No.750408
Please refrain from posting spoilers, i'd like for people to experience this anime on their own skin.
That said, if you really have to, discuss plot with the spoiler feature.
If you didn't see the show do yourself a favour and do that before posting here, you have been warned.
With that said DAT FUCKING ENDING. I had to fight the urge to cry and i still shed some tears. Just thinking about it makes my eyes a bit moist.
I also can't shake the "Hunter x Hunter" vibe this anime gives me in all of its core components: from the childish desire for adventure and exploration, to the quest to find your parents, to the curiosity to learn about all the secrets this world has to offer just to be faced with terrible odds and truths you didn't want to know.
No.750409
Is Nanacchi a boy or a girl?
Also was there never a thread for this before or did that just get axed for some reason?
No.750410
>>750409
I looked for it and couldn't find it.
If there is i apologize.
Of course he's a boy, that was the joke.
No.750412
>>750410
No problems man, I was looking for a Made in Abyss thread a week ago and couldn't find it.
Also you're wrong.
No.750413
>not reading the manga
You better start reading now or I'm going to spoil it for you, you secondary.
No.750419
The ending wasn't that great. Maybe if we had time to experience the suffering, but objectively, Nanachi's plight was akame ga kill tier shit, at least in the anime.
And Bondrewd did nothing wrong.
>>750409
It hit the bump limit and series was over so no one bothered.
No.750427
Any word on when the manga will be continued?
No.750429
>>750427
It's actually a weekly, but it's being written from the seventh layer so the time distortion means we have no idea how long it will take.
No.750441
I'm glad regu-regu pre-talked Nanachi out of killing herself, that's the only part that kinda hurt to see. I want to know more about that psychic attack stuff that messed up Ozen's scalp, and if the suits worn by #1 best dad and friends somehow guards against it
No.750443
>>750441
Too bad best dad stayed behind so unless he comes into the seventh layer whatever reason, we probably won't see him again
No.750467
>>750443
We saw some of the other characters again, even though the stayed behind. I'm pretty sure we'll see him again in bonus chapters and maybe even in the main story, depending on what happens
No.750490
>>750419
>Bondrewd did nothing wrong.
You piece of shit. Making lolis suffer like that is not okay.
No.750507
First 9 episodes were really not that good in my opinion, then the rest were fun to watch. This manga/show would really benefit from exploring the layers themselves more, instead of focusing on character drama. Did we really need so much sentimentality from Ozen's trap maid?It felt really underwhelming up until Orby-chan. I went in hoping it would be like Hunter x Hunter, but HxH hit the ground running, whereas this show took a while to rev up and right when it was finally getting good, it ended.
No.750508
Is this really the proper way to treat a loli?
No.750509
>>750508
It's the only way.
No.750510
>>750508
Of course. Naughty lolis need to be punished.
No.750522
With Nanachi's description of the abyss forcefield and how it works, couldn't you just ascend extremely slowly?
You're affected if you climb 10 meters in one go, because you poke through the field at that point. It can no longer bend around you. But does it relax after a while and allow more ascension? Or you can NEVER climb more than 10 meters above your lowest point? (Assuming you're in 6)
The fluidity she describes leads me to believe you could do 10 meters, wait a day or so, do another 10, etc. and never feel the effects.
No.750542
>>750537
Popeye, Stinkoman and Bugs Bunny.
No.750544
>>750522
Somehow the white whistles have been able to come back to the surface. So unless they just take the brunt of the curse, they must have some way to get back up from the sixth layer
No.750545
>>750542
Holy shit, you need to complete the trinity now
No.750552
>>750490
>And Bondrewd did nothing wrong.
He may be a piece of shit but He ain't wrong
No.750576
>>750553
>Sugar
>Spice
>And everything nice
These were the ingredients chosen to make the perfect little cartridges.
No.750591
>>750408
So, when's the next chapter come out?
Season 2 never ;_;
No.750594
>>750552
Have you prayed to your lord and saviour today?
No.750599
>>750408
The HxH parallels only heighten when you realize that Reg's seiyuu is the same as Killua. It becomes pretty obvious with his singing voice, but somehow it took until the last episode before I noticed.
I had a moment of insanity that nearly resulted in laughing myself into a heart attack, imagining Reg AS Killua, and of course this means that genki-girl (who is much tougher than she looks) Riko is Biscuit, which leaves Nanachi as Gon, who of course is carrying around Mitty which is actually the partially-melted yet still-alive HEAD OF KITE.
I'm not sure if this makes me a horrible person.
As for the series, it hurts that it's already over. Every couple of days, I suddenly have a longing feeling to want to watch another episode, and have to be disappointed that there aren't any, and probably never will be, (and even if there were, as I have now read the manga it won't be as enjoyable). It's by far my favorite anime that I've seen in YEARS. It gave me that extremely rare feeling where I became obsessed with it, think about it all the time, and couldn't get enough. Every episode, even the last one, seemed to end way too quickly.
No.750605
>>750508
Sometimes you just have to discipline your lolis.
No.750607
>Tfw no Made in Abyss etrian Odyssey clone
>Tfw i now have a loli mistreating father more rustle worthy than tucker from FMA finally.
2 weeks later im still mad.
No.750622
>>750607
Fuck you're right. Someone needs to draw Bondrewd and Tucker at a Best Dads convention.
No.750633
No.750634
>>750553
Where's the Sasuga for Ainz Ool Gown?
No.750754
>>750607
TFW you realize that all Bondrewd was doing was painstakingly transforming his children into miniature Philosopher Stones, to power his SCIENCE alchemy.
In order to obtain, something of equal value must be lost. But what could equal the value of a spilled loli?
No.750795
At least the author is taking time with the manga instead of rushing it.
No.750801
>>750795
or the amount of self titled "kemonobros" jerking off to a rabbitloli is disgusting them into inactivity.
No.750804
>>750801
Are you the same faggot who already got banned once in this thread, or is there something about this show that's drawing in cancer from /v/?
You don't seem to be from around here.
No.750819
>>750754
I'm still fuzzy on how exactly white whistles are made, and the logic of the narehate village. Either it wasn't worded very well or I must have been tired when reading through the chapters.
No.750850
>>750819
From what I understand, white whistles are literally carved out of an Abyss artifact found on the 5th floor by said white whistle, and it may or may not have something to do with how they maintain their sanity/humanity upon ascension.
Not sure about the narehate village since I haven't read that far into the mango yet,
No.750858
Christ people, use fucking spoilers.
>>750850
>>750819
Basically, the white whistles are made from a human sacrifice. I also glossed over exactly what caused it or where it formed, but because Prapushka wanted to go with loli and Reg so badly, she created the white stone after liquification. Now theyre in Narahate Village it can be made into a White Whistle.
But essentially it's just human sacrifice
No.750863
>>750858
The person is sacrificed and their soul hardens into a form that becomes the white whistle
No.750918
>>750863
>>750858
There's also some element where the sacrificed person has to be emotionally attached to the person who then "receives" the white whistle, and that is why it only works for one person; that part was what didn't make much sense to me. I suppose it was just because Prushka really, really wanted to go traveling with Riko, that it overrode her undying devotion to Bestdad. But that being said, why doesn't Bestdad have like fifty fucking white whistles from all the cartridges of devoted children he's sacrificed?
The method where the white whistles are carved from their raw form is also weird, because Narehate Village is in level 6, so nobody should be able to return alive from there.
No.750949
>>750858
I didn't say anything past what's revealed in the animu, faggot. Everything in the show is fair game for non-spoilering.
