Finally watched this, absolutely loved it. Shameless shill, as well as discussion/feels thread for anyone interested.

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Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 08:05:34 No.807566

Finally watched this, absolutely loved it.

Shameless shill, as well as discussion/feels thread for anyone interested.

Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 09:25:04 No.807577

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Convince me to check it out, OP. What do you like about it?

Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 10:25:34 No.807589

>>807577

>never seen this

A good reason would be to lower your pleb level.

Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 11:35:15 No.807610

I've been 11 episodes into this for at least a year or two now. I really want to finish it but I can't immerse myself in the world for some reason. It's just not clicking with me and I'm usually gay for this kind of stuff.

Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 13:43:22 No.807636

>>807610

The first and last episodes are Texhnolzye's strong points; it's where the series' themes really hit their highs and characters are fully consumed by their ethos. The whole gang subplot is a bit of a slog to get through, but it's well worth it.

Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 16:53:28 No.807691

I think the biggest part of why I love Texhnolyze is just how depressing but human it's story is. It's hard to feel bad for Yoshii once we get to see the City for what it is, a desolate hell were everyone has given up. Seeing Doc want to evolve and improve humans with her texhnolyze and to have her dream disregarded utterly was heartbreaking.

Ran tried to help, and her being a guide to Onishi and Ichise made me sympathize with her.

Two scenes I love were the movie theatre reveal, and Ichise fighting the mob at the end. The call back to the first episode fight in that scene were powerful.

Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 18:37:03 No.807737

I don't know where to fucking watch it

Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 18:39:28 No.807740

>>807737

>being this much of a pleb

Go to nyaa and type in the name in this magical thing we call a searchbar.

Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 19:03:32 No.807752

>>807566

I misread that as Texan Lies

Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 22:00:47 No.807823

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>>807577

It's an incredibly well crafted cyberpunk story that while having the standard dark and violent aspects, also has deep psychological questions and themes, the kind you almost never see. Almost all of the characters are well written and feel very real. No one in the story is a good person, most exemplify the worst qualities you can have, but all have reasons as to why they act that way.

It was done by the same guy who did Serial Experiments Lain and Ergo Proxy so it can get very arthouse at times, there are a lot of unconventional shots and sequences but along with the perfectly done soundtrack and beautiful art it sets itself apart in a good way from nearly every other anime I have seen.

It does have some weaknesess, mainly what >>807636 said about the middle part, it can also be difficult to follow at times. However the last 4 episodes more than make up for it, they are some of the best I have ever seen and both the ideas and feels from them have been constantly on my mind for several days.

>>807691

Yeah, I really liked Doc, the events of her story made me very sad. I also liked Yoshii from the start, even more so after his actions began to make sense.

The theatre scenes were great, as were most of the ones with the Class and Kano but I wish we had seen more of them, the decadence, perversion, and cult-like aspects that you saw a bit of was fascinating. One thing I didn't get though was at the end when Shinji kills the group of Class in the watery pool and says that that was the Raffia, was that how texhnolyzed limbs were bonded/controlled? Did it link up with the Obelisk somehow? I'm still confused on why everything stopped working at the end.

Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 22:13:18 No.807828

>>807823

>and Ergo Proxy.

Incorrect. Abe did Lain, Haibane Renmei and Niea_7.

Texhnolyze has something to do with the needing the obelisk for energy. It's why Ichise needed to run on a battery pack. The Raffia is part of a black magic phase that bonds the limbs to a user. I still don't know entirely why Shinji killed all those guys and what all it meant.

Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 23:31:58 No.807884

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>>807823

>Almost all of the characters are well written and feel very real

I personally didn't really feel the relationship between Ichise and Keigo. Keigo himself didn't really leave much of an impression on me.

>I also liked Yoshii from the start, even more so after his actions began to make sense.

As far as I understand it, had Yoshii succeeded, humanity may still have had a chance.

He knows about the Theonormals being an evolutionary dead-end and the surface world having grinded to a halt; knows about the mining of raffia (and as such, the whole existence of the subterran world) being a pointless formality; and probably knows about the Class aspiring to be like the Theonormals.

