/a/ - Animu & Mango

>>814098

I don't live in Japan I don't give a fuck what their government tries to block.

Let me guess, they assume that every visitor reads everything on all the sites and thats how they come up with ¥400 billion in damages.

>>814102

Well it could affect the flow of raw material if shit keeps going.

Piracy actually boosts sales.

>>814106

Sounds like some Miles Crunyroll asspull making up numbers of a non existent western market.

>>814107

>>814106

This, the western market is non-existent. The few people who buy things do so precisely because they consumed the pirated content prior.

But actually, are they talking about all of the sites or only the japanese ones?

>>814108

Chinks and Gooks. The Nips, god bless them, hate westerners too much to share in the first place.

Why now?

>>814112

and thats very rarely this is unless you REALLY like said manga series. I end up buying figures of the show though.

>>814098

No. I'm going to bleed the market dry so I never have to deal with my children becoming weebs. They'll obsess over literature and tabletop games, as they should.

>>814116

I think they're bleeding money. After the end of the Big 3 + Gintama (except One Piece), not a single big hit appeared (Shokugeki no Souma filed, Hero Academia failed, Boruto failed hard, etc etc) and now they have to compete with rogue low-quality upstarts, self-publishers and Webcomics.

People want now materials that have fast release, even at the expense of quality, and light on dialogue - the era of big names, big money is over - and they're not catching up, I don't even think they can catch up.

It's like how Youtube killed television.

The only way for them to survive is to become Gaben, to create a Steam/Spotify for Manga, but not only with their own (they already do that) but with every company's manga, old manga and new manga and dirty cheap as subscription.

>>814122

>Kids

You're not fooling anyone.

>>814124

>Not becoming highly successful, retiring early, and adopting a caucasian child to raise as your own, denying faggot couples the ability to ruin lives through adoption.

Get on my level.

>>814098

>ah hai the filthy gaijins are stealing our 2D waifus!

>>814132

US-based Companies originating from Japan use their influence to sway the vote on the repeal of Net Neutrality in order for Japan to buy out ISPs and block every Anime source except for Crunchyroll and Netflix, so they can protect their market. Then they charge exorbitant prices for their Viz and TokyoPop translations for manga.

This is also in conjunction with the fact that 8chan might become inaccessible based on your ISP.

>>814116

They've been trying to stop piracy for a while. Remember those people arrested for scanning magazines years ago. It's at the breaking point now that they have to bypass their own laws to do it since blocking websites violates their own constitution as stated here:

"Article 21 of the Constitution, which states: No censorship shall be maintained, nor shall the secrecy of any means of communication be violated.”

To go around that they are using manga and anime as an example of something to "avert present danger" as part of their Cool Japan initiative since that is a part of their culture to spread manga and anime worldwide.

Article 37 of Japan’s Penal Code:

“An act unavoidably performed to avert a present danger to the life, body, liberty

or property of oneself or any other person is not punishable only when the harm

produced by such act does not exceed the harm to be averted,”

It might all be for nothing and this is just a huff of smoke in a chimney. Who knows at this point. We've finally started getting some of the officially translated manga being released by a few people digitally here. I hope they get all the digital stuff out since there was a huge ton of stuff not converted from the print runs even when it was new and the only way to get manga.

>>814135

>tokyopop.

I feel like you've been out of the loop if you are mentioning tokyopop in current year. They went bankrupt and lost all their old licenses a while ago and came back doing OEL and disney manga for a while. It wasn't even until this year that they'd announce a return to doing manga again. I think the first of this release will be Konohana Kitan in June.

Other than Viz, there's Seven Seas Entertainment, Yen Press and Kodansha Comics are the recognizable ones off the top of my head. Tokyopop is middle-rank at this point of relevance. Although, if they are doing manga again, I kind of wished they rerelease old stuff they did by getting the old licenses to do official digital releases this time. They wouldn't even have to work that hard since they could use the old translations and do a once over to update it a little. Not sure of the translation accuracy since I haven't even read much tokyopop, even when they were in their prime but it can't be worse than seeing the word bazinga in Mahora Little Girls.

>>814098

>¥400 billion =3.728 billion U.S. dollars

This can't be real...

