No.742719
Just got back from seeing No Game No Life Zero at my local theater at a Fathom Event. Did anyone else go see it? How did you like it?
I think I enjoyed the story in general as an origin to the NGNL universe, but they couldn't really pace Schwi/Shuvi's character progression well. I did find the ending very satisfying though.
No.742723
Go read the LN.
>You will never Shuvi
It still hurts.
No.742735
>>742719
>at my local theater at a Fathom Event.
No.742744
>>742735
Couldn't wait for BD rips. Sorry ;_; I endured the masses.
No.742758
>>742719
Too bad NGNL is shit. It is the epitome of otaku pandering garbage.
No.742767
>>742758
I thought NGNL was a subpar generic loli/imouto fanservice anime when it aired but after this shitacular year I admit I have strong anticipation for the BD.
No.746640
>>742767
>>742758
Agreed with both. I hated the main characters so, so very much. During the last episode I started wondering about killing myself because it made me feel just plain hateful of everything. Yet I know that in spite of that, it could have been even worse than it already was.
But it was disappointing as shit that the finale was fucking Gal Gun. The games themselves were the only true entertainment factor, if only for seeing how batshit crazy they could become as they unfolded, until the protagonists made up enough rules for them to fuck to propel themselves to victory.
No.747201
I went to see the film in the cinema while on holiday in Japan. I fell asleep, and two of my friends drank half a bottle of whisky between them and started vomiting everywhere (fucking lightweights).
3/10.
No.747211
>>742767
It is and it's also my guilty pleasure.
No.747234
Sure is a lot of reddit and 4cuck faggotry in this thread.
No.747343
>>746640
>The games themselves were the only true entertainment factor, if only for seeing how batshit crazy they could become as they unfolded, until the protagonists made up enough rules for them to fuck to propel themselves to victory.
I knew the anime was shit after watching the magic chess episode.
No.747351
>>742719
I thought the movie was pretty decent. Lineup was fuckhuge and everyone in the theatre laughed at every joke that was thrown at them. Can't say it was anything special but I went in with little to no expectations and left fairly satisfied with what I saw.
No.747409
>>747343
The magic chess was when I realized this wasn't going to be a smart show about game theory and strategy, it was just going to be making up bullshit. And it was. After that it was just me nodding along to the ridiculousness until it was over. Like a lot of anime, the premise had a lot of potential, but potential doesn't mean anything.
No.747675
>>747409
Retards really liked that episode even if it is Yu-Gi-Oh! tier strategy.
>Oh! We are going to play magic chess which like regular chess except nobody is going to ask or explain the difference of the rules.
<I guess that means there aren't any rules in this magic game made by supposedly non-magic numans.
>What do you mean? The game is governed by our unquantifiable charisma which isn't completely rigged against you even if that is so easy to do. (How does he see through this facade that can only trick someone with a brain of the size of a walnut?)
<Disgusting NEET speech.
>(I must super cheat.)
<Suddenly, the rules matter when it goes on my favor. Also, it is never implied to exist until now.
Everything in this series glorifying the otaku lifestyle.
No.747699
I expected fantasy Kaiji and I got trash instead.
I think there's a fairly big market for "smart protagonist is really good at games" anime and it's not being tapped for whatever reason. And the attempts we do get at it like NGNL are poorly done. The author of NGNL is a BR hapa, you can't trust someone like that to make something good.
No.747705
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Also, Stephen wanted a game of pure chance why didn't just flip a coin?
No.747719
>>747699
>I think there's a fairly big market for "smart protagonist is really good at games" anime and it's not being tapped for whatever reason. And the attempts we do get at it like NGNL are poorly done.
It is basically Rick and Morty for sexual deviants.
No.747720
>>742767
This >>747211
I rather like the style and I have shit taste anyway, so it was quite entertaining for me.
No.747730
>>747705
I'm sure if you asked /tg/ they could think of a dozen ways to magically rig a coin toss.
No.747742
>>747730
She was the one deciding on the games.
Also instead of saying that the "technically worse than rape" love contract was too vague thus removing stupid exploits from losing, they decided with some bullshit pride thing which still doesn't explain why they couldn't just use that when playing against each other.
No.747751
>>747699
You cant expect dumb people writing smart characters.
No.747756
>>747751
I finished watching Zaregoto the other day and was thinking to myself how someone could write a smart character without being smart himself, and at the end Zaregoto itself gave me the answer somewhat.
It's time. Authors have plenty of time to write and rewrite something to make their characters smart. Given enough time most people can figure out solutions to most things, but in a Sherlock Holmes situation (or Zaregoto, or NGNL) where something needs to be figured out fast, the character will look smart when he does it, but the author could take days, weeks, months to fabricate a troublesome situation to put characters in and figure out himself a clever way for the character to get out of it. This gets hard with trying to get philosophical and shit but it can be done too, I believe.
