/a/ - Animu & Mango

>>816399

Did we get a new crew member?(besides Jinbe) I feel like we're getting a new crew member from this arc.

>>816401

I can't see Carrot staying. Jinbe is coming later, I guess, but it also seems like he's about to get soulfucked by Big Mom. At best, we're ending this arc knowing that some of the Germa are still out there, Sanji's family issues are resolved and also Pudding took all his memories of loving her, I guess? So that means Sanji won't waste time thinking about going back to get his waifu and.. that's about it? Not to say that nothing happened, but the resolution here was Sanji returning to his duties as cook and the Strawhats escaping Big Mom's territory. So it's probably off to Wano at this point, and we'll find out what the fuck happened with Big Mom's Soul Pocus thing some other time.

What a shit ending.

>>816454

>did Brooks always have a tongue

Nigga it's a cartoon

>>816488

There was a ton of stuff happening in this chapter. I had to go back and double check because it felt like 40 pages, instead of just 18 or so. Oda really knows how to pack in a lot of stuff in a compact number of panels, while other guys will take 10 chapters to do what Oda does in a couple pages.

>>816494

>the lone circlejerker of the thread

Your shit reads like a youtube vlogger. No wonder the OP threads died.

Jimbei and all the suckers left behind are pretty much confirmed dead. The next time we see this whale fatso is going to be he shambling around as a soul-less husk

>>816529

>>816570

I would probably be a lot more pissed, especially about Jinbe and a lot of things, but Brulee really made me feel the feels something deep.

>>816570

>Crescent Moon Galley

Damn that's cool. First Gerth turns out to have Nami's proto TS design from RD and now this guy comes back.

I liked it!

>>816584

Be honest, even if you liked it, it could've been better.

>>816587

>What's to stop them from killing everyone they love in east blue in revenge?

They won't do that yet because they have bigger fish to fry. Literally. The Sun Pirates were the part of the reason why Big Mom protected Fishman Island (aside from the candy tribute). Now that they've betrayed her in their well meaning foolishness, she'll want revenge against Fishman Island. First we'll go to Reverie, then we'll either get Wano where they'll reunite with Jinbe and he'll reveal that Fishman Island is in terrible danger. Then they'll go back and Luffy will do something that will make Shyarly's prediction come true and destroy the island, probably in a fight with BM. But fuck, the Sun Pirates doomed their entire fucking species for this.

>>816399

The big retarded giant gets flash fried in one scene by Oven and knocked out and he's suddenly underwater to pull the sunny to safety in the next? I knew it was going to require an asspull to recover from Oven, but that was a bit blatant.

>>816596

As I mentioned before, it would've been perfect if the escape had actually involved Jinbe's skills as a helmsman doing some fucking impossible cuh-ray-zee maneuvers. Would've helped too if Oda explained or if someone mentioned Oven's attacks have a duration or get weaker over time to help ease the asspull. Makes sense to me. Devil Fruit users get weakened in water. Oven sticks his hands in the water, but over time slowly feels more and more drained, causing him to pull his hands out to refresh or having the attack get weaker.

>>816586

The weird thing about Big Mom was that she spent most of this arc being less of a character, less of a personal threat, and more of a natural disaster. She was just raw chaos ripping across the ocean after the Strawhats. Not an enemy to be fought, but something to be run from, and that's fine... but then they switched gears at the last second, and suddenly she's right back where she started. Too damned powerful for anyone to fight. Too retarded and crazy to be reasoned with. An inconceivably large fleet of ships at her command, each led by her children that could apparently single-handedly curbstomp the strawhats without breaking a sweat. The wedding subplot is out the window. The Germa are fucked, I guess? Would have been nice to see Judge leaving a mountain of corpses in his wake as the leader of the Germa. Maybe the tide-turning event is Judge opening up all the cloning vats and flooding Totland with Germa soldiers.

The Katakuri fight suffered from playing it's hand too early. I enjoyed it overall because Katakuri's characterization and development during that fight was top notch. The big problem was that Luffy never had the upper hand. They were never shown to be on even footing or that Luffy was holding his own. Instead, we got dozens of chapters of Luffy in pure fucking agony, like we've never seen before. He was getting fucking destroyed the entire fight, ripped to pieces, beaten by someone so strong that Luffy's haki couldn't protect him at all, meaning that not even his natural toughness or his rubber body mattered at all. If that aspect had been dialed back and it became more of an endurance fight (the damn thing lasted hours in story) that would have been fine. Instead, every fucking thing in this arc was deadly on a level rarely pushed in One Piece. It sets a dangerous precedent for the rest of the series. We've got several more arcs to go and they're all supposed to be more dangerous and chaotic than this. How the fuck is that going to work out when every single fight is against an opponent even worse than guys like Oven and Katakuri?

>>816593

Now that looks badass. It would've also implied that Luffy took some training with the Boa Sisters in their snake forms after Rayleigh left. A stretched out, lean and flexible form like that is perfect for dodging. If combined with real snake man's arms it would make one heck of a form. I also like how it doesn't have the SSJ hair.

>>816593

>Chopper + Carrot + Pedro in a team fight could've been interesting.

And large team fights can work. The Oars fight was one of the best in the series.

>>816593

Also he did do the helmsman thing when escaping Big Mom's living wave and they even called him a helmsman there. But that was about it. If he had helped them escape using masterful helmsmanship, that would've been the best way to end things

>>816697

The fact that Katakuri let Luffy win makes me wonder how exactly Luffy expects to become PK. Back after Marineford and Luffy had his break down, I felt that it was going to be a real change for him especially since he realized that he was weak. It made me think he would do whatever it takes to never lose again. So when the Grand Fleet showed up I thought "this is what Luffy needs. Not power ups. Just influence and territory like the other big names to keep what he loves safe". But then he just outright rejects it. Thankfully they still swore loyalty to him, but Luffy going into Tottoland without even contacting one of the fleet members for backup was a really foolish move for them. "Makes me wonder how he expects to tackle the rest of the NW with just his own power" is what I would say if I obviously didn't know that he'll just do power ups and shit. But thankfully Wano seems to be doing it right (maybe) since the Mink Tribe and the samurais and ninjas loyal to Momo will be there as well along with the Heart Pirates, Kidd, Apoo and Hawkins.