>>814168

> Is it true the nipponese populace has exceedingly poor basic computing skills?

The general populace has bad computing skills, but otaku usually are good with tech.

>>814123

>I think they're bleeding money.

That's wrong, the Japanese manga industry is stable.

Digital manga sales surpassed physical sales in 2017, and Oricon only tracks the physical sales.

This makes it look like as if manga sell much worse than years ago, but in reality the sales numbers are stable.

> new manga and dirty cheap as subscription.

Most web manga don't even require a subscription.

The usual business model is first 3 and last 3 chapters are free, the rest needs to be purchased.

You can right now go to Jump+ and read the lastest chapters of their manga for free.

None of the web manga sites that I checked blocked foreign visitors, it really is an encouragement to learn Japanese.

>>814204

>but otaku usually are good with tech.

Good as us or good in the Japanese level?

>>814204

They need to stop being magazine-specific, and content-specific.

They need a platform containing manga from every magazine, independents and old manga as well, not only the ongoing.

And it needs to be universal subscription, not purcharse-this-chapter or purcharse-this-manga, because you need to sustain the less popular manga.

>>814210

What would you pay monthly for this service?

>>814210

That wouldn't work at all.

The manga industry is extremly profitable, and profits from people who spend large ammounts on manga.

Creating a subscription based business model would only damage profits.

At 500 yen per month such a service would need more than 30 million subscriptions to make as much as the current digital manga market, this isn't even counting the loss in physical sales this would generate.

>And it needs to be universal subscription, not purcharse-this-chapter or purcharse-this-manga, because you need to sustain the less popular manga.

This wouldn't sustain small manga, it would outright kill any unpopular manga.

A large subscription service always relies on their most popular titles, unpopular titles will be culled so that authors have a chance to create a popular title.

Payment would likely be even more skewed to the big names, and there would be no competetion, because there's 1 site publishing all the manga.

It's an outright terrible idea, it would stiffle creativty and essentially just create a gigantic version of Shounen Jump.

>like series

>want to support the series

>go online to try and find merch for it to buy, just something small because I can't own much in the way of possessions

>look for movie tickets or info about the new movie supposedly coming to cinemas this month

>all the merch sucks

>can't even find a good site to buy it from in the first place

>can't find any info about the movie, can't purchase tickets or even see where it will be shown and when it will come out

They give me no feasible way to give them my money, but bitch about piracy.

In the first place, if the industry wants money they should: make products people want to buy, that are easy to purchase, and a safe and convenient site to purchase them from, and extend the market to international fans. But they don't. They're trying as hard as possible to not make money. I know japanese business practices are still trapped in the 80s but for fuck's sake just hire an american marketing team. Or like, open an online donation box so I can drop the creators some cash directly to show my appreciation. Send me a cute wallpaper or something in exchange. There are a thousand ways to go about this but being a massive bitch is the route they choose.

>>814123

And much of it needs a ste change anyways to be readable. Most manga is too cluttered up amd too zoomed in to have a clear idea of what is going on. None of the biggest successes have it as a regular problem.

>>814227

This is not about you and the seinen manga you read, it's about the multimillion dollar Shonen Jump titles and domestic pirates and nothing else really.

>>814168

I dont think so? Japan is actually moving to using IPV6 right now.

>>814227

>hire an american marketing team.

You know this will end badly right?

>>814098

>they're assuming that every view = someone who would have bought the cartoon/mango

>someone who watched 25 episodes of a cartoon would have bought it 25 times

>>814135

>>814132

The end result is that anime stops collectively being watched, as the soulless genre of the season anime only comes out because some niche market showed interest in that particular genre, so we get to the same point as with Western animation, where the last two or three fads that were popular when things got real bad gets repeated ad nauseam and the only new original IPs are either Adult Swim tier juvenile shock humor or reference-a-tons.

>>814226

>It's an outright terrible idea

It's a marvellous idea, consumer-wise. Look at Steam, Netflix and Spotify.

But it's a terrible idea content creator-wise, for sure, because you would be squeezing them dry.

But if you don't do that, you have piracy.