No.747776
>>747756
That would imply capability to solve a problem and desire to spend a lot of time thinking about it.
No.748227
>>747776
>>747756
>>747699
>>747751
You could just go the stargate route and be necessarily vague about the technical details of their intellectual accomplishment.
>He solved the quizgar groen problem, you need to be quite the smarty farty to do that!
No.748239
>>748227
>You could just go the stargate route and be necessarily vague about the technical details of their intellectual accomplishment.
Not really, they are often really specific about technology and all of bullshit.
>He solved the quizgar groen problem, you need to be quite the smarty farty to do that!
Sometimes, but they have dedicated guy to do all of them all the time. He is walking universal translator. But I was talking about real problems, like in the Planetes "we have air for only 4 people and there is 5 of us and we need to live whole day here" Solution was lowering temperature to save oxygen. Stuff like that, not some "solving quizgar groen by applying whoopty doopty on it". In "no game" type anime they use regular games and bullshit solutions to them all the fucking time. I can respect stuff like "I roll to seduce enemy queen" in chess as any other faT Guy, but in general its pure bullshit. The opposite of akagi and kaiji.
No.748290
>>748239
I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt like that.
There's so much that can be done with fantastical games. If the author wasn't lazy he could come up with an interesting way some rule was exploited and then only figure out what the game was afterwards. Or he could think of games and then change rules around in a way that allows for a not so obvious victory for the protagonists.
Without real life limitations he could do something like "This deck of cards we're playing with has 1000 card and an uneven but logical distribution of card types", and then the last play depends on knowing what the last card of the deck is like and the girl could go "I remember all the cards that were played and i figured out the pattern, so I know what the last card is" and they win because of it. This is just a shitty example I came up with right now, on the spot, I'm sure an author writing a whole book about shit like this could have devoted more time figuring out how to do interesting games instead of just asspulls.
Like the shiritori game they played, I think that was pretty clever, with one word having multiple meanings and that being important for the win condition. That was probably the only good game they played in the anime.
No.748534
>>748290
>Like the shiritori game they played, I think that was pretty clever, with one word having multiple meanings and that being important for the win condition. That was probably the only good game they played in the anime.
It really wasn't. The planet would have certainly collapse on itself before they could get rid of the crust. Also, the show is mistaking insane risk-taking for brilliant strategy. Every deduction is correct. Also, that episode follows up on the bullshit pointless speech about Imanity's weakness being a strength by having aliens from another world fight their battles. "Intelligence and longevity aren't everything." Bullshit.
Honestly this show's only redeeming quality is its art style. I think that everyone who has watch this show has become a worse person. I know that I have. Otaku culture is truly disgusting; but at least, it is pandering to people that buy their shit rather than rainbow haired fags.
No.748656
>>748534
>It really wasn't. The planet would have certainly collapse on itself before they could get rid of the crust.
Of course, but that's some suppression of disbelief I'm wiling to work with.
No.748672
Is the manga even still going for this? I havent seen updates for this at all ever since the "tracing" debacle
No.748910
>>748656
You would have a point if the series didn't started out with a shit "heart of the chess pieces" game as its first major game and that word game followed immediately after it. I made a mistake watching the show after the chess game thinking maybe it would redeem itself. Being only slightly less bad than first major game and being only the second game means that it is unlikely that it going to be good.
No.748923
>>742723
I couldn't find it anywhere, sadly. Just been praying for a season 2 instead.
No.748936
I know it is a shitty book but I will keep reading it because of the blatant and pandering fanservice is like candy except for that plum shit, fuck that faggotry
No.751216
>>742767
Why does she have no nipples?
No.751319
>>748923
I got it from yid press. The translation has improved slightly but is still pretty shit. Also Tet confirmed for not respecting blank and thinking they are cowards. Old Deus gonna get fucked up next volume.
No.751320
>>751216
Because of reality warping shiritori.
No.751514
>>748923
You should be able to still find the first 6 volumes online. I'm waiting until yen press releases volume 7 next year.
No.751593
>>747705
She doesn't have one and sora would just have given her a cheat coin. Also she's an idiot.
No.752013
>>751593
Why do people think that letting everyone cheat makes it interesting?
>>747719
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand No Game No Life. The writing is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of game theory most of the gambits will go over a typical viewer’s head. There’s also Blank’s otaku outlook, which is deftly woven into their characterisation- their hikikomori lifestyle draws heavily from Welcome to the N.H.K., for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these gambits, to realise that they’re not just smart- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike No Game No Life truly ARE baka gaijins- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the genius in Blank’s line “But I refuse,” which itself is a cryptic reference to Hirohiko Araki’s long running manga, JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those well-adjusted normalfags scratching their heads in confusion as Yu Kamiya’s genius wit unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools.. how I pity them.
