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File: 6c3c6edd66dec3a⋯.png (1.33 MB, 1298x1676, 649:838, 1501493148250.png)

 No.715053

Summer's end is just around the corner, so that means that you must have had plenty of time to work on that manga/anime/novel/song you've always wanted to make. If you are up to it, feel free to post what you have drawn, written, or composed. Don't worry, I won't judge or steal no matter how shitty or great others might think it is. Having made progress is still better than having contributed nothing to the manga/anime/novel/song of your dreams.

 No.715073

File: d6cfc18a43c9288⋯.gif (904.25 KB, 500x532, 125:133, 1455946871191.gif)

>>715053

>that means that you must have had plenty of time to work on that manga/anime/novel/song you've always wanted to make

Of course. I write short stories though.


 No.715089

File: 28d2359006df570⋯.png (520.62 KB, 788x739, 788:739, ai.png)

>you must have had plenty of time to work on that manga/anime/novel/song you've always wanted to make

No. But I did get significantly more skilled at keyboard, so I consider it progress as far as composing goes.


 No.715179

>>715053

Fuck you you barrier fucks.


 No.715182

File: aac60579532b48e⋯.gif (1016.23 KB, 500x375, 4:3, 1465682591965.gif)

>>715053

>Have a homebrew game project I wanted to work on for the past two months since I became unemployed

>Set a deadline for myself

>deadline is two weeks ago

>only now starting to work on it

Such is life.


 No.715184

>>715053

No, it means I've been contemplating making a rope-portal to Gensokyo to get away working foodservice in a tourist trap.

>At least it's Friday!

FUCK YOU!


 No.715185

File: b4c54a6d767d3c6⋯.jpg (44.49 KB, 703x680, 703:680, mado-drugs.jpg)

>>715182

Fuck, I know that feel.


 No.715187

File: 6d0a65c6cf7dea5⋯.jpg (11.99 KB, 152x188, 38:47, munch.jpg)

Translating the Konosuba LN counts as working on a novel, right? It also counts as learning Japanese, right? I have a bad habit of skipping days but I also have a habit of doing extra work on the days I don't skip out of shame, so I think I'm overall maintaining a decent pace. Hopefully when I start school again I can fall back into my old routine of skipping lectures, never studying and having a schedule to work my translation into.


 No.715188

>Summer's end is just around the corner, so that means that you must have had plenty of time

Since when does summer mean you've got spare time? I thought we were adults here?


 No.715191

File: 5e0b92d9504f7b7⋯.png (28.94 KB, 192x326, 96:163, 5e0b92d9504f7b72b8b75a841b….png)

>>715188

We're all little girls here. It's just that some of us fell for the college meme.


 No.715192

>>715188

No, we're cute little girls.


 No.715193

File: 2548d2629139297⋯.png (463.77 KB, 686x1000, 343:500, 65153.png)

>>715188

>i thought we were adults here

What did he mean by this?


 No.715198

File: f7307ef3d0e2589⋯.png (91.7 KB, 800x540, 40:27, 1480837384244.png)


 No.715202

File: 9f9b1e54f35225a⋯.jpg (58.46 KB, 604x402, 302:201, badlittlegirls.jpg)

>>715191

Little girls such as yourselves should be in school. Are you skipping school again?


 No.715203

>>715202

Are you saying you're not a little girl?


 No.715218

File: 94577cc8083cdec⋯.jpg (105.4 KB, 680x383, 680:383, 94577cc8083cdecba1c4b9be9c….jpg)

Much to my own surprise, I did, in fact, make progress on my not-novel thing or whatever. I managed to edit the entire first arc, so to speak (5 chapters, 30k words in total), which I have been working on and off for a few months now. I put it up on fictionpress (yeah, I know, but I like the clean layout) and, well, I guess I will try and see that thing through to the end. If you anons are interested, I can show it to you. I will tell you, though, it is shit. Most likely it is garbage. I've shown it to a few people and they said they liked it, but I still can't say I like it. Still, I figured it was better to put it up somewhere and show it instead of having it rot in my HD. I am proud of myself at least for that.

If you are interested, here it is. Dissect it all you want. I am embarrassed of it, but at least I've done something, I guess.

https://mega.nz/#!pk1z0YYZ!wqZ0QQYu9g1J7HTyd9V1QPNCHB47bWPnrvRA-YBiMa4

https://mega.nz/#!g4EyVIyY!1aslTwIGb_sFdbLSNbDPs7Zu_xqGY8GxW0XL0DC4DeQ

https://mega.nz/#!l1cgjYKY!dGONuhulsMad-3VXCp12Xh3ADnCAF88JrbH2jw_DEVc

https://mega.nz/#!kw8xTaJY!thPGOwwroJCDL-KXWsv7aDfgRlcbHJ12VO0nmqnGHgs

https://mega.nz/#!QtMSBaAS!k3UZMlxeXPzpPrHilaJHx6Ea2dCBQdwx3MNt5VskSPc


 No.715230

File: 71d3a27c7bef0fa⋯.jpg (283.63 KB, 600x600, 1:1, 62789093_p0.jpg)

>>715188

Summer can be a pretty slow period for some industries and it's also the time of year that most people spend their vacation days on. There's also college students on summer break. I suppose we could have some newfags and underage b&s, but I think the general idea behind people doing more things in summer comes from the fact that summer has the longest days and we are more prone to being active and productive during daylight hours.


 No.715262

>>715053

The heat fries my brain and I can never get any work done in the summer. That entire three month period from the middle of June to the middle of September, I waste my entire life just sitting there.

When the cool weather rolls around, I'll start getting antsy and get back to work on something. I want to start learning music, but I have no instruments.


 No.715270

File: fc921f7dc8548b2⋯.jpg (131.09 KB, 850x850, 1:1, __hakurei_reimu_touhou_dra….jpg)

>>715262

>Too hot and lazy to do anything during summer

>Too comfy and depressed to do anything during winter


 No.715300

>tfw writing my own isekai battle harem novel


 No.715302

File: 878394412f7048b⋯.jpg (214.42 KB, 640x862, 320:431, FJmfM.jpg)

>>715300

Good luck. You got anything so far or just a couple of ideas?


 No.715305

I'm like 5 pages in but I'm not posting anything yet, maybe once I have a bit more and are comfortable with it I might show someone.


 No.715307

File: 1a92704a600b4eb⋯.png (871.57 KB, 657x1000, 657:1000, __yumeko_touhou_and_touhou….png)

>>715305

There's no rush, anon. Take your time and make the best story you can.


 No.715349

File: 290d69967a8c047⋯.png (278.74 KB, 600x600, 1:1, 1480743081891.png)

>>715218

I've only read a little bit into chapter 1-2 and so far it has been alright. Although for some reason, I feel quite detached from the characters. After finishing chapter 1-1, I kept associating them with 3DPD rather than their 2D counterparts despite chapter 1-2 and I am not sure why. Because of that, the anime-esque moments feel ill-fitting. The monologues seem excessive, but don't take my word for it since I might just be plain illiterate. As a novel, I believe what you have so far is quite decent and well-written. But if you were aiming for something like Jap web or light novels, it simply misses its mark. However, considering the average quality of writing from Japanese web and light novels, I guess you can take that as a compliment.

That's what I have to say so far, but take everything said with a grain of salt, as I am not exactly the most avid reader and usually spend my time enjoying shitty Jap web novels while having shit taste.


 No.715426

File: 44981f15e171c5b⋯.jpg (1.02 MB, 980x6186, 490:3093, motivational for anon.jpg)

you can do it anon


 No.715452

File: 3fdfa122981772e⋯.jpg (85.12 KB, 384x384, 1:1, 1336527525057.jpg)

>want to make a visual novel but have no ideas

I suppose it's better than having many ideas and no programming skill


 No.715461

>>715452

Why not make a funny VN?


 No.715465

>>715426

Zen Pencils's shit always bothers me because he gets so wrapped up in his own fuckwitted romanticized version of creativity and art. And look what he fucking creates: Flat colors, crude cartoons, copy-and paste art, and sappy hyperbolic prose about the virtues of the starving artist.

A proper workspace can make all the difference. Writing may be different and some people can pound out 5000 page novels on nothing more than an old speak and spell, but that's autism, not the power of dedication. A decent machine to type on, a clean, well-ventilated area that isn't claustrophobic can make all the difference. You shouldn't have to sacrifice your health and sanity for the glorious act of creativity. This is tumblr-grade bullshit, like how they believe that having mental illness somehow improves an artist's work. Fuck that. The stuff you write and draw and create when you are well-rested, focused, and comfortable will be better than anything you make in a fit of madness.


 No.715471

>>715465

You are going to sacrifice your sanity if nothing else becoming a writer. Especially if you become invested in your own characters.


 No.715480

File: e994cdd93c5ed4a⋯.png (22.69 KB, 656x517, 656:517, 4.png)

>>715471

Yeah, it might not be that mentally ill artists are better so much as mental illness is kind of a part of the package, both for wanting to start and the things you have to do get good at art/music/writing/whatever, and then the things you have to do to become more well known, and that most artists never become well known, it's hard to still want all this unless you're a bit off, not that i'm saying it's bad to still want to do artist things, it's just kind of weird, and difficult.


 No.715491

>After more than a year working manage to get the script for my VN almost done

>130k words, more than 360 pages. Literally just 3 scenes away for finishing it. It would take me like a week or two to get it done.

>Suddenly feel like something is amiss, get an urge to make major changes

>Now stuck thinking what's wrong and trying to make some major changes forcing me to rewrite almost every scene.

The pressure between wanting to fucking finally release and get shit done together with my own critical analysis is fucking killing me. There are moments when I don't know what's good or bad anymore, I think my job is good, but is always "not good enough". Now it will probably take me a couple more months to get this shit done and I may not even like the changes.


 No.715575

>>715053

I dunno if this would count but I've finally started on clearing out some land for the shrine I'm gonna build.


 No.715578

>>715491

I would finish it, wait a day or two, then begin revising it.

>>715575

What shrine will it be for? How large?


 No.715582

>>715578

Haven't really decided what it'll be for, maybe all the souls lost to the woods. The draft for it is based on the Hakurei shrine though its 5/6th the size minus the roof which I haven't decided on due to the one you see in the fighting games has that awful curve in it that I don't think I can replicate with my skill set.


 No.715621

File: a9cf818ac2d92b9⋯.jpg (11.62 KB, 255x255, 1:1, 1454700678797.jpg)

>>715349

Hey, I still appreciate your criticism anon. Any feedback like this is valuable and I'm glad you at least checked it out. I was actually afraid of these two points you brought up. I did want to create something akin to a light or visual novel, but at the same time I didn't want the story to come off as another gaijin's attempt at creating "lmao american anime xD", like, say, RWBY or something. I wanted it to be anime-inspired, but never reaching the point where it's an imitation of anime or VNs. It reached the point where I originally wanted to write "h-scenes" like most VNs have, but it would probably be way too jarring and stupid, so at this point I think I will just be content with writing lewd short stories with my characters if I ever feel like it.

As for the characters, I'll definitely keep this in mind for the next chapters. I guess the fact that I haven't really shown them do much except discussing the plot or fighting made them feel more like set pieces. Maybe include a few more SOL scenes, like the girls at school or something, might be a good idea... Something that can help expand more on their lives and their personalities.

>>715426

>Charles Bukowski

While I can kind of see his point, as another anon here said, it's important to have an appropriate environment to create. Writing is a gruelling process but you don't have to be some kind of sacrificial martyr to ever create something. More than anything, it's a matter of dedication and discipline and autism.

>>715491

>I think my job is good but is always "not good enough".

Good. Knowing you always have something to improve instead of being completely satisfied is key. Use that to stimulate yourself to write more and get better. That's what I do whenever I feel like I'm shit. If I'm shit, that's even more opportunity for me to find new ways to get better. Although, if you reach the point where you don't know what's good or bad, like you said, it may be time to take a step back from your work a little. Maybe a couple days. Come back with a fresh mindset. However, it's also a bad idea to "fiddle" with the story too much. Otherwise, you'll reach the point where the story might either seem too "artificial", or it may even never be released. Take a break, come back, change a few things here, but not too much, then release it. If there are problems, you can use your next work to improve on them.