I'm really starting to think that Carrot might stay on as a permanent Strawhat.

What is one peice?

>>816757

The friends we made along the way.

>>816757

The worlds biggest doubloon.

>>816757

It's either some worthless memento, a weapon of mass destruction, or >>816768

Those are my top 3 guesses. I think it's gong to be a physical thing because in Sabaody archipelago Rayleigh was going to tell them what it was and the way he was saying it made it feel like a thing and not just a concept. But of course that's just a guess based on a fan translation.

Good chapter. I fucking loved the Katakuri and Brulee shit, as well as how it ended. Now we get to get hype, for whatever the hell comes next.

Reveri, or Wano?

>>816757

>>816801

>>816768

It's not a friendship thing, Oda's on record saying it won't be that.

My guess is it'll be something like Roger's ship, treasure, all the forbidden knowledge he gained so like Poneglyph rubbings or transcriptions, and maybe a crap ton of miscellaneous other stuff, potentially in a cave, or buried underground.

As well as inevitably being something none of us can entirely predict, given how Oda's both played expectations straight, and subverted them.

>>816810

>something none of us can entirely predict

Roger's porn stash and it's all gross hairy old lady JAVs.

>>816757

Information about the void century that reveals the sinister truth of the world.

>>816757

An IOU.

>>816777

>>816810

One Piece will probably be all of Roger's treasure and his ship inside an underground or underwater temple from the void century which contains the biggest poneyglyph in the world which is the actual One Piece and it contains the void history and everything else of importance like superweapon blueprints, Sea Devil shit, Wano copyright and a message from Roger engraved near the end. It'll be really Goonies-esque at first no doubt.

>>816757

>>816959

The One Piece is an alternate world Roger created with his unnamed unrevealed devil fruit that hides the real treasure in it's seas! That's right, this series will be twice as long!

>>816986

Read all about it in Monthly Shonen Jump! It's the all new, all exciting: SUPER ONE PIECE!

>>817101

Two Piece!!

>>817308

Christ.

>>816716

Luffy has been steadily gaining allies on his trip to the end of the line, its just that instead of forcing them to do his bidding he instead forges a bond with them. While he can't really enforce laws on these allies territory, he knows theres more than enough people willing to break him out or go to war for him.

>>817030

Maybe the One Piece is what the weapons were made for. Something so dangerous, it needed to be locked up

>>818202

Maybe its this "Sea Devil" the series keeps mentioning. Hell maybe Devil Fruits are its splintered powers/soul while One Piece is its hollow body. The ultimate living weapon.

I hope there will be a devil fruit based on the tengu in the next arc

>>818260

>Maybe its this "Sea Devil" the series keeps mentioning.

I thought the Sea Devil was the thing that ate Shanks's arm?

>There are people that don't think that Big Mom is not being kited to where Kaido is.

The goal was always to get Sanji and then leave. The only added thing was to save Sanji's family but they had to do a failed assassination to get Beje's cooperation. This is unlike other arcs where they fight the villain to liberate a country because the Yonkou actually owns the country. They will have to defeat Lilin one day but at this point, that wasn't the goal. If they are going to defeat Yonkou, why not do it with all the crew present and to top it off, defeat them both with a lot of domino effect sequences to make it feasible. Next is the reverie and will finally see how a lot of the pro straw hat leaders will affect the world.

>>818434

From what we know, the World Government is a semi-autonomous Monarchy with nearly global authority. Their main goal is likely to preserve the status quo at all costs, which means eliminating Roger, or anyone like him, and keeping the Poneglyph's secrets out of everyone's hands. Roger, as we also know, was able to understand the Sea Monsters, and had the King's Haki.

If you ask me One Piece is probably secondary to whatever secret the glyphs hold, and Roger probably knew that, but hid a massive stash of treasure near wherever those glyphs point to.

>>818434

>all kinds of other weird shit in the world, devil fruit may just be a thing that just exists as part of the fantasy of the world.

I really hope that is the case. Finding out what they really are would kind of ruin the mystery. Unless its what that other anon said about it being linked to some ancient sea devil, and it kind of adds up since Blackbeard is collecting DF powers. With enough of those, they could be used to revive the thing. But again, it would be best to not know what they are simply find out how they work. How stuff works is more interesting overall and it really would ruin the charm if it turns out that DFs are just a bunch of nanobots from the void century which turn you into magitech cyborgs or something. That would just be generic as fuck and would ruin the wonder of the setting, especially if its like some theorists blab on about the world of OP actually being Earth in the future or some dumb shit. That trope is way too overused. Anyway, all we know so far is that DFs work by affecting your bloodstream and altering your "lineage factor". That's what I hope Vegapunk does. Explain how it works but keep it at that. As for Sea Kings, they're probably like dragons, ancient and wise but vicious, and know everything that's been going in the world since the dawn of civilization, but some just don't care like the more savage sea kings and others are peacefully watching over the things they value, like Fishman Island and its princess.

It being Roger's treasure is really likely, but among the treasure could be the things others have said. Ancient glyphs, weapons/weapon blueprints, historical shit, maybe even moon people stuff. One Piece not being a collection of grand golden treasure would be kind of a bummer. I still wonder how exactly Rafteal would work to keep it so hard to reach, especially since its located on a very thin strip of sea, and marines can easily travel across the calm belt so there's nothing stopping them from just going to the edges of North and West Blue and sending some fleets there. Even Oda said in an SBS that Akainu could find One Piece in under a year if he was interested in revealing what it was. But chances are Raftael is probably hidden by some ancient devil fruit ability that's still active somehow (and there are fruits that still leave behind a part of their power even after the user has died like the Ope Ope no Mi's immortality gift. So maybe Raftael exists inside its own dimension like with the Mirror World or Door world. Or maybe its just an underwater island in a bubble or at the center of the earth (would be a nice reference to Jules Verne).