So? Is it worth having piracy or that? It doesn't even need to be 500 yen, maybe 1000 yen is good enough.

>>814294

> Look at Steam, Netflix and Spotify

They're all horrible for consumers though.

>>814294

>It's a marvellous idea, consumer-wise. Look at Steam, Netflix and Spotify.

Apples and oranges.

Steam is just a distribution platform, they aren't directly involved in most of the things they publish.

They directly sell software.

Netflix on the other hand is directly investing or owning many series they stream.

They don't directly sell series, but instead you pay for a subscription.

A model for the manga industry like >>814210 describes would only be possible, if all the big publishers start to work together.

This would be even more extreme than Netflix, to get your manga published and become popular you as a creator would need to have approval from the big content distributer.

A monopoly would exist, and this would be bad for creators and consumers.

As a creator, you would be forced to follow trends more closely, and perhaps certain topics are outright tabo since "megapublisher X" doesn't want to damage their image. You essentially won't have a choice in picking your publisher or magazine, because everyone uses the new big service.

For a consumer it would lower the ability to directly support authors you like. It's not clear how the service judges your consumption habits.

An example would be Yuki reads OP, BnHA and a niche fantasy manga. He really loves the fantasy manga. The publisher thinks that they would retain Yuki's subscription even if they cancel the niche fantasy manga.

In many cases they would be right, but it would still make manga as a medium less varied and screw over consumers who like niche manga.

> maybe 1000 yen is good enough.

It would still require around 15 million subscribers to make the ammount of money the digital manga industry does in Japan.

A subscription model, especially for something like manga would also hit it's growth limit relatively fast compared to a traditional distribution model.

I myself strongly prefer the current model, you can read the newest and the first chapters for free, but if you want catch up or reread a series you need to buy it.

>>814370

>Now recalculate those figures and tell me that western pirates reading obscure series on one of a few dozen manga aggregator sites is costing Japan 400 billion moondollars

Did you even read the article? This is about Japanese pirate sites, it has nothing to do with Westerners.

>>814123

>Hero Academia

It fucking deserved to fail, it became such a boring piece of shit.

>>814370

>Removing all those things

But that would be admitting that piracy is not the end of the world, and that just maybe one can only make so much money from a given market.

>>814322

>his would be even more extreme than Netflix, to get your manga published and become popular you as a creator would need to have approval from the big content distributer.

Actually, no, nothing would change.

You either self-publish or go to a big name, get an editor and submit to them.

>>814168

I heard that nowadays some young Japanese teens don't even know how to type Japanese onto computer via a physical keyboard. All they know is how to type in their phones.

>>814098

Do they really think people are going to shell out money on a book that they might hate? The only manga and anime I buy are the ones I really like and that's after I read them or watched them for free elsewhere. There's no way in hell, I would pay out for something that might go to shit (Gantz, Bleach, Naruto) or not even have an ending (Berserk). The same shit goes for western comics. Most of it is beyond awful, but there are quality comics that I'll shell out for (Gwenpool, ect).

>>814204

>You can right now go to Jump+ and read the lastest chapters of their manga for free.

That is awesome and how I read Super.

>>814370

>mediocre author's arm to get them to extend their dying series with an obnoxiously elaborate war arc, like they did to Naruto

Bleach really should have ended with Aizen. Naruto should have just ended with Pain. Everything after that was complete shit. I'm not saying they were quality before those points as Bleach had troll Aizen to deal with, but they were still entertaining to read.

>>814098

https://toyokeizai.net/articles/-/216729?page=3 http://archive.is/oFJFX

Seems like they're just blocking by DNS?

http://tech.nikkeibp.co.jp/atcl/nxt/column/18/00157/041500005/ http://archive.is/Rq27o

Some believe they overestimated the damage count by saying things like 160 Million Japanese people visited mangamura when there are only about 100 million people in Japan

http://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/nl/spv/1804/14/news039.html http://archive.is/le1zw

https://enquete.nicovideo.jp/result/127 https://web.archive.org/web/20180414033044/https://enquete.nicovideo.jp/result/127