With his actions, he would've united the people of Lux for the goal of overthrowing the Class. If they actually managed to do that, the surface world would been up for grabs. The Theonormals aren't gonna offer any resistance, are they?

And it may have all worked out if Yoshii didn't completely fail to communicate anything to shithead Shinji. Then, him getting killed by Ichise was the final nail in the coffin. Perhaps that event was part of Ran's prophecy. At least half of it, the other half being the killing of Kano (?).

Hope I got that right so far.

However, I'm still not sure what Yoshii actually is. Is he a Theonormal, like the other surface dwellers? If so, why was he bound to his body. Are Theonormals only free to jump bodies/exist in ethereal form on the surface and turn into regular mortals when they're subterran? Or is it because of Yoshii's affliction? Then what about his friend, the train guy. Are the two perhaps not Theonormals, but regular humans who were working on the surface for some reason?

>>807828

>I still don't know entirely why Shinji killed all those guys

Because they oppressed the citizens of lux, waged a genocidal war on them and fuck them?

Anonymous 03/26/18 (Mon) 01:06:59 No.807926

>>807566

I really like how the main characters represented a pillar of humanities ideals which all slowly crush. The endings anti-nihilism ending also made me depressed for a few weeks when I saw it the first time.

>>807828

>I still don't know entirely why Shinji killed all those guys and what all it meant.

He wanted to be apart of them to continue his existence through raffia him killing them is him accepting it was a pipe dream.

Anonymous 03/26/18 (Mon) 14:00:39 No.808085

Can anybody help me change the things that I see?

Anonymous 03/26/18 (Mon) 15:22:00 No.808097

>>807566

I liked Lain a lot.

Ergo Proxy meandered way too much, pacing too similar to FLCL and so i dropped it pretty quick.

Convince me then OP.

Anonymous 03/26/18 (Mon) 21:44:57 No.808192

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>>807884

Yeah, that seems correct. I don't think he had any intentions of making people go to the surface, but he wanted to "reignite" the human spirit so to speak, the people of Lux at the time of the show were very downtrodden and hopeless mainly due to getting screwed over by the Organo. Presumably by starting a war and causing a shift of power he could make Lux a better place. and it is said that Gabe used to control Lux before the Organo seized control, and that it was much better.

Its never said if he wants to overthrow the Class, however he does try to assassinate one of them which suggests he did, and Kano's plans would have most likely failed of Yoshii had succeeded.

Onishi was also a target for him because he was trying to keep the peace between the Salvation Army and the Organo. He valued order above all else, which directly conflicted with his plans.

Its not really clear if the **Teonormals are actually ghosts, or that was just a stylistic choice. The one who speaks to them says that there "are no real humans left on the surface", however his actual body appears before Ichise returns, and he says that Lux was made to isolate people with aggressive/undesirable behaviors so that the human race can evolve, but it failed.

I think this means more that the people on the surface have lost what makes them human, their ambition and emotion, but there is still so much left up for interpretation, I do have some more abstract theories though if you're interested.**

>>808097

After >>807828 pointed that out, I want and re watched a bit of Ergo, its nothing like Texhnolyze and I had remembered it a lot differently. So don't think its like that, Ergo is a pretty standard cyberpunk story. I did write about it at >>807823, but I can go into more detail if you would like.

Anonymous 03/26/18 (Mon) 21:47:06 No.808193

>>808192

Fug I messed up the spoiler, sorry.

Anonymous 03/30/18 (Fri) 11:54:38 No.809317

>>807636

I think I'll give it another shot from scratch pretty soon if I have the time.

Anonymous 03/30/18 (Fri) 22:12:39 No.809443

>>808192

>I think this means more that the people on the surface have lost what makes them human, their ambition and emotion

This is right. Theonormals aren't actually disembodied, they just might as well be. Most stuff in the series is pretty fucking abstract and references a bunch of different shit, a lot of which is based in philosophy and its criticisms.

Lux represents the standard notion of the base human condition. Ran represents contemplative thought and Ichise represents unthinking instinct (this is important later). The three main factions represent the Kierkegaardian trichotomy between the aesthetic (Racan, derived from Lacan), the ethical (Organo, derived from Organon), and the religious (the Salvation Union, no obvious term comes to mind). I think the Gabe are supposed to represent more primitive thought and tradition, but I'm not entirely sure. All of these are shown to be basically incompetent at establishing order and ultimately doing anything productive.