>>818439

>If you ask me One Piece is probably secondary to whatever secret the glyphs hold, and Roger probably knew that, but hid a massive stash of treasure near wherever those glyphs point to.

Maybe he put all of his treasure in the same place, which is raftel. Maybe Raftel is the ruins of the kingdom from the void century that once ruled the world and all of his treasure is surrounding the last poneyglyph.

>>818437

Lilin didn't use 100% of her devil fruits, did she ? I can't remember.

>>818654

>Lilin didn't use 100% of her devil fruits, did she ?

What do you mean by 100%? She used it as much as she fucking could and use her own soul regularly to bring shit to life when needing to cross the sea.

>>818702

>100%

Awakening power, I mean

>>818708

That's hard to say. Oda has only showed off "Awakenings" for Zoans and Paramecia users who can produce stuff/turn into stuff (honestly those kinds of paramecias should've just been their own type, like pseudo-logia or some shit). My only guess is that maybe awakening for the Soru Soru is being able to take souls without needing to induce fear or being able to break the limits of your fruit's power and use souls on to make zombies. Or maybe Incarnations are part of Awakening since Carmel never used Incarnations. Nobody can really say for sure. The non-canon Gild Tesoro's awakening was just him having Mantra-like sensory via his gold, effectively allowing him to sense anything that was happening where there was gold. One could also assume his gold form may also be part of awakening but that's never outright stated, and again he ain't canon as far as we know.

Also, is it just me or are the OP threads (and 8chan in general) slow as fuck lately? Even /v/ is now pretty damn slow.

>>818757

So, you know how, just before a tidal wave hits, the water off the shore pulls out from the beach before crashing back in with an extreme destructive force?

It's like that, but with Summer. Get ready boys, It's going to get Newfagged up in here soon.

>>818756

>Nobody can really say for sure.

So we have to wait the next chapters ? Because since this arc, each time we saw Big Mama, she always was piss off and going crazy : It wouldn't surprise me if in the next chapter(s) she unlock the full potential of her fruit.

>>818788

Um... the Big Mom arc is over anon. Now comes the Reverie.

>>819028

I just find out, hehe..

>still no chapter

Is it a nipponese holiday again?

>>819081

Huh, I remember reading the latest chapter on a Monday; looks like things have delayed over the years.

>>819081

Okay, looks like we get a chapter this week. Here it is in Korean.

http://wasabisyrup.com/archives/8Ch2U5scmgw

>>819094

Can't read Korean, but as far as I can tell... SPOILERS:

>we get to see everyone

>assorted Kings and Strawhat allies

>Crocodile, Shanks, Blackbeard, Coby and Helmeppo, the Dressrosa people, Bege (he survived!), Drum Island folks, Vivi, Fishman island royalty, Fleet Admiral Akainu

>(Not shown: Pekoms or Germa 66. Their fates still unknown)

>They're all reacting to the paper

>Final page, we get to see why

>Luffy's bounty has gone up to 1.5 BILLION (that's higher than Katakuri)

>the end

It's up on Jaimini!

Sanji has raid tech but says he'll never use it.

Zeus lives inside the Climatact.

Luffy is declared the fifth emperor of the sea and the battle with Big Mom is called his victory.

Koby's Observation Haki is obscenely powerful now.

The rest of the spoilers are spot on. Great chapter that sets up a lot.

Fuck this chapter was fun to read, so much interesting stuff going on.

>>819203

One Piece is so well developed and so long that I find myself caring more and more about the politics and world building than the actual battles. Over twenty years of familiarisation makes for some excellent material and story telling opportunities.

>>819209

It's why /tg/ considers it the best of Shonen Jump's run. Perfect setting for stealing characters and elements from for Tabletop.

>>819210

I think about that a lot myself and I honestly think HxH is tied with OP in that, because of how nen works, because of how the Hunter's association works, and because of all the tidbits of information we have about the world. You could come up with a lot of custom shit that is completely unrelated to the main series and would still fit comfortably in a HxH setting and would be easy for a master to run.

But I also absolutely agree that One Piece's world is full of great elements for a tabletop campaign and I think it's only going to get better as we see more islands and learn more about the world.

>>819209

In almost any other manga Koby would've remained a bland side character and immediately forgotten about.

But here he is, swole as fuck and ready to catch up with his old friend enemy.

Whoa whoa whoa. am I the only one noticing NAMI IS RUNNING AROUND WITH A PIECE OF BIG MOM'S SOUL, THIS IS GOING TO BACKFIRE HORRIFICALLY

Coby knew Luffy was "all over the newspaper" before actually looking at it

He too can see the future like Katakuri

>>819221

Homies don't work that way. The "souls" that Big Mom rips out are like a spiritual energy source, rather than a part of the person's personality and mind. This is why Zeus and Prometheus were oddly dopey and able to act and decide on their own until Big Mom exerted her power to command them.. and even then, they were just like "yeah, sure let's do that, I guess"

>>819217

Helmeppo still hanging on is something I love about this series. He was such a basic starter character and here he is in the big leagues.

>>819223

I'm pretty sure he's just got absurd levels of awareness. Being able to detect words on a page isn't really future sight. You can see it before that when Helmeppo comments on Coby detecting the torpedo before anyone else. Guy's got long range radar.

>>819228

They are parts of her though. Would that mean they could be tracked by a vivre card? I think that's what the anon was implying.

>>819231

Speaking of Helmeppo, wasn't he holding his kukri the wrong way?