And yes, by the way, i DO have a No Game No Life doujin. And no, you cannot see it. It’s for the Asian waifus’ eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they’re within 6 years of the age of consent (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid
No.752015
>>752013
>To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand No Game No Life.
Stop right there.
The show is normalfag catering, Shiro hardly exists at all, shota faggotry is just as prominent as loli, but the real lewd goes to well endowed girls.
Shit shot for casuals and pretend intellectuals.
No.752034
>>752015
That's pasta, anon. You're replying to pasta...
No.752039
This thread convinced me to watch the anime. You see, I like to complain.
No.752109
>>752015
>Shiro hardly exists at all
If you read between the lines, Shiro actually only exists inside Soras mind.
No.752149
>>752109
Even worse, but not much, really. She has no presence in the series whatsoever.
No.752503
>>752149
She is a tamagatchi that coos and purrs niisan when the self insert does ceetain things.
No.752526
The author once held a panel at a local con here. Somebody asked him what kinds of games he likes to play in his free time, since he seems to like vidya and the main characters are gamers.
>"I like playing games to blow off steam... like COD and Asscreed."
So if you ever thought NGNL was shit, know the author has shittaste in vidya.
No.752726
>>752526
You'd think someone who made an active effort to move to Japan and write japanese novels about japanese things would know that japanese games are usually better.
No.752751
At least it aint clockwork planet
No.752811
I want to Dutch Oven Stuch.
No.752928
>>752751
Both are written by the same guy. I love both
No.752935
>>752015
Pretend intellectuals like it because they think it's smart and other pretend intellectuals hate it because they think it's trying to be smart, when it's not. You can't pretend you're not a dumb fuck after taking that obvious pasta seriously.
No.752984
>>752935
>other pretend intellectuals hate it because they think it's trying to be smart, when it's not.
It wasn't trying to be dumb. That is such a retarded way to defend the show. I'm sure the blatant fan service wasn't meant to make the show "smart" but the show was definitely trying to be "smart" and failing.
This video is why I made that copypasta.Sorry about the audio quality.
No.752987
>>752984
>the show was definitely trying to be "smart"
You have to be retarded to think this.
No.752990
>>752987
I agree with him. Both NGNL and Clockwork Planet were trying to be "smart" in similar ways.
No.752992
>>752987
Trying to be smart ≠ being smart
It is like some retard made some cringy shit and thinks that it is funny.
Give me a good argument that it isn't trying to be smart.
No.752999
>>752990
How was clockwork planet trying to be smart?
No.753939
>>752526
>So if you ever thought NGNL was shit, know the author has shittaste in vidya.
Assume people have shit taste in vidya until proven otherwise.
>>752987
So Hillary was only pretending to be retarded in her book? Because this is really fucking retarded.
No.754845
>This is what faggots think is smart.
No.754851
>>754845
TRYING to be smart, anon.
It didn't succeed.
No.754872
>>754845
>hehe i'm the best game master of the world because of my great intellect
>My sister is also of great intellect and thus we make the best team ever
Just admit it. They tried to make the show smart but failed the same way SAO tried to make the mc cool but failed.
No.754905
>>752149
Hard to have much of a presence when you're a shy introvert loliNEET. Look at the way the speaks in the LN. Lots...of...ellipses...as if she talks slow. She clearly has some speech difficulties and makes up for it by being extremely smart.
That said, she is by far the most interesting character. I'll teach her to swim.
>>754862
>not having a Shiro pillowcase and fucking it
No.755120
>>752984
If you are the same anon who was upset about NGNL being "normalfag catering" I don't know what else to call the content of your webm.
No.755416
>>755120
>If you are the same anon who was upset about NGNL being "normalfag catering" I don't know what else to call the content of your webm.
How can this shit be "normalfag catering"? This is catering to retarded NEET degenerate (the sexual kind) otakus that think that their brainwaves create tsunamis.
No.755419
>>755416
>How can this shit be "normalfag catering"
Recording yourself stating the obvious so you can ask for money on patreon is pretty mainstream these days.
No.755420
>>755419
I can create Tsunami with my mind?
No.755437
>>755419
>Recording yourself stating the obvious so you can ask for money on patreon is pretty mainstream these days.
The guy in the webm was praising the garbage. I was making fun of how he is praising it using the copypasta.
No.755453
>>748672
Could anyone answer this?
No.755467
No.758602
>>755419
>Recording yourself stating the obvious
<NGNL is great!
You can't say that someone is stating the obvious if what he is saying is wrong.