kind of hard to replicate visually what your imagination can come up with. Like with Lovecraftian horror, the monster's real description is left up to the limits of the readers mind, not just the words of the author.

>>842817

I feel you, anon as I haven't found one myself and I think it's not suitable for the format it's in (I say this intuitively). Scratch that, I remember Midori Shoujo, which is an OVA and not series and could maybe be up your alley. The most unsettling thing from anime that I've watched is the final two episodes of Berserk, but that doesn't meet your criteria. I think anime can do suspense but never full on horror.

>>842825

>I know Another did horror, and it was ok.

It was very underwhelming for horror, but easily better than most of the other contenders.

>>842825

Horror movies and horror games both work. As have some episodes of horror anthology series like the X-files or Tales from the Crypt keeper. Two very different styles but both still horror.

>>842825

>Like with Lovecraftian horror, the monster's real description is left up to the limits of the readers mind, not just the words of the author.

Not just that, but Lovecraft's whole writing style depended upon presenting his stories as real. And how could you honestly sit through an anime thinking "yes, it might have happened"? It doesn't really work even with those found footage films that were so popular not so long ago.

Also, I recommend to read his own writings in this subject, here is a short one:http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/essays/nwwf.aspx

>>842830

Reading Lovecrafts work for the first time recently I don't believe any of them are written as if it's real. It all contains some bizarre novelty which makes it feel like a story. There's only ever the story, nothing surrounding it matters so it's too hyper focused. You could claim it's to be brief for publication or letters but it's still clearly fiction.

>>842831

I'd say as a seven year old, Princess Mononoke was fucking terrifying to watch between the demons, apes, and boars. The forest spirit (both in old man form and nightwalker form) was fucking terrifying and gave me nightmares for years as a kid growing up.

>>842845

To a seven year old an angry teacher is terrifying so I think that particular qualifier sort of invalidates any statement that might be added to it.

>>842830

>>842833

He describes most of the monsters in a lot of detail though? Though it's more that they're described in a contradictory way that's confusing to the reader, unless they stop reading and compulsively sit down to put a picture together or search on your modern internet. It's an important distinciton to make because 'up to the viewer's imagination' means that the entity is inferred by our actions or the remains after having passed by. Lovecraft adds a lot of specific details without actually covering the big picture of what the entity is, which is an important distinction to make because it complements the ethereal style of writing that really draws you into the story; and into the mystery of the unknown.

Aoi Bungaku.

I got sick as fuck watching the first arc, it actually PTSD'ed me into dropping the series. True human horror.

>>842915

I'm not that deep but I'll give you 2 examples.

Old Bugs's history is obvious and spelt out to you in the opening of the story. For a purpose which can not be explained. It just simply is because it completes the story and without it you have no story.

In the Yuan mine story the writer has an Aztec ring he got from India. Why? Doesn't say, doesn't even try to explain it just hand waves it away.

I'm not saying some of the stories aren't good and interesting but he is obviously telling stories and then matches in whatevers needed at each step to complete them.

>>842817

It can still work with cuteness and bright colors. Just put lolis in a setting like that opening scene to Saving Private Ryan, and make the entire show with rape and gore, with it being about the comradery the lolis share. Maybe that's not really "horror", but I really want to see something like this.

>>842932

I've always been curious how artists do it or if there's something mentally wrong with them. Consider that to many people, just looking/staring at the first one would bring on a sense of revulsion that you'd think would overpower any desire to do anything other than look away from it. For an artist to design something like that effectively, they must either:

>A) Overcome the desire to look away

>B) Only do it in small batches at a time to avoid the revulsion forcing them away

>C) Never have felt revulsion from it in the first place

In any of those three scenarios, the artist must clearly have a screw loose.

>>842966

>Pupa

>A horror anime

It seemed more like a shitposting anime to me. Didn't they dedicate an entire episode to the chick biting her brother's shoulder off?

>>842975

>taiyaki dinner

That's terribly unhealthy.

>>842825

>I know Another did horror, and it was ok

Really stretching the definition of 'horror' there. And 'ok'.

>>842822

>There is no "usual style" to anime.

This is a straight up lie, of course, anyone can tell that the style of anime has been shifting every decade, which would be impossible if there wasn't a "usual style".

Only real life can do horror, everything else is shit-tier.

>>842932

Yamishibai is essentially throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks, but yeah, it does deliver some good unsettling sequences.

>>842938

I'm not a graphical artist, but when you're crafting something you've got this sort of tunnel vision. Both because you're focusing on the specific elements, and because your mind is focusing on the task generally speaking. That, and you start with the basics and add the creepy elements as you go. Do you imagine the guys who did the practical effects for The Thing constantly reacted the same way you did when you saw it on film?

>>843047

Horror isn't worth shit if it's realistic. Surreal or fucking bust, kid.

>>842817

This thread is retarded.

Anime is not a style or genre - it's a medium. It's almost certainly possible to pull off a horror anime - whether anyone has bothered is another matter.

>being scared of something that doesn't exist in real life

Are you an idiot?

Shiki answered that question already.

>>842978

Healthy, no. Comfort food yes.

To be honest, I was going to make it yakitori, but the flow looked better this way.

>>842831

Jigoku shoujo is fucking shit. Most stories the 'bad guys' are innocent or undeserving of their fate and the people casting the curse are brainless dumbfucks that just make watching it infuriating.

>>843096

So absolutely never?

Anything by Junji Ito? Saya no Uta? Is this the designated newfag thread?

>>842817

>Can anime do horror?

Are you not familiar with their porn?

>>843146

Junji Ito makes great horror manga but none of it works in an anime.

I haven't seen any horror anime that has actually been scary. I guess it also has to do with how much desynthesized one is. The older you get, the more you get exposed to stuff and you develop a resistance to spooky shit. Specially here in imageboards where you can get gorespammed out of nowhere.

I've found mango doing wonders with horror. The art can get ultra detailed and realistic because you don't have to simplify it for the sake of easier animation. The lack of color means you can attribute the scariest color to you into the pages. You can also dictate the phase of the story by your own reading speed and the turning page expectation effect adds to the suspense.

>>842831

Jigoku shoujo isn't even scary at all. It's just some about dumb girls cursing other people, mostly because they're brats that can't take a scolding or tough love then regret it as they realize they were wrong all along.

>>842932

Yamishibai has interesting but underdeveloped stories and 90% of times it relies on jumpscares.

The anime called Corpse Party, for sure will creep you out.

>>842938

When you're in charge it goes from "ew that's gross" to "fuck yea I made something gross as THAT!" Everything which makes you uncomfortable makes them feel like they''re achieving something.

I do art stuff and I like horror themes.

>>843181

I don't find manga scary for this very reason. It's too static, you have these action scenes of mono poses shifting to more mono poses. It's often hard to gauge how characters are interacting with each other.

The hyper detail can also be a flaw because there is limits to how much you can detail something before it becomes a cluster fuck and you lose all the detail for one whole. Consider a dragon's scales for an example of this. Shit loads of details but you lose that detail and only see the shape of it.