>>819253

He was resting it over his shoulder the wrong way, yeah. Probably easier than having the weighted end held upwards.

Also of note is that we've been introduced to another member of the Ilusia Kingdom's royalty. I reckon we're gonna get another ally out of Thalassa Lucas thanks to the efforts of Luffy and Strawhat-friendly forces.

nami having the Zeus is a pretty big upgrade and big mom wants to know what she lost but she lost a lot here

>>819231

Hard to say. It's not like Nami having Big Mom's Vivre Card pointed her at every Homie that she made with her own soul.

>>819263

That's what I was thinking too. Seeing as she can't add souls to extend her life or to others, seems like the souls take on entirely unique properties then. I wonder if she can choose their personalities at all or if they're entirely random. Because it'd be a real pain to produce one that acts like a prick, but now I've remembered that all the souls were subservient to her regardless of their strength.

King Baum even bowed down to her, despite being the most dangerous person in the New World.

>>819259

This chapter was a great way of reminding people what the actual goals were and proving how much was gained.

Also, reminder that Katakuri didn't throw the fight, he just fell on his back intentionally.

>>819267

King Baum rebelled for the sake of surviving though. Also, it seems Big Mom can decide the personalities since Zeus, Prometheus and Napoleon are created from her own soul yet each are masculine and don't share her attitude on things, with Napoleon and Prometheus being more level headed than BM. And when Pudding used her flashback technique, all the homies in the woods reverted back to the personalities of the owner's of their souls. Mary my words one of those shits will be the one who has the majority of Pedro's lifespan.

>>819270

>Pedro's soul gets released

>Blows itself up

>>819276

>Pedro's soul gets harvested

>gets put into one of Big Mom's Cannonballs

>>819277

>Reverses direction and rams himself into Perospero

>Only manages to blow his other arm off

It's been a while. Did vivi ever become a member?

>>819316

I think Luffy has to make it so. Otherwise he's just a slave.

>>819328

She was a member, but she had to separate for her royal duties.

There will be a mini arc, right ?

>>819353

I think we're gonna get some Reverie action and then we'll return to the Strawhats when they're close to Wano.

>>819316

Zeus is less of a crew member and more of a proper New World power up for Nami, who would rapidly fall behind all the other Strawhats because all her powers are based on her gear and her weather knowledge. Getting a sentient cloud means she might actually be able to hold her own in a fight or two.

>>819401

Considering how much damage Zeus can put out when fed, he's definitely gonna become a great asset for the weather witch. I can't wait for her to steal Prometheus.

>>819416

I'm just so smug at how Morgan tripled Luffy's bounty on mostly bullshit claims.

This birdman is a real power player.

>>819401

I like the idea of him being an actual crew member more, he has an actual personality and can still act independent from Nami. It doesn't feel right for him to being treated like a weapon or object. And maybe that's how Big Mom treated him and how he'll come to like the Straw Hats.

Any "little secret" in that chapter ??

>>819228

She did specify Zeus, Prometheus and her sword were made from pieces of her own soul, and that's why they're more powerful than the others. It was also stated (when the cannonballs misfired) that when she's starving they're harder to control.

>>819474

There's probably a ton given the sheer number of characters referenced. What stuck out to me was that we saw Crocodile. I think he's coming back later. He must be planning something big if we're being reminded he's still active and out there.

What ever happened to Zorro, Ussop, Franky and Robin. Did they go ahead to Wano? I don't

>>819484

They hung back on Zou for a bit, then headed off to Wano with Momonosuke, Kinemon, and the other Samurai.

>>819401

That's like saying Stronger isn't part of the Blackbeards. He's not a crewmember per se, but he's definitely their direct subordinate/slave.

>>819276

>>819277

>>819280

How many ackbar jokes can be fit into Pedro I wonder?

>>819525

Oh God! If there's an article about Vegapunk on the journal, he must has done something worth making an article about him.

>>819525

His hair looks like a gardening hoe.

>>819528

He's the fucking head scientist of the marines... That goes without saying.

>>816757

I can hazard a guess.

The garden of eden

Think about all the references to the devils fruit.

Later there is the treasure tree adam which was destroyed.

Raftel is located in paradise

The big reveal will probably be that the celestial emperors used the fruit of the treasure tree to destroy the ancient kingdom in the void century.

Then they erased all the evidence they could, going so far as to destroy the tree. But the fruits continued to live on.

>>819605

>no tree

<but the fruits keep popping up

>>816757

Well, Oda has told us specifically it's not friendship or the journey or anything like that. Another mangaka asked him, and he offered to tell him what the ending is. He has it planned, it was planned from day one. He told us it's a physical thing.

The theory I've heard that I like best is that it's some kind of device that brings the continents together into "one piece". It's been pointed out the geography of the world means it's many times larger than our planet, and they have multiple moons. We also know Enel's new kingdom is a bunch of robots on the moon, and Enel will be back later.

We also know Luffy, Rogers, and the royals (the fishmen princess and momo) can hear "The Voice of All Things" which allows them to communicate with Sea Devils and other giant, sentient animals like Zou. Zou is forced to walk the ocean as punishment for some unnamed crime. For all we know Zou is giant, awakaned Elephant zoan.

We also know there are a bunch of ancient weapons the WG and pirates want. We know there's an arc in Fishman Island that Sea Devils are meant to pull, and that there's a prophecy Luffy will burn down Fishman Island. I think this will happen, but it'll be to save them.

I think as others have said, it'll have Roger's ship, a bunch of treasure, the truth of the Void Century, and a physical treasure. However, I think when they get there, there's going to be some kind of puzzle and a sacrifice involved, and a huge battle between all the strongest pirates will take place. I also think Blackbeard will get there first, initially win through trickery and underhanded means and then Luffy will have to beat him.