Yoshii descends from the surface to Lux in a manner thematically similar to a descent into hell, but already knows that he prefers the chaos of Lux to the peace of the surface. He probably had intended, generally, to protect Lux against Kano's ambitions, but had no specific plan until setting the factions against each other in hopes that one would consolidate enough power to defend themselves against the Class, but this was unsuccessful. He was essentially a failed dark messiah.The Class itself is probably based upon the guardians of Plato's Republic. The Shapes are obvious references to the platonic forms, being eternal and unchanging. The surface world demonstrates the result of repression of undesirable people and emotions. It is stagnant and dying; boredom alone motivates Yoshii to abandon its comforts for Lux. The theonormals have generally reached the conclusion that there is no point to living or dying without struggle, and so have decided to stop struggling to exist.

In Lux, things are not so bright; but because of Ran, people still generally have hope that things are capable of improving. This changes when Kano and his Shapes offer people an alternative, first by choice, and then by force, to assimilate into his new vision of an evolved humanity or to die. Kano is a solipsist, willing to do anything to fulfill his vision, and ultimately succeeds in taking over Lux. Everything he says to Ichise is right; Lux is as much a part of him as he is a part of Lux. Ichise kills Kano, and then dies happily, realizing that all he's ever done is destroy things to live, and that by dying he can finally rest. This is reflected in the ending song, as well. Whose perspective, if any, is correct is up to the viewer's interpretation, but Yoshii is objectively the best girl.

Anonymous 04/14/18 (Sat) 05:49:26 No.814025

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I just watched this out of curiosity since I always saw it mentioned in /a/ every now and then. It was rather tedious the first few episodes, but it really fucking picked up the pace after half of the show. The final episodes were really damn stellar through and through, the setting kept becoming more horrifying the more that was shown about it. The ending fucked me up real bad, yet I'm glad I gave this a chance. I may need to rewatch it again to appreciate it more, perhaps in another date.

I still don't get why the Organo cut off Ichise's limbs and why he didn't seem to have a grudge with Onishi after all the shit he went through during the first few episodes. Given how impulsive he is, I always thought he would be out for his blood through at least the first half.

Anonymous 04/14/18 (Sat) 09:56:58 No.814061

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>>808192

>>807884

Anonymous 04/14/18 (Sat) 12:02:57 No.814074

>>814061

Holy hell, where is this from? I want to buy it.

Anonymous 04/14/18 (Sat) 12:51:12 No.814077

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

So far it's really slow for my tastes but I want to see what it develops into. The OP is pretty sick too.

Anonymous 04/15/18 (Sun) 20:34:47 No.814811

>>814025

It was the bitch hit to the Organo guys' girlfriend in the first episode. Shit was petty as fuck.

Anonymous 04/16/18 (Mon) 17:14:20 No.815066

>>814077

>if you need anything, come to me - I'll be your guardian angel

I know this is /a/ but these lines come from an old US flick called The Swimmer, I was prompted to watch it only because they put those lines in the beginning of Texhnolyze and it turned out to be really great. give it a download and avoid spoilers.

Anonymous 04/16/18 (Mon) 23:37:55 No.815173

>>807610

I'm surprised you didn't after episode 6 after Yoshii starts his escapades.

I'd say get to the point when Everyone become Shapes and if it's not interesting by then it's probably not for you.

>>814025

Personally I find each quarter of the show to have a very different feel around it to show Ichise's physical fall from grace, his mental resilience towards the society, his desire for understanding and then finally his acceptance of reality. So for each part it felt almost different yet the same and I really liked how thematically different each section of the show was and it fit together so goddamn well.

Also the beginning of the show happened because the one's who had him mutilated were simply lackey's to Onishi who had their own authority that Onishi couldn't interfere with especially given the fact that Ichise did what he did to the one subordinate's girlfriend.

Anonymous 04/17/18 (Tue) 04:19:38 No.815283

>>814811

the cunt deserved it. If you've got a muscle fetish then you've got not business sticking your fingernails in someone's eyes.