Online questionnaire done by Kadokawa-Dwango on Niconico (note the conflict of interest here) shows about 50% respondent support blocking these sites via emergency measures

http://www.itmedia.co.jp/news/spv/1804/13/news069.html http://archive.is/AhuBd

https://www.huffingtonpost.jp/2018/04/11/internet-censored_a_23408329/ http://archive.is/GXro1

Numerous groups and individuals have expressed their oppositions against the measure, concern about abuse and future potential abuse of "emergency", violation of protection on secret communication and thus unconstitutional, and such. They have also pointed out that it might be possible for this to be abused and extend to other aspect in the future, and also pointed out that when they did the same against child porn it took them 2 years before they actually started blocking them and wonder if it's really this urgent to block piracy sites

http://www.itmedia.co.jp/news/spv/1804/13/news124.html http://archive.is/UoMSK

And of course publishers welcome the move

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jp/takumiharimaya/mangamura-anitube?utm_term=.cazEl1WKW4#.umvb504R4N http://archive.is/RphEi

Government say the measure will be limited to the three sites and sites that are deemed as the same

>>814116

Mangamura have been going publicly against authority and copyright enforcers in recent months so it make sense for JP government want to do something against them

>>814372

Most of the second half of my post still applies. Companies like Jump are keeping manga going on the large scale while killing it with countless papercuts. Readership and sales are down. They're still absurdly high compared to western comics, but there is a crisis looming for the biggest publishers. The little guys will thrive, because they can afford to, but the big guys have fucked themselves and trying to fight piracy in order to fix the problem of not getting all the money they think they deserve will not actually solve that looming crisis.

>>814453

>Bleach really should have ended with Aizen. Naruto should have just ended with Pain.

Agreed on both points and the following ones. Jump's history is sadly littered with shitty editors forcing dumb ideas on authors who got tired and ran out of ideas, but were forced to keep going and forced to up the ante further and further until you have retarded shit like googly eyed german archers who don't use bows killing God and destroying the afterlife, or ninja wars that consist of the entire world against an army of zombies... And at the time, the editors thought this was a good idea. They thought they'd set up a way to ensure happy readers and profits for the company. It's not always a bad thing that lazy authors have their desire to give up nixed by their employer, but it more often than not leads to a dip in quality that repulses readers.

>>814455

Homesteading requires too much daily work to fit into the schedule of the average mangaka. Drawing manga on a regular weekly schedule is a more than full-time job. The patreon model would allow artists to live and produce work without the weekly schedule, but it wouldn't guarantee quality from most. It also wouldn't mean that they wouldn't fall prey to the problems that all patreons have: Giving people money before they do the work you are paying them for. They are incentivized to take longer to ensure they get more money for less output. Additionally, without the help of big publishers, getting a work produced into a published format becomes a little trickier, especially on the scale of something professional, and it limits their options for merch, anime adaptations, vidya, and other media.

>>814370

They said the three specified site are 80%-98% used by Japanese people

>>814372

>This is about Japanese pirate sites, it has nothing to do with Westerners

It will when they realize Nyaa exists.

>>814493

But nyaa doesn't exist anymore.

>>814509

Are you joking? I'm dense.

>>814227

>They give me no feasible way to give them my money, but bitch about piracy.

I wish studios had the good sense to just put "donation" GUI's on their websites. Wouldn't it be nice if you could just use paypal to give Kyoani 10 bucks in a few minutes without having to buy some stupid garbage or spend hours hassling around online?

>>814539

>This is because most people who pirate are people who have no means of buying the thing they want in the first place, yet by pirating it they can still help sell it to others in a small way by just being an informed voice in the community.

I like freebies to be honest. But I also like telling other people to get into the series and word of mouth is the best publicity there is, plus plenty of people buy official merch or localized versions of the title to support the industry, much more than the people who just piggyback on the free ride.

>>814554

>giving money to Kyoani of all studios

Just the first example that came to mind of a studio that actually tries to write meaningful anime

>>814539

How do mainstreamers even watch things without crunchypleb or goyflix?

>HS ditf 1 has 30k dls on nia

>>814557

What do I know. I only started watching seasonal stuff and giving a crap about studios a year ago. VEG was fine.

