/a/ - Animu & Mango

This is proceeding so conveniently for Theo that I forgot this wasn't isekai.

>>777160

The vagina bones in OP's second pic made me consider getting this, but thanks to you I now know better.

>>777160

You're joking right?

>>777120

From the same creator of Lodoss tou Senki

>>777141

So far he's just lucky he ran into two other travelers who wanted to join forces with him, seemingly permanently. It's basically like the oath of the peach garden. He's also not a complete wimp so far, so I like him more than the average MC.

>>777165

Remember: ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

>>777165

The rainbow flag is very suspicious and out of place.

>>777224

Yeah. That looked so weird when it first pops up. They say she's a rainbow mage but I think it's for another reason. Something about pride if you catch my drift. Show seems generic overall. Theo looks like he's already being whipped by Siluca and the war seems like it'll be who has the biggest p-crest at the end of it.

>>777230

The manga screams generic so far.

Currently worst first episode this season.

Generic, and everything is going too smoothly for Theo.

>>777224

>>777230

Don't forget about the girl offering herself to the brown soldiers.

>>777381

She hid her wand behind her back it's obviously a seduction ploy to lower their guard. The flag remains out of place and really out there when it shows up. Unless every other mage shows up with striped bars to indicate mastery I'm going to assume she's a lesbian.

>>777498

>Lesbian

She's not, she has a crush on Theo.

Remember when the Rainbow used to be a Nordic symbol of magic and had nothing to do with homosexuality?

>>777381

That's just her deceiving men with her female assets.

>>777120

The opening scene showed some kind of cool worldbuilding. But the last 15 minutes or whatever was extremely meh.

>>777536

I also remember it being the weapon of God put up on display as a promise that if we don't piss him off he's not going to use it. But every time I see the rainbow and give the benefit of the doubt sure enough my first assumption about it being rebellion or gay people turns out correct.

>>777536

>That's just her deceiving men with her female assets.

What assets? She's nearly flat.

>>777618

>Flat

>A bad thing

Also, what's ass, pussy, tights, face, right?

Overall, better than I expected. I guess I can enjoy this. That rainbow flag was jarring, though. Shows up again in the ED, really ruins the mood.

>>777230

Are you joking? I will eat a leather boot if the rainbows are about gay pride, but still, feel free to screencap this and rub it in my face if i'm wrong.

>>777168

Yeah and looking at the MAL description it seems like it's essentially lodoss tou senki, but a 2018 anime. And anons are saying it's shit so it probably is.

>>778474

>And anons are saying it's shit so it probably is.

I don't think it's shit yet, but it probably will be later.

>>778513

I've heard it has 23 more episodes, so it will definitely get awful.

>>781207

I liked the kid having the smarts to actually snap out of being choked to death with a kiss and not falling for the old cold steel gambit.

I usually like quickly progressing plots, but now it's very much at the expense of making any sense. They just jump from one battle to another, trying to ally with one guy, another guy, the free lords will surely come since these peasants came to help us; who's even supposed to keep track of all this shit.

>>783210

The author treats his stories as if they needed massive lores, as if they were JRPGs of old. In fact, the author is more suitable to create that than anime (which he does).

Stories must have simple but meaningful goals, and what we have most of the part are complex and meaningless blabberings.

>>778572

The manga isn't awful it's just fairly boring at this point, there's a lot of setup STILL going on I don't know why this got picked up for an anime maybe it gets crazy interesting later or something.

>>783210

In the manga it's pretty well explained why the MC is being treated like a hot potato by almost everyone until they need him to be symbol to go against tyranny. It made up quite a bit of a wall of text and I imagine the anime replicating none of that.

SO did anything interesting happen this episode?

>>785987

The King died.

Theo lost his title.

The plot continues to suck and the pace is too fast. I'm going to watch the next episode but I'm seriously considering dropping this.

>>786077

>The plot continues to suck and the pace is too fast.

Fast doesn't do it justice. The pace of this is at the speed of light. The first half of this episode could have been three episodes.

>>786077

>>786211

I'm a simple person in it for the sword fights, I don't really care about the factories or the other kingdom, how big are they? What is the geography of the land? These do not bother me.