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 No.715635

File: d1d8cbd266ec3e1⋯.jpg (337 KB, 850x1674, 425:837, D154866541.jpg)


 No.715637

>>715582

When you complete it make sure to show us a picture, since you're clearing the land it might be a while until then but I'm sure everyone would enjoy seeing it.


 No.715705

I've gotten some enthusiasm back and have been working on a little game. It's nothing and no one will ever see it, probably, in the unlikely case that I even finish it. But I enjoy the process and it connects me to my dream world.


 No.716050

File: d062181b803a9c5⋯.jpg (461.64 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, [DeadFish] Flying Witch - ….jpg)

The enthusiasm I had for my book and the optimism I had for finishing it 24 days from now has been tempered by the fact that the central and most important chapter has taken a full two months to write.

I'm almost done with that chapter and all but one or two more chapters are far easier to write, so maybe I'll make that deadline. 108,000 words so far.


 No.716058

File: ee5a81bdc4625e8⋯.png (458.33 KB, 800x1127, 800:1127, cover 2_001 white shrunk.png)

File: 76ebc28c927f508⋯.png (560 KB, 800x1127, 800:1127, cover page chapter 2 secon….png)

File: bbf58e52a9471d4⋯.png (218.18 KB, 900x1238, 450:619, cover page chapter 3 (comp….png)

>>715053

It's not really "manga" since I'm not pursuing a 1:1 manga aesthetic. But I am using a lot of elements from it.

Friends have said the way I do comics is kind of like a mix of the two, if anything.

The story is basically:

>big city with sword in it (Excaliburgh)

>monsters (Game) are attacking it

>super powered pest control becomes lucrative (Enders)

>powerless MC (Max) survives a back-alley run in with one

>boss of an Ending Firm takes interest in him, gives him a job offer.

>Says one day he'll make her King

And the rest is shit I can't really allude much to, since even hinting at what I'm doing is potentially spoilers. But I will say I've got the entire story planned out, won't give up, and will get to each point in my timeline eventually.

That and I'm pretty meticulous on polishing the writing, and worldbuilding.


 No.716068

File: f9fccd7ce3238fb⋯.png (382.29 KB, 850x720, 85:72, 7a4a16fcc4c28769512f8d8df3….png)

>>715705

Good luck on the little game of yours, though I am quite curious as to what the game is about. I hope you finish eventually.

>>716050

Are thinking about publishing your book physically or online? What is it called?

>>716058

That artsyle looks fucking great with an interesting premise to boot. Have you put it up online somewhere? Very interested in what you have so far.


 No.716069

>>716068

>Are thinking about publishing your book physically or online? What is it called?

Both physically and online, hopefully. I don't actually have a title for it, since I'm still not sure of its character and message even halfway into writing it. I'll be sure to hock it here when it's finished though.


 No.716073

File: 745ec5d7811d2e6⋯.png (78.24 KB, 476x472, 119:118, Screenshot from 2017-07-28….png)

>>716068

Of course.

I've covered all my bases with domains, short of making my own.

http://endgamewastaken.webcomic.ws/

https://endgamewastaken.tumblr.com/

and

https://tapas.io/series/End-Game-Was-Taken (tapas is ass, don't read comics here unless you want to signal boost the author)

And thanks. I'm glad to see the premise is good enough to garner interest, considering how tight lipped I need to be.


 No.717607

File: 9d289ec9ca990f4⋯.jpg (104.09 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, 9d289ec9ca990f430571224a71….jpg)

>Want to fill game with high-powerlevel content

>Very real chance I'll want to show the project to normal people

Ah, the crossroads of life.


 No.717662

File: 9ec378469e61d19⋯.png (55.11 KB, 494x368, 247:184, 9ec378469e61d19879aea712d6….png)

Can I interest anyone here to read roughly 5500 words of pure autism? I am writing a non-chronological epistolary VN consisting of highly elaborate shitposts.


 No.717668

>>717662

Post a link to a place where it can be read, I'l give it a look.


 No.717817

>>717662

Show us your work, anon.


 No.717819

>>717607

Make it really hard to get to. That'll keep the average normalfag away at least until someone spoils everything on reddit.

Or just make it really subtle so that normal people won't even realize.


 No.720486

File: 126bce67f3d2634⋯.jpg (343.8 KB, 1280x755, 256:151, Mobu Psycho 1,000,000.jpg)

File: 53455607f2f1387⋯.png (70.33 KB, 266x541, 266:541, LOOK AT ME.png)

Been working diligently, finished the 52nd page now.

Still, it puts it into perspective, and has me reflecting.

A whole year's worth of pages. And that's not even counting the cover pages, and breaks I've taken.

Feels good to have stuck to something for a year, and have so much to show for it.

Also been realizing a lot of shit, on how to better the comic and story, and it's been helping out immensely.

Having a project is great, /a/nons, I recommend it to everyone who likes to create. Comics, light novels, visual novels, it doesn't matter. Having an overarching goal to stick to and push you forward will help you in every avenue of life.


 No.720527

File: c1ebe28ddb48e5f⋯.webm (738.14 KB, 640x360, 16:9, Are you sure about that.webm)

>>716058

>powerless

>Fucker literally flickers across the room in the latest page

Are you sure about that.


 No.720541

File: 0073b503b19531d⋯.png (338.37 KB, 652x478, 326:239, loli memeomancer.png)

>>720486

>Having a project is great, /a/nons,

I've been deeply considering that I needed a long term project to grow artistically. Thanks for convincing me anon. Not really /a/ related but my idea was to use my casio to make a soundtrack for a non-existing RPG with a cheap synthy runescape style.


 No.720576

File: 899e41718cb93e3⋯.jpg (689.03 KB, 2667x1500, 889:500, 1MIrnWq.jpg)

>>720527

I can't give away all my tricks in some random post on /a/ now, can I?

All I can say is to never underestimate just how much one sperg can comb over his OC.

>>720541

You should go for it, man. Fuck anyone who says that'd be weird or "too niche." We do stuff like this for ourselves, and to maintain a foundation.

One of the coolest dudes I know has an autistic obsession over vidya UI, and it's always fascinating just listening to him talk about it.


 No.720582

File: a48b217de88b970⋯.png (228.45 KB, 1192x830, 596:415, a48b217de88b97047175eace4b….png)

>tfw want to make a manga about a bunch of cute mahou shoujo necromancers but can't draw


 No.720590

>>720582

Then you better get started.

Have you come up with a design for them yet? Will they be running around in loli-sized cultist robes or in mahou shoujo attire but with spooky skeletal accessories/patterns?


 No.720613

>>720582

Are there loli skeletons?


 No.720626

>>715230

I'd rather work at night in winter with a comfy duvet and a coffee cup.


 No.720747

>>720626

Same. Summer's heat just produces laziness and saps you of your energy.

Night time is when the magic happens.


 No.720757

Make this thread again in six months when summer starts and those of us in tourist traps are on the verge of going full-time.


 No.720761

>utterly devoid of artistic talent, no hope at drawing

>lack the imagination to write fiction, and my writing style tends to be too dry to be enjoyable to read anyway

>still want to create something instead of just reading and watching all the time

>"Aha! Manga translation may be the answer. I can't translate or redraw, but I might at least be able to do basic cleaning and typesetting."

>download a previously-translated manga and a less-censored volume raw, planning to copy over the translation

>three months later, I have yet to bother doing even a single page


 No.720828

File: 53a65e48efa3534⋯.jpg (85.87 KB, 384x313, 384:313, okay, I understand, I come….jpg)

>>720761

Nothing's gonna get done if you don't do it, man.


 No.721304

File: 5b74e046912f29e⋯.gif (1.82 MB, 400x225, 16:9, bef35a077970ac530427ce1ccd….gif)

>>720828

But no one will enjoy it. What's the point of making something that no one will like or see or play or read?


 No.721308

>>721304

As long as you enjoy it that should be enough of a reason to do it. I'm in a similar boat only with translation, and I get a nice feeling of satisfaction when I feel I did a good job translating something. That's what pushes me to keep doing it. Having people enjoy your work is a special kind of joy as well, but realistically very few people in general get to experience it. Besides, mass appeal isn't something you get by being good at your job, it's something you get by being manipulative and soulless.

Keep at it and treasure the appreciation you get, even if it comes from yourself. It's better than doing nothing.


 No.721322

>>721304

It would be doing something, which is a lot better than doing nothing. Even if no one cares about it, getting into the swing of doing things will lead you on to learn and do better things that people will appreciate. Next time you find yourself doing not a thing, stop it and do a thing.


 No.721336

File: 08e29f0d59a9593⋯.jpg (240.93 KB, 500x4014, 250:2007, motivation game.jpg)

Relevant.


 No.721441

Summer's not really anything special to me because wageslave

But all the same, I've finally started learning to sketch, which is something I've wanted to do for quite a while now. I got a sketchbook and have set myself the lofty goal of filling it up, and I feel that I'm making decent progress. If I make enough progress by christmas, I may buy myself a tablet.


 No.721478

>Summer is almost over

>Have done nothing but wageslaving it up and paying back-rent

>Haven't progressed at all in my research

>My Japanese hasn't improved at all yet I'm going abroad in three god damn weeks

>Haven't even touched my backlog

This is the worst feeling

sage for blogshit


 No.722923

>>721304

>No one will enjoy it

That's demonstrably false.

You will. So that should be enough.


 No.723511

>>721478

>My Japanese hasn't improved at all yet I'm going abroad in three god damn weeks

Well as long as you are doing your reps you might have some insight while you are abroad if you end up using it I am assuming you mean you are going abroad to Japan


 No.723608

>>721304

That's all I ever do and it's fun.


 No.729037

Now summers end is upon us.


 No.730763

>>715073

Share some of them


 No.730786

File: 06f862043217e08⋯.jpg (49.29 KB, 640x480, 4:3, [FroZen]_Miyuki_-_17_[DVD]….jpg)

Why is it that whenever I'm in front of a white document, my brain fries and I can't think of anything to put down, but when I'm out and about, I feel a surging passion within me I need to write down?

Also, the story I've been trying to write has started to bore me. It has all the ideas I wanted to express, but I can't get around the feeling that the world is just dull. It's my first time writing from an omnipotent narrator perspective and I can't find a way to get into the character's minds and hearts to make it more interesting. Does anyone have any experience writing from this perspective? What sort of stories usually work with it and how does the progression work? I usually write character dramas so this is a real challenge.


 No.730795

File: 47dc4cad02ee1a3⋯.jpg (22.16 KB, 292x292, 1:1, 47dc4cad02ee1a3a286613980c….jpg)

>>715452

Haha Yeah!


 No.730823

I have an idea for a fantasy world story and I'm planning to work on it whenever I have time at work. Thing is, I want to write it like a LN, so even if that story does go somewhere, it's not going to be taken serious by westerners because it has too much weeb influence and it's not going to be taken serious by the japs because it's not in japanese.

Oh well, I'll just do it for fun


 No.730871

File: 65b119bd766d0e2⋯.png (11.45 KB, 800x600, 4:3, Example Graphic.png)

I've actually made quite a bit of progress since the last time I posted in one of these. I'm not far shy of 110k words and I've been posting it on a webnovel site to warm reception, which granted isn't saying much. I always have a sneaking suspicion that it simply isn't very good, but compared to works of a similar length I can find (and do enjoy), it actually fairs pretty well, ratings-wise.

I've still got to dramatically revise it if I want to publish, mainly because of how it's structured. All in all and that aside? Things are looking good. I'm pretty happy with where it's going, so instead of just commenting on that, I'll share the magic system a bit (far ahead of what in-story characters are sure of) and pose a question.

