No.46014
Can anyone tell me the term used to describe psyops which imply the existence of mass-movements that don't exist?
For example, when you see major media outlets talking about "people everywhere are doing X, sparking outrage from Y" even though you've never heard of it before.
Some conspiracy theories can serve as an example of this kind of psyop, designed around an intentionally flawed basis in order to lump those retards in with every other "conspiracy theorist" to discredit them.
It's similar to "pigeonhole" and "gaslighting". I can't remember the term, but it's incredibly important that we recognize the danger it poses.
Also general psyops discussion thread.
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No.46015
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No.46021
What's the most obvious psyop in /x/'s opinion?
To me it's the obvious playing of both sides by both apparent sides. The CIA selling weapons to commies to fight bad commies, selling weapons to islamists to fight good commies, selling weapons to commies to fight islamists. Selling to one side until one side is on the brink of victory, only to turn around and support the losing side until they are now on the brink of victory, and so on and so on to keep the wheels of distraction political and media distraction spinning. During the Iran-Iraq war the soviets and americans sold to both sides in turn, to prevent a proper resolution and instead keep up an eternal stalemate. Selling drugs to people and also selling drug-sniffing dogs to the drug police. Like in 1984 how Oceania is always so so close to beating the enemy only to turn on their ally once the former enemy might actually be destroyed.
The examples in history for this are endless. Pope and France vs emperor, pope and emperor vs France, pope and emperor and France vs Venice and the ottomans, pope and emperor and Venice vs the ottomans and France. Repeat ad infinitum and you always have grounds for martial law, censorship, heavy taxation, restricting of rights etc.
But that's obvious beginners Alex Jones type stuff.
Enlighten me /x/ on your favourite psyop.
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No.46027
>>46021
Some terrorist attacks were obviously carried out by secret agents with the intent of getting people to want more 'security' (more powers to the government and laws that restrict their freedom).
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No.46087
"Climate change" is one of the most dangerous i think, flat earther theory is one of the most obvious ones aimed at discrediting "climate change deniers"
The self perpetuating MIC is an excellent soutce of funds to make the operations possible.
"Favourite psyop" is kindof a weird request since most are directed at us. So mine would probably be vietnam operation ELDEST SON where green berets or whoever would slip into enemy ammo caches replace a few rounds of genuine enemy ammunition of specially prepared shells or cartridges heavily doped with high explosive (i want to say rdx but not sure) resulting in the explosive disassembly of enemy weapons upon firing. The idea being for sporadically during engagements VC soldiers' weapons would blow up mid magazine sending the bolt of the rifle into the head of the shooter and generally making a mess. This would make all who witnessed this, or heard about it through the grapevine think twice before firing their weapons.
Eastern forces would do simialr things to us. Sappers would sneak in to bases and place charges on key equipment or structures, on timers. His confederates would lob mortars into the base after, and the sapper would blow the charges. To the men in the base it would seem like lucky mortar hits and not search for a bomber hiding inside the wire.
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No.46114
>>46087
I recently watched "beyond the curve" on netflix. It's a documentary about flat-earthers where they interview both scientists and flatearthers. I figured beforehand that it'd be propaganda for the establishment, but there's a scene that got me hard. They talk to some guy who is called the king of flat-earth and how the dude started out by being really into conspiracies and how flat-earth was the sort of "cherry on top" for him. There is an animation where they show a bookshelf with generic conspiracy theory titles on books and they literally put "Operation Northwoods" right next to "ELVIS LIVES!" followed by "Priory of Sion". Pic related.
The connection they're trying to make if intentional, fuck off fbi is clear to me. Flat-earthers=MIC-truthers=reversed-music-truthers=anti-semites=climate-change deniers. But it keeps going. Pic2 related. The last three books before flat-earth: Rothschild=>Denver Airport=>Lizard People=>Flat-Earth. Which is just too good because to my mind you can't exactly believe both flat-earth and alien lizard people from alpha draconis or something.
I think flat-earth isn't just to ridicule climate-changers but literally all truthers of any kind. The worst part is that I wanna bet that there are people out there who were in danger of falling into one of these truther-folds only for them to watch "beyond the curve" and be subconsciously primed to consider all conspiracy theories of any kind to be equivalent to flat-earth. I think the vaccine meme that spread really hard recently is part of that aswell. I don't know how often I saw some shitty meme about how anti-vax kids only live to age 3. I don't have an opinion on the topic, it just seems obvious to me that this anti-anti-vax meme isn't organic or "grassroots" just from the fact of how normie and boringly overdone it is, and yet even my edgiest friends repeated it over and over again as if it was in any way original
>>46027
There's a difference though between "planned and staged by some agency" and "allowed to go through and tangentially supported by some agency". Still. I agree. They use all means possible to keep up their powers and in the fog of war it's hard to see.