>>814539

The panic over piracy is some high level judaic screaching. It's exactly as you say, people who pirate won't/can't purchase anyway, but always end up telling others how good or bad the media is. The other person then decides if they want to get it (and I'd wager 90% of the time they just buy it). If this process sounds familiar, it's because it is. It's exactly how companies sell their garbage games and other media on Youtube/twitch. Piracy just bypasses the studio's sponsorship and gives a more direct review. And that's a review where you can blatantly see the personal bias and see if that bias aligns with your own, which is something you can't say for shillmerchants on jewtube who are reading from a script or recieved pointers from the company.

>>814539

It wouldn't create a monopoly and things would stay exactly the same as they are today.

>>814569

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWLjYJ4BzvI

>>814571

>This is extremerri dangerous to our anime

Side note: is it true that the yakuza is involved in anime? There was a thread up recently on /v/ about a nip game that ended up crashing the studio with no survivors well, except for everyone but one guy. The director ended up disappearing, never to be found and it was suspected to be yakuza involvement.

>>814559

Illegal online streaming site if not legal service. Not like they would buy BD anyway.

Oh and a Chinese legal streaming platform have once responded in a Q&A session saying that torrenting traffic is so low that they don't really care when fighting piracy (30k is nothing compares to up to multimillion view per show) and they concern about illegal streaming site more

And I think the ability for legal streaming site to attract people compares to illegal site is really simply a user experience problem, legal site already gained an edge in exposure and name value of being a right holder, if they still can't attract people using their service then it's clearly their own problem

Should sharing of data be illegal or blocked? No

>>814191

> They went bankrupt and lost all their old licenses a while ago

Is this why I never got the last 2 volumes of Steel Angel Kurumi translated? I have the japanese ones but can't read it so I'm stuck trying to look up Kanji by radical and crying myself to sleep whenever I try to translate it myself

>>814826

>implying that changes anything

I don't see a problem with citizens having access to nukes.

>>814880

There's a lot of series that I've read and thought

<I'm so glad I didn't pay for this shit

But plenty more where I've thought

>would be really fucking nice if I could buy this and support the author

>>814557

>>814554

I would give a lot of my sheckles to Golden Age KyoAni, no question, but it's way past their Golden Age.

If only Yamakan were here.

>>814235

Japan is a very well developed country, and you're talking about infrastructure. That doesn't speak anything of the average nip's computer know-how.

>>814233

Or in case you're canadian hoping you don't go to jail for purchasing drawings.

>>814600

This is a very good observation. There's the hiccup of pay-to-watch still being a problem, but that's a trivial loss given that the large majority of views will be received by currently airing episodes..Crunchyroll really has the good strategy. Adblock shouldn't even be a problem. I know some sites can bar access while adblock is on; most viewers are not tech savvy enough to get around such a measure; and most anime fans would not be difficult to cajole into turning their adblock off to support the studios. Maybe the essential problem at the heart of all of this is the creatively stifling industry and economic conditions which are not producing content of the same quality as in the past.

>>814191

I will never forgive tokyopoop for what they did to the first volume of Kino no Tabi.

>>814107

>Piracy actually boosts sales.

How?

>>815214

It's the whole "Try before you buy." methodology. I grabbed the 5e pdfs online, and my group of friends has basically purchased every book between them because of the campaign I started. Same went for Star Wars and Savage Worlds, or any other long-term campaign we've run, and only one other player was actually into tabletop before that.

>>815215

5e pdfs?

>>815218

Ah, sorry, thought I was in /tg/ for a moment. D&D 5e, but don't tell anyone from /tg/ that I actually brought up Fifth Edition. It's like bringing up Boruto or some normalfag anime on here.

>>815214

>>815215

That's not quite the whole story, since trying before buying can very well diminish sales, by having people find out the product is trash without already having been forced to pay for it. That's the part that's good for the consumer.

But even if you don't end up buying it, simply being able to recommend what you pirate it to to others so they can discover it, or in the case of /a/ related content, buying merchandise even if you don't buy the actual manga/anime helps the creators get more money in the long term.

The only people who fear piracy are the jews who want to keep consumers ignorant and deprived of choice, so they can be conned more easily.