Belief is entirely mind over matter, requiring more fundamental changes and only functioning if you can 'believe' you are doing it, with great costs. You can't conjure ice out of thin air, but you can fuck with the laws of thermodynamics a bit (at huge costs). It prefers to take energy especially from the self, losing efficiency if you leverage other sources, but most tangible effects are too much for one person to handle.

Allegiance is more esoteric, requiring a sort of loyalty to whatever it is you are manipulating. It doesn't necessarily consume mana at all, the person acting as an avatar of whatever they seek to embody. In the worst case, a Greater Acolyte of Surfing could dump all their own mana to agitate the world into conjuring a tsunami, but it wouldn't be advisable. While it can fuck with scientific laws, it prefers to just ignore them entirely. Shares elements with belief in that the world itself is quietly attuning itself to what people believe, so depending on how many individuals believe that 'Surfing' is a thing to be feared, a stupid fucking title like "Greater Acolyte of Surfing" could range from great and powerful. Religious magic actually falls into this category, broadly speaking.

Transcendent is closer to vanilla magic in a way. It forces you to merge external mana and sacrifices together, granting power especially based on how much you give up. In its purest form, you give up the access to mana itself, allowing you to seek a different path. You basically hobble your options to enhance those you retain, but no matter what, your access to the basic internal reserve of mana you have is gone. Counter-intuitively, You could give up access to magic to get faux-Magic, of the sort you see in RPGs. You'd have to do some silly chanting and shout fireball a lot, but in exchange, you'd be able to create more external effects. Transcendent is exclusive, denying you access to 'life magic' (internal magic) that most everyone else uses. While it doesn't like to fuck with the fundamental premises of reality by default, in some cases an individual may be predisposed to that path. Versatile, very broad category.

Ascendant occludes you from everything else but requires no power. While everything else can touch or even grasp the fundamentals, Ascendant practitioners live by them, able to twist them and turn them. Much like Allegiance, they embody a principle. Not so much like Allegiance, they're basically a ticking time-bomb, eventually losing their agency if reckless. It isn't easy to Ascend, at least in a broader sense.

Pic related should help demonstrate these concepts, which gets to the question: does any of that make sense? It's the magic system I've got to run with, and the characters have a lot of catching up to do. I was thinking I'd have them draw a graphic, in-story, adding to it as they learn more about the actual realities of the system. At current, they essentially only know about Belief and have a hunch about Transcendent, but as things get more complex, I think it might be necessary. Does the graphic help you get the structure at all, or is that a good idea? Is the magic system actually easy to understand? More fundamentally, would you enjoy using and abusing the magic system I just described?


 No.730952

>>730786

Maybe you've come to associate white, blank documents with failure and being out and about with creativity? In which case, switch it up! Try to identify your subconscious biases towards the blank paper and switch them with the ones you experience when you're out and about and vice-versa, try to look at the outside world and muster the feelings you experience when looking at a blank document.


 No.731482

>>730786

I've started to make progress. The trick is to make it interesting, even if the draft sucks for it. I've noticed that I can throw out a paragraph, and even if it's terribly written, as long as it gets the general idea across, it can be a placeholder for next draft.


 No.731838

I wrote some 2000 words for my story last night. I actually managed to make a crappy but somewhat entertaining SOL scene. Good progress.


 No.731843

>>731838

Writing SoL scenes always feel the most fulfilling for me.

It's really the best way to to get to know your characters and world. Understanding them makes writing so much more worth it.


 No.732016

File: f4452a7254cfffc⋯.jpg (40.74 KB, 393x474, 131:158, 1418269009493.jpg)

I did work on that song, it convinced me I either don't understand music after all, took my '2005 internet' inspiration too far, or am further on the spectrum than I thought. Either way it's quite different from the stuff I made 2 summers ago.


 No.734686

File: 1a87e101d363256⋯.png (2.36 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Konosuba~!!.png)

I am done with the next chapter of my story at last. The SOL chapter, though it also does have a tiny bit of exposition that I did my best to minimize. I also introduced two characters that will become important later. I feel like I went on too many tangents in this chapter again, but since I still have to edit it. I have been reading Subarashiki Hibi, which has given me a few ideas as to how to convey the narrator's thoughts.

I am >>731838 and >>715218, if anyone cares.


 No.734749

>>715053

my summer sucked, so I didn't get a chance to do much.


 No.734752

File: b9f57b5692cb3de⋯.jpg (147.4 KB, 782x577, 782:577, yasuna excite.jpg)

>>732016

>took my '2005 internet' inspiration too far

I wanna hear it.


 No.737109

File: 9c07292d06099b5⋯.webm (2.56 MB, 320x240, 4:3, Neet is ok.webm)

>/a/non learned to model and program his own wedding

>While I haven't done anything all summer


 No.737111

File: e431c9d73ef0571⋯.jpg (175.49 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, mpv-shot0041.jpg)

My problem is wanting to write several different things all at one. Like watching an episode of a mech anime here and then going to a SoL there, I want to experience different feelings at different times. Because of this, I go from one story to another because my primary motive for writing is to see how things play out myself.

I feel like if I don't do this, I run the risk of combining these elements together somehow, making a hodgepodge of a story (It's happened before).

Committing to one story over the other is a pain sometimes, and if I choose one over the other, the other will be placed in the back of my mind and eventually forgotten, leaving me with a story I don't feel like writing anymore (It's happened.)

So instead I just watch some anime to get my mind off of it all, making me get anxious about my own stories, filling me with a passion to finish one, which puts me in the exact same place as before.


 No.737118

File: d265806c39cc8bd⋯.jpg (103.35 KB, 480x756, 40:63, d265806c39cc8bdab47d664fa2….jpg)

>got slightly better at line control

>got slightly faster at guitar

>came up with a new story for a mango even if I start I'll probably never finish

I guess I am getting there, but it still sucks to see how shitty I still am.


 No.737120

>>737111

Learn from the best and write everything in one story, and do it well. It's not as though a mech SoL is impossible.


 No.737126

File: 55bda8b5f2b2b60⋯.png (345.73 KB, 1200x600, 2:1, 09fea31e98d346275cf7bcddbf….png)

>>737111

>>737118

What are the stories about? Even if you guys lost the motivation to start/finish writing, there would be no harm in sharing it, right? Having a potentially interesting story or premise lost to the aether makes me kinda sad.


 No.737143

>>737120

This is true. I once wrote a idol military mech SF SoL short story. But with that, I had a clear theme I wanted to express. With this new problem, I have a clear theme as well that doesn't seem to allow for anything else to creep into it. But, you know what? I'll try it anyway. It's kind of exciting this way, not knowing where you'll end up. Thanks, anon.

>>737126

I have a few separate ones that I can't really mix, but in themselves are actually mixtures of several different stories I wanted to write. Just so you understand the extent of my predicament: One is a Magical Girl story in the perspective of a normal high school guy who joins the paranormal/detective club, which is headed by a delinquent who wants to be a hero and eventually saves society from stagnation/being taken over by crazy commies with the help of a normal girl who pretends to be a magical girl and tricks the world into believing she's magical by becoming a net idol that solves crimes and stops petty theft in the streets, etc. She becomes an icon for true magical girl qualities, and actual magical girls start believing in her, giving her the power to defeat the big bad in the end, which also happens to be MC's imouto who hid her magical girl powers from her onii-chan all her life because their dad rallied a coup against the government and was killed by a magical girl in their employ. Imouto becomes the big bad due to her love for her onii-chan and possible time travel shenanigans. So you understand, magical girls get their powers from their love/passion of a certain thing, and their power is comparable to how much they love it. So, in the end, an army of magical girls who preside like idols over their perspective hobbies help the normal girl defeat the imouto with her own love for MC. After this event where the world is almost destroyed, society reshapes itself due to the presence of the magical girls, who all used to be either a gimmick for companies/governments or outright persecuted, resulting in an all-new style of government similar to a corporatist economic structure with magical girls at the heads of each industry.

But that one's on the backburner while I write my SF mech coming-of-age short story about love for your nation after an apocalypse caused by an AI waifu.


 No.737152

File: e23eb5055812b28⋯.gif (993.87 KB, 500x457, 500:457, 1426897122526.gif)

>>715491

I finally finished my story. I had to make a huge revision of EVERYTHING and was hard considering all the family bullshit I had to go through summer but I managed to finish it with 142k words. Although I will probably have to add a few small things in the future.

During the revision I actually made the story shorter in certain points (without really taking anything relevant out) so I think I managed to improve the pace a lot and the characters development.

I will start now all the other stuff (it's a visual novel). For now the name of the Project is simply "Tulpa" but it may change. I'll let you anons know more when I get stuff done...


 No.737158

File: a32c5e2b567ec4b⋯.jpg (356.36 KB, 1010x1400, 101:140, a32c5e2b567ec4bca4ac70324f….jpg)

>>737126

I have two I feel like drawing.

One is about this christian medial doctor with a plague doctor mask that ends up going to a war zone, finds a viking muscle loli(like pic related, but redhead) and goes onto adventures with the loli.

It'll mostly be SOL shenanigans with the doctor fucking patients up because lol mediaval doctor and trying to convert the loli to christianism. Maybe going the harem route of introducing girls that will never win the bowl and then drag it on forever, never getting progress in their love.

The other is about a guy that ends up in the middle of a cthulhu spawning ritual. Cthulhu wakes up, sees greed and fear in everyone's mind and starts killing everyone around him. This guy looks to Cthulhu's head and thinks about petting him, so the ancient god gets interested in the boy, shapeshifts into a girl and starts dating him. Eventually the boy dies, so cthulhu fucks shit up, angers the other gods and almost die trying to resurrect the boy. Then comes the "b-baka, you think I'd be happy if you hurt yourself to save me" scene and they run the fuck out to the ends of space and live a comfy life in an alien planet.

It's going to be somewhat like anenaru, with the running "ancient gods can't use modern utilities" joke. Though I'm not sure if that should all be in the first few chapters, then make it about alien planet adventures with the eventual earth flashback, or if I should start it on earth and then kill him off when I feel it's right and then go to space shenanigans.


 No.737161

File: 946db2fcfa44189⋯.jpg (94.37 KB, 543x409, 543:409, v001~01.jpg)

>>737152

Do you have art assets already? What kind of engine are you planning to use? What is it about?


 No.737200

I've done pretty much nothing except throw ideas around for a tabletop game setting I want to run. I want to make it a mix of Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, Outlaw Star, Desert Punk, and Armored Trooper VOTOMS. I want to run a space western.


 No.737205

>>737152

I'm curious about it too, anon. My story is heavily VN inspired but I'm just making it as a web novel which I'm putting up on fictionpress just to keep it somewhere. 140k words is pretty impressive! Great job.

Unrelated too, but what do you guys think of writing by the seat of your pants? I have a general idea of the themes and the plot for what I write, but I don't really have everything planned out or even put on paper. I'm terrible at planning. Do you think it's something I should work on?


 No.737228

>>737205

>what do you guys think of writing by the seat of your pants?

If I was writing a grand fantasy with a focus on the world building I wouldn't. I tend to write that way and I find that I have a lot of editing and rewriting to do afterwards because some parts are underdeveloped since I was just writing what I thought up next.


 No.737264

File: 6c23d98534fd3c7⋯.gif (3.25 MB, 960x540, 16:9, 6c23d98534fd3c7cf7d882cb81….gif)

>>737161

>>737205

Thanks for the comments. I'll try to make it short.

>It's is a visual novel, but it will have optional gameplay elements (if you want you can simply select novel mode and just read)

>Since it has gameplay I'll probably make everything in Unity 2D. Tried Renpy first but gameplay with Renpy is shitty

>I don't have any art assets yet, but I have a few names and friends I will ask around. If any art anon may want to give me a link to their work I may ask something for them (paying of course) in case other people fails me.

The story is about a survival. The main character is a girl named Cinque with no memories in a big city set in a modern setting where almost all population has disappeared.