The only good thing I had to say about this was that they at least kept killing their enemies instead of pulling that usual shitty

>geh, I'll get you next time

but there goes that.

>>789038

I don't mind, it made sense in context here. Despite throwing out a ton of magical dakka, they'd only landed one scratch on the vampire, and the wolf queen was badly wounded, and theo had been hit, and god knows what state the daughterus were in.

Definitely a solid case for chewing and swallowing, rather than trying to bite off more by forcing a fight.

>>787666

Agreed. It's fine to leave some mysteries.

Though they could fix the pacing a bit, I'd like to see a bit more filler for character development.

>>790311

So is this any good? I stopped watching the second episode.

>>794305

I'm enjoying it. It's not going to be AOTS, but it's a fun fantasy ride.

Picked up this show to watch it with /a/nons, but now I'm the only one watching it seems

>>794309

It's because it's so generic, so boring, so fast, so uninteresting, so cliche, so bland...

Anon, I'm sorry to disappoint you, but we won't be thread friends for this one.

I just wish the LN was getting translated, since it looks like the anime is rushed to all hell and the manga will probably get cancelled before it adapts everything.

>>794309

Well it's not exactly winning me over compared the other shows right now. And the completely schizophrenic pacing of episode 3 killed it for me.

>>794309

I'm still watching but I don't have anything to say about it. Every episode is more of the same and none of it is really interesting. Actually, more of the same is not entirely right, it's been on a steady decline since they went under the white haired guy.

>oh don't forget it's thingos birthday please organize something

>we are now at the ball

maybe because I wasn't really paying attention, but pacing really takes me by surprise sometimes

>>794333

>>794357

The execution has been completely lacklustre. I hope it picks up again, since we've already seen that it can be good.

This last episode didn't really do anything for me. Birthday ball for a mage I barely knew, boring dance scene, passing responsibility for looking after Lord Whatshisname to Siluca. The only names I remember are her and Theo. They're pushing through events so fast I just kind of zone out in between the battles. I'll start paying attention again when they reach whatever climax they're hurtling towards after the next dozen episodes.

I dropped the manga when I couldn't tell who was who because they all had the same spiky hairstyle.

>>794633

with the way the pacing is going, I'm surprised they haven't already defeated chaos, saved the world and started up an adventuring harem gang.

>>795010

But that would be good, we can't have that

>Blonde white princess offers her virginity to the Sandnigger murderer

>He takes it

And people said the giant rainbow in the opening didn't mean anything.

If anyone has not dropped this yet, you are very strongly advised to do so before watching the next episode. What a fucking turd, holy shit. I didn't believe my eyes. Netflix should've financed this instead of VEG, tumblr would've loved the shit out of it.

If anyone had been watching this in the first place, /pol/ would be have a fucking field day.

>>800527

>>800568

Ok what happened.

>>800573

Basically what >>800527 said. If you haven't been watching at all:

There's a sandnigger semi-antagonist character that was with the "good guys" until now.

There's a blonde white princess/queen that leads the "enemy" faction, but the war is really kind of a farce for political shit. Said princess fell in love with the prince of the "good guys" faction a good while back, they got all rabu-rabu, decided to get married to unite the two warring factions, but at the wedding magick shit happened and she suddenly decided she was gonna be stronk woman who need no man. But she was constantly shown to still be in love with the prince (and vice versa) and their romance was the subject of several episodes, but she keeps ignoring this for no particular reason to play pretend at being a powerful queen.

Fast forward to this episode,

>hey sandnigger, you were killing my troops by the hundreds yesterday but do you wanna switch sides?

<glad you asked, yes

>OK

>but only if I can fuck you right now. Also I know you're still in love with the prince.

>eh, I'm a virgin but ok

And then they fuck. That's all there is to it in regards to future developments too.

>>800586

Fucked up my redtext but you get the point

>>800568

>>800527

>>800586

She became a literal whore.

>>800568

>>800586

I actually think the Japs are sending a clear warning message

>ambitious killer alpha fux > romantic nice guy beta bux (who's just lucky his team has competent warlords)

>the rape of europe by the middle east

Oh I think they know very well what they're doing. It pisses me off but this isn't pandering, this is literally showing the world what the fuck is going on via allegory.