>>815219

I'm gonna tell

>>815219

It's much worse than that and you damn well know it, you failure of a grognard.

>>815335

Not... Really? 5E is the most milquetoast of D&D editions, especially if you're going by core only. It gains a lot of anger because its popular, but all of its good points are taken from TSR D&D, and watered-down 3.5.

HOWEVER, all of this is overshadowed by the fact that it's the most popular RPG on the market, meaning you can throw your hat in any direction and find players for it, AND the absolute ridiculous amount of Peer-review homebrew that has maintained a surprising level of quality. There's two separate overhauls for the game just to run Hard Sci-Fi, and one for Capeshiy, and they're not too skimpy either. You'd just be hard-pressed to find anyone on /tg/ who would actually acknowledge the homebrew community as a good point of 5e, because of the bad taste still in everyone's mouth from 3.5, and the fact that it's primarily Reddit-based.

>>815478

How else are we supposed to get an Elf Slave?

>>815720

>Nyaa went down

Yeah, I just found out. Let's hope it's only temporarily, as it's usually the case.

>>815762

Haven't confirm it myself but I heard some claims this alternative site have mining script?

>>816141

No, and learn to speak English.

On Yahoo Japan there's an internet poll asking whether netizens agree with blocking piracy sites, of about 11k responses, 66% agree with the measure and 26% opposed it.

>>816158

Unsurprisingly.

>>815817

>watching anything but raws

>>816154

何の為に？

>>817057

>watching instead of reading the source material

Joke's on you, failed purist faggot.

>>817069

why_not_both.jpg

The largest Japanese mobile and fixed internet provider NTT Group announced that they are going to follow government's recommendation on site blocking

Actually, with the way they are blocking the sites via DNS server, most of the legal concern about the matter in Japan can be dismissed. As ISPs are simply changing the way DNS server give out respond instead of monitoring and ceasing connection to pirate site. Of course things like DNS over HTTPS and ability to change DNS in mobile carriers could render the measure less effective, but to most computer illiterate people like those who don't know how to answer a landline phone call or those who don't know how to type Japanese via a keyboard instead of smartphone screen, that's probably enough

>>814464

Have you read the interviews though? Turns out Bleach wasn't being that artificially extended and neither was Naruto. Both were exactly where the author wanted them to go. The problem was that they ran out of good ideas and started coming up with stupid ones but the editors were too afraid to correct their most successful authors.

I hope the industry collapses and not another moe anime is released.

>>817473

Pretty much if you know about DNS like OpenNIC you're in the clear.

When I heard about this the first thing that came to mind was that they would enforce it through DNS and it turns out I was right.

>>814265

Literally nothing changed over here

I was waiting for all the sites to go down, but because they aren't hosted here they cant do anything about them.

>>816246

>European Empire owns Madagascar but not Northern Africa

>Kuril Islands and Sakhalin aren't Jap clay

>New Zealand and Australia just do their own thing

>That random Sri Lanka given to Europeans

This map gets me every time

>>823861

The government might as well not even try then. This will only catch the lowest level people. Rather they are trying just for votes and media approval.

>>814835

Have you tried jisho? They have a draw feature. It's not the best.

>>814548

Even the fucking homeless don't beg in Japan. I doubt you'll ever see a donate button.

>>823879

Google translate has the best handwriting recognition out there as far as I know, even if it's trash at actually translating. It's useful to keep it around to draw kanji and then paste them into something else to look them up.

>>814191

>breaking your constitution

This is a good time to point out that Japs are still under an occupying force and don't have rights.

>>823874

Those "lowest level people" are where these pirate sites capitalize from to support their operation thou. I read an interview on an advertisement agency that have connection with these sites, they said they pay 13 million yen advertisement revenue to one of those named site every months before the incident occur

And it is not just action.from the government itself but also the awareness. I heard that "Anonymous" hackers in Japan helped attacking and taking down the site when mangamura was tentatively revived. (That is, in Japan, even Anonymous hackers are pro-copyright, if the news is legit) And the incident have also forced all three sites to stop providing their service even if you are accessing from points not affected by ISP ban, most likely because advertisement company have stopped paying for the ads shown on those sites. (Although it might also have something to do with Japanese government pressing for legal charge against website operators in Brazil and China)

>>814198

It is the good old method of "See, our comic have been read a million times on the site and each comic copies worth 700 Yen, so we lost 700 Million yen on the comic thanks to the site!" method. Then they probably used BD price for anime episode.