No.750958
>>750918
Well It seemed liked best dad put all of his love into Prapushka. The only other children you see don't like whats happening and when the gang went there, you never even saw any children that weren't already in the cartridges
No.750976
>>750918
What if they carve their white whistles by hand on level 5 or above?
No.751699
>>750594
tfw when ypu see your daughter is all grown up
No.751713
>>751699
>implying Bestdad is a haremfag
No.751785
>>751713
He is when it comes to his cartridges.
No.751979
>>751785
Given that he only consumes them one at a time it would be better to call it serial monogamy.
No.752044
>>750409
>>750410
She's refered as female in the manga. But translator notes that there's ambiguity in the original text (I dunno how that works, I know nothing of nihongo).
Given japan's stance on accepting homosexuals as long as they have clear homosexual traits in anime and manga, and given that nanachi blushes when reg rubs her, I'd say it's safe to assume she's a girl.
No.752058
>>752044
>(I dunno how that works, I know nothing of nihongo).
Japan has a gender-neutral pronoun on top of the normal male and female ones. It gets a lot of use when a character is of unknown or undetermined gender. However, one could say Nanachi is either, because they're not human at all and in fact not truly a member of any given species. For all we know they have flower genetalia.
The assumption is female due to the sack-cloth dress she wore as a human, but given their background it could easily have been a matter of convenience and they could have been male. So who knows?
No.752498
No.753067
>>752058
>For all we know they have flower genetalia
Well, since Nanachi can eat by logical extension they must have an anus, and therefore they can take a submissive position during sex which is justification enough to label them as a girl, in my book.
No.753069
>>750410
>>750409
>>752058
>>753067
Turns out that Nanachi's sex is really supposed to be a mystery.
No.753071
No.753074
>>753069
This is just fucking ridiculous.
No.753077
>>753069
>draw a girl
>hire a voice actress to voice the character for the animu adaptation
>say her sex is a mystery
These fucking Japs, I swear...
No.753079
>>753074
>>753077
Give that man a break. He likes loli, shota, traps and kemono. Keeping her sex a mystery is the last bit of undiscovered fetish he could include.
No.753089
>>753071
Chapter 43 is going to take longer than expected (he said on his twitter early in october that chapter 43 was going to be released somewhere during october)
https://twitter.com/tukushiA/status/924520914636509185
https://archive.fo/OZckl
No.753306
>>750918
I assume Best Dad receives the white whistles from the nerehate village by the elevator, since it's activated by a white whistle.
No.753327
>>753069
Well, either way it's going in the butthole.
No.753369
>>753077
Where is a will there's also a hole.
No.753405
>>753069
>>753327
They are both small time. They don't even have breasts. Pic related is how you truly draw a character who's sex is ambigous.
No.753415
>>753405
Not bad, but check this one.
Honestly, I never even thought that he was a girl, but apparently a lot of people thought and still think that he is a girl.
No.753417
>>753415
Nah, he doesn't count. Everyone in Part 5 is drawn really feminine and he is officially referred to as a guy.
No.753465
>>753405
This is ironic, because Pitou is canonically male in the manga, but for some reason Madhouse decided to give him a pronounced bust and make it more ambiguous. But at least here it makes sense; they're all weird hybrid creatures, so Pitou could have been made from a male cat and a female human, or vice-versa.
I find this is sort of the case with Made in Abyss, too. In the manga, there's no implication that Marulk is actually a boy (that I can find), but the anime calls it out explicitly by having Reg mention it.
No.753483
>>753465
>This is ironic, because Pitou is canonically male in the manga
That's only in some info guide, isn't it? Was that even written by the author?
As for Made in Abyss the scenes with Maruruk and Reg are the same in the manga, plus the Manga also has that bonus chapter in which Jiruo calls him out for it.
No.753503
File: 7127f5f760433b6⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 1.22 MB, 872x1236, 218:309, Made in Abyss - d003 (mix)….png)
>>753465
>In the manga, there's no implication that Marulk is actually a boy
It's heavily implied.
No.753507
Gotta be honest, got caught up on the mango to the same point as the animu, and this is one of the few examples of the anime being better than the manga.
No.753539
File: 4fc127ab6cea2ec⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 974.94 KB, 872x1236, 218:309, Made in Abyss - d003 (mix)….png)
>>753503
Considering the next page is immediately this, you think the lad is being forced into it by the Immovable Lord?
No.753543
>>753539
I assume so. It's the fate Jiruo narrowly escaped from.
No.753697
>>753503
Eh... I still think it looks like a girl. Would Reg have that kind of reaction to seeing another boy naked?
No.753702
>>753697
Why not? Especially if he thought Marulk was a girl but saw differently.
No.753722
>>753539
Ozen never ceases to be the best.
No.753798
>>753697
Anono, everybody who read the manga knew he was a guy long before he appeared in the anime. Stop being paranoid.
No.753869
>>753798
And everyone also knew Nanachi was a girl, right? You have reason to be paranoid in a manga that has traps of every kind around every corner. Some of those traps will kill you, some of them will stuff you into cartridges and some of them have dicks... or maybe not.
No.753872
>>753697
If this isn't a girl I'm a flaming homo. Those are budding breasts, I'm absolutely sure of it.
No.753874
>>753697
On one hand there are multiple times when it's heavily implied it's a trap, and dialogue that doesn't make sense if it isn't, but looking at the way the pee is flowing I don't see how that could happen with a dick.
No.753875
>>753874
What if it's a tiny dick?
No.753879
>>753875
Size wouldn't make a difference. With the way the rope is sitting, the bits would be pushed forward and the stream would be away from the body, and couldn't flow straight down the legs like that; certainly not from that close to the top, at least.
If anything a smaller one would make it even less possible, since it would point more forward instead of being able to curve downward under gravity.
No.753883
>>753879
Then either he packs a gigantic horse dick, or maybe he was trying not to pee, and so it was only dripping.
No.753915
>>753503
>>753539
>>753697
Maruruk being forced to wear a dress is Ozen's attempt to replace what she lost with Lyza.
She's a crazy cat widow that takes in shotas and uses them to fill a hole in her heart.
No.753918
>>753872
This was my thought exactly when I saw that pic.
>>753879
At the risk of playing Devil's Advocate to my own argument, for the sake of fetish purposes... maybe he has a tiny erection from the humiliation and the pee is just kinda dribbling out and then running downward.
No.754052
>>753874
What if Ozen took his dick away?
No.754054
>>754052
That's not how dicks work, you can't just snatch them away.
No.754056
>>754054
You can if you're Ozen.
No.754066
>>754052
That would be fucking horrible! But it's also totally in her personality, so I suppose it could be true.
No.754075
His uncircumcised dick is caught between his thigh and the rope which is why the pee is where it is.
No.754111
File: 0b0623cb114a640⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 269.96 KB, 800x800, 1:1, 0b0623cb114a640004cb194a7c….png)
>>753879
>>753918
It wouldn't shout out if he's trying to hold back as hard as possible. He's probably just peeing on his own leg and it is slowly flowing down.
>>754075
Or this pretty much.
>>753915
>She's a crazy cat widow that takes in shotas and uses them to fill a hole in her heart.
She's using him to fill holes, alright. Not in her heart though.
No.754116
>>754111
>>753915
Even when your dick is completely flaccid, it stands at an angle. Now matter how hard you try to fight it, your pee comes out at an angle, following a parabolic curve, not a straight line downwards. In fact, trying to hold back makes it shoot out in gushes with possibly more pressure than it would otherwise. Plus, your dick is in the middle of your legs. Even if you manage to pee approximately downwards, it's not going to land on your leg.