>>800586

>Show is already unpopular

>Do something like this

Wew. They screwed themselves.

>>800683

The show's just an ad for the books afterall.

>>800683

To be fair the show is most likely based off a light novel. Anime is just advertisement to sell merchandise and the source material.

Ah shit, it's worse than I thought. I didn't even watch the series, just pulled up the episode to see what anons were bitching about. The writing/voice acting and everything else seems like shit from the start, but then they throw in a two minute sex scene to boot.

>implying any of it matters

Virginity is a 3DPD argument, don't bring that shit to /a/.

>>800671

Considering the rest of the anime I'd have to say that's not the case. The writer is an idiot and Grancrest Senki is shit, NTR aside.

>>800687

>>800688

Even if it is, sales (and views) matter. If everyone drops your show over a shitty NTR scene that isn't even plot relevant in the end, it's clearly not going to be a good advertisement for the source. Sadly I wouldn't expect the nips to drop this over the NTR scene, but it's not like it was doing well to begin with. It deserves to burn either way.

>>800737

>It deserves to burn either way.

>>800726

P O T T E R Y

>>800737

Also, this may be the thing that sticks with some people in regards to this show. The "NTR show" or "the NTR series" is what it may be seen as or as people come to refer to it as. One will probably not be able to discuss this series without NTR forcing its way to the front.

>>800745

From my understanding this never comes up again and sandnigger will be killed in a few episodes anyway. It being 9 episodes into a subpar anime, it probably never had enough fame to be able to get infamous.

The princess is also supposed to be the antagonist, but this episode aside she's never really done anything to make her appear like one.

That reminds me of what I was going to complain about before the NTR shit

>hey princess, we can defeat our enemies if we use magic chemical weapons

>>but magic chemical weapons are b& by the war code, we'll be breaking the agreement by using them

<HAHA WHO CARES POISON THEM ALL, WHAT COULD GO WRONG #YOLO

She's been consistently making bad decisions but this was really something else. If she fucked the sandnigger before this, they could've won the battle without the chemical weapon shit, and conversely getting the sandniggers on her side wasn't even that important after the battle, and she didn't even fucking do it. The sandnigger prince only promised his personal help, not the rest of his nation.

>>800671

Actually Theo is heavily implied to fuck rainbow mage girl that very episode, the princess is the girl from the intro that was about to be married and the prince is the guy who failed to impress at the very beginning of the show.

>>800750

>From my understanding this never comes up again and sandnigger will be killed in a few episodes anyway.

I haven't even watched this show, but then for what fucking purpose? This anime was going to fade into oblivion from what I saw, but now it will be "that NTR anime where whatsherface fucked a sandnigger" from this point onwards.

>>800753

>I haven't even watched this show, but then for what fucking purpose?

The pacing of this show is awful.

>>800751

That romance scene was awful. I thought it was the lowest point of the series but of course I was proven wrong 10 mins later when we hit the mariana trench.

>>800758

>That romance scene was awful.

It was pretty bad, but I thought at least we're the "romance" subplot was moving forward instead of taking up the entire series, And the series went and ended 10 minutes later.

>>800758

>mariana trench.

Just when I thought that she was becoming a semi-interesting character by showing some backbone and using chemical weapons against people she goes and betrays her love and principles to buy a sword with her body. What a disgusting whore.

>>800745

This isn't NTR. It's just a dumb woman descending into whoredom for what she erroneously believes to be the greater good. She has neither spouse nor romantic partner, and her current goals re: being a strong leader of the Alliance make her juvenile crush on Alexis irrelevant. It's fine to shit on her for being a cheap whore, but call it what it is.

>>800900

You can call it what you want but people will call it NTR, no mater how hard you get mad at them, and this is all they will remember from this series.

>>800900

I would actually have to agree with Anon here. I think those scenes were clearly just meant to cement the Alliance as the "wrong" ones in the war by making them hateable on both a principle and personal level.

I definitely got a little bit of an NTR vibe from the scene but honestly not nearly as much as Franxx. It lacked the presence of the offended party completely and didn't portray the scene in a positive light even remotely. She wasn't even sacrificing her virginity for saving her comerades or anything, she was just doing it for potential strategical gain. Nobody would have been for it except for the quean whose too busy caught up her own ass being strong and independent to consider anything else.