I have previous read someone counting that they might have deduce the amount of visitor for each site from something like Alexa ranking

>>829433

I can't seem to access the site, so it could be down. You could try to see if they have any news on their irc channel.

>>829433

>>829439

I can't DNS resolve, anybody know what the IP is supposed to be?

>>829433

>>829439

Admin probably just forgot to pay the bills, again.

Or the hdds are dying, again.

>>829446

195.154.146.172

Works on my machine™.

>>814132

Netflix animus take over and we go straight to hell by the 2020 Olympics at which point lolis and lewdness will die and animu will become even worse to the point where there won't even be nipples on blue rays and jap 3DPD porn will get even more censored.

>>829529

I choose to believe the theory that 2020 will be just a temporary setback and we'll be back to business as usual soon after. The otakus will not die overnight.

>>829433

https://manga.madokami.eu/

><qqueue> oh, update for the channel: >Old domain has issues with the registrar, hopefully it'll be fixed whenever they actually respond to the ticket, until then there is an alternate domain that should work fine.

https://news.biglobe.ne.jp/entertainment/0608/blnews_180608_8107569620.html

Report claims mangaka income increased by upto five fold after banning Mangamura

>>832800

Can't another site pop up that offers a similar service to Mangamura? Also I'm a bit suspicious about how they are getting those numbers for profits increasing after the closure.

>>832800

That's utter bullshit, used to argue for stricter regulations.

A bunch of no name authors claiming increases in their revenue is highly suspicious, all of their series sell so badly that it's impossible to verify their claimes.

Furthermore correlation doesn't equal causation, increased revenue after a pirate site went down doesn't mean the revenue increased because the pirate site went down. I am pretty sure you can find authors whose sales dropped sharply in the same time period.

>>832858

Not if it is hosted in the same country.

Now the authorities have a precedent, and if they want to ban a site that offers similar services they know just what to do.

>>832800

A good rule of thumb for judging the trustworthiness of such reports is to ask yourself whether they would have published (or been allowed to publish) the opposite result, and whether they would suffer any penalty for doing so.

In this case there's almost certainly a very strong pro-copyright bias and a lot of cherry-picking of data going on.

>>832858

The best option would probably be to switch to a decentralized hosting model. As >>828378 points out, the weakest part of most websites is the server costs. Allowing tech-savvy users to bypass crude censorship tools such as DNS blacklisting is trivial in comparison.

Exhentai's hentai-at-home software is a good example of how decentralization can work.

I've already given them my pound of flesh.

In my buyfag period 20 years ago I spent around 10K on anime and manga.

They can get fucked, I'm not buying anymore

>>832863

If I was a newer author I would prefer that more people read my work, even if it was for free on a pirate site. That way through word-of-mouth they could advertise it and even a few more sales out of it. This seems counter-intuitive since if the pirates didn't want to pay before, they probably aren't going to now.

>>815214

Especially in the case of manga/anime in the western market it increases sales.

Most weebs start out as kids with no money or otherwise just aren't willing to spend money on a kind of media they haven't experienced before, start consuming the media, find out they like it, and later on buy games/merch/books/blurays.

Of course, you also have the weebs that never buy the books or blurays because the official translation is inevitably shit and "localized" because westerners are too dumb and too prudish to accept that kind of content and are incapable of understanding other cultures or being fine with sex ever, but they often will still buy the related goods even if they never actually buy the anime/manga.

Even if they don't spend any money on any of it and only pirate for life, they can still recommend shit to other people who spend money on it. Even if they don't even do that, who fucking cares, the western market for this stuff is small as shit so it's basically irrelevant anyway.

>>829529

At most, everything lewd will get hidden away and go underground for the time being, give or take a few months. Any of that other shit happens and otaku will riot like there’s no tomorrow- look at all the crap they’ve pulled when it comes to the idol industry.