>>754075 's explanation is much more plausible. That is, assuming he has a dick at all
The pee thing aside, at least with Marulk it is plausible that he's a trap. It's been hinted at in that nudge-nudge, wink-wink sort of way. But to suggest that Nanachi's actually a boy is downright preposterous.
No.754154
>>754116
>But to suggest that Nanachi's actually a boy is downright preposterous.
There is a miniwar on the wiki, concerning Nanachi's gender. At one point it referred to Nanachi as xer(I think), now it's they/their, and there are still those who edit the wiki claiming that Nanachi is a male.
http://madeinabyss.wikia.com/wiki/Nanachi?diff=prev&oldid=2094
http://madeinabyss.wikia.com/wiki/Nanachi
>Ctrl+F their 1 of 20 matches
No.754155
>>754154
>xer
xat can be xolved with a bit of xas
No.754156
>>754154
Oh and here is a small example of the type of discussion Nanachi's page has.
No.754186
>>754156
>first comment
Is this nigger serious, or just joking?
No.754188
>>754116
I know I've pissed on myself while drunk before because my sweaty dick was sticking to my thigh while flaccid, so it's possible.
Also the same is more or less true of a vagina in that specific stance he's in, faggot.
No.754190
Now now, let's not talk about that wiki. It's full of normalfags and therefore shit anyways. Let's rather keep the discussion about lolis and shotas pissing, that is at least MiA related.
No.754199
>>754188
She's not lying to one side, you know. Just how sweaty do you have to be for your dick to stick to your thigh when you're in an upright position/ lying on your back, and not lying to one side.
Also
>literally bragging about pissing himself.
Faggot.
No.754292
>>754287
Exploring the first 2 layers was boring too, in my opinion. This show focuses on muh feels way too much and not enough on making the layers interesting, which is exactly why Orby and dealing with Orby was the best part of the entire show so far. If you absolutely HAVE to make the entire show gravitate around muh feelings, then the Mitty stuff is the bare minimum to create an impact anymore.
No.754337
>>754116
>Even when your dick is completely flaccid, it stands at an angle
This is especially true for kids, because it's so tiny it doesn't hang down at all.
In any case, I'm going with Occam's Razor, here. There's a whole bunch of myriad and convoluted reasons how Maruruk could be a boy and the pee could be made to be dripping down his legs instead of shooting out (chastity cage?); but there is no explanation required for where the pee is going (and why Maruruk has budding breasts) if she's a girl. So girl it is, until proven otherwise.
I kinda see MiA as Reg being the MC in an utterly-absurd and completely-fucked-up harem anime, so every other character should be a girl, just because it's more funny that way.
No.754361
>>753869
Nanachi has feminine features and curves.
You probably can't even tell a male dog from a female dog can you?
No.754413
>>754361
Yet she is canonically ambiguous by Word of God. This is anime; features and curves have no meaning.
As for dogs, there is zero sexual dimorphism, compared to humans where it is significant, so that's not a very good comparison. Dogs tell each other apart based on smell.
No.754547
I finally marathoned the series. I'd been putting it off because while the art style, setting and story all appealed to me I had this horrible gut feeling "This isn't going to be a bright, cheerful series. This is going to be one of those shows where horrific things happen to cute characters, isn't it?" I was right about everything I expected.
What attracted me to it was how much it reminded me of the Mega Man Legends games, god I love those games. It's pretty clear that's where the author took at least some of the inspiration. Cheerful robot boy who blasts energy from his hands explores ancient underground dungeons while guided by a blonde girl with green eyes.
I absolutely adore Reg. His personality is so sweet the whole series through.
No.754911
>>753465
Pitou is a qt cat grill and nothing you say will convince me otherwise.
No.755181
>>754156
>first comment
does he dissuades himself halfway through?
No.755192
>>755181
Seems like he was trying to find "prove" for both sides of the argument. Too bad his english is even worse than mine.
No.755239
>>755181
I think he just learned the For and Against Essay and tried to apply that in his posts.
No.755245
Why is Nanachi always so smug? She has nothing to be smug about! Though to be honest I like it
No.755257
>>754413
Nanachi is definitely a girl though, notice how she isn't awkward at all like a boy would be when putting the suppository in Riko? Or how she is fine with Riko touching her but says Reg rubing her is too lewd? Girls are fine with other girls' bodies and contact but uncomfortable with boys. The mangaka is just fuckijg with everyone by saying her sex is ambiguous
No.755258
>>755257
It makes sense that the suppository doesn't phase Nanachi because of all the medical and scientific experiments they did for Bone Daddy which surely included both boys and girls. But they're not used to being touched in any way except by Mitty, who of course was obviously a girl.
Also, Reg IS lewd (whether he means to be or not) while Riko seems incapable.
No.755260
>>755245
She's smug to cope.
No.755265
>>755245
Why, anon! Isn't her smugness something to be smug about? If I achieved her level of smugness, I'd be smug about it too.
No.755277
>>755258
Reg is only lewd towards girls, that's why he didn't react to marulk but he does to Nanachi and Riko. But even if the suppository thing is because of the medical shit, she still strips and is fine with contact with Riko whereas she feels awkward around Reg.
>>755260
Good point
No.755388
Nanachi wouldn't let Reg to sniff her chest if she wasn't a girl. I also trust Reg's trap smelling chinchi.
Related Nanachi audio porn
No.755398
>>755388
>inside the pants
>smells totally good
No.755399
>>755388
Where does that image come from? I read the manga and I've never seen either that pic nor the one with Marulk tied up naked before.
Have another smug Nanachi, most anime girls can only begin to wish to be as smug as Nanachi
her smugness is making me like Kemono
No.755401
File: 5f2864d6dcb528a⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 3.67 MB, 2102x3000, 1051:1500, Made in Abyss - c001 (v01)….jpg)
File: a5241260ec73336⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 1.49 MB, 2350x1600, 47:32, Made in Abyss - c017 (v03)….jpg)
File: 7a16b90b4b643de⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 669.92 KB, 1128x1600, 141:200, Made in Abyss - c032 (v04)….png)
File: 825b667488cc899⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 1.58 MB, 2256x1600, 141:100, Made in Abyss - c033 (v05)….png)
File: 76606457e58ee63⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 375.6 KB, 1128x1600, 141:200, Made in Abyss - e042 (mix)….jpg)
>>755399
They're volume extras. Marulk was volume 2, and the Nanachi smell was volume 5.
Most of them feature boobs, but some feature other things like crossdressing Reg, or worldbuilding and relic descriptions.
No.755406
>>755401
Shit I guess the files I had didn't include them for some reason, I feel like I missed out now
No.755417
>>755401
Those are some top-tier titties, why is this guy not on sadpanda?
No.755430
>>755388
Now I have an intense craving to sniff her. Too bad she probably won't let me because the way I do it is too lewd.
No.755431
>>755399
Were you reading a used copy?
The pages might have been stuck together...
No.755444
>>755417
The best lewd is the scarce, tasteful kind in an otherwise non-pornographic work. It's enhanced by your pre-existing love of the characters, it's drawn by good artists who are perfectly capable of drawing pages of nudity, but don't because they have respect for themselves and their work, and it leaves you wanting more but not starved. Hentai doujins are for gluttons.
No.755445
>>755444
What is your opinion on Tsugumomo?