I will say though that if it actually is of no consequence whatsoever in the overarching plot and she gets this forgiving happy ending with her prince despite becoming the Whore Queen it will be unforgivable.

>>800991

>I will say though that if it actually is of no consequence whatsoever in the overarching plot and she gets this forgiving happy ending with her prince despite becoming the Whore Queen it will be unforgivable.

The prince is a bit of a nu-male so I wouldn't be surprised. Hopefully, someone else kills her before he forgives her and accepts his wife's son into the royal line.

Overall, this episode's made me realize we're 9 episodes in and we still have no clue what's going on in the overarching plot, let alone all the fuckton of subplots. This whole show is a mess.

>>801678

But the prince cucked out at the pivotal moment of trying to defend his woman against a thread at the very beginning how could their love story actually matter?

>>801681

Yeah, that has been the thing that has always bothered me about the whole set-up. If she felt anything else other than love for the guy, I guess I could understand. The whole thing is silly.

>>801681

>So why can't they just get married again?

Princess just arbitrarily decided not to, it's never been explained any more. And she still constantly laments over it, but then puts it off every time in favor of waging war for peace. Which they could've gotten through the marriage.

Is this guy really an Arab?

>>801705

The last two episodes were entirely about how people deal with their pasts. Villar effectively announced his death by choosing his bloodline over the future of his country. Alexis put his feelings over the safety of the Union and starts the war at a disadvantage because of it. Marrine made it clear she cares more about her family's goal of conquering the continent than anything else.

>>801750

>Alexis put his feelings over the safety of the Union and starts the war at a disadvantage because of it

The union gave up on the war though

>Marrine made it clear she cares more about her family's goal of conquering the continent than anything else.

But she does not, nor is her family's goal conquering the continent (through war) given that her family consented to the marriage, which is still a readily available option.

>>801761

The Union voted for peace, so they'll start the war at a disadvantage. War was inevitable but Alexis pushed for peace anyway, that's why Villar is going to die. Marrine grew up a warrior, then fell in love and began to believe that a peaceful solution was possible. She then decided that was a lie when her father was killed and went back to warmongering. Given her background and the continent's background, she's got a better argument than the guy that can't even take one punch to the face.

>>801681

>>801761

>>801705

You're missing a detail where the Quean's Cuckin Kitchen justified what she was doing by saying that whoever had staged the assassination of her and the prince's father and interruption of the combining of the crests were likely still out there waiting for them to try it again.

Her justification for the war is basically "If we try to marry again the same people will just try to assassinate us again, so I'm going to conquer the continent instead."

Granted that also makes no sense, since the assassins can just go for her individually instead, giving the same result of an assassination interrupting the ritual or whatever, but there was still something more than "just because."

Anyone know how the Japanese audience is reacting?

Somebody help me. I really want to drop this anime, but for a reason I cannot comprehend, I'm not.

>>801797

You've invested too much time in it. Your brain insists on just wasting 70 more minutes of your life to finish this series in the hopes that things will become better and it won't get a second season.

>>801799

>70 more minutes

You mean 350 more minutes.

>>801792

>>801793

>Anyone know how the Japanese audience is reacting?

The thought that they might hate it almost makes me want to pick this up. Maybe it will get one of those "out of budget HYPER QUALITY" endings.

>>801800

No, you're lying. There's no way this shit got-

>>801801

...Fuck.

>>801793

Not giving a shit.

The /pol/ & Tumblr outrage about the scene is just a Western thing.

>>801811

>When will we have an anime about a Queen who cares about the purity of her line?

You mean a queen that doesn't fall head over heals for the low-born protagonist?

You can defend the purity of your blood line when you have agency. In a martial anime story women can have agency if they are fantastically overpowered. But at that point they no longer care for breeding (unless it's with said protagonist) and thus purity of the line is not a topic that would really be discussed.

What exactly are you imagining?

>>801806

The Japanese production committee decision process is beyond the comprehension of mere mortals.

The head of the committee is Aniplex, so they must have seen something good in the LN.

>>801811

>the purity of her line

That's part of what makes what she did so retarded, even completely ignoring racial factors.

