/christianity/ - Christian Theology & Philosophy

literally who?

>>10431

Come on man this isnt /christian/. We dont want this kind of low quality bait here

>>10497

this. OP you need to work harder and maybe then you can master baiting

Indeed, very based:

>>10431

>Protestants:

>"You're going to Hell."

>>10507

>Muslims:

>"You're going to Heaven!"

>>10566

Ultimately, God determines what is good.

However, good means "that which eliminates suffering, physical and spiritual."

The commandments God gives us reduce our physical suffering, and following them is good.

Believing on the Lord Jesus reduces our spiritual suffering by granting us an eternal place in Heaven.

I think all philosophers would agree that "good" from the human perspective would mean a lack of suffering.

>>10453

Him knowing where you end up doesn't mean you didn't choose to be there in the first place. You have the choice to be righteous or be a faggot. It says multiple times that it grieves him to send people to hell, but they made the choice to reject truth (and by extension him) so ultimately it is perfectly just. You seem to think God's primary attribute is "Love" whereas the God of scripture is one that's more interested in Justice and Truth, to the point he describes himself as Logic incarnate.

>>10568

>You seem to think God's primary attribute is "Love"…

Except that it is. God IS love

And such legalistic autistic attitude is one of the reasons that caused the weakening of Western Christendom

>>10637

You're going to have two perspectives here, no matter what. Good from God's perspective, and good from the human perspective.

God simply made everything for his own pleasure. He saw nothingness as "not good," and creation, as "good."

We, as created beings, cannot necessarily define how the universe *should* be. Only the Creator can decide how things *should* be.

That being said, we have the Bible, which says God does not want us to suffer. And in the Bible, we have God's commandments, which, if followed, reduce suffering. Therefore, I can deduce that God's Good includes the reduction of suffering.

You sound as though you think relics are a good thing, and not pagan idolatry

>>10620

It has more to do with showing Catholics how far their "infallible church" has fallen. If their eyes can be opened then they can turn fully to Christ Jesus and stop vainly hoping that the works of wicked men can save them.

>>10207

rude bitch. well, i will give you, in particular, nothing in the way of supporting evidence, but the data is ironclad.

it’s this way: 50% of christian men are Incel In Christ.

idk if i should bump. maybe nobody else recognizes this is the central issue facing christianity today.

>>10448

not to mention refusing to support the ancient boundary stone (border walls).

All of the OT is equally absent of esotericism, in the spiritual sense of esotericism meaning the text requires some kind of private enlightenment to understand

>>10273

>And Enoch was well-pleasing to God, and was not found, because God translated him.

<Genesis 5:24 (LXX)

>>10289

this. Luther lived unlike John Hus who sought reform in his age

>>10443

>Brazil, Mexico, or Burkina Faso. Not really a world I want to live in.

seriously , if catholics like it so much they should move to mexico city

>>10234

>>10232

not quite perfect, should say “i kissed Jesus”

>>10360

nice skills anon good job with the font over the pic

>>10435

thank you anon

the other guy did a lot more 👍🏻

Christians going mad with power and abusing said power.

>Who could had seen it coming?

>>10370

>Christians

Catholics*

It is a badge of honor to be banned from that place.

They are not Christians, they are not Catholics, they are Roman Catholics, a satanic perversion of the Holy Catholic Church.

They are nothing but pure evil. Idolators and servants of satan. Pray for the Lord to forgive them and deliver them from their delusion. As it stands, everyone on that board is probably unsaved and depending on their own works and dead traditions to save them.

>M-maybe if I pray with my magic beads enough times…

>>10371

>Catholics

Romanists*

>>3676

Just because I don't hold her to the same status as you doesn't mean I hate her, I have no reason to, and most if not all prots don't "hate" her.

>>3674

For some reason, Catholics act like Mary was the only person ever blessed in history.

Friendly reminder that Marian apparitions are demonic:

http://orthodoxinfo.com/inquirers/marian_apparitions.aspx

When will Catholics repent from such idolatry?

Well, when they also worship papal authority (which is a satanic perversion of the true Catholic Church) I'm not really surprised, just disappointed.

Pray for them, that the Lord would deliver them from their strong delusion. Catholics are pure evil, totally incapable of turning from lies by their own power.

>>10373

Thanks for the link anon, some very interesting stuff in there. Its very curious that 'Mary' in these apparitions, often says things which limit the power of God or paint Jesus as unmerciful. Its also very funny that 'prophetic' apparitions such as the ones at Fatima weren't put to paper until the 'prophecies' had already been fulfilled or were presently underway. Still, Catholics like to point to this as evidence of the truth value of Marian apparitions. They also like screaming: 'but its not dogma!'. The fact of the matter is millions of Caths still believe in this shit and eat up the words of nutcases like Alphonsus Liguari, being led astray from the gospel in the process.

>>10398

>When will Catholics repent from such idolatry?