No.755450
>>755445
Haven't read it. Is there a scene a decent length into it where the MC has a beautiful love scene where all of the accumulated emotions from the series thus far are released, accompanied by well-drawn lewds of the act?
No.755452
>>755450
Not him but it is one of the rare cases in which there's tons of actual lewd in the manga and it is still all pretty great. The artist is just really good at this.
No.755456
>>755401
>I'll be fluffy too
No.755457
>>755456
<"Oh yes. They're fluffy, Prushka. They're fluffy. And when you’re down here with me, you’ll be fluffy too!”
No.755462
>>755431
>stuck together
I wish I had physical copies to get sticky
>>755457
And >>750490 this fag has the audacity to say bonedrewd did nothing wrong
No.755463
>>755462
Forgot to post more smug
No.755583
>>755457
Should have been Reg, considering Bondrewd ACTUALLY DID RIP HIS FUCKING ARM OFF.
It would have been a vastly different, and much shorter, story if Georgie had then absorbed all the electricity of Derry, turned Super Saiyan, and beat the shit out of It all by himself, leaving the members of the Delvers Club standing around scratching their heads and wondering what they should do now.
You can't go outside, Maruruk, your eyes are TOO SENSITIVE! What if you get SICK?
No.756314
>>755388
>Inside the pants smells totally good
How the hell did he ever get to sniff there?
Also: I've never wanted to rub a fictional belly as much as Nanachi's.
I NEED IT
No.756319
how have we been waiting since july?
when the fuck do we get 43?
No.756323
>>756314
Do not kinda lewd the Nanachi.
No.756420
>>756314
He washed her clothes, probably multiple times.
>>756319
He wanted advice on how to create better traps, and so asked Togashi. They've been doing nothing but playing DQ for the last four months.
No.756433
I stitched together a map from the end portions of a few episodes, I could probably clean it more but I'm lazy.
No.756509
>>755401
>Lewding the sympathetic characters you brutally killed off in your manga
I wish I could feel anything but despair.
No.756602
>hyped as the next big anime
>will probably fizzle out quicker than Amaama to Inazuma and Dragon Maid because seasonal garbage eaters have no real sense of taste
No.756605
>>754154
Wikifags are abysmal gay autists though, and actual pedos with shit taste who hate fun.
>>754155
>>754156
That's why you don't trust wikis.
No.756614
>>756597
>4archive
DELETE THIS
No.756629
>>756614
Clean up the scans and post translations here then nerd
No.756632
>>756597
So we've been gone for how long and all we got was Riko taking A SHIT, Riko getting stripped by eldritch horrors in a gang-rapey way, and vague cliffhangers. Was it the mangaka or the TLs who aren't releasing? Because I get the impression that the mangaka released this as fluff to say "see? I'm still releasing, see?"
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No.756633
>>756614
I'd typically agree, but see >>756629
Halfchan has stolen enough of our content/claimed it as their own that I don't mind stealing from them occasionally such as in this situation.
No.756636
>>756632
mangaka AFAIK, there was suppose to be a release in Oct but they apologized near Halloween saying they're wouldn't be one. I'd hope its just because working on the anime takes time away from the manga but who knows, maybe we'll get one more by the end of the year.
No.756679
So, will we get to see PAPA'S ROD in season 2?
No.756691
Was Lyza voiced by donut vampire?
I kind of really hate Riko's personality, she learns all kinds of practical diggy stuff but then never learns from experiences.
>riko, wait right there and don't move until I wake up in two hours
>okay!
>...
>...
>we gotta get the fuck out of here
Show was pretty great though, love the world concept and the artstyle.
Going to delve into the next layer of manga.
I expect nothing but despair.
No.756692
>>756691
>>riko, wait right there and don't move until I wake up in two hours
>>okay!
>>we gotta get the fuck out of here
To be fair that episode was anime-original.
No.756696
>>756691
It was a shitty thing for her to do, but it's not like she immediately said "Lol fuck you Reg I'm going", she said she was hungry and probably went to try and find one of those bunny things to cook up and eat, she mentioned they had good meat. Then all the other shit happened and it became a mess.
No.757045
Just finished the animu.
Fuck this show.
I love it, but fuck this show, I'm devastated right now, I'm crying like a total fag and I'm legit scared of reading the manga.
No.757050
>>757045
Mitty died for your sins.
No.757055
File: 94b7b9b5e52321b⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 624.62 KB, 1025x665, 205:133, 35ac2d2a9b4370b268364b18fc….png)
>>757045
It gets worse before it gets better anon.
No.757110
>>757050
It wouldn't be as bad if she had just died during the experiment, it was way worse than a simple death.
No.757554
Can someone explain to me how Ozen, a white whistle, managed to make it back up to layer 2?
No.757555
>>757554
It's assumed that every White Whistle has a variety of methods/artifacts to dispel the Curse, or at least minimize it. Ozen, with her pins, might have just brute-forced the deal and survived the effects through sheer force of willpower.
No.757576
>>757055
Yeah, that whole arc was uniquely overwhelming.. God Damn. We were warned about Bonedrewed repeatedly and we still weren't ready.
No.757586
>>757580
Looks like
>Heehonhohehohaie putatsu
>honhoruho
No.757614
>>757554
Ozen explained in passing that traveling through the Abyss and undergoing the "loss of humanity" caused deformations in her scalp, which is why she styles her hair that way. Don't know how they handled it in the Anime, but in the Manga, Ozen's body seems to have a certain malleability to it, changing and growing to fit her mood.
It's not been well explained, but for some of the White Whistles, it seems like it's a one way trip. They are revered for their skills and abilities, and the treasures they wield may grant them a certain amount of immunity to the curse, but once they go far enough down, that's it. There's no going back up.
Maybe it will make more sense once we meet Srajo and Wakuna, but their descent past the 5th layer into the 6th was regarded as their "Last Dive" meaning that most White Whistles seem to fuck around in the 5th layer and slowly come and go for a while, trying to find the really good Artifacts before they fuck off forever, hopefully finding some means of ending the curse of the Abyss.
No.757625
>>757614
>in the Manga, Ozen's body seems to have a certain malleability to it, changing and growing to fit her mood
Yeah, once you become a White Whistle, you aren't really fully human anymore. Bone Daddy takes it to the logical extreme, but there are elements in this sort of thing in everyone. I can only hope Riko actually does meet her mother someday so she can be completely mindbroken by seeing what kind of eldritch abomination Lyza has transformed into.
That is, of course, assuming she didn't just implant her soul into that cute robot boy she ran into.
No.757645
>>757580
>>757586
It's a reference to this thing, an item Japanese McDonalds sold for a limited time. I think the name comes from Korean or Chinese or something but the way it's written with kana is "Heehonhohehohai". Apparently it became kind of a meme because nobody knew how to fucking say it and the people at the registers had no idea what the fuck the customers wanted.
No.757647
>>757645
Nevermind, apparently the name comes from "Bacon potato pie", but being said as if you just stuck something really hot in your mouth and couldn't enunciate it properly.
No.757655
>>757614
For all of the white whistles it seems to be a one way trip, is it ever implied that any of the white whistles made it back up from the 6th layer? (Aside of worst dad of course but I'll get to that in a second)
Ozen kept saying that past the 6th layer is a one way trip, her scars on her head don't seem to be a reaction to the 6th layers curse but the 5th layer's. A part of the 5th layer's curse is self harming and hallucinations. Which is why I think that its likelier that in one of Ozen's early dives to the 5th layer she inflicted massive injuries to her head on herself. Which require the weird hair to cover it up In the flashback with Lyza when explaining it she says deep within it the abyss creeps into your mind, eventually it gets your body as well. You can interpret this as her describing the 5th then 6th layers' curses or you can read it as the creeping into the mind part causing the phyisical part as well.