One of the main reasons for the importance placed on female chastity and fidelity is the issue of paternity. Obviously that is far from the only reason why adultery and sluttery are reprihensible, but, especially in a world with royalty and without DNA tests, it's a damn important one. The identity of a mother is never in doubt, but literally the only way for a culture like that to know the father of a child is for there to only be one candidate

Now, I haven't been watching this show, and I'm just jumping in the thread to see the train wreck, but my understanding of the situation is that the princess's love interest was a prince of a rival/hostile nation. A marriage between those two would be of unparallalled diplomatic importance. And given the whole "succession through bloodlines" concept royalty tends to have, their offspring are also crucial.

So when a princess goes out and displays willing to fuck mercenaries for unwritten promises, it casts doubt upon the paternity of any children they might have. And if those children are the key holding an alliance together, leaving their legitimacy open to question is begging for a diplomatic crisis like a whore princess begs for assassin dick.

>>801805

That rather gives me hope for the West, or at least some very small portion of it. Coulda sworn the Nips would've gone full China about sitting through an ep like that.

>>801801

oh boy this is gonna be a while

>>801816

>the only way for a culture like that to know the father of a child is for there to only be one candidate

You shouldn't believe for a second that noble women were actually chaste.

You may have heard of the line "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" - "Who will guard the guards?" and you may have seen it used in the context of the police.

But it's actually about female fidelity, and the point is that there is nothing you can do to keep them from having sex with other men. You can hire guards, but she'll just have sex with them.

>>801824

But from a diplomatic standpoint there's a big difference between discreetly fucking the help and openly whoring yourself to gain allies.

Sure, plenty of noblewomen may have done the former, but when there's a war on the line at least try to hide it.

>>801828

You think anybody was in doubt about Cleopatra?

>>801829

You mean the one with whom the line ended? While involved in a civil war? And led to the country becoming a Roman colony? Not the strongest argument given that the point was that the princess in the show was acting in a way harmful to her nation and her line.

>>801831

>Not the strongest argument

Sure if you put events long after the actual conflict that she won into the argument as if they had been directly effected by it.

>>801820

>That rather gives me hope for the West,

Being triggered by a scene in an anime isn't a positive.

There are enough real problems, acting like you're a woman on her period because of a scene in a Japanese cartoon is ridiculous.

>>801827

Check any large Nip forum/discussion board, there's barely anyone talking about a race issue.

Japan doesn't give a fuck about Arabs or Blacks, they aren't common in Nip land.

Chinks and Koreans on the other hand are an entirely different issue.

In the Kengan Ashura manga, Muteba (Afrikan) fucks 10 Japanese girls to ahegao and nobody cared.

>>801843

>what this recent anime proves it that this is no longer true.

The main girl is still pure.

>>801816

>I haven't been watching this show, and I'm just jumping in the thread to see the train wreck

You and everyone else that has doubled the post count here since Friday, harping about "blacked" and irrelevant 3dpd history.

>>801856

>tfw thought the blacked jokes were funny until everyone and their dead grandmother came to /a/ to join in on it

>tfw maybe two people will actually watch the show and everyone else will just crossboard to bitch about it

>>801857

The funny thing is, the Japanese audience sees all this, thinks, "Oh, it's a Warring States story told with medieval fantasy European characters" and moves on.

>>801866

There is no way Marrine is being presented as a positive role model- she is clearly the antagonist that has abandoned honor and dignity for victory. In direct contrast, Leo has held onto his principles even though it cost him a great amount of power. Leo's obviously the hero, Marrine's obviously the villain.

>>801868

> "It's a warring states story told with medieval fantasy European characters"

"What if Lu Bu was a muslim?"

Also spelling it out a lot more direct like that definitely shows what I think they're going for a lot more.

>>801872

Come to think of it, the Sengoku era in Japan is probably a better comparison. Lots of tiny Lords/daimyo exchanging domains and allegiances while struggling to balance honor and victory.

>>801877

Enemy Queen, who used to be the fiancee of the friendly Prince, whored herself out for a fairly strong soldier. She cancelled her marriage for a stupid reason as well. The whole show has been a mess. It's like someone was just stringing random ideas together. Don't know why I was still watching it.

