/a/ - Animu & Mango

I've seen that artstyle before but I can't remember where.

Looks nice. I especially like Robin's Samurai haircut.

There is batman manga from decades ago but this seems kind of strange. I basically know nothing about either character but don't they mainly care about Gotham city and the area around it?

>>774776

I looked up the character designer, it is the same guy who did afro samurai

>>774774

>Screenplay: Kazuki Nakashima

Well, it could turn out to be a lot of fun. One can only hope that the usual problems of CG framerate isn't going to be too bad.

>Batman - Nioh edition

I'll watch it.

>>774778

This looks surprisingly good in 60fps.

>>774799

finally we can get a CG show that looks like the JoJo openings and not Berserk 2016

>>774816

well, movie, not show, but whatever

>>775269

正体などどうでもいい

大事なのは計画だ

>>775269

https://0x0.st/vwm.webm

I really need to re-encode this to fit in 16 MiB at some point.

>>774774

I'm not sure what to think about that but I do love that sort of Sengoku-cyber/steam punk setting. It reminds me to Samurai Seven in that regard.

>>775268

There is no limit to shit the Japanese will come up with to make more Sengoku era stuff.

>>775279

To be fair, there are a lot of angles to take on the period, technological, political, social, and mythical. And also batman, apparently.

And not surprising, when the Nips do it it's fucking awesome. This actually looks ridiculously cool and that's coming from someone who avoids capeshit like the plague.

>>775313

Capeshit, like most concepts out there, is not inherently bad. What's bad is how it's generally handled, and nips have been handling capeshit better than westerners recently, with OPM and MHA. Let's see if this continues the trend.

>plot about Western villains trying to rewrite Japanese history, destroying their culture

>movie that is likely going to be Western heroes trying to rewrite Japanese current sentiments guarantee there will be DC-pushed SJW plugs, destroying their culture

Unless the fact that it is in Sengoku-era Japan is inextricable from a key plot-point Plots to take over the world/destroying buildings can take place in any time period I am going to call it nothing more than an attempt to break Western Capeshit propaganda into the minds of the Japanese because PC stuff isn't selling super well here. Even if it's all Japanese people in the credits, I seriously doubt that DC had no conditions about certain themes that needed to be touched on, or creative control, otherwise. Why else would it have to be a Westerner going to their country, rather than simply the characters being japanese, in the time period, with the same relationships to each other? Because the time machine plot device is going to be used in such a unique way? I seriously doubt it, because this is shounen.

$10 says the Joker's plan is to "Unite Japan into one culture and make it the most powerful nation in the world! Japan is #1!" and Batman's plan is to "free" the nation to be "whatever it wants to be", except unified, unless it's unified under the banner of "Openness."

I expect a ban for this post, but the "Is he trying to rewrite the history of the country?" just set off the alarm bells for me, because it means that the writers are targeting the Japanese culture as a subject, and again, Batman is not Japanese, he's a westerner who's going to save Japan and "Free" it, ultimately. That much can be gained from the preview.

>>775305

Whoever did it I'd like to see more of it. I'm actually pretty curious as to how some anime would look in 60fps.

>>775325

You mean to tell me you expected a bane for this post and you still posted it?

Did you start the fire?

>>775325

>Why else would it have to be a Westerner going to their country, rather than simply the characters being japanese, in the time period, with the same relationships to each other?

Because they wanted to make a Batman cartoon? Come on, man, there's a difference between awareness and paranoia...

Do you also think Ni-Oh has some anti Japanese agenda because the protagonist is a white samurai?

>>775338

No he does make a valid point. And in this day and age one can never be too careful of western media, this goes without saying. Ultimately I don't think we'll know for sure until the movie plays, so it could very well go both ways. I for one choose to retain my hope that the Nips pull through and deliver an original product that is free of PC propaganda.

>3d

>more capeshit and recycled characters AGAIN

>for some reason everyone's speaking Japanese

Bruce Wayne canonically and publicly knows Japanese. He's an international businessman who has trained with all sorts of Japanese martial artists. I believe his sons know it as well for the same reasons. Really Joker knowing it is the only questionable one, and Joker's backstory is intentionally left open.

>>774774

Looks like shit.

Not only batman, but the entire cast transported to japan? Batman ditches his high-tech suit for no reason? Joker has a giant robot?

What were they smoking?

>>775361

Funpowder. Do you dislike fun?

>>775354

Okay, I'll try to be a little less crackpot and try to respond calmly.

>First, the Japanese already know very well about capeshit

Right, it's not like they've never heard of Superman, Mickey Mouse, etc. I mean specifically the very recent sociopolitcal themes that have objectively driven capeshit into a corner because they were getting direction from the top to push it into everything. Were you aware of that happening as of late? That Thor is now, canonically, a black woman? You honestly may not be aware if you don't post outside of /a/ much. The ideological pandering was being pushed into absolutely everything they did.

>Second, they love the Sengoku era so much they're ready to take ANY premise no matter how silly.