With Worst Dad it seems like in his fight with Reg that's the first time he goes down to the 6th layer. After he comes back up and recieves the blessing he says something along the lines of "so this is the blessing" or something to that effect. Implying that he's never experienced it before. Why else would he be experimenting so much and turning so many kids into narihates if he didn't yet have a guarenteed way of defeating the 6th layer's curse. That was the whole point of that. Even he calls a trip to the 6th later the last dive. I'm positive that the 5th layer is as far as white whistles go until they eventually get bored and yearn to see the 6th layer.
>>757625
>>757614
I think Ozen's maleability is more of an artistic representation of her intimidating presence and the fluidity in the way she moves. Not an actual phyisical trait
No.757779
>>757625
>so she can be completely mindbroken by seeing what kind of eldritch abomination Lyza has transformed into.
The current understanding of the situation is that Lyza is on her Last Dive and she's just been heading straight down ever since she was last seen. As far as we can guess, she may have encountered Reg and sent him back up with some of her belongings while she took care of... whatever the fuck is at the bottom of the Abyss
No.757792
>>757625
>That is, of course, assuming she didn't just implant her soul into that cute robot boy she ran into.
I Can't Believe My Robot Boyfriend Is My Mom!
No.757801
>>757792
I can't believe my mom got a boner while helping me bathe!
No.757814
>>757801
I can't believe I a ruler up my mom's ass
But if this theory is right, then how does Faputa fit in?
No.757913
>>757645
>Heehonhohehohai
That makes me think of Dekapan.
No.758008
The doujins write themselves.
Up on madokami.
No.758023
>that chapter 43 end
place your bets for 44
No.758032
>>758023
Is the weird smells dude implying to Nanachi that Mitty is still alive? Or is the end to 43 meant to imply that he's showing her an illusion to bring her peace? Also I bet we're about to finally find out something concrete about the true nature of Reg. Faputa clearly knows him, which means that he may be native to the 6th layer.
No.758044
>>758008
When toilets look like that in the abyss, can you really blame her for wetting herself so often?
No.758068
>>758008
The author's obsession with excrement is the only part of this series I really don't like.
>>758023
>>758032
Several possibilities exist for the Mitty we've seen. The first being that it is the real Mitty and Reg's Incinerator doesn't work the way we think it does. Majikajya had no reason or way to know who Mitty was... Unless the town and the whole "value" thing gives long-time occupants the ability to discern what people value by peering into their minds. Meaning the second option is that it's some illusory version of mitty created by the town to trap you with your own desires. Nanachi did warn that the lower layers were completely full of beasts that could read thoughts/intent, after all.
No.758076
>>757913
DAYOOOOOOON
>>758068
There's also the secret 3rd option: Reg completely disintegrating Mitty did not kill her, but only destroyed the device Bondrewd was using to monitor her life signs. If this is true then it could lead to two interesting possibilities: 1. complete incineration "purified" Mitty and she reforms into the blessed Mitty we see in >>755401. If this is the case then she could follow our heros and eventually catch up to them for a fun reveal. Alternatively, she simply reforms in her old state or some new form and is waiting for Nanachi to return at the old hut, giving Nanachi a reason for wanting to return from the bottom of the Abyss. This came to mind because I feel that a "return from the Abyss" arc is inevitable, and each character will probably have their own reasons for wanting to return.
No.758083
>>758076
I think they are hinting at a return to the surface with the stuff that's been going on with the Birthday Death sickness that's getting worse and worse. They even implied that the piles of Praying Skeletons are related to the same disease, and that said disease is tied to the Abyss in some way. Given all the technological wonders in the Abyss, it seems some previously advanced civilization lived there and was killed or swallowed by the Abyss and whatever caused that is happening again.
No.758100
>>758083
I can totally see the town suddenly being sucked into the abyss, especially as some of the characters remarked about it and said that maybe the abyss is getting bigger.
No.758126
>>758023
Do you or anyone else have the scanlations for the newest chaotwr? I can't seem to find them
No.758127
>>758126
>chaotwr
Wow I had a stroke there, chapter
No.758133
>>755401
Is akihito a pedophile?
No.758134
it seems like everyone thinks that Mitty is dead. but what if mitty was similar to a planaria and she was already divided in two by Bondrewd? so the one we know has been burnt and the other is there?
No.758150
>>758133
Just let it happen, Kazuma.
No.758228
No.758232
>>758134
>have sad moment
>ruin it by backtracking hard
I'd hate it, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happens since it happens a lot in seinen manga, especially the ones popular with normalfags.
No.758234
>>758008
Lewd bio-architecture is my fetish.
No.758276
>>758008
I wouldn't mind a toilet that gently cleaned twelve inches deep.
>>758228
These are the raws, dude...
No.758393
File: 2b30f907402e504⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 577.54 KB, 1018x728, 509:364, 4a3ceff12c3bc56409fe079ae3….png)
She has the strength of thousands of men.
Would you let your pelvis take the risk?
No.758398
File: 83c96757eb0a8f6⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 425.5 KB, 850x1202, 425:601, sample_b93d6453ee2ea02c66d….jpg)
>>758393
Personally I expect her body to look more like this.
No.758400
>>758133
It's 2D. What are you implying?
No.758405
>>758398
Wouldn't her neck be a weak spot?
No.758414
>>758405
Do you often support weight with your head?
No.758420
>>758393
>>758398
We don't need pelvic bones where we are going.
No.758423
>>758414
Well her neck can be destroyed be something more than mundane.
No.758434
>>758393
No no no.. You don't understand. She doesn't have the strength of 1,000 men. Each pin grants the strength of 1,000 men and she has 120 of them. She has the strength of 120,000 men.
No.758435
>>758434
Each pin is said to grant that much. Who knows how reliable that is, given how insane that much strength would be, even for the Abyss. She's certainly strong, but a whole city's worth?
Still, it's possible, which is why I left it vague as thousands.
No.758466
>>758435
Ozen is stronger than any single being should be and stopped aging.
Bonedaddy is.. well, he's Bonedaddy
Lyza conceived and birthed a child in the Abyss and then carried it back to the surface in a giant cube and then went right back in and made it to the bottom.
White Whistles are hardcore.
No.758469
>>757814
Faputa just sees inherent worth as the princess of reading it or something. I don't think Reg was always Reg, but Reg has inscribed the name into his soul/made it a part of his value, so Faputa can't tell the difference and doesn't know if he was actually Reg or not beforehand since she was reading his very essence and his essence itself hadn't changed.
>>758032
See my theory above.
>>758398
This captures the granny look quite nicely if only her tits were saggier.
>>758435
Maybe it's the strength of a thousand men like how light works on a logarithmic scale? I mean a fluorescent light tube is ~240 times brighter than a candle and the sun is ~3-4x brighter than a fluorescent tube light on the earth's surface, but because we process light logarithmicly, it's not significantly brighter if you were to "turn each on" in a dark room. Similarly compared to a single man Ozen's strength is 1,000 times as powerful, but compared to 100 men it's only 10 time as powerful.
No.758470
>>758469
Er, that is to say, if Ozen's strength is the equivalency to 120,000 men, then in reality her strength exponentially decays as compared to the number of men her strength is equivalent to similar to how sunlight isn't that much brighter than a well-lit room, but sunlight is much, much brighter compared to a dark room or candle-lit room. You don't process the voices of 100 men as being 100x louder than the voice of 1 men since sound also expands logarithmicly, even though "technically" it's 100x as powerful.