She only finds 6 people barricaded in a castle under an alliance to help each other. The main issue is that actually half of the people left in the world are not humans, but Tulpa, who look exactly like humans but nobody knows why they exist but who are created through the subconscious mind of humans and are linked to them in a way that if the human dies, the tulpa does too, and viceversa.

The trick is that Tulpa have a really short lifespan, and the only way to keep living is by defeating another Tulpa in a duel, so even though the people at the castle are allied they know their time is limited under these conditions.

The story is a bit like a Slice of Life at the end of the world together with all the mysteries and drama that comes from this world. There's also a lot of lore and world-building since there's fantasy involved (magic exists) and stuff like that.

H-hope you like it once it's released, I will shill it a bit when I get art and stuff to show.


 No.737265

Also english is not my first language so I have it in spanish, but I'll get a translation done for sure. just saying because you will probably notice how my english lacks everywhere and don't want you to think that's my level.


 No.738361

>>715203

Everyone is a little girl.


 No.740792

>>730871

I wish I had as much capacity for planning as you, anon. Your have an interesting setting. I think how it's received will depend more on how it's used in the context of the story. You can create a very colorful and rich world with what you have, and you can't say the same about half the stuff people put out there, including my own story.

Speaking of which, where did you put up your work? I'm looking for a different place to upload but I don't know which websites are reliable.


 No.745858

>>715053

>Summer's end is just around the corner, so that means that you must have had plenty of time to work on that manga/anime/novel/song you've always wanted to make.

All time squandered. One of these years I'll learn to make good use of it, I'm sure.


 No.745861

File: 5e5857396e59899⋯.jpg (49.12 KB, 736x552, 4:3, Saber201.jpg)

>>715053

Summer's just around the corner for me. I'm looking forward to some hot nights and bright days.


 No.746977

File: 2aaf7397902b6d8⋯.jpg (61.67 KB, 500x500, 1:1, d813a28d6de73b14dcbc4523d6….jpg)

How many words a day is a good amount? Should I push myself to write every day?

I usually just write out a scene when I think it up, but the scene is usually only about 400 words long, and it might take all week to think it up in between real life duties and relate it to all the other plot points in my head to make sure it fits. Help.


 No.746983

>>746977

Even if you don't have any clue about what to do with your current project, write down other ideas you have, write some bullshit about them, and keep everything you write. You might end up giving yourself ideas you didn't even know you had.

If you don't have anything to write about, at all, then read, read fucking everything you can get your hands on. Even if you don't write something every day, try to at least read something in the days you don't write anything.


 No.746985

File: 86daa76c01b2711⋯.jpg (17.34 KB, 236x335, 236:335, e7510ee4a95c05961c0c596a7f….jpg)

>>746977

When I seriously write my WN I aim for 2 pages/day 12 point font double spaced. 2 pages/day is enough to use mental willpower to force yourself through it while being a small enough amount to not get burned out. Plus as long as you don't have a deadline, it adds up. 2 pages/day is a little over 700 pages/year or about 400 pages single-spaced after editing, which is pretty much a decent-sized novel right there.


 No.746986

>>746983

Also this. If you aren't writing 2 pages/day, aim to read at least a chapter of an LN/WN or book every day.


 No.746991

>>746983

>>746985

Thanks, guys. Looks like I wrote about two pages today, and I agree. It felt like the right amount.

And yeah, I have a silly amount of half-thought premises saved.


 No.750718

>>746986

That's a pretty big time investment.


 No.750746

>>750718

>That's a pretty big time investment

Not particularly. Consider that your average LN/WN/Western Book chapter takes about 10-20 minutes to read if you aren't reading super long skythewood-style books.

>>746991

Glad to hear. How's it coming along, anon?


 No.750868

File: 0141a4feb7af56a⋯.jpg (311.59 KB, 1080x780, 18:13, 8d0d9b76bb776c32181f1925a4….jpg)

>>750746

I've been oscillating between doing it and not doing it. Honestly, my life is pretty busy, but I don't think that's a valid excuse for not working on my dream. I need to find a way to get in the right state of mind for writing, and the only thing that seems to do it is a cigarette at night, but I need to keep fit and sleep early because of my day job so that's not something I can do all the time. I recently decided on setting aside two hours a for writing/nip study/other productive activities right before bed, so hopefully something more comes out of that.

In any case, I've got the first act underway and I'm pretty satisfied with how it's turning out so far. The thing about writing is the more you do it, the better you become, and I can see this better than some other stories I've written so far. The problem is I wrote those stories as a NEET, and now I'm working a pretty demanding job.

I always remember this thread and your words for inspiration, so thanks. What about you, anon? How is your stuff coming along?


 No.750991

File: 7bace26abd4d399⋯.jpg (188.52 KB, 720x1280, 9:16, week 3.jpg)

File: 395d13f2ccfc617⋯.jpg (288.53 KB, 960x1280, 3:4, week 1.jpg)

File: f470009412c2ace⋯.jpg (269.45 KB, 960x1280, 3:4, week 2.jpg)

Let me tell you about pain. Pain is what you get when you have to move out of your house and live in your no internet parent's house 5 days a week for 3 weeks for wagecuckery. Pain is leaving behind everything you work hard for and not be able to use, touch, or love. Pain is having no daylight time to do anything you fucking want. But after the pain is over, and the weekend comes, I fly. Fly home to my everything, my wife, bring her flowers, catch up on my backlog, play games, do everything. And it makes it all worth it. Don't give up Anon.

>>715426

Can fucking relate.


 No.751001

File: 9c6a4f1e1296eaa⋯.jpg (21.77 KB, 475x267, 475:267, otacon(1).jpg)

>writing VN

>been writing this VN for 5 years

>absolutely no progress

>no one will even read it if I do get my shit together because it is a meme character from 2010


 No.751003

>>751001

>meme character from 2010

Who is it?

I'd play it. How far have you gotten into it?


 No.751006

>>751003

Moetron.


 No.751011

>>750991

I'm imagining some local criminal realizing you're not home for days at a time, and breaking into your place to rob it. But then he gets in and he's met with nothing but waifu. Every surface plastered with her image, figures and merch lining shelves, body pillows tucked into matching sheets, and onaholes and lube set out on the desk. The thief backs out of the room slowly, terrified of the unknown he's stumbled upon. The next day he gets a job at Mcdonalds. Burglary was a mistake.


 No.751015

>>751006

I wasn't around for the meme, but I'd still play it.


 No.751040

I think I'm gonna set my current web novel aside for a bit and focus on something new. I've always wanted to write a post-apocalyptic scenario. What I have in mind right now is a civil war that eventually leads to world war 3, only demons and other magical elements/creatures creep themselves up into the conflict until they take over an entire metropolis for themselves, closing it off from the rest of the world. The story proper would take place some 20 years later from the perspective of a warrior girl with katana who can tame demons to a certain degree, and who wanders the ruined city in search of something... There will be companions, some magic (nothing too complicated because I don't want it to be the focus of the story), flashy action scenes (as flashy as they can be with words anyway), mechs, some romance... The heroine would wander the desolated city, find a few traces of civilization here and there, maybe help some common folk and overcome crises as she gets closer to her goal. There will be fights not only with demons, but also with soldiers and mercenaries sent by other countries to scavenge the land in search of resources (think STALKER). The city would have a few spots of peaceful civilization, to make things a bit more interesting as the people are forced to survive in a world at the mercy of demons and foreign powers, living among ruins and carefully avoiding battlezones.

I need to flesh this out (so that it makes more sense...) and pretty much all I thought of up until this point was simply because I thought it'd be cool. Yes, I do want there to be a fight between a mech and something like a Cyberdemon. I was heavily inspired by Doom when I came up with this.


 No.751065

>>751001

Sometimes the issue anon is that you try to make it perfect and you can't advance because you never allow anything that doesn't match your idea of perfection.

Try to simply go for it and even rush it first, even if it's the worst shit you could even imagine full of cliches.

Then once that is finished you will be able to notice what parts are better, what is actually better than you expect, what is utter shit, and move on. Your first project will never be good, neither the second, third, fourth. But after doing a few of them you will get faster and actually create good things.

If it is an old meme don't worry, embrace it and keep going. I'm sure some people would even read it just for nostalgia, simply don't put too much pressure on yourself.

>>737264

So I finally found the artists and we are getting shit together. I'm finishing writing some side-stuff and preparing a small demo. I think I will be able to make a proper announcement at least in a month or so, I'll post some art around here.


 No.751096

I was thinking about writing a story, but I don't really know what I'd do with it. It would be sorta like Don Quixote or Samurai Champloo in that it would star a wandering adventurer, except in this story the setting is modern day high-fantasy. It would star a naive little Goblin adventurer who wants to keep the spirit of being a high-fantasy hero alive in a world where everything else is just modern day. Humans, goblins, orcs, and skeletons can all be found in mundane office jobs, and the standard Dungeons & Dragons or RPG-style wandering heroes are sorta like vigilante heroes. However, I really wanted to go for something more silly and tongue-in-cheek, and I'm not sure if I have enough experience in the genre of high fantasy to be able to pull off good humor based on the genre, you know? I'd be able to write it if I started looking into those kinds of works now, but at this point it would feel dirty - Like, I wouldn't be reading works like that because I was interested in them, I just wanted more material to make jokes about. So I've dropped that idea. It might be able to become something good, I just don't have the ability to do it myself.


 No.751289

>>751065

Thanks I'll try my other problem is fatigue. I'll hit it great and put out some words for a few days or a week and then go months without doing a thing. Also the general amount of time it has been and distractions makes it even worse. i'll try though.


 No.751408

File: 0723024e0ad3f6b⋯.jpg (86.41 KB, 723x546, 241:182, What_Dit_wants.jpg)

>>750868

Sounds like you're getting everything together. I definitely understand the work thing. I'm a full time student and full time employee so it definitely cuts time down significantly. Just remember that your experiences help shape a world for what it is.

>What about you, anon? How is your stuff coming along?

I'll be honest, not too well. I had to drop foreign language classes completely to complete my technician classes, and I'm gaining weight when I'm supposed to be losing weight. I was gonna surprise anons with a ton of material, but then my hard drive crashed and I lost all of it. I'm running into issues writing for my WN because every time I start getting in the mood to write, I remember I'm gonna go into the military when I graduate (no other choice for my field of study/work short of working 60-70 hour work weeks for 5+ years, which I've already tried before and it was horrible), and have pretty much zero time to write at that point, and then I get depressed and don't feel like writing any more... Keep at it though, anon. Never give up! I might have to throw 6 years of my life away just to catch up with where other people start out at after Uni, but I've never given up.

>>750991

Godspeed, anon. Oilrigger? Pilot?

>>751065

>Try to simply go for it and even rush it first, even if it's the worst shit you could even imagine full of cliches.

This, a million times this, anons. To quote the HWNDU faggot, just do it. You will never be satisfied with a rough draft, but if you go back and constantly edit the rough draft before its even finished, you'll never get to your final draft because you'll be perfecting everything up to that point. You can see this with the differences between WNs and LNs all the time, since WNs were usually an author's rough draft before he took the time to flesh out his or her ideas.

>>751096

If you ever read my WN I'm writing, you won't notice that I stole shit from a bunch of sources (in most cases) unless you're actively aware of the fact. Writing is like inventing. There's a good Edison quote on inventing that I can't remember the exact phrasing for which pretty much says how scientists find stuff out and engineers research stuff, but it takes a good inventor to combine all that bullshit together to produce something worth a damn. You have to be a prodigy to truly write from your heart without inspiration from other sources, so you're better off (at least in your early drafts) just taking whatever comes to mind and using it in your writing. My experience comes from working in electronics manufacturing/maintenance, and DMing for a number of D&D online servers and tabletop games since I was 14. When you write about what you know instead of what you want it to be, the story will turn out better, it'll flow better, and in the long run you'll be happier about the results even if they require a major revision or two down the line. And while it can get the creative juices flowing, never write when you're high because you end up writing embarrassing side-stories that you come to regret later but feel are too tied to the story to actually retcon.