>>801868

>There is no way Marrine is being presented as a positive role model

The only way this show could redeem itself is by having the ex-fiancee find out about this and not-forgive the whore queen but I fear it's going to go the "she did it for the greater good so lets forgive her (maybe this will happen on he deathbed)" route.

I hope I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure I'm not.

>>801829

If your woman is fucking the guards and word got out about that then your rivals can use that as grounds to challenge your right to rule, you do not let those sorts of things happen out in the open. This also applies to being gay, if you're a faggot who likes taking it up the ass then you never let word get out and you'd suck it up and fuck a girl until she's pregnant then never touch her again while you keep a secret lover on the side because it would immediately destroy the legitimacy of your family and your rivals can swoop in possibly even causing a civil war if word gets out. Or you're retarded and openly declare yourself cause politically that's basically saying you're not having any heirs.

>>801883

Chances are she'll succeed in uniting all the Crests but it'll end up making everything worse somehow. She'll die full of regrets, Alexis will cry because he's good for honestly nothing else, and that'll be that for their tragic little love story.

>>801894

People who make dumb mistakes get punished for them, what's bad about that? Wait until the series is over before deciding it's sending a bad message to the kiddies.

I have been looking for reason to drop this garbage and now it has presented it self, the plot was way too fast and shit way too convoluted, been gone for 2 weeks and now I see there's shitskin POV NTR because the princess is mentally retarded and so is literally every one else, glad I'm dropping this shit.

>>801924

I don't now how the fuck they are going to carry this shit 24 episodes.

>>801897

>People who make dumb mistakes get punished for them

Unless it is going Game of Thrones tier and you are Danny, who NEVER is punished for her fuckups while everyone else is creamed into paste for so much as stubbing their toe.

>>801897

>>Wait until the series is over

>actually watching any more of this shit

>>801937

It might, but I doubt it. The anime plans on ending after a planned 24-episode run instead of bugging the author to write more source material so they can keep dragging things out.

>>801943

I will, since the show made it really clear that what Marrine did was the wrong thing to do.

>>801809

Wait, isn't Season 3 in production?

>>777120

When I watch this it feels like they are pressing fast forward.

A lot of you dipshits would probably shit on a show that was explicitly anti-NTR propaganda that was pro-family, country, and race just because it had to have the NTR scene for the setup. I'm not sure where the line is drawn here.

NTR disgusts me on a sexual, emotional, and instinctual level but even I'm not reactionary enough to classify something as NTR when it's ham-fisted enough to basically be spelling it out for the audience that it was a bad thing in every conceivable way. Do you need Moon Man to come on screen and burn them alive with a flamethrower before its acceptable?

Her cheating on the prince was depicted on the same level as ``commiting a war crime and gassing a town with fantasy Zyklon B`` for fucks sake.

>>801956

It was less fast-forward to me and felt more like the first 5 or so episodes were actually a huge recap for a previous season that didn't exist. I have no idea why they needed to do that with 24 episodes at their disposal.

>>801897

From the spoilers that I've read

her cheating is forgiven and she officially cucks/marries the prince.

>>801801

>24 episodes of this garbage

wew. Time sunk fallacy almost had me but I'm not staying on mr bones wild NTR ride for another 15 episodes. If they keep the stellar pacing up though, it might turn into an intergalactic space drama by episode 20.

>>802061

I don't disagree with you. Please keep that in mind.

But movies in general are getting more and more graphic. (talking mostly about Hollywood, but it's somewhat true for anime too) Subtle story telling is almost completely out of the window. I think that at this point we're in a vicious cycle where people are trained to expect to have action all the time in a movie, and almost nothing to intellectually digest, and directors feel like they need to spend more and more money on bigger and bigger special effects and show more and more skin for the movies (or shows) to not just sink into obscurity.

>>802071

>where people are trained to expect to have action all the time in a movie

Noticed that they are cutting out the tension building scenes as well. One that comes to mind immediately is Star Wars. Where you can have a scene of Luke watching the sun set while the music plays in A New Hope. You only get that same scene in the latest dumpster fire the wind down an action scene where they fucking kill him off (fuck you Disney) and the directors think that something has to happen all the time and scenes must start and end abruptly.