No.758491
What kind of horrible suffering does fate have in store for Maaa-san?
No.758496
So is there a download yet for the translated chapter?
I've got this for the previous chapters. https://mega.nz/#F!T0IBkJJS!729xhyxMo5mOU6XPD-ysgA
No.758513
>>758434
To be completely honest "strength" is a rather meaningless measurement for the amount of power a character has. Take something really simple: a punch. Well, since force equals mass times acceleration, just having stronger muscles doesn't mean you punch harder. That is either a function of the mass of the arm, or the speed of the punch. Given that Ozen doesn't break the floor where she walks, she can't really have any additional mass behind her body, so all that is left is speed. A professional boxer can punch with a speed of about 25-30mph, and you can pretty much half that for an average person; which means that in order to have the "strength" of MERELY 1,000 men, Ozen would be punching with the speed of mach 20. Her fists would be igniting the air in front of them into blinding plasma, and hitting with the force of missiles.
Anyway, how I guessed it, (besides that the "1000 men" thing is an absurd overstatement) was that the pins actually have a deleterious effect on her body and health and so each subsequent pin has a diminishing return over the one before it, as more and more they are compensating for the damage the ones before are causing, rather than adding any additional strength but if she doesn't keep gathering more the ones she already has will kill her. This would fit in with the nature of a lot of the other abyss artifacts, as being double-edged swords.
No.758526
>>758513
But anon, you are forgetting about inner strength/energy/chi/qi. It's a thing that many classic martial artists still believe in, and if it's actually true(it probably is in some degree) we can speculate that the pins increase her inner strength, rather than making her heavier or faster. Plus this is a universe with talking a robot that can shoot lasers out of his hand, so it's not all that preposterous.
No.758561
>>758526
There's so far been zero indication that there is any sort of chi energy in MiA. A robot with laser-hands is a functional application of SCIENCE, nothing more.
Assuming that Idofront has the power capacity of a nuclear power plant and Reg drained the whole fucking thing before the fight with Bondrewd, to replenish his 20 Incinerator shots it means Reg is packing the equivalent of a 25mW military laser. It's not out of therealm of possibility, assuming some radically miniaturized capacitor banks.
No.758674
why didnt protagonists kill Bondrewd completely after the fight?
it doesnt make sense.
No.758676
>>758674
I thought he didn't actually die, just switch bodies.
No.758684
>>758674
I think they assumed that he had no more extra bodies.
No.758687
>>758676
i know that, what i am saying is the other bodies of Bondrewd remain and MC know that well but didnt kill them
No.758692
>>758687
They didn't have another chance to kill him, and they were already at the elevator the 6th layer. They would have had to go out of their way to do it.
>>758561
Why are you assuming the Idofront hs the electrical capacity of a nuclear power plant? Its hydroelectric from a whirlpool
No.758701
>>758692
Are you implying that no hydroelectric power plant could ever hope to compete with nuclear ones?
Given the convenience of a magical giant whirlpool and Bondrewd's knack for SCIENTIFIC TRIUMPH, I'd assume Idofront to have a sizeable output.
No.758707
>>758701
Eh, you're right I just looked it up and the biggest nuclear powerplant outputs 8000 MW while that giant chinese dam outputs 22,000 MW
No.758709
>>758701
>>758707
Forgot to add that even if the idofront isn't gigantic given bonedrewd's SCIENCE then yeah it's probably comparable
No.758713
in the opening lyrics
"If we can find an answer now, I don't mind sacrificing everything."
if it was other animes, i wouldnt feel any impression because it is typical lyrics.
but in this anime, it feels like some kind of premonition that they're gonna be fucked up in the end. in very serious manner.
No.758726
>>758713
I'm fairly sure SOMEONE is going to end up getting sacrificed. Possibly multiple someones. I find it hard to believe this manga will have anything other than a downer ending.
No.758732
>>758726
I mean no matter how you look at it they're not going back up, even if Riko finds Lyza they're not going anywhere
No.758733
>>758491
probably a reveal that it is actually Riko's father, and that he only 'died' in the sense he wasn't himself anymore
No.758736
>>758733
I have been assuming that he was the one that became Lyza's whistle.
No.758743
>>758736
Lyza was a white whistle before he died
No.759098
Tama-chan's sensor is a ballgag.
Normally I wouldn't put two and two together, but with this artist....
No.759100
>>759098
Fuck, only after writing this did I realize it literally drools through the holes.
No.759102
Lyza is an aryan. but is Rico, too?
No.759103
>>759101
Lyza is so Aryan her eyelashes are golden. I think Tourka had brown hair, but he was definitely white at least.
No.759105
>>759103
but Rico is a potato. something wrong must happened.
No.759106
>>759105
She's 12, and neotenic at that. She'll shape up into her mother's daughter as she matures.
No.759285
My favorite part was when mega man euthanized the retarded vegetable baby.
No.759292
>>758726
>I'm fairly sure SOMEONE is going to end up getting sacrificed.
have you read the manga?
No.759350
>>759292
Yes. And I meant particularly someone of the main three.
No.759574
Ok, I got caught up in the manga after finishing the anime. What's the deal with the capital? We got sidetracked by this weird village shit but I'm curious about what this lost civilization is
No.759629
>>759574
My guess is its going full etrian odyssey and they find a rusted out old shibuyu down there and it fell into a giant sinkhole and the worlds oceans rose over time and some fukushima type shit down there is leaking radiation up to the surface.
No.759631
>>759629
>the curse/miracles caused by radiation
No. That would be the absolute worst. I want actual fantasy, not "hurr durr man is the monster, nuclear is so scary" godzilla pseudo-science. It has its place, and it's not here.
No.759632
>>759631
>It has its place, and it's not here.
You can dislike it all you want but its something in a huge sink in the ocean that makes people sick and even corrupts their biology as they near the core of it. You don't want it to be radiation but the writers dont care what the reader wants and it looks more plausible than magic.
No.759633
>>759632
>but the writers dont care what the reader wants and it looks more plausible than magic.
Nothing in this series has been plausible so far. And if you want shit to make sense, "radiation that is harmless no matter how close you get to it, UNTIL you try to move farther away" makes even less sense than magic. If your story/world is pure fantasy, you can make whatever rules you want and as long as the events in your story don't contradict each other or the rules you made, the reader will believe it. But if you bring in something that exists in real life, people will expect the rules that thing follows IRL to apply here too.
No.759637
>>759633
Thats can easily be two different things. The mutations can be written off as a field of radiation with varying intensities and the bleeding out and hallucinations when ascending can just be extreme pressure shifts in the human body like deep sea divers or mountain climbers. There is no reason for anything to be straight magic in this series when it could be just 'futuretech so advanced that 4000 years after two societal collapses its regarded as magic'. Even the birthday disease could just be a disease that targets post toddler aged children.
No.759640
>>759637
Pressure problems from divers going really deep is due to the pressure of the water. It'd be different if you were still surrounded by air. How different, who the fuck knows?
No.759642
>>759640
It'd be about the same as flying in an airplane, but down instead of up. If you descend too quickly, you might get some light ear popping.