Then I think it's going to come to a head and end in the destruction of the Marines, Gorosai, World Government and the Celestial Dragons. I believe Rogers planned all of this, that he willingly sacrificed himself to kick off the age of pirates so there would be a strong force to oppose the WG.

>>819617

You raise a good point

>>819609

Chapter 703 dumbass

>>819805

I don't know what you mean by "overlooked" Pretty much everyone accepts that premise.

>>819493

I want to see Stronger's bounty poster, if Chopper has one.

>>819566

In our own world we don't hear much about military scientists, at least by name anyhow. The thing is with One Piece we don't have a good frame of reference because we see it through the lens of Luffy and crew who are outlaws on the fringes of society. Maybe Vegapunk is in the news all the time and like a celebrity, maybe not.

>>820721

Roger's illness, specifically. If One Piece is something that does something it raises the question of why Roger didn't just use it or activate it or have his crew do something with it. His final words even imply that he already had One Piece, but left it on Raftel. Roger knew he was going to die and chose to send others after his treasure. What's not obvious is why he wanted someone else to have One Piece. If it's a device that changes the world, why didn't he use it? If it's a weapon that could destroy the WG, why let them live? There's details here that we're missing, so it's not entirely clear what Roger's intentions are, even though we already know bits and pieces about him, specifically that he and Luffy share a lot of important traits.

>>820647

>Chapter 703 dumbass

Oh, so they do literally poof back into existence.

>>819605

I don't recall Adam being destroyed, only the kingdom that surrounded it. Only thing that survived was a village at its base that was protected by it.

>>819617

>elephant zoan

Oda has said that Zunisha is of a species of elephants with really long legs and double joints, basically like the Ring Long Land animals and Longarms and Longlegs. He's probably condemned for having been the war mount of some ancient warlord who used him to attack the Void Kingdom or something.

An island based on the tale 'Alice in wonderland' when ? I hope Oda thought about it. Also, post what you want to see (wish the most) in Ine Piece ?

>>820814

>Also, post what you want to see (wish the most) in Ine Piece ?

An ending

>>820814

Eh, Tottoland was pretty much Wonderland.

>sentient white rabbit

>sentient furniture, etc

>>820819

Yeah, you're right. There's so much to do with Wonderland, and I think Oda wasted it.

>>820817

>Oda dies before finishing One Piece

>>820954

God, every anime protagonist is a fucking manlet.

>>821155

Theyre all good I guess except for the third one and the other Chopper movie. Strong World is a must. But Z is kind of hit or miss. I havent watched Gold and I really dont feel motivated to.

>>821164

Gold does this weird thing where they have loads of random side characters from the main series appear in the background. Makes for an interesting game if you try to spot them. It would really trigger some autists who would try to figure out where this movie fits into the canon.

Otherwise, it's just a bit of fun. The heist sequence was pretty entertaining.

>>821167

Its obvious Gold isnt canon but I wonder if elements and characters introduced in it are like in Strong World. Zephyr seems like such a waste to not have him be canon too. Just feature him in a flashback and say he died avenging his family.

>>821155

Z, Strong World and Gold are good for the fights and animation. The one that abbreviates Chopper's arc into a movie is good, even if just for the fact that it lets you skip that whole arc, however it changes the order of things a bit and adds another villain with a nuke power for no reason. There's a couple little bonus episodes before Strong World and Gold that are also worth watching, and if you can get past the animation there's this short CG one that has a story that's kinda neat.

In general what I haven't liked about all of them is: The entire crew forgets about all of their strongest abilities until the last ten minutes of the film, and spends the entirety of it before that getting their asses kicked. Then at the last minute they mop the floor with their enemies.

>>821286

>As far as settings? I'm not sure what's left if you look at it like a video game.

When's the minecart level?

>>821310

That was the Silver Mine filler arc.

>>821314

>>821314

> Classical fantasy

Well we've seen plenty of knight armor, so it's probably a given. I wonder what Oda Elves would look like. Oda Orcs? Goblins?

>Actually I don't think OP had anything resembling a modern industrilized city (New York, Tokyo, etc.) as a setting.

Water 7 is fairly modern, the island Vegapunk is from is outright sci-fi, the moon had advanced technology and a race of robots, Germa 66, that island Robin spent the timeskip in looked downright cold war setting, basically everything with Law, the island Gold takes place in is clearly modeled after Las Vegas, with plumbing and television broadcasts and lots of light.

>>821317

>Gold takes place in is clearly modeled after Las Vegas, with plumbing and television broadcasts and lots of light.

I didn't watch Gold so I can't comment on this, but all the other places you stated aren't similar to a modern metropolis.

Water 7 for example still used horse carriges, Germa 66 and Vegapunk Island are sci-fi, Tequila Wolf has the cold war style.

I more thought about a modern city with skyscrapers, motor vehicles, electricity etc.

The island in Gold looks like it could be it, but like I said I haven't watched Gold.

>>821286

I honestly think the Minks thing should've been earth or quake based shit, or have electro be produced by their weapons via use of dials or something.

>>821314

>A high school setting.

I am sick to death of this setting. It stopped being fun after 2008. Last one I even gave a shit about was that Rumiko Takahashi one about the highschool girl and the shinigami who collects souls (basically just Inuyasha in modern day and if Bleach wasn't shit).

>>821355

Well you better get fucking ready for the strawhats in high school arc, followed by an arc where Luffy, Zoro and Sanji for an idol unit, and then an arc where Nami gets magical girl powers but instead of good stuff happening we just get suffering and edgy shit, and we top those off with an arc where Luffy is ran over by a truck, dies, and wakes up in a fantasy world.

>>821376

I could swear Oda made a one-shot spinoff about exactly this some years ago. Or maybe it was just a SBS doodle? I don't recall

>>821376

>and we top those off with an arc where Luffy is ran over by a truck, dies, and wakes up in a fantasy world.