For anons who are curious (I haven't updated in a while and you shouldn't expect any major updates in the near future), my WN is over on: https://grapedrankblog.wordpress.com


 No.751454

>>751408

>For anons who are curious (I haven't updated in a while and you shouldn't expect any major updates in the near future), my WN is over on: https://grapedrankblog.wordpress.com

Bookmarked. I'm interested in what you got there, anon. Will definitely check it out later.


 No.751460

File: 9cba3b3c4ab39f6⋯.jpg (225.21 KB, 800x710, 80:71, fa065dffa51fb9787db02bd6ba….jpg)

>>751408

I'm not giving up and I'm following my dreams, like you anons told me to all those years ago. When I said I have to keep fit and wake up early for a demanding job, what I meant was I'm currently in the military. I dropped out of college, lived as a NEET and now this was the only recourse I had left. Despite the working on my 6 years, I won't stop working on my life's dream. A lot of my material is on a PC back home, so I feel your pain about losing it all. I had to start fresh after I got through basic. Don't you quit, either, anon. I'm in my mid-twenties and now I have to catch up to these kids as well. Don't let any amount of hell stop you. Get to where you need to be. Follow your dreams.

I went Guard and will work a civ job after tech school. I recommend Guard.

Don't worry about basic being too hard. Nothing the military throws at you will be worse than the existential suffering of everyday life.

>All that advice on writing.

Yes Yes Yes to it all. You really get it, man.


 No.751608

File: 2614c1b0b18a6ea⋯.png (86.92 KB, 800x500, 8:5, 2614c1b0b18a6ea7bf77cd85da….png)

>>751460

Had kind of a similar experience. Sounds like in a way, I'm following in your footsteps anon. I dropped out of Uni to support my little siblings, but got my associates in a trade skill only to realize I had the choice between working highschool diploma-level jobs with mandatory overtime for six years just to get into the entry-level technician jobs because dying boomers refuse to hire new blood/retire, or to go into the military. I'm heading into the Navy next year to work in crypto since I know the veteran status matters more/companies don't actually give a fuck about what you did in the military, so that will give me the choice between staying in electrical or branching into hardware security. Hoping to get stuck on a ship somewhere in order to travel, so I might unintentionally get to be in Japan or somewhere near there for multiple months if all goes well. If I can smuggle a camera or buy one cheap, I'll make sure to take lots of pictures of the places I go (if I go anywhere) for anons.

I wish the best for you anon, but I feel like I need to stop before this turns into blogposting rather than discussing what we're writing. Stay safe out there.


 No.753615

File: 0f439c2d8c5ffd3⋯.jpg (200.26 KB, 804x565, 804:565, Anne Happy v06 (2017) (Dig….jpg)

Do you think people should create for themselves or others?

Is there any meaning on making something if no one will see you but you? If no one will truly appreciate it?

Are you creating for yourself? Or for others?

Making something so that it can become a successful something? Or without care about that and it becoming yet another nameless fictional entry in this world? What would you want?

Do you ever dream of selling your project in Comiket and become a doujin artist? Finding a publisher for your book? Something else?


 No.753619

I actually had a day dream last night about a total OP webnovel kind of thing. It would be about a group of Japanese and German scientists in the last enclave of civilization fighting off the brown hoardes lead by their jewish rulers. Civilization develops time machines to travel back in time to the turning point, World War 2, and change things. The time machines are giant mecha.

It would be complete adolescent power fantasy at its worst and then descend into infighting and chaos as the individual pilits use their time mecha to fight for their own objective sense of justice.


 No.753648

File: 7e3aa07b1df8bb8⋯.jpg (165.03 KB, 900x571, 900:571, 2013-03-11-Art-Attack.jpg)

>>753615

Honestly I write for myself now. If I ever did release anything I wouldn't really care how bad it was considered or if it drew a dime. I used to care about those things but realized that mindset just puts a ton of unneeded pressure on yourself. Though having someone too write for can help give you the motivation when you you feel the act of writing might make you sick because you are so bad.


 No.753650

File: 27f65aec74533d8⋯.jpg (14.36 KB, 235x153, 235:153, someone help me from this ….JPG)

I'm about fifty pages from being done with the first draft. Then it'll be time to review everything over and over and over and over again.

May /a/ strike me down and the meidos permaban me if the first draft isn't done by the end of the year.


 No.753655

>>753615

Create for the thing you're creating. If you create for yourself, then you'll never get past the suffering, boring, tedious, unfun parts that come along with creation. If you create for other people you'll never feel satisfied by the recognition you do or do not receive, and their reaction to what you created will never live up to how you imagined it would be.

Create for the sake of the thing you're creating. Treat it like a child that you're bringing into the world and raising. This way you will be able to weather the suffering parts, the boring parts, the painful parts, the parts you just don't feel like doing. This way you will be able to bask in the fullness of completion and admire what you've created as a father admire's his grown child stepping out into the world.


 No.753657

>>753655

I like this a lot.


 No.753664

File: cbfbb76a2b89979⋯.mp4 (4.35 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, damn it feels good.mp4)

since I am an idiot who can't find threads in front of my face.

>Winter is almost here

Does anyone else feel like they are more productive when the weather turns cold?


 No.753666

>>753615

>Are you creating for yourself? Or for others?

I do it so by chance I vanish someone can have some insight into my thoughts and things I've written about if said writings survive.


 No.753670

File: f05d1bc7c76cc03⋯.png (271.21 KB, 521x303, 521:303, pizzagate breakthrough.png)

>>753666

That's depressing Satan.


 No.753758

File: dd8d8d616159220⋯.jpg (294.98 KB, 664x955, 664:955, 1337234402755.jpg)

/a/ have you ever written something and it made you start crying like a bitch?


 No.753795

>>753615

I think there's some incorrect interpretation about "having fun in your work" that makes everyone feel depressed, specially in writing.

People identify fun as when playing video games, watching anime, laughing, having a good time. That's fun for sure, but that's like short period fun.

Writing and any other work is more about fulfilling yourself as a person, and to do that some suffering is involved always. You must suffer, struggle, fight to get something done, but then you see development as a person and as a creator.

One of our basic instics is to survive, but we are humans and we have gone beyond surviving just for the sake of it, we also need to survive at another level, let it be social or personal. It's the same reason why normalfags are so obsessed about relantionships, gfs and all that shit, they need approval from people from outside to confirm their own survival, their own personality, their own self.

When creating something you are basically putting part of you into the world. Even if it's private and only for your, you are still giving shape to your own imagination, life and inner world, so it feels like you are more alive than before, like a confirmation than there's actually something alive inside of you that gives you some peace.

I don't think that writing is "fun" if we are using the general concept people use fun usually. Writing is pain, is suffering, is struggle. But during this process you can feel some development and you can feel yourself becoming someone, creating a personality, together with the world and characters you are brining to life.

Once you get used to that sensation, then all the other "fun" starts becoming a bit more worthless, is still fun, but not really that important, and you even feel bad if you are not creating and unispired

I may not look happy, but I do feel alive.


 No.754663

File: f1d21593a716006⋯.gif (145.39 KB, 450x450, 1:1, 4c1c92a0c18b06874f02a2d619….gif)

I just had the horrible realization that cowboy/farmer lolis aren't really a thing... Would anons be interested in a western WN about farmer/cowboy lolis doing farmer/cowboy things?


 No.754666

>>754663

Honestly, that as a premise doesn't sound too interesting but I've been sold on more obscure stuff before. As long as the writing's good, anything can work. If you want to write about something you're interested in, you could just write something for the otaku-types who already share the interest and just use cute girls as a vehicle, but if you want to get other people into it you're going to have to think of how you can sell them on the idea instead using story and characters.


 No.755283

>>754666

I agree with Satan at our levels we should probably focus on our strengths and write for a small audience like /a/.

Of interest it is national write a novel month. The Goal is to write a 50k word novel by the end of November. Anyone want to do this on /a/ since I feel the actual website is a Jewish scheme.


 No.755290

>>754663

There should be an evil bandito loli who rides a mule and is used for comic relief.


 No.755326

>>755283

Sure. I started up a new story recently and it's come along fairly nicely. I don't think I'll get to 50k by the end of the month, but I'll be around if you want to share work.


 No.755328

>>755283

Yeah I got about 5 pages written about two lolis fighting it out with banditos and realized it kinda sucked... Gonna keep it up anyways


 No.755329

File: 3061089efedaf04⋯.gif (171.83 KB, 640x640, 1:1, pooping pttery.gif)

>>755326

I do for once in my life. Right now I'm working on an outline. It's about an /a/non with a dash of /pol/ who goes full NEET. He is given the power to conquer the world by a Goddess of conquest. However being anon he agrees but then never gets started and instead fucks around.


 No.755330

>>755290

Holy fuck did you read my mind???


 No.755423

File: 8d207fd211ce703⋯.jpg (967.53 KB, 1200x1296, 25:27, 65743300_p0.jpg)

For anyone needing a reason to start writing something, November is technically National Novel Writing Month (NaNoWriMo)


 No.755424

>>755283

Fuck me, someone beat me to it.


 No.755706

>>755424

Ah sorry about that.

Anyone taking part in /a/ NaNoWriMo what is your novel gonna be about?


 No.755779

File: eefe0f2bed75dfa⋯.jpg (83.06 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, loli train 4.jpg)

>>755329

Well fuck that piece of shit. I dropped it when I realized I could write a decent character. Instead.

I'm writing about a guy traveling through a fantasy world doing odd jobs. Who meets a loli vagabond that tries to rob him.


 No.755780

>>755779

*couldn't write a decent character.


 No.755794

>>755779

A bounty hunter and a sassy loli companion could make for a comfy story.


 No.755798

>>755794

It's a comfy story. The guy doesn't talk about his past but keeps a sword with him which he seems really adept at using. The loli has never left the town she lives in. I'm working on the whole show don't tell part of story telling and writing scenes. Also they have a horse who is a bro and the main character talks to because he has been a lonely fuck for so long... the horse can not talk it is a horse.


 No.755799

>>755798

Didn't mean to sage.


 No.755801

File: 1e6936c78707c52⋯.jpg (70.04 KB, 375x441, 125:147, 1e6936c78707c52ff4492e9bf1….jpg)

I'm doing a fanfix of re:creators, it's a heavy rewrite dropping some characters and reworking powers.

I've got about 20 pages done so far I think I'll link the first chapter here when it's finished and edited and see what people think of it.


 No.755802

File: f33c44e1160644c⋯.jpg (272.43 KB, 813x645, 271:215, 8dd232091d4f8e853a6.jpg)

>>755798

A lot of your stories sound pretty interesting. Do you have them posted anywhere online?


 No.755803

>>755802

I never fucking write them. To be more exact I get a few thousand words in realize I suck and either stop writing or forget to write for months on end to the point it just never goes anywhere.

Though that Pyromancer one did almost get to 10k words which was nice... and then I went off the fucking rails and just rewrote the final fight in from Battle Tendency which I was just going to delete anyway. I might get back to that one.


 No.755804

File: 4cccf8367ee63a3⋯.gif (1.96 MB, 360x360, 1:1, 1507308163910.gif)

>>755801

I find fanfiction can be the best source of ideas. If I start thinking up a fanfiction it usually ends with completely original characters and setting. It's a fun exercise.


 No.756265

File: ec84a85d0f3700d⋯.jpg (111.07 KB, 750x1000, 3:4, aya.jpg)

Have you made any progress today /a/?


 No.756280

File: 26f4e086e391584⋯.jpg (116.23 KB, 698x658, 349:329, 26f4e086e391584884b8cd6ad5….jpg)


 No.756289

File: a080ea4ebb83817⋯.gif (96.74 KB, 500x284, 125:71, 23c91cd898cfeca8c9985c131c….gif)

>>756265

Very little...