No.759657
>>759629
>>759631
>>759632
>>759633
>>759637
>>759640
>>759642
>Technology vs. magic
I'd like to point out that any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. The lost civilization has been shown to have been extremely advanced, so essentially the author can still do whatever he wants and pass it off as advanced technology. It's kinda like Star Wars, as dumb as that sounds, where a lot of the tech in there is absolutely impossible with actual science, but it's supposed to be super duper advanced so it can still be passed off as technology rather than magic. Also, we are excluding the possibility of magic AS technology here. We have seen the surface tech and it definitely doesn't look like ours, which means that this world may function under slightly different laws where certain things we would see as magic are entirely practical and scientific to them.
>It'd be different if you were still surrounded by air.
Actually no, decompression sickness would still occur if you tried to ascend extremely rapidly in a hypothetical giant hole, however it would take a lot more depth than in the ocean to achieve the same results. Water is a helluva lot more dense than our normal atmosphere. This is why, in real life, spacecraft reuse it rather than lug around huge water tanks along with LOX and LN2 tanks for breathing. It doesn't matter what medium you're in, simply the pressure and how quickly it changes. Alexei Leonov got decompression sickness when he vented his EVA suit in orbit (which was a legitimately good idea at the time I swear), so you definitely don't need water for that.
No.759675
>>759637
And kills them on their birthday? And goes away the minute they leave the island?
No.759678
>>759632
That's because it's a black hole down there sucking everything down, which is why when you get near you experience time-dilation, and when you move away from it your body gets adversely affected by the gravitation field differences, which fucks up the brain causing nausea, hallucinations, or even complete mushification (to use the proper scientific term) of the body.
There still hasn't been any further mention of the birthday sickness or what causes it. It's almost as if it's been forgotten.
No.759691
>>759678
How do they even know it's a maelstrom at the 7th level? How do they even know about the city if no one can come back up from the 6th level?
No.759696
>>759691
Whites sending up balloons over the years got some info up.
No.759747
>>759675
This reminded me of a Forensic Files episode where toddlers were dying from mold growing in their lungs. I think it was possible to treat cases as long as they didn't go back to the mold infested houses, but I'm not sure. The only solution I can think of for this mystery disease becoming immediately fatal on a specific date is because it's an 'intelligent' virus that operates on the hosts biological clock or some shit.
>>759678
That's a fun theory, especially since people have played with the idea of using black holes in generators before. So the abyss could have been the result of a containment field collapse, and whatever energies from that field might have an adverse effect on biology. The only thing is that gravity doesn't really explain the layers that Nanachi can see, or why they seem to disappear the further you are from the Abyss.
Ultimately though, I think it would be better if the 'Magic vs Technology' debate was left unresolved, as it has been so far, if only so we can jerk off to our shitty theories.
No.759756
>>759657
>Decompression sickness would still happen if you ascended really quickly surrounded by air
>Your evidence is an astronaut venting his suit in orbit where there is zero atmosphere
No.759758
>>759678
The manga clearly explains that the 'curse' of the Abyss is a naturally occurring force field, of sorts, which naturally draws light and moisture and life giving energy down into the lower layers of the Abyss to nurture the life within it. It's definitely more on the magical side, as it reacts to thought and intent, as evidence by the way the curse manifests and how it can be circumvented through especially strong desires... or even human shielding.
No.759771
>>756597
>>756614
>>756633
https://imgur.com/a/TB2Xt
Unless someone wants to do >>756629 you're stuck with this. I'm not posting the images because I'd rather wait for someone to upload something better, and partially because I'm lazy. Also a redditor did it.
No.759778
>>759758
Well, the thing is Bondrewd's methods of using human cartridges to absorb curse effects are entirely based on science. That's kind of his thing.
As for the rest, gravity bends light, so... yeah. The entire tone of the series is more science fiction than science fantasy; less Star Wars and more Star Trek. That may change in the future, as either Srajo or Wakuna may be more like mages whereas Bondrewd is a scientist, but as of now there is no evidence of "magic" in the abyss. "Supernatural" things, sure, but that just means "that which science doesn't (yet) understand".
No.759801
>>759778
How about a pickaxe that has infinite gunpowder, isn't that magic?
No.759840
>>759801
To be precise to the point of being pedantic, the pick didn't have infinite gunpowder; Lyza added the gunpowder to it, transforming it into a WEAPON, because that's just the kind of person she is. I suppose willful violation of Conservation of Mass is a bit magical, though there are ways around this (some kind of teleportation? it's not actually gunpowder?)
Just as an aside, I would utterly cream myself if Man at Arms forged a replica of the Blaze Reap. Too bad they only make stuff from normalfag anime.
No.759855
>>759840
>>759801
Unless they've taken the time to dismantle the pick and examine Peace Phobia, we can't be sure it's actually an infinite source of gunpowder rather than something that is producing a similar reaction, or alternatively a portal to the plane that is in a constant state of exploding. Also, was it that Lyza added an artifact to a pick in order to make it a weapon, or was it that she uses the pick that had an artifact attached to it as a weapon?
No.759872
>>759778
You don't seem to understand what science is.
No.759876
>>759756
the problem is that there aren't any holes deep enough or any method of ascent in a hole fast enough to cause it currently, so as far as I know there really isn't a more applicable example than that. I've heard that some pilots have gotten it while ascending rapidly in unpressurized aircraft, but that's about it. I use that example because it shows that all you need is a rapid pressure change. Also because it's a cool story on it's own, arguably the coolest individual story of the Soviet space program.
No.759892
>>759840
I do prop making stuff on occasion and I kind of want to build Blaze Reap just for fun.
No.759901
Do we have any word if the Blu-Rays will have improved animation? There were a few rough spots I'd really like to see touched up.
No.759906
>My black hole theory is catching on
>>758726
I'm fairly content in calling the central theme of Made in Abyss to be, "Define Acceptable Losses". Absolutely every interaction is colored by a character sacrificing. Lyza left Riko for the bell. Riko left her world for her mother. Maruruk disobeyed orders and was punished for trying to help, and was even called out as having done the right thing for it by his punisher, and the main two then left him to continue. Riko tells Reg to make the most painful possible amputation in the hopes of retaining at least a stump below the elbow. Nanachi's experiment was playing with the mitigation of loss to render out and obtain the gain. BestDad's entire schtick is making others pay for his gain, in various ways: he inverts the trope and is the villain for it. Nanachi had to give up all hope of regaining her best friend to allow them both to continue on, somewhere or another. The White Whistles themselves are obtained by sacrifice. AnCap Village as a whole is a literal metaphysical manifestation of the trading of value.
The ultimate question of the Abyss is, "What are you willing to lose to keep moving forward?" I hope I don't have to point out how an overbearing reality, both in theme and practically, is that there is no going back. Keep pushing forward, through anything.
>>759855
I think it was mentioned that it was always intended to explode, but it was designed to use single-use gunpowder charges and it was intended for use on cavern walls. Lyza went full playercharacterplans.jpg and put the unlimited explosive in it and started hitting monsters with it instead. Or maybe she was already hitting things with the single use charges and later upgraded to Peace Phobia.
>>759872
Science is an approach of empirical observation and repeatable results to better understand the world. Magic can in fact be science, if its laws can be decoded.
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>>759892
Its collapsing function, general organic-on-metal look, and color scheme always reminds me of weapons from Phantasy Star Online.
No.759910
>>759906
>My black hole theory is catching on
Which I don't even understand why since a black hole only a couple millimeters long would be enough to absorb the entire solar system into it. I don't even understand how a black hole theory works for the abyss. Shit, a Kugelblitz would make more sense and that would require about 1/10th of the light produced during the big bang great stretch-expansion to even form.