Truck-kun is powerful but even in this setting it may require the service of this brother, Boat-kun.

>>821474

Someone ate the AutoAuto No Mi: Model Truck and now they have the power to send people to other worlds.

>>821286

>From the way they dress and what they're referred to we know space is involved.

Aren't they wearing those helmets to save them from the indignity of having to breathe the same air as those filthy commoners?

>>821502

That's what was said, yeah. Maybe it's that way now, but once upon a time it wasn't?

>>821481

>AutoAuto no Mi: Model Truck

Would that be Logia or a Zoan?

>>821386

He did. It was an Omake, like the Monster Time, Mafia Time and Obahan Time.

>>821542

It's clearly paramecia

>>821542

>>821594

Obviously, it's a legendary Zoan, like Sengoku's Zoan Human Buddha Model. being able to become Truck-sama is easily equal to becoming a divine being.

I'm assuming this time it's Golden Week for real, which means no WSJ series?

>>822262

Apparently, it ends tomorrow

>>822265

Hopefully Oda is well-rested and healthy come time for next week's chapter. He needs to live to finish this series and not fall apart like others have.

Yep, Golden Week kicking in to give the mangaka a rest. What are we gonna do for the next week?

Japanese are lazy bastards that are just sickly by nature. I don't know why they don't just work slightly less hours, or more efficiently, rather than just taking a week off.

>>822307

The problem is that the average Mangaka's schedule leaves about 4 hours for sleep each night, and very little time for anything else. This can be somewhat alleviated in the case of teamed up writers and artists, along with assistants to do the tedious stuff like backgrounds and toning, but it doesn't change the fact that making something on the level of the average manga in just under a week, every week, for years on end, is extremely exhausting and taxing. Even if nips were naturally more sickly, like you claim, it doesn't change the fact that they work harder than any other comic artist in the industry who can barely put out 50 pages of work in a year.

>>822312

The Japanese diet does lead to a weaker immune system, but that's not really an issue unless they get the dreaded, common cold. You're exactly right that it's the lifestyle a mangaka needs to maintain for years on end. I honestly hope SJ tries giving their mangaka mandatory breaks, have them on a rotating break schedule so everyone gets the same amount of time on and off (barring special cases like Oda who was on death's door for a while). I reckon you'd see a rise in quality for art and story. Having that breathing space to focus your efforts and rework ideas couldn't hurt, surely.

>>822714

Also, forgot to add that unlike those fuckwits, Oda actually takes care of himself. Only flaw he has is that he uses his free time to go work on stuff for the anime, the OP live shows or other events like OP Kyoto. Oda is probably one of the least laziest mangakas around, which is saying something considering how big OP is. Would've been bigger if not for 4kids and Toei's fuckery. But I'm not praising him. I'm just saying it as I see it. One of the things I have issues with in OP is that Oda hardly does enough "break" stories in between arcs or chapters to show the SHs developing as a pseudo family unit and showing them interact and grow. Hell most don't even know Luffy's past and hardly told each other about what they did for the last 2 years. I mean, this crew is close as fuck to each other yet they've spent more time apart than they have together and we've known them for almost 20 years while they have only known each other for about a year or so (2 years or so at most if we are to assume that the shit that happened pre-timeskip took place over a longer time period than a year as Oda implied).

>>822344

>The Japanese diet does lead to a weaker immune system

Citation needed.

>>822717

>But I'm not praising him.

I think you can praise him.

I already think HxH is the best shonen jump manga but can you fucking imagine how amazing it would be if Togashi worked like Oda?

As for the crew getting to know each other, wasn't that touched on at some point? I think they have this policy about not asking about personal stuff, it was a really dumb excuse.

>>822721

>I already think HxH is the best shonen jump manga but can you fucking imagine how amazing it would be if Togashi worked like Oda?

I honestly don't see the appeal of the series after York New. And especially after the Chimera Ant arc. Only reason anyone used to tell me to read it was because "its the best shonen ever/the world building detail is amazing". It is detailed but that's about it and the characters aside from Leorio are deadpan as fuck. Nowadays everyone tells me to read it because of some "trans representation" bullshit.

>I think they have this policy about not asking about personal stuff

That's one of the things I hated most about the series. Luffy refusing to hear Nami or Jinbe's pasts during the Arlong and FI arcs just feels so careless and superficial. Like they refuse to know about each other yet Oda tries to depict them as a close knit family despite knowing jack shit about each other. The readers and even the Marines know the Straw Hats better than they know themselves.

>>822738

>The various artbooks and splash pages show the Strawhats hanging out and bonding, doing different things together, being friends and such.. But man, when you break it down and even account for the travel time between islands, the Strawhats have spent maybe a few weeks total together in a casual capacity.

I used to like to pretend that the chapter covers were adventures they were having in between arcs and that they were visiting even more islands while we were enjoying just the fight stories since it wouldn't benefit a shonen to have complete focus on a "Straw Hats go to the flying elephant restaurant in the clouds Arc", but even then stuff like that could've been hinted at, but Oda has made it clear numerous times that the Straw Hats are just skimming through this magical sea as fast as possible. Even the anime used to try and add some filler in-between arcs to show just that, like the one after Thriller Bark showing Brook bonding with the crew or the Post-Alabasta arc giving us some Chopper x Robin bonding. But then Oda does something that makes it very clear that such moments could never have happened within the time frame. OP is usually trying to run on real time and that just kills potential friendship and character growth. Zou was probably the closest thing we got to that, but once again the crew was split up.

>>822961

Hell, I don't even care about them not bonding between arcs anymore, I just want them to not be split all the time.

>>823124

Feels like ages since they last fought together (hell they haven't been together in years, and last time they fought together as a team was in Fishman Island which was 7 freaking years ago). Even at Punk Hazard and Dressrosa they were running around all over the place and hardly together.