 No.756291

File: 30b1aa430def0b8⋯.gif (2.91 MB, 538x302, 269:151, 359dc5d1a22343f0a6485b4347….gif)

How am I supposed to write convincing characters or romance, when I have contact with neither? I feel so empty inside...

Post last edited at

 No.756292

>>756265

I knocked out 1000 words. The Cart Driver and the loli have met.

>>756280

>>756289

Ganbatte.


 No.756294

>>756291

Writing a convincing character isn't hard. They just need to be relateable in some way.


 No.756307

File: 2700702aca6fc6b⋯.gif (1.83 MB, 500x639, 500:639, 2700702aca6fc6ba1d3de88abd….gif)

>>756265

Fuck nah. I spent the day puking/shitting my guts out, going to work despite this, and watching youtube videos about how wasps get stuck inside of fig fruits to lay their eggs. I haven't made any progress this month. I'll probably work on it a bit tomorrow.


 No.756312

File: c93e987e23a5e08⋯.png (101.52 KB, 300x250, 6:5, ditditditditdit3.png)

>>756291

Just treat it like day-to-day interactions or how you imagine people reacting in your favorite anime. It'll come with time or with anons criticizing you.

>>755803

Post it on wordpress or something, nigger. If I can post my cringe-tier WN online, so can you. See >>751408


 No.756318

File: 458969ee1f09726⋯.png (201.4 KB, 491x800, 491:800, 1453947742642.png)

>>756312

I'll post the cart driver and loli adventures when I hit 10k words okay.

Most of my previous shit is garbage because I wrote it in a weird script style because Visual Novels and I don't want to be critiqued for a style I am not even using anymore.


 No.756675

File: baa4b3c46f9e23c⋯.jpg (79.52 KB, 400x569, 400:569, ayaya.jpg)

It's the weekend do you have lots of plans to work on your projects?


 No.756687

>>756675

I'm working on a mini-project to see how well I can combine anime with the vaporwave aesthetic. I'll share content if I find it to be worthwhile.


 No.756705

>>756675

I've gotta be up at 5AM for work and gotta work on homework, so probably not.


 No.756723

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>Should have been writing

>instead spent the last few hours watching dumb Love Live youtube videos

... It was worth it.


 No.756743

File: db4cefd9b9c3a29⋯.jpg (66.45 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, 1505894152346.jpg)

>writing a loli

>lolis dialogue sounds more like a teenager

Fuck. The dream is dead.


 No.756748

File: 34d1fd953481186⋯.png (562.34 KB, 817x807, 817:807, 1.png)

File: b9d6ee10dbf9878⋯.png (431.83 KB, 718x730, 359:365, 2.png)

File: a8e5f671ac3f5d2⋯.png (486.04 KB, 732x759, 244:253, 3.png)

Do you guys get better motivated depending on the seasons? For me I feel more energized when it's cold and Winter. Heat just makes me lazy. My PC runs cooler during Winter and modeling is just a comfier experience.

>>751408

>Oilrigger? Pilot?

No just shitty commute programmer.


 No.757139

>>756743

I had this same problem, but with a shota. Decided to make a time skip to fix the age.


 No.757141

>>756723

What's with all the Jojo + LL!?


 No.757142

>>756265

Haven't made progress since a short shitty midi on September 22nd, and the last one that could actually be called finished was on the 10th of that same month.


 No.757146

>>756675

Plans, sure. I made a little progress today, but I feel like I'm no where near getting done. I've been lost on this project for a while, so I keep just writing scenes that come to mind within the world, but with no actual goal in mind. Somehow things are beginning to connect, though. It's strange. Even if you don't know where you're going with a story, it just seems to come together in the end. It's like the statue is inside the marble, and I just chip away at it until I see it's shape.


 No.757152

>>756748

Around this time of year I get inspired to make things that feel dark, secret, and solitary. I don't make anything, though.


 No.757182

File: 741668e3c38aa73⋯.png (38.72 KB, 165x228, 55:76, 00055.png)

>Exhausting all ideas 15,000 words in

>Reaching that point where you don't know what you're even talking about

>Story rapidly mutates to a point where you forget what you were doing in the first place

Make it stop


 No.757257

>>757182

>>755803

I don't understand you guys, 10k-15k is a ton of words to burn out on. I've got 13 pages typed and it's 5.7k words (and like 46 pages written), you guys got pretty far you should pick it back up.

I believe in you guys you've come a significant way.


 No.757258

File: 42f35c1c2a4fb21⋯.jpg (122.5 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, f1e568b6c67391a4c1e3380015….jpg)

>>757182

Don't abort your story every story has a right to be shown to the world.


 No.757537

File: 738fe634d37288c⋯.png (850.23 KB, 593x997, 593:997, crying kaga.png)

>>757257

Do you realy mean that anon...


 No.757539

File: 3423bf7991a84d9⋯.png (770.32 KB, 750x862, 375:431, 1484418289606.png)

>>757258

If there was a way to completely erase from memory some of the stories I tried to publish when I was an edgy kid, I would.


 No.757623

File: 9f6ba4501b6a3da⋯.png (671.96 KB, 1255x703, 1255:703, these feels.png)

>finish watching episode 6 of Imouto Sae Ireba Ii

>mfw that ending

Anyone in the thread who wants to write should watch it.


 No.757628

File: 12c04155ca8254b⋯.jpg (14.74 KB, 255x188, 255:188, 0b366f8f6bb74f238f51bbf277….jpg)

>>757258

Is the written word the 1d to 2d?

>Is the best waifu the waifu you write yourself?


 No.757635

File: fd10568ae17e501⋯.png (37.98 KB, 620x790, 62:79, stallman 1D.png)

>>757628

1d I believe.


 No.757644

>>757537

You've made good headway, you just need to give it another attempt.


 No.757672

File: 1fca728a877a4d4⋯.jpg (278.19 KB, 864x1338, 144:223, __takamiya_nasuno_teekyuu_….jpg)

File: 3e47e8bd0e35752⋯.png (629 B, 50x400, 1:8, 1d.png)

>>757628

I imagined a 1D girl would look something like this (upscaled). Wouldn't a girl that only exists as a verbal description and have no visual representation be a 0D girl?


 No.757676

File: 1b1daa2ccaea6b8⋯.jpg (28.83 KB, 256x256, 1:1, 1DPD.jpg)

>>757672

technically you cam map a 1D space to a 2D space via a space filling curve. so your 2D waifu might just be a 1D whore in disguise


 No.757678

>>757676

Wouldn't 1D girls be even more pure than 2D girls?


 No.757679

File: 1b92e0f564099c1⋯.jpg (209 KB, 715x1000, 143:200, 880888ef04eb08023da76d43a2….jpg)

>>757635

If someone can be loved as 1D. Does that mean someone can love by loving my post?


 No.757680

>>757678

wrong. odd number dimension girls are always complete whores. Think about it.

zero D girls are singular, no volume so super petite, can't leave you because there is no other space in the entire universe apart from her.

1D girls, only cares about length (degenerate), pretends to be something she isn't (aka 2D space filling curve), sharp knees

2D girls, well documented as being pure

3D girls, well documented as being aids bags

4D girls, can see inside you (metaphorically and literally), infinity many 3D projections of herself (so infinity better than all 3D women), can help you build a space empire by folding space and making wormholes for you

but the best girls are of course fractal demensional girls


 No.757681

>>757679

We concluded that there is a 4D autist who wrote our entire universe as a shitty doujin ripoff of some other, better, canon universe -- and we're not really the popular kind of doujin that sells well at 4D comiket either, it's literally just that one 4D guy and we're all his waifu.


 No.757709

File: 7ab83cd61b46321⋯.jpg (81.02 KB, 933x975, 311:325, Trump-chan_orange backgrnd.jpg)

>>757680

absolutely brilliant


 No.757737

File: d725ecb8112d4bb⋯.jpg (54.4 KB, 500x484, 125:121, d725ecb8112d4bb476e1f8b7e8….jpg)

>>757680

...

Why aren't we writing this story right now!


 No.757789

File: fbaea21c329e03d⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 282.12 KB, 3016x2352, 377:294, dimension high.png)

>>757709

>>757737

ok so you made me throw something together

yes i can't draw

yes they are traces

yes is paint


 No.757798

>>757680

>fractal

>Fractale

Yamakan confirmed for saving anime.


 No.757799

>>757623

I thought it was shit. I didn't pick it up. Is it actually not shit?


 No.757828

>>757799

No it is not shit. It might be the sleeper anime of the season after the last episode. **Where one of the characters anime airs which is shit compared to his LN and we see him break down because of shitposting. Also one of the girls was bullied so hard in highschool she became a shut in and considered suicide.


 No.757861

>>715053

Is making a few edits in photoshop every day considered doing work on a project since I am enhancing my photoshop skills or am I just trying to justify making shitty edits?


 No.757887

>>757861

Original content is original content.


 No.757987

I think I may have figured out a premise for another story. It sounds dumb, but I think if I do it right, it can be interesting. Basically, it's set in the near future where people who can seemingly switch minds with others have appeared, for unknown reasons and methods. This switchers are, for the most part, malicious and use their abilities to evade the law, cause trouble for others, or ruin the unwitting host's life, whereas the host, now occupying their assailant's body, is helpless in trying to return to his original self, and cannot go to the authorities for fear of being detained. When the problem starts to deescalate, a special investigation force is formed to track down switchers, detain and interrogate them, or eliminate them if they are too hostile. I'm still thinking of the characters, but I think I'll go with an ex-detective who joins this force as the main character. Not sure about personality, but that will come later. Also, there might be a kyonyuu loli that needs protecting.

What do you think, /a/? I think it sounds a bit like Snatcher, but i like the idea and want to explore it.


 No.757994

>>757987

Call it "A Tale of Seven Proxies"


 No.757995

>>757994

Well played, anon. Well played.


 No.758013

>>757987

I think it is a cool idea I'll write a short story about it.


 No.758528

>>758013

>>757987

Here I made a thing.

https://pastebin.com/XEKDrD81

Compliments or criticism would be greatly appreciated.


 No.758790

File: 018908993d02315⋯.jpg (1.92 MB, 1190x1684, 595:842, IMG_0313.JPG)

Did you get a lot of work done today /a/?


 No.758792

>>758790

Not really, but thanks for asking!


 No.758793

I really want to start writing a novel about incest since I'm a huge incestfag, but I don't work without pressure. Always procrastinating. Probably will never do it, but it's nice to idealize. Don't know if I write it in English or in my native language.


 No.758804

>>758793

>but I don't work without pressure. Always procrastinating. Probably will never do it,

I know this fucking feel all to well. The only advice I could give is just do it.


 No.758925

>>758793

submit a rough draft or the opening chapter to me before next Friday (24th) or delete any files you've made on it and drop the project forever.


 No.759088

File: c2d64a277f22a0d⋯.gif (3.63 MB, 500x281, 500:281, c2d64a277f22a0d5cd9d543d92….gif)

>>758790

Made a lot of progress. Soon I will realize my dream!


 No.759093

File: b111cd2ea06f9f2⋯.jpg (86.84 KB, 800x695, 160:139, boss.jpg)

>>759088

Same here. Pretty soon I'll have a script and- and the VN will be ready...

Are you watching me Moetron Devs...


 No.760070

File: 59cef8009cefb78⋯.png (339.84 KB, 580x720, 29:36, 1446922282988.png)

Is someone gathering submissions or do I just post a .pdf?


 No.760384

>>760070

Post a .pdf.


 No.760385

File: 6305fe8eb22b124⋯.jpg (83.45 KB, 350x1056, 175:528, 1332093487536.jpg)

What's your excuse for not writing today /a/?


 No.760395

>>760385

But I did.


 No.760399

>>760385

Work. Lack of sleep. Writing a loli scene for CoC.


 No.760446

>>760385

I wrote an after action.


 No.761390

>>758793

>>758925

one day left


 No.762319

File: a3bd8d05e81c06c⋯.jpg (61.43 KB, 640x480, 4:3, mpv-shot0063.jpg)

I'm writing a story about being trapped in a world with which you have no connection, and yet choosing to fight for it.