When they leave the Roman church. You cant be a Romanist without believing in the Marian dogmas, or the dogma of papal infallibility for instance.

>>9479

it was added

>>9479

>The gift of tongues is often associated with Spirit baptism, but there are other signs too and not everyone get tongues but many do.

None do. You just jibber incomprehensibly like idiots because you have no understanding of what it is you are supposed to be faking.

>>10233

you should do the same with God and the Holy Spirit

>>10399

god -> God would confuse discussions related to false gods

>>10182

>>10171

Lying is a sin. You both know what I said.

>>9961

If you can’t have a proper discussion with someone you disagree with then you’re a child

Just remind Papists that their system suffers from strong, cognitive dissonance:

2 Maccabbees don't support purgatory. The reason why there was a sacrifice for the jews is because they died as idolaters (you cannot be redemed of that if you're already dead according catholic theology). Judeus believed he action will save the people in the day of resurrection implies that sacrifices are one time deal and the notion of soul sleep (opposed to being judged immediately after death). All of which mama Roma rejects. Oh, let's not get started how it's non-inspired using references like pope Gregory the great's commentaries.

Or how there isn't a traceable apostolic translation of the bible. Practically every church father up until and even passed Clement of Alexandria read Matthew 16:18's rock is either Christ or Peter's confession, Clement just gives up by stating that the rock is Christ and Peter, but virtually no other early bishop held that perspective even Augustine (he said it was Jesus Christ).

The earliest witness for such a interpretation of the scripture is the commentaries of Papias (apostle John's successor) yet no early church theologian had a deep compliance for them-couple even mocked them!

The earliest claimed tradition no body;no one in the catholic church, no one in the EO church, even people on the fridges of heresy believed this is true. The tradition from Irenaeus of lyons about apparently John told to the entire churches on the eastern Mediterranean that Jesus was fifty years old. Of course, papists try to cope out by appealing to 2 Thessalonians but if anyone says that the traditions is different like we see in 1 Corinthians 11&15, Paul's argument falls apart and the "super apostles" could easily say their traditions is actually the oral tradition of the authentic apostles.

More importantly IMO is the fact that after Origen formulated the Alexandrian interpretation method, it was accepted in the churches across the roman empire. What that tell us is that not only did these congregation have these "apostolic" interpretations they also needed a methodology to understand what the apostles wrote.

>>10300

But it's nothing but the truth to equate the words Protestant and Christian

>>10300

The truth is not a sin.

Presbyterian babey!!!!!!!!!

>>10252

Catholicism, aka the church that Jesus founded. No other churches can make this claim.

>>10298

Not only can I make that claim, I contend that I am part of the Catholic church that Jesus founded while Rome is not.

Did Peter not say that "the end result of your faith, the salvation of your souls." or didn't Paul wrote " work out your salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose."? Both Catholics and EOs deny this and proclaim that it's through you, not God the Holy Spirit, that total sanctification can be manifested (while using the sacraments as crutches, of course).

>>10188

then what did luther do?

>>10209

Gave cogent exigetical arguments without coercion

>>10178

>The first two bullet points are lies

OP most be from the group Luther wrote a book about their lies.

When he was saying what the Bible aaid he was right, but even Jesus was tactful.

>>10210

Pretty sure he commanded the baptists of his age to be killed.

>>9942

Catholics are modernists. Every one of their traditions came long after the early (Ante-Nicene) Church and the Apostles.

>>10189

You are making the classic Papist mistake of anthropomorphizing God. God is beyond comprehension and prayer isn't like a telephone; to suggest it is (or to suggest your communicate with have any impact on God) diminishes God as it implies fallibility and ignorance . You pray to God because God in his apparent revealed preferences (via scripture) stated you should pray (or more accurate, you should recite some words generally pro forma using some sort of template as a small sacrifice of your time; that is all we know). Outside that you pray for your own comfort; a comfort in that you are obedient to God and as such God will come through for you in the end.

>That they're just in it for the good community and morals?

Not even that. Many of them are in it because it just so happens to currently benefit them (modern, hip churches make them look cool and give them opportunities to hang out with other young people, sometimes they can post "radical" Church-y posts on social media for approval, etc.)

And then later they come out as gay or announce that they leave the faith entirely, because they finally decided that the faith no longer benefits them or their image as "cool" or "profound." And that's all it was ever about since day one. Their own image.

>God answers prays yes, no or wait

>How is that different from if you were praying and there was no God. If God didn't exit, you would still get what you prayed for sometimes, not get it other time, and have to wait other times. This belief is no different from the way the world would be if God doesn't exist.

That's a little different though, because you may ask me for things, and I may say either yes, no, or wait. That doesn't mean you don't believe I exist.

>when we moved into Canaan

WE WUZ ISRAELITES LMAO

>>10241

Yeah yeah, we've heard your desperate lies a million times rabbi.

>>10241

>WE WUZ ISRAELITES LMAO

Yes the Black Hebrew Israelites