>>823165

The crew being split all the time is really just to raise the stakes. Can you imagine a full crew against Big Mom? All the weaker characters would fall to the wayside as Zoro, Luffy and Franky tore ass through the kingdom. It kind of sucks, because I really miss Franky. Glad they should be reuniting soon.

>>823361

Well, there might be some water devil fruit, but the salt of the sea would prefent him to control the waves.

>>816399

>[spoiler] IS DEAD

I don't buy it. He's gonna be fine and dandy in a couple dozen chapters just like 99% of the characters who seemingly get fucking killed in this series.

>>823361

I think Oda is saving it for a really big bad.

>>823374

>Strawhats reach Raftel

>they find a very elderly man there

>he is the one who are the Mizu Mizu no Mi

>he's mostly just been using it to water his garden and clean up around his house

>It's One Piece, so he's naturally old as fuck, so no one ever believed the Mizu Mizu Fruit was real because he's had it for hundreds of years.

>>823361

>lets the user turn into sea water

>they don't die but can never turn back

>puddle puddle no mi

>>823361

>>823398

> old man at Raftel

> seemingly innocent about the way he uses his Devil Fruit powers

> is actually responsible for the whole 'Devil Fruit users can't swim' thing.

>>823361

>>823363

>>823398

>>823399

>>823402

>>823528

Water does nothing to DF users in small quantities. A water-water person would not suffer any effects from his own water unless he spawned a lake all by himself or something.

Also since water made this way would be "unnatural", it should be unaffected by the ocean's curse anyways

>>823576

The DF curse has something to do with sea prism stone particles in the ocean, for the most part. Don't know if Oda ha fully clarified the nature of it in a SBS, but it could be assumed that all bodies of water in the OP world contain these particles, though maybe in far lower concentration for fresh water lakes, rivers, and drinking/bathing water

>>817030

Mayeb the World Govt isnt actually the "WORLD" government, and there are remnants of a rival power out there, somewhere.

>>823690

That's what the revolutionary army is. Why do you think they went out of their way to save Robin? Not just because she's a strawhat, but because she's an enemy of the WG because of her Poneglyph knowledge, which the Revolutionaries no doubt value in their crusade against the obvious unrightful rulers of the world.

>>823605

Doesn't it has to do with salt too? Like the Moria zombies being weakened because salt interferes with the DF powers

>>823897

>>823605

>>823576

>>823528

>>823402

>>823399

>>823374

>>823363

So, it can exist but if the user sink into salt water, he loses his power because of the high amount of sea stone. But if the user uses his power into fresh water (with less sea stone particles), he'll be able to attack; right ?

>>823918

That sounds right?

>>823936

It sounds right to me.

>>823918

But Oda said that its still water that causes DF users to sink and that its something to do with the wavelength it emits which is shared by seastone. Either way, I always disliked the still water thing since Oda implies that any body of water can make them weak so long as its still, which is silly since it should just be the sea. Even sea salt is supposed to make them weak so it should only be the sea.

>>823945

>>823918

If water has an effect on fruit users on contact, then there is only two possibilities for a water-water ability:

A) the ability deactivates itself at the moment of generation thanks to the curse, and since this would stop the water from being produced immediately, it would also stop the side-effect right there. Thus the fruit itself would do literally nothing besides making the user a hammer

B) the water produced counts as "unnatural" and artificial, and then it's free of the curse and the user can manipulate it free of consequence as long as it's his own water

>>824037

What if the fruit is a Sweaty Sweaty no Mi instead?

>>824048

Then, depending on the user, a new golden age of top tier doujin could be at hand.

>>824048

That should work as a subset of water, similarly to ice and snow.

>>824110

Its bullshit. Its a shitty Revolutionaries-centered chapter.

>>824324

>Revolutionaries-centered chapter

>shitty

>>824482

>being this ignorant

I'm guessing you haven't seen the spoilers then. 15 pages of lame jokes in the okama kingdom with some final shots revealing 3 rev commanders. One is an okama giant who won't shut about everyone loving him, the second is a mature Koala okama clone dressed like Sabo whose fruit is "encouraging" people and they all team up to beat a 50 mil wimp called Pinkbeard while. Everyone's a lame as fuck Okama except the crow guy.

>>824510

The more Oda makes revelation about the revolutionary the more I dislike them. Anyone in the same situation?

>>824544

Same. I kinda hope Luffy doesn't care about them and does whatever he wants in the end.

>>824488

>not liking world-building

>in One Piece

It's time to stop existing

>>824544

>>824549

The fact that they are gearing up to deal with some of the shit happening on the other side of the world from where the Strawhats are is a good thing. It means we get to see the WG and Tenryuubito get wrecked without it having to be something that the plot has to turn around and head back to deal with later.

>>824553

Theres a difference between world building and an overall weak chapter. Only highlight was the tengu and the giant okama who calls everyone fags, but even his power is lame since its the same as Pica or Senor Pink's fruit.

>>824570

Doing something cool doesnt make them any less dull. Karasu was the only commander of note even though his DF is as weird as Tamago's

>>824614

>someone saves the world

>its a balding autist tranny with a pikachulike sidekick

>>824589

>the same as Pica or Senor Pink's fruit.

We have no idea what his power is. You are being the same brand of retard that claims Akainu and Ace had the same power

Wow that was lackluster...

>>824646

Youre an illiterate retard. His power is a cheap copy of Pica and Pink's. Just like how Gladius's power is a knock off of Mr. 5's, or Machvise and Ms. Valentine. Hell most of the Doflamingo crew are just improved or cheaper versions of pre existing powers. Except the flag fruit which is just shit. Fitting that would be the opponent for trash like Rebecca.

>>824656

>Senor Pink: "Swims" and "Dives" through solid ground as if it were water

>Pica: Can absorb and control any kind of Stone he comes into contact with

>Morley: Can seemingly squeeze and mold solid earth like clay, which he uses to burrow through the ground. Has neither the mobility or control that Pink and Pica have

Totally the same powers, though.