That part of my comment was really more about my own personal tastes, not whether or not it'll sell well. I do not enjoy Umaru because I don't feel it is written well, for example. The characters, setting, storyline, etc. are all very lazily written and stupid. If this "Batumano in Japan" is going to be like a "Sharks...in SPACE!" sort of film, where something is happening "Just because," I am utterly uninterested, because it shows a lack of inspiration on the part of the writers, and I won't watch shounen just for the visuals. That is purely personal taste.

>Third, "freeing" the nation? This is Sengoku, not the Bakumatsu. Unification is the universal goal of the era

This is a little dense of you. Taken in its proper context, it's pretty clear I meant "freeing" the nation from the Joker's Tyranny. Did you watch the same trailer that I did? Did you not see the followers wearing Joker masks and calling him "Lord Joker" or whatever? Clearly the plot is about Joker vying for power and, quote, "Trying to change the history of Japan" probably for his (the joker's) own good, right? Or do you think that the villain is not trying to get himself more power?

So it may be pure crackpot to you, but I still take the fact, not opinion, that DC is extremely political, the fact that the Joker is trying to change the culture/history of Japan in the film, and speculate that it is very possible politics will find its way into the film because the naiton's political history is a central focus of the story, and Batman will be fighting to preserve it from the Joker's meddling. That still all sounds pretty reasonable to me, but I suppose the only way we will know is to wait and see.

>>775345

I agree the point is valid, hence my comment about awareness. I think we should be aware if DC tries to do something slimy, push something no one wants, but I believe this is just a case of a japanese studio having fun doing a spinoff of an established IP.

How much are DC executives and writers involved in this anyways? They could have very well just let these guys do a Batman movie because they had a good pitch and then didn't involve themselves too much afterwards. DC might be ran by idiots with an agenda but even they need money.

We'll see, I'm also optimistic about how this will turn out.

>>775378

I think we can all agree to hope that this will be a good production with solid VA work and a good story. Let's all love Lain

>>774816

That's because it is animated by the same company which did the JoJo openings.

>>775378

> I believe this is just a case of a japanese studio having fun doing a spinoff of an established IP.

Anime studios are normally just contractors, meaning it's very likely that the studio was approached by DC & WB to create this.

>How much are DC executives and writers involved in this anyways?

The production committee is always at least partially involved in the creation of an anime, it's certainly a large possibility that DC asks for certain themes to be included in the anime.

>>775361

No fun allowed: the post.

>>775368

I might have heard it wrong but I think near the beginning of the trailer Joker referred to himself as Dairokuten Maō, an ironic nickname embraced by the historical Nobunaga.

I think what you said here:

>$10 says the Joker's plan is to "Unite Japan into one culture and make it the most powerful nation in the world! Japan is #1!" and Batman's plan is to "free" the nation to be "whatever it wants to be", except unified, unless it's unified under the banner of "Openness."

is correct. Nobunaga's ambition was basically that.

>>776819

The film's release is the only way we will know for sure, but I will clarify again, that I will only really have a problem with this film's premise if it is being used as propaganda.

>>775340

>DC wants to do this now when their sales are tanking due to PC

They dialed back the PC crap about a year ago, and their sales improved. DC is also willing to take some risks with animation every few years. Assault on Arkham, Gods and Monsters, and The Killing Joke were their previous attempts, and they all did well financially.

Decision to make it an anime film this time was probably driven by fact that DC does not want Marvel to become "the superhero company" in Japan and Asia and probably South America by extension. Since DC cant beat Marvel in live action, they will do it in animation.

However, it is unsettling how more and more western money makes its way into anime again. Last time around it ended with forgettable capeshit reinterpretations. This time around we've got Space Dandy and Neo Yokio so far. Batman looks promising, but dragging out corpses started out already with FLCL2 and 3.

Why is it Batman that travels back in time and why not just be Batman in Japan?

>>776959

Because the aesthetic is cool.

>>776960

Yeah I guess but I got some better aesthetic here

>>774774

Batman Beyond when it takes alot of inspiration from anime already

This is probably going to suck. Also friendly reminder that Batman is a rip off of The Shadow.

>>776959

Because that would just be Big O.

>>775366

>>776759

>shit is fun

Go ahead and gorge yourself on it then.

I prefer things with actual nutritional value.

>>777025

Calm down, fun police.

>>775305

There are video filters for it.

>>774779

How to animate CG with an anime aesthetic

>Individually model frames with exaggerated positions to imply motion

>Tween all motion and render at a low framerate

It's already far cheaper than hand drawn animation, does it really cost so much to do it properly?

>>777396

>It's already far cheaper than hand drawn animation, does it really cost so much to do it properly?

Is it? From what I''ve heard it costs the same or is more expensive.

3D animators don't work for peatnuts.

>>777025

If you don't like watching dumb concepts being treated seriously, why the fuck are you on a board for anime?

>>777461

>all anime is dumb

If you cannot use your brain, why are you on a board for human beings?