>>801965

>Do you need Moon Man to come on screen and burn them alive with a flamethrower before its acceptable?

Can you explain to me how hating NTR is /pol/ related?

>>802118

Your argument shifts the issue from "NTR is shit/BLACKED/etc."- the attitude that these issues should never appear in shows to begin with- to "I don't like how they showed the scene", which is perfectly reasonable. I think many anons will agree that the scene was graphic, but the main thrust of >>801965 is pointing out how ridiculous it is to say any depiction of this content is bad.

>>802118

>Then you should think carefully before going off about

><you dipshits would probably shit on a show that was explicitly anti-NTR propaganda...because it had to have the NTR scene for the setup

/a/ is not 2 people. I have counted. We're actually a group of 10 people. 11 at rush hour.

>Unless you aren't the same anon, in which case nevermind.

I could have spelled that out, but I've gotten into trouble in the past when some ridiculous autist took that statement as proof that I was in fact samefagging. It seems I can't escape my fate of always getting misunderstood.

>I don't even know why you state this here.

Because my point was not to argue with you (since I was not disagreeing with you), but to go on a tangent and expand on something that you only touched upon.

>>802118

Yes, this post here sums up the whole thing rather well. The fact that there was basically no weight added to the actual romantic scene while the whoring out one was is highly suspicious of director being an NTR cuck.

>>802128

>/a/ is not 2 people. I have counted. We're actually a group of 10 people. 11 at rush hour.

You're pretty awful at counting if you can't take into account time zones.

>>802159

>The point isn't that the subject matter is incorporated into a story but HOW and WHY it is incorporated into the story

You added detail to your argument- there are lots of people posting here. Reading the thread, many are just angry it happened period, and not about the pacing or camera work. There's a reason >>802118 is effectively the first post to mention anything of substance, the rest is stuff like "It is NTR, and not just any NTR... It's BLACKED/Mohammad NTR". In the end we're getting a dogpile and that's normal for any imageboard, but most of the people in this thread were not arguing about the POV presentation, they were just angry it happened in the first place.

>>802177

I think it would have honestly been mostly glossed over if not for the POV pushing it in everyone's faces. There would have been some discourse, but not at this level.

>>802179

Maybe, but everyone is hypersensitive about NTR (for good reason, but still) so I think it would have blown up regardless.

>>802177

It barely qualifies as NTR, they were not currently in a relationship. She just whored herself out for a stupid reason. Actually, I don't think she's made a logical decision in the whole show. And that includes fraternizing with an enemy prince, who for all she knew, might just want to get close to her to kill her. All the other characters aren't much better in that regard.

>>802159

Was going to watch NT,HT a while ago but got busy and forgot about it. Guess I dodged a bullet.

>>802118

Only decent post in the thread.

>>802212

>they were not currently in a relationship

That's not a requirement for NTR at all.

There are plenty of childhood friend or sister/mother NTR stories.

Hell, the first time I've seen anyone use NTR was when the infamous "it really hurts to have your hymen torn" NTR story got translated.

The fact that the prince is in love with the whore queen is more than enough to make this NTR.

>>802299

It depends. Does the person being taken rub it into the person who missed out? Does the author rub it in that the man missed out? It can be just as bad as active malice and stupidity.

best original ending

>>802117

The Moonman example was hyperbole, you can insert any sort of extreme anti-NTR or degeneracy scenario and it still fits.

I would however say that hating NTR is significantly more right-wing at this point than it used to be. With major leftist media outlets advocating for cuckoldry on a regular basis it's pretty obvious that insulting it is at least more right than what is now considered the liberal left. Shit even the insult "cuck" largely stems from the likes of /pol/, it just managed to catch on well with the general population.

I wouldn't say it's inherently /pol/ however, more so a matter of basic values, which many seem to lack nowadays.

>>802118

"dipshits" anon here, seeing this post it's obvious I misunderstood the argument some were presenting. It's entirely valid to dislike the way the scene was directed.

>>802159

What you quote here and represent what I said actually was not what I meant. I saw the discussion and assumed it wasn't an issue with the direction but an issue with just the fact NTR was present. In other words, I thought that no matter how the scene was depicted just the fact that she "cheated" on the prince was grounds for the show being shit, despite the fact that it was clearly depicted for them both to be villains in this situation and a negative thing.