>>824673

Sounds like a shittier version of both fruits.

Sounds like the lamest power of the three.

>>824678

That's just how Devil Fruits are. Then again, we don't know it's full capabilities, so maybe he can do some really cool stuff with it, like making sculptures. He is a RA commander, after all.

>>824688

Las time I watched an anime that had someone with the power of diving into things she used it to explode people from the inside.

>>824693

Was that someone 'tism'tism?

>>824712

I think most likely it's a paramecia that allows his body to turn into shadow-like matter and split and he just uses crows because aestetics. But it would be similar to Moria then.

>>824737

It'll probably just be a paramecia because that's the catch all category.

>>824819

>>824814

It's gonna be the Nesu-Nesu no Mi, a paramecia that lets you steal shit from people with ease.

>>824814

I don't think it's the tengu-fruit. It's probably a logia or a special paramecia.

>I ALREADY CLAIMED THE TENGU FRUIT FOR AN ENEMY IN WANO !!!!!!!!!!!!

That's also what I expect, someone in Kaido's crew will have the fruit.

I am pretty sure that most of the high end Zoans are member of Kaido's crew or members of CP0.

>>824814

>>824873

>BUT I DON'T WANT BECAUSE I ALREADY CLAIMED THE TENGU FRUIT FOR AN ENEMY IN WANO !!!!!!!!!!!!

Nothing is claimed faggot-kun. Its more than likely that Wano has some unique races tribes that will fill in for some of the "yokai" of Japanese lore. Like members of the Mink tribe that live in Wano are probably limited to animals that were believed to be yokai in folklore, like foxes, cats, monkeys, dogs and tanukis, and we can expect Mink immigrants there since Wano and Zou have close ties. Longnecks may also be native to Wano since those long neck yokais are usually one of the more popular ones. And finally, if Morgans is indeed a member of a unique birdman race, then its likely that Wano's native birdmen are exclusive to crows and thus will take up the role of Tengu. Strong World also showed a giant SIQ-mutated version of the sickle weasel, so its possible will see those as animals in Wano. And finally the term yokai may come as an "insulting" term for these non-human immigrants by some of the locals who have a closed border policy.

>>824889

I was aware of that but I don't give a fuck. I want a tengu fruit

>>824899

He has no fruit, the coat has one and it's a crow zoan that makes it look logia-like by just tossing transformed chunks of cloth at people

>>824955

That doesn't explain how he's able to talk through and the fact that he literally dissolved into a bunch of faggot birds.

>>824819

Oda has the talent to turn shit things into cool things and cool things into shit things. I wouldn't be surprised if the fruit is a weird shit

>>825069

how do they know its a okama?

>>825069

The Okama Kingdom is loyal to the Revolutionary Army, but that doesn't mean that all members of the RA are Okamas.

>>825635

Trannies are just revolting, I wish mangakas would stop making them into characters.

>>825948

We're gonna have a lot of fun with One Piece for the rest of the year.

>>825943

Can anyone make sense of what this bird is mumbling about?

Just caught upto the latest chapter, why are the revs suddenly attacking celestial dragons?

>>826644

They're bored and needed something plot-relevant to do.

>>826644

Because they're all gathered in one spot and think that the Revs have been defeated by Blackbeard.

One Piece is on break this week. Sage for nothing to see here.

>>827503

>>827512

>saging a thread that's already auto-saging

Come on, now...

>>827513

Oh is it? I just keep a tab open all the time and never notice.

sage for incompetence

>>827640

Fuck, Katakuri looks ugly and malformed as fuck. Like a bunch of mashed potatoes in the shape of a squatty dude with his head sticking out of his chest. Also, seeing this makes me wish that Luffy had permanently lost his tooth or had gained a new hairstyle after the timeskip. The red eyes and dark under his eyes look pretty sick, but it would be hard to do comedic faces with such a fearsome visage. Would be nice if he started to grow a beard like Sanji.

>>828434

i watched the anime to date and then switched to the manga when i got to end so i could be up to date. The anime got way to depressing towards the end as well, with how brutally slow everything was, i used to justify it by saying at least i got to see the fight scenes animated but honestly they're starting to become a little lackluster now (maybe cos Marineford spoilt me tho with Whitebeard's actions)

I have high hopes for Wano only if it means we get to see the crew reunited again after fucking forever. I don't quite see it being a Marineford 2.0 in terms of quality with it's build up, but i could be surprised

>>828317

>>828434

>Best arc: Marineford

Fucking Bleach fags. Sure the stakes were there for Marineford, but the action and flow was terrible. It's just an endless series of strikes clashing, big statements and everyone saying this is crazy. Naruto's war arc may have been a massive dragged out mess of relevant characters, but at least you saw them do something.

>>828434

>>828317

You idiots are actually serious? Oh well, I guess I shouldn't be surprised from fucking fightfags. Marineford still ranks as one of the worst arcs among many fan polls. Only ones who ever pretend its hot shit are niggerstream autists and Oda himself.

>>828475

I'm looking forward to Wano, but considering how much Oda and his editors won't stop talking about how its going to be like (or bigger than) Marineford only serves as a dire warning.

>>828434

>His post-timeskip design makes me want to rip my eyes out.

At least you have a good point there. Franky looks toyetic as fuck. He went from looking like a radical cyborg Elvis/surfer dude to the spawn of board room executives who wanted to sell more toys.

Its offical, Oda is a westaboo.

How much is Luffy going to freak out when he hears this green madman hasn't eaten in 3 years?

>>829195

It's gonna be the pie debate all over again.

>>829280

Pie debate ?

>>829357

Blackbeard and Luffy's first meeting.

I think we're at a really bad point in the series where nothing is allowed to happen. See you guys in 5 years.