But I decided long ago to write in an outsider's perspective. It's my first time not writing in first person and I can't get it to flow well. How am I supposed to express this feeling of disfranchisement when I can't delve into the minds of my characters? How the hell do you write in this perspective? I wanted to challenge myself by going out of my comfort zone, but I feel like my writing is useless like this.

I chose this perspective because the point of the story is a feeling of disconnection with the world, so I thought maybe the reader would feel disconnected with the characters or something if I wrote out of their perspectives. The result is reading it is boring and writing it is even more boring. I got what I wanted with the disconnection, I guess, but how can I write about fighting for something you're disconnected with when I can't even force myself to write for something I'm disconnected with. Does that make sense?


 No.762330

>>762319

>How am I supposed to express this feeling of disfranchisement when I can't delve into the minds of my characters?

By doing just that. Let your narrator take a step back and don't try to open a window into your characters' minds. Convey that feeling of disenfranchisement by letting the reader himself experience it with, not through, your characters. Leave the reader guessing what the characters feelings and thoughts are beyond what you can show them through dialogue between characters and direct actions.

However, even if you write in the 3rd person, you can still give insight into any character very easily. By having the narrator report or a character monologue e.g. However, to convey the feelings you want to convey you would have to be selective in whose introspection you present (as in only the MC's) which is a perfectly valid narrative strategy, but that might feel cheap and cheesy so you might want to experiment with what I mentioned in my first paragraph and employ the idea of "show, don't tell" in your writing. I think this may be an excellent chance for it to be used to great effect.

>so I thought maybe the reader would feel disconnected with the characters or something if I wrote out of their perspectives

That will just force the reader to identify with the character through whose perspective they observe the story.


 No.762335

>>762319

Another way would be to do the direct opposite of what I said in >>762330 and absolutize one character's perspective by remaining inside their introspection throughout the whole story and depriving the reader of any unfiltered second perspective this way. An example that utilizes this method to great effect would be Fräulein Else by Arthur Schnitzler.


 No.766843

File: 31d6fdec90d61c4⋯.jpg (131.84 KB, 960x720, 4:3, [EG]Mobile_Suit_Gundam_12_….jpg)

>Decide to read to help my writing

>Choose Welcome to the NHK

>Get so depressed I can't write anymore and just spend all my free time under my blanket or having a smoke


 No.766844

File: 97aa452d6921217⋯.gif (643.76 KB, 500x281, 500:281, 97aa452d6921217270960ef6d5….gif)

>>766843

I've been too depressed and unmotivated to write anything for the past couple months. I have a few ideas, but I just don't know how I can put them on paper. I tell myself I should just write to practice, but I'm lazy and end up doing nothing. Although, if I had to pick a theme to write about, it would be death, because the single constant desire I've had in my entire life has been the desire to die. I've thought and wished for it so much, made plans, etc., that I can't get it out of my head, so I thought I'd write a story where death, or the feeling that death is the only way out, is one of the central themes. I might as well take advantage of them instead of letting my suicidal tendencies cripple me.


 No.767244

File: b95cd15d4024787⋯.png (707.94 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, bg_020a.png)

File: 339f9463ff21f54⋯.png (670.04 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, bg_020b.png)

File: aac6b6317f9dc8f⋯.png (412.7 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, bg_020c.png)

You know you're in deep shit when you start describing the weather or the sky.


 No.767275

File: 890ff4466f688e2⋯.jpg (373.13 KB, 1857x963, 619:321, 1491189642551-4.jpg)

Why have so many of you chosen to write? I notice many of you suffer from lack of motivation, and I think it's because of the medium you've selected. High quality works of writing are usually very long, and take lots of planning. It's more difficult to feel the joy of sharing your work when it's written, unless you actually complete the damn thing and publish. If you're passionate about writing I won't tell you to stop, but if you're trying to create beauty and bring some meaning to life, drawfagging and music making seem to reward the creator more frequently. It's quick or instantaneous to enjoy the final product, so sharing it with others or even enjoying it yourself is much easier. Moreover, the crafting process is more cathartic since it's more application of technique than racking your brain over whether the dots in your narrative actually connect. I've done a little drawing and writing, but music is my focus, so let me know if I'm wrong.


 No.767286

>>767275

>drawfagging and music making seem to reward the creator more frequently

Drawing makes me want to fucking kill myself because I actually want to be good at it. Music is pretty comfy, probably because I have no idea what I'm doing.

>It's quick or instantaneous to enjoy the final product, so sharing it with others or even enjoying it yourself is much easier

Most people tend to wake up the next morning and see a horrible mistake that makes them loathe their artwork, though how much it cripples them varies from artist to artist. Some can't stand looking at their past works, which is why so many galleries go missing or works get deleted. They also tend to go missing during a project because what they made one day is far worse than what they made the next, and they want to go back and redo what they've already done, going on a loop until they finally just give up. Everything they make isn't good enough and they always say "I suck" because they know they can always do better.

>Why have so many of you chosen to write? I notice many of you suffer from lack of motivation, and I think it's because of the medium you've selected. High quality works of writing are usually very long, and take lots of planning.

Short stories exist, and it doesn't make them any easier. In the same way a mistake in an artwork annoys artists, the way words are organized and how events unfold can cripple the writer, resulting in constant scraps and rewrites to the point they don't want to do it. A common sentiment writers share is that they either drink themselves to death or commit suicide because they can't find the right words to express shit.

The problem isn't the medium, it's that people want to make something good, something that they and others can enjoy. This is difficult in writing because you're always wondering if something is boring, if there's a hole somewhere, if something is funny or unfunny, and you're always getting new ideas from buttfuck nowhere and you want to start that instead. You read through it once, it's alright. You read through it twice, it's the worst fucking thing ever. You read through it a third time, you might as well throw it away and start something new. A similar thing happens in drawing, where people produce a metric ton of scraps in between complete images. Although they can produce it in great numbers, I think a great majority of them are never satisfied with their work, causing them to either draw more or give up entirely. As taste develops for a craft, the less acceptable things become. Because of this taste, nothing ever gets done, and everyone hates themselves.


 No.767290

>>767286

>Short stories exist, and it doesn't make them any easier.

Some writers actually find short stories harder than novels, it can be difficult to make a good story start and end in the same time a novel would be just beginning.


 No.767305

>>767286

Well that sounds even more stressful than I imagined. I'm thankful for having a cozy hobby like music, but I'm sure if I ever get good enough, I'll become neurotic and obsessive at squeezing the highest quality out of my work as you explained. Right now it's rewarding enough to make something that sounds even slightly enjoyable to listen to.


 No.767322

>>761390

>>758925

Are you still there, anon? I just remembered about this because I saw the thread on the first page. I may do it.


 No.767330

File: 87f0e17a7231f6c⋯.gif (296.69 KB, 500x393, 500:393, 87f0e17a7231f6ce5ed9d65b3d….gif)

>>767244

>My entire story is about this


 No.767338

File: cad66addd54daf4⋯.png (185.98 KB, 1534x688, 767:344, writefag pain.png)

File: 78717356d8a9256⋯.jpg (78.68 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, mpv-shot0028.jpg)

>>767286

>Short stories exist, and it doesn't make them any easier.

>A common sentiment writers share is that they either drink themselves to death or commit suicide because they can't find the right words to express shit.

>you're always wondering if something is boring, if there's a hole somewhere, if something is funny or unfunny, and you're always getting new ideas from buttfuck nowhere and you want to start that instead.

>As taste develops for a craft, the less acceptable things become.

>Because of this taste, nothing ever gets done, and everyone hates themselves.

Fuck, dude. You get me like no one else.


 No.767339

File: c72a43c367731fa⋯.gif (1.3 MB, 320x213, 320:213, 1510988098475.gif)

>>767286

Fuck. You're right.


 No.767374

File: 9313c533010dab7⋯.jpg (13.5 KB, 480x368, 30:23, 18222392_120536691833877_9….jpg)

>>767286

Although what you say is mostly true, there are a few differences between crafts. In this case I think the satisfaction and learning curves for drawing and writing are too different.

Drawing is really hard to learn and to see "acceptable" results. While anyone and his mother can "write" even if it's poorly. However the jump from acceptable to "master" is relatively easier in drawing compared to writing where is almost impossible to consider yourself a master.

What I mean here is that there's some objectivity when you draw. Human proportions are human proportions and getting them right is something you can analyze and be sure they are right unless you get into abstract shit but that's something that doesn't concern us right now.

You see tons of drawfags out there with their portfolios, patreons, twitters, deviantart and other shit taking commissions even if their drawings are not the very best, and even if they know they are not really that good they at least are making some money out of it. That means that people validates your work and gives you the message that at least you don't fucking suck balls.

Now how many writers can say the same? Unless you are political or controversial writer making articles (again, just like with abstract art this is not what I'm talking about here) or any of that shit, living out of writing novels, short stories or anything else is extremely hard. The worst part is that there's almost not objectivity that determines if something you do is "good". In drawing you get human proportions, shadows, light, shit that you can just fucking look at reality and see if they match to at least know that you are going in "the good direction" even if the total mastery of it contains all kind of difficulties. But in writing?

There's no guide to good writing. Beyond spelling and grammatical mistakes there's literally no way to make sure something is good. Your text may be perfectly clear and understandable but still suck balls, you may follow all kind of "techniques" and still suck balls, you may ignore all the fucking techniques in the world and become a super star best seller loved in the entire world.

With writing we sometimes enjoy or like things, but absolutely nobody knows why or what correct formula it follows. A lot of people have tried to find it with stuff like the hero's journey and shit like that, but you can find thousands of examples that break those rules every time.

That's why writing is so stressful. It's a job that is a lot more complicated to consider yourself "a writer" because there are some many "writers" out there that are a fucking joke that it makes your job hard to consider "serious". And it's not like other artists where you can prepare a portfolio and get some instant results or examples out to clients, the only way to show your worth is by becoming famous and get readers to you somehow in a hyper-competitive market with a really reduced public to sell even if you go for particular niches.


 No.768265

File: 51248144e895e6b⋯.jpg (30.59 KB, 848x480, 53:30, Umineko-no-naku-koro-ni-ep….jpg)

>>767374

There is no set formula for writing, but that doesn't mean it has no standards or that people can't actually improve. I do agree that it's not something you can immediately look at and pass judgment, but I refuse to believe there's no objective measurement on the quality of written works. This isn't about being able to weave a story because, frankly, anybody can do that. Most of the time -- and this is especially true for novels and short stories -- it's not the actual plot itself that matters, but how it's presented. If the story was all that mattered we would be content with reading summaries. So, when it comes to written stories, what matters is exactly that: the writing. Or rather, it's the storytelling. The way the words are combined, how they're put together, how lines of dialogue relate to each other, how each character and scene is presented, the ideal use of syntax and word play to convey meaning much like how a painter uses a combination of colors to show us a scene or a particular moment in time.

Anybody can boot up a word processor or pick up a pencil and a piece of paper and start writing. But how many people can convey their stories in a way that's truly unique and memorable? How many people have enough knowledge of preferred language that they know how to best make an impact to the reader? Sure, there's no fixed formula aside from understand grammar and word functions, but that doesn't mean that we can't improve on how to convey stories and meaning. There are even ways to improve on how to get yourself at a good working pace (although one could argue that this is applicable to pretty much any craft)

That being said, take what I say with a grain of salt because, like a lot of other people here, I'm constantly beating myself up over my lack of motivations, and I have decided I would kill myself by the end of next year should things not improve for me they won't.