No.759912
>>759910
>Kugelblitz
That is an awesome phenomenon I didn't know the name for. Thank you.
Also, I doubt it's a literal black hole. There is definitely something 'wrong', not just dangerous about it. It produces reliable patterns of instantaneous mutation, for one. Even if you could get near enough to a black hole to be irradiated by it, it's not going to turn you furry and grow you a tail. You'll just die from spectacular cancer formation and possibly just immolate.
Whatever's down there is definitely sucking in everything it can get, but last I checked black holes don't create semi-gaseous spiritual mediums through which monsters can see the future and dying lolis can contact eachother through fever dreams. There's got to be some kind of collective unconscious thing going on at minimum, if it's not a full blown soul network like the Lifestream or something.
No.759913
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>>759840
Pretty sure she mixed the infinite gunpowder tool with the peace phobia tool to create it, or something along those lines.
>>759855
>Portal to another plane
I hate posting these faggots, but this vid is relevant.
No.759914
>>759910
>a black hole only a couple millimeters long would be enough to absorb the entire solar system into it
A black hole with an event horizon a few millimetres in radius would only have a mass comparable to the Earth. If one magically appeared in the centre of the Earth, an observer on Mars would barely notice.
It wouldn't work as an explanation for the Abyss anyway, since a black hole's gravity is still just gravity. The scaling doesn't work to have the time dilation we see in lower layers while not having anything noticeable on the surface. And then there's the fact that people in the Abyss don't feel dramatically heavier as they descend, which is such an obvious disqualifier I'm surprised this theory came up at all.
A "Kugelblitz" has exactly the same problems and even less to recommend it, since at least we observe black holes to exist in the real universe.
>>759912
>Even if you could get near enough to a black hole to be irradiated by it, it's not going to turn you furry and grow you a tail. You'll just die from spectacular cancer formation and possibly just immolate.
Black holes don't produce radiation like that. That's part of what makes them black. No, Hawking radiation is not relevant.
What does produce plenty of radiation near black holes is accretion, but if you had enough matter accreting for it to be noticeable, there wouldn't be a planet left for very long.
No.760039
>>750544
It’s explicitly stated that White Whistles mostly just bum around in the fifth layer to build up their training and armory, all of them except Lyza spend years working up the nerve to go to sixth, which is their “Last Delve” because none of them have ever been seen again after taking the plunge.
No.760047
>>753069
It’s fucking Hange Zoe all over again; the character is clearly designed (and even voiced) female, there is no confusion or questioning of her sex by others in-universe, but one blind faggot can’t tell without being explicitly told by Word of God and then the worthless fucking gook decides, blatantly on the spot, that “it’s a secret!” Are they trolling? Do they think it’s their fault not making them obviously feminine enough and are trying to cover for their perceived artistic shortcoming? Is it some kind of virtue-signaling trend? All this does is draw in the Western SJWs and the /d/-fags in droves to shit up the discussion of that specific character forever after, I am sick and fucking tired of this horseshit.
No.760083
>>760047
Mangaka is probably just fucking with people, Nips can have a sense of humor too, if I drew an overtly female character and people started asking me if they were female I'd probably get a kick out of letting them wallow in their stupidity too.
No.760114
>>759632
>huge sink in the ocean that makes people sick and even corrupts their biology as they near the core of it
No, nuclear radiation won't turn you into a furry, even if you're lucky, nor can it make eternal life, unless you believe cancer can be symbiotic. If you look at the Abyss map, you can see the magic is more eldritch in origin, and the force field is more akin to a Junji Ito style trap than modern science.
>some fukushima type shit down there is leaking radiation up to the surface.
Nuclear radiation/leukemia can't kill you on your birthday every time, nor does it go away the moment you step off.
There's one thing to be inspired by nuclear fallout, and another to become another Fallout clone.
No.760215
>>759906
>Magic can in fact be science, if its laws can be decoded
Exactly this. The thing that makes magic be magic, narratively speaking, is that nobody understands what they are doing. They have a magic wand, they recite the spell, and stuff happens. They don't know how the wand works; they don't know what the spell is for or how it affects things; they don't even know where the "energy" that powers the magic even COMES FROM. They just know that it works. A big part of magic is tapping into energy from some great beyond using symbols or objects or phrases that don't actually TOUCH the source.
In a sci-fi setting, there are explanations for things and people understand them. They may be able to do "magical" things like teleport, but there are at least attempts to recognize the fundamental laws of physics involved with this. If there is some vast energy being tapped to power these reactions, it will be firmly grounded by actual physical objects. Star Trek does have a supernatural power source in dilithium, but in order to use it they have to mine it, refine it, and put it inside a complicated nuclear-reactor-esque machine.
But there can still be overlap, especially in anime that don't adhere to "genre" as much as Western media does. FullMetal Alchemist is a good example of a series that PRESENTS itself as based around science, but is actually more like magic. Except for a bare few, the alchemists don't know how anything works. They know how to draw the circles, and they know that it makes stuff happen. But they don't know what the circles are for, and they certainly don't know where the energy powering transmutations comes from. There doesn't seem to be much of an attempt to understand it, either, because people who dig too deeply (for example human transmutation or philosopher stones) tend to have REALLY BAD SHIT happen to them.
But as for MiA, it's more science because Bondrewd uses machines and objects to experiment with the Curse of the Abyss. It would have been more magic if he'd sat Mitty and Nanachi onto some kind of fancy alter with arcane symbols written on it, and started the test by reciting a phrase in some dead language. But he didn't do that, he used an elevator with some tubes and wires. We might not know how the Curse works, but HE certainly does.
No.760353
>>760215
>Star Trek does have a supernatural power source in dilithium
Dilithium isn't a power source.
The actual power comes from matter-antimatter reactions, and in Trek lore dilithium doesn't react with antimatter like most matter does because of a peculiarity in its crystal structure, so it's used as a flow regulator and containment system.
No.760440
>>760353
You know, I REALLY don't care.
No.760462
>>760215
Just because he is using scientific processes to try figure out the abyss doesn't make it any less magical in nature, easily when he can't figure out what happens because of the reactions but figures out ways to avoid the curse instead.
Its most likely spiritual/soul powered with all the references to the souls of divers staying or returning too the abyss, dying on the birthday and the part with mitty and riko
No.760499
>>760489
How can you be such a big fag that you'd discard a good manga/anime because its about kids?
No.760587
>>758023
Considering MiA is taking a fucking lovecraft approach, I can assure with almost total certainty that the nare-hate recreated mity using Nanachi's memories so she wants to stay there, so they can use her as money.
No.760649
I wanna hug this white whistle.
No.761159
>>759657
>I'd like to point out that any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Is that the level you operate on? There's not an independent thought or idea in that post. I'm not looking for a unique idea, I'd just like to have a conversation with someone who doesn't just regurgitate talking points.
No.761446
>>760047
>>760083
This exactly. The author couldn't keep himself from telling Maruruk's "mystery" out loud, who would think he would manage to keep nanachi's sex a secret on purpose.
No.761867
HOLY FUCK
I didn't know a new chapter came out. This is not looking good for our crew. Anyway what's the release schedule now? I finished reading when he put it on hold for the anime so I don't know the normal schedule. How many tentacle rape doujins are gonna come from that part where riko gets saved by maa-san?
No.762259
when would a prushka figure come out?
i wanna buy one.........
in box shape....
No.762463
>>762259
>Authentic Prushka figurine, mint condition in special cartridge-shaped box.
>Warning: opening the box and ta— spilling out the contents will void warranty.
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