I wasn't standing up for the direction I was insulting the idea that NTR couldn't be depicted in any fashion even if it was effectively spitting on anyone who likes the content, which I honestly got the vibe from in the Franxx discussions.

That aside, not-shakespeare and his not-spartans deserved better.

>>802965

Skimmed through it. Some king they just introduced died by arrows. Whore Queen on the attack. Don't know why they expect the audience to care about any of these characters they don't even spend half an episode on. Only watched about a minute of the episode, but it seemed like pretty much nothing happened. The pacing of this show is terrible.

They could've done a proper anime lodoss, but instead it's generic garbage.

>>801809

I'd rather see kazuma sink his face into the trap titties.

>>803202

Did they hit their budget cap already?

>>803226

They must have spent it all on POV thrusting animation

>>777303

It got a lot worse.

How about that episode?

Did they use real water for the beach shots? It looked almost like they overlayed the characters on it like a bad shop.

I'm honestly surprised they didn't liberate the island in a single episode given the pacing they've had previously. Not to mention with how the episode before this one had the Rossini's saying they'd go all out and kill him with all their power. Which would be a good plan to do, but apparently between the last episode and this one Theo's plot armor somehow wedged itself in between their ears and prevented them from executing something that would actually maybe work.

This show is shit and I really don't know why I keep watching it.

Holy shit I forgot about this trainwreck.

>>812535

>What kills me is how CR keeps changing names

Wew, when even Crunchyroll can't be fucked you know you're bottom of the barrel.

>>803202

>it's resolved post-credits in a single line of dialogue

I've always hated off screen adventures as they allow for the creator to be lazy and the characters to magic a victory a out of nothing.

What's worse the pacing of this or Overlord and the Lizardmen?

>>812571

>What's worse the pacing of this or Overlord and the Lizardmen?

This by a mile.

>>812571

The pacing for Overlord is absolutely terrible, but it's nowhere as bad as this. This had an incredibly awful budget as well and it ended up becoming a trainwreck.

Did anyone else watch the latest episode over the weekend? Tl;dw; Milza loses a fight because he doesn't understand forests because desert people. He's not dead though, but he won't be getting any worthwhile reinforcements because slave revolt prompted by giant naked titties and naked army. Silica rubs main dudes back and he gets such a boner he decides to siege castle unicorn.

We're back in shit-pacing territory once more, not to mention disappointments after build ups for no reason.

Was it ever mentioned who Theo left in charge in Sistina? Seemed like he just went, overthrew the lord, and hauled ass back to the mainland for his next fight, taking the Rossini guy with him.

Everyone ready for Emperor Theo?

>>829344

How the fuck did it transpire that Marrine, who has given up basically everything to subjugate the continent by force, just surrenders her chance to be the ruler along with Alexis?

>no i'm good you can be the emperor, theo

What? I get that Alexis is just along for the ride as long as he gets his waifu, but that jump didn't make any sense to me coming from her. I thought maybe she wanted to foist the risk of assassination onto Theo, but it's still her marriage to Alexis that unites the continent. Without that there is no Emperor Theo.

>>829422

>that jump didn't make any sense

This show has many a problem. Not making any sense has long been the case. Pacing is total shit. Characters that are interesting die off in one episode, characters that are bland, 1-dimensional, and plot-armored stick around far too long and add barely anything. I started watching because midriffs are a wonderful thing, but not even that could save this show after Milze appeared. Theo has got to be a self-insert for the author, which would explain why he gets everything going his way with little to none impasses in his way. Like Marrine just giving up after seeing an army arranged like a flower.

Not to mention the stupidity of all those troops cheering when Alexis kissed her. They just spent days having their comrades die while fighting alliance forces, and then arrive to find Theo's forces nearly slaughtered and on the brink of losing, but they're cheering for something good that happens to the enemy leader? Bull. Shit.

Someone at some point said this show was supposed to be the authors attempt to be like a historical documentary, like LotGH was, but this shit is too poorly written to ever come close, let alone be compared to in the same sentence to that masterpiece.

I honestly just watch this for the hateboner and because I'm too many episodes in to not find out how this trash fire ends.