>>767286

This anon gets it. Wanting to create something is one thing, but constantly noticing little problems in your work, even if it's good for your long-term improvement, can be mentally and emotionally draining. It completely ruins your motivation because you realize that, no matter what you do, it's shit. Even others like it, it's shit. It's shit and you're afraid of others' criticism because you go to places like /a/ and everyone can be so damn critical of anime with good reason, you're afraid you might one day witness this kind of criticism geared towards you, and while you are aware that it'll be perfect for self-improvement, are you prepared to deal with the harshness of reality? You couldn't even deal with the outside world, so you become a NEET or you turn to freelance work making chump change. You don't know how to deal with harsh criticism, which means you're afraid you'll never improve, and you know you're the harshest critic of your own work already, fully aware that what you're producing is trash. So, you give up. You're tired much like how you're tired of everything else. Life is trash as is and you don't want to come off as a whiner. So, you decide to become passive about it. You decide not to take an active role in your aspirations, but to treat them passively like delusions.

That's why so many of us want to fucking die every goddamn day of every goddamn week of every goddamn month. It's a pointless struggle. And I don't have any words that can help anybody get out of their slump. I just hope some of you can relate, at least, and I hope some of you have it in you to complete your works one day, or make working on them a habit. Life is shit and we live in a world where not even truth matters. But I hope you all can find the strength in you to keep it up. I'm sure there's at least one person out there who would love to read your work, even if it's about the weather (>>767244, >>767330). Me, I'm bailing. Maybe I won't, but I'm tired as is. Maybe I'll show up here again and actually show something I've made when I'm not drunk on my own self-pity. I'm not even sure where I'm going with this. I think I just figured it was as good a time as any to put something here and let the autism flow. In the meantime, you all keep up on your good work.


 No.768298

>>767322

sorry time is up. I'm coming round your house later today. prepare for the storm maggot.


 No.768823

>>767244

Some authors and other people who give writing advice advise against doing this, but to be quite honest it's pretty hard to set a scene without describing the weather, it's the thing that's most obvious when you step outside and it helps to convey the aesthetic of a scene. Though it can be over relied on or poorly implemented like anything else in a story.


 No.769616

File: 4d8e17b74e51b00⋯.jpg (22.29 KB, 317x302, 317:302, 14122017.JPG)

I have one last, short chapter to go. It's the conclusion to the story, with a tiny bit of an aftermath. It's not the most important chapter, it simply ties up those loose ends. Even so, I've broken 186,000 words so far, and juuuust broke the 300 manuscript page point.

It'll probably never get published with this word count, but that's not really an issue. It'll be done by the end of the year.

I don't have a title for it yet. I honestly thought I would by now.

>>767275

>High quality works of writing are usually very long, and take lots of planning.

That's most of the fun. In my life I've found that the most fun things are those that take the largest amount of planning and work, even if they're overall not that difficult. What I write isn't that difficult to come up with or create. My largest written work is simply the recounting of 0.14% of my life, and yet it's one of the things I'm most proud of. I've accomplished a lot of things, including a STEM degree and some fairly hefty trade certifications, but I'm still somehow more proud of what I've written. Even though it's pretty bad, even though I can't go a paragraph without editing something. Simply because it's something I've dumped a lot of effort into.

>It's more difficult to feel the joy of sharing your work when it's written, unless you actually complete the damn thing

That's also half the fun.

>and publish.

That's not so fun.

>all the effortposts in this reply chain

I love all of you writefags for making /a/ a happier and more interesting place to be in. I always feel a bit guilty about letting my posts drag on and on, but knowing that you're around always makes me feel an iota better.

>>767244

Nonsense, the weather makes up an integral part of daily life, one that often defines how the day's going to go. How many times have you woken up in the dead of winter, looked out the window, found that everything is covered in ice and a deep fog has set about, and suddenly the entire tone of the day has been determined by your horrendous drive to work? How about all the times when it's nice and sunny out and maybe you'll take a nice trip innawoods today? How about those weeks of unseasonal rain, or sunshine, or that blizzard? And the sky is also an integral part of life, seeing as how it makes up about half of your available view.

>>767374

>There's no guide to good writing. Beyond spelling and grammatical mistakes there's literally no way to make sure something is good. Your text may be perfectly clear and understandable but still suck balls, you may follow all kind of "techniques" and still suck balls, you may ignore all the fucking techniques in the world and become a super star best seller loved in the entire world.

This is the single biggest fear any writer can have. You can write the best prose and find it unpublishable, while some fucking trashman is making bestsellers. Or you can find yourself on the other side of things, writing works that you know are complete and utter donkey turds yet are netting you enough money to drink yourself to death while a hundred young unpublished authors whom are objectively better than you are asking for your autograph during book signings. Writing is one of the most stressful things you can do.


 No.771360

File: 963c309644e3e8f⋯.jpg (21.27 KB, 320x300, 16:15, fucking wow.JPG)

Finished the first complete draft of my book.

314 pages, ~190700 words.

It's time to review and review and review and review and edit and edit and edit and edit. But the first draft is complete.

It took me just under a year. It could have been done faster, but I'm glad I didn't rush or force the writing process. Sometimes I'd write pages upon pages at one in the morning. Sometimes I'd get the overwhelming urge to sit down and write, I'd spit out a few sentences or maybe a paragraph, then realize that it was all I had to say for the day. Sometimes I'd spend a week just mulling things over before sitting down and typing it all out in one day. Out of the 17 chapters in there, I'd say that about 3-4 were written in a single sitting.

I might have a great title for it.


 No.771369

File: 8fceee032494107⋯.png (221.78 KB, 678x623, 678:623, Variation.png)

>>756748

>after the holiday season I'm going to be commuting to work via subway.

>God help me I hope public transportation is good.

>>715053

Alright Barrier Cunt here's the deal: I'll work on my drawings and post artistic depictions of your likeness in about a week if you show up in my dreams and give me comfy sleep.


 No.771375

File: 2a7a73c451080b6⋯.jpg (44.62 KB, 655x495, 131:99, vonnegut.jpg)

You know what's the right way to create shit if you're a useless lazy slob, /a/?

Here's the secret: Whatever good idea you have at the moment, take full advantage of it and work on it as much as you can before you get bored, even just a little, then just leave it to sit somewhere for a few weeks/months while you work on other projects.

The point is so that you can come back much later in a fresher state of mind where you have more ideas and a motivation to finish it quickly (since it's already half-done).

It's much better to do this, than to burn yourself out and forever abandon something that might you could have completed with a bit more organization.


 No.771400

>>771360

>>769616

Average word count for a starting novel is 80000 words, you wackos.


 No.771418

How do you become able to draw manga/comics without being tempered from childhood to draw all day every day? I can draw a couple pages at best before getting utterly tired of the whole idea of drawing a comic. It's so time consuming, especially if you want to do backgrounds.


 No.771637

If you can only do a few pages then try and condense your story to fit into like 3 pages, if you really care about it then you should be able to expand upon it later.

Most mangakas just focus on drawing a few basic things and get help from assistants to do all the boring/tedious stuff. If I were you, I would plan it well from the start and draw a really rough sketch of every page in one go, then I'd work on separate things every day, eg:

>day 1 - character lineart

>day 2 - details/textures

>day 3 - backgrounds

>day 4 - shading/effects

>day 5 - speech bubbles


 No.771638


 No.771767

File: 01979c28aa7b7f5⋯.gif (279.19 KB, 420x234, 70:39, 01979c28aa7b7f58ec1bbe08b4….gif)

>>769616

>>771360

This is seriously impressive. You're incredibly dedicated, anon, I can tell. I wish I could take a look at your novel. Hope you can publish it, if you don't put it up anywhere. I haven't been able to write much of anything lately. Just a general lack of motivation and a lot of personal problems over the past few months. But I still have an ideas for two stories I wanted to write. I wish I could come up at least with a short story.


 No.774635

>>771360

>>769616

Wonderful job anon. I hope to read it someday.


 No.779394

File: ac08aa95905a0df⋯.jpg (45.39 KB, 618x697, 618:697, ac08aa95905a0dfd1d6e831ebd….jpg)

Everyone holding up okay? Or did everyone commit suicide?


 No.779403

>>779394

I'm right now on the process of paying money to artists and shit to get the visual novel together. It's gonna be expensive as fuck but I told myself that even if it's a failure at the end I prefer to spend money on this than in videogames and shit.

For now it's looking good but I want to hold it a bit longer until I do a formal announcement with website and all the shit.

I'm going all in so if it doesn't work I will probably feel like shit for years but well that's how I've been feeling the last 10 years anyways.


 No.779843

File: 7e699bd83c9b0d7⋯.jpg (19.62 KB, 403x275, 403:275, 1482990659619.jpg)

I'd like to make something this year. I wanna be able to produce instead of just consuming, I've thought a lot of things I'd like to do or try. I think about them every day, and yet, I never try to put anything into motion.

How do I start? How can I start?

How did you guys start? When and how did you start to "do" instead of just thinking about "doing"?


 No.779879

>>779843

Maybe you should take a course in whatever you are interested in. The financial investment will give you some motivation to go to class and do your homework, and the social environment will also give you the opportunity to receive some positive feedback, which could help build up some long-term motivation to pursue the activity.

Polite sage.


 No.779892

>>779843

Well it doesn't seem like you know what you want to do, so think about what craft you want to pursue. Find some quality examples of that medium, and feel out whether it might excite you to be able to create something like that. No doubt if you're here you already have some favorite artists, writers, or musicians. Then you can look at beginners' guides and tutorials and see if the climb to that level of skill is something you're interested in pursuing.


 No.779929

File: 385f839d89c24a9⋯.jpg (369.15 KB, 850x708, 425:354, 0b43f5dc31f946b84a130ffe95….jpg)

Thank you for bumping the thread. I've been too lax on writing since New Years.

>Sometimes I'd write pages upon pages at one in the morning. Sometimes I'd get the overwhelming urge to sit down and write, I'd spit out a few sentences or maybe a paragraph, then realize that it was all I had to say for the day. Sometimes I'd spend a week just mulling things over before sitting down and typing it all out in one day. Out of the 17 chapters in there, I'd say that about 3-4 were written in a single sitting.

I bet it'll be a wonderful story, anon. Can't wait to read it. This is how I've written as well, but trying to force it sometimes makes some good scenes.


 No.779931

>>779929

--> >>771360

oops

New Thread when this hits page 10?


 No.780018

File: d034a25441ab2d9⋯.png (477 KB, 600x600, 1:1, Raphael 1.png)

>>779843

I'm speaking from experience here (and take it with a grain of salt because I'm not the most productive person ever), but the secret is that you cannot force yourself to do it. Sure, it's important to get yourself to do something consistently, but forcing yourself usually implies trying to follow a grand goal with little to no regard for each individual step. I believe that's what people mean when they say you should take your time. I applied a similar principle when I quit smoking: instead of saying "this will be my last smoke EVER", I got up one day, and told myself "y'know, I don't feel like smoking today." Next day, same thing. Before I knew it, I kept telling myself "I don't feel like smoking this week", then a week turned into a month, two months. The point is, you need to let it come to you. It's like the story one day knocks on you and asks you to tell it to someone, but you can't simply force it out or you'll get something that's a bit like the soulless, cynical crap they sell these days. "Hey, anon, could you write my story a little?" "Hm, sure, I guess I could do it for a week or a few days, see what happens."

Take thing step by step. It's a long road till you complete something, be it a novel, a game, or even a short story. It takes time, a little bit of planning (if you're not the kind of creator who just wings it), and some reviewing. But if you set your mind to it and let yourself enjoy the process step by step, the story will come to you. It will knock at your door, and who knows? You may end up finding yourself writing nearly every day. Of course, this assumes writing is what you want to do, but I believe it's applicable for a lot of creative endeavors. More importantly, if you do begin, allow yourself to make mistakes. Don't fret over them. If you start something and you don't like it, you can move on.

Best of luck to you, anon.

>>779931

Creative threads like these should be common on /a/. A new one would be nice when it's due.


 No.780050

File: 92e2a12b8a1d098⋯.png (2.22 MB, 1400x1400, 1:1, 92e2a12b8a1d098b167a942cd6….png)

>>780018

Good advice. Thanks for sharing, anon

I think this is the best writing thread we've ever had. I hope next one is just as good.




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