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No.46121
The pics didn't make it, sry for being retard.
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No.46123
>>46121
Denver International Airport uses their own rumors against them as part of their advertising. It gets me thinking that the whole thing was a marketing scheme to begin with as a tourist trap.
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No.46332
>>46087
Here's another possible angle to consider in regards to the flat Earth movement. Consider the flat Earth theory and how it has been popularized in the era of big data analytics. Let's accept for the sake of argument that the flat Earth theory is demonstrably false. Let's also accept for the sake of argument that there are organizations in this world with an interest in controlling various narratives to garner public support for their objectives. Would it not then be reasonable to surmise that spreading the flat Earth theory through social media would allow for some analytic data to be generated regarding what percentage of any given demographic would be willing to accept something that is demonstrably true as false? Would that data not then be useful to everyone from the most marginal snake oil salesman to the largest governmental or non-governmental organizations? If any group had demographic data, say the identities of members of a flat Earth Facebook group or Youtube channel, then those individuals could be targeted with all manner of propaganda as the astroturfed flat Earth movement would have determined in advance who had the highest level of gullibility. It can be interesting to follow the flat Earth movement with this in mind. If one ignores the claims of the flat Earth movement, yet keeps a keen eye on whatever other ideas piggyback upon it, curious narratives emerge.
There are flat Earth proponents who mix in racial politics, flat Earth proponents who mix in religious ideology, flat Earth proponents who mix in non-racial secular political ideology, and some flat Earth proponents who don't care about race, religion, or politics but make a strong point that you should at least buy their vitamin tinctures or support their new musical project on Patreon. Don't forget to like and subscribe.
>>46114
Also, as this anon pointed out in regard to the Netflix documentary, the anti-flat Earth movement can then be weaponized as well. De-bunkers can then link other narratives, in bad faith, and use the flat Earth movement as a means to discredit other demonstrable truths through a guilt by association technique.
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No.46368
>>46114
Thank the fucking lord I'm not alone in believing the anti-vax meme spread suspiciously fast. Coincidentally I also got a video called "Kid sneaks out to get a vaccination to rebel against parents" in my Youtube recommended page. Memes are largely carried out and originated by young teenagers, and at best, young adults. There's no reason for an age group like that to be so passionately vengeful against anti-vaxers. They're trying to make vaccinations seem rebellious so that parents trying to be "hip and cool" will get their kids ultra-vaccinated so they don't seem out of the times.
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No.46371
>>46332
You are saying flat earth theory is introduced into culture like a radiocontrast or barium dye. That collects into the paets of culture most prone to believe that type of thing, revealing more information about them. Like barium dye collects in a tumor and makes in more easily identifiable and ultimately removable… interesting
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No.46385
>>46368
Suspicious as fuck. I'm no expert but it seems like memes with a political message get spread further and persist harder than any other meme. Like the thanos meme where he snaps people away to my mind stayed for so long because there really are a lot of people that would want to do that. Whereas the thanos car meme was instantly the uncaring cosmic abomination anyone would recognize it for. Thanos armageddon snap lives; thanos car dead at birth. and yes, I found thanos car funnier than thanos snap because atleast people got creative with thanos car
>There's no reason for an age group like that to be so passionately vengeful against anti-vaxers.
On point. Like it was funny at first, for a few days, mb weeks, but then it was over and over just "hAhAAAaahh anti-vaxers die at a young age, Karen likes essential oils hahAh!". No way did it persist that long only because of the humour. No fucking way.
>ultra-vaccinated
I agree. Make one side seem absolutely retarded to the point where, to an undecided person, the other side seems not even in need of questioning because "99% of science, and YOU aren't stupid enough to go against SCIENCE are you?", so that they feel secure in their choice and never have to question their reality-tunnel.
>>46371
This. >>46332 Anons on fucking point.
Thank fuck there are some with eyes and minds out there. As gay as it sounds, WE are the resistance.
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No.46386
>>46371
Yes, exactly. The writer Walter Bosley explained how intelligence agencies have taken a similar, albiet structuraly different, approach to the UFO meme. He used the example of a colored dye being put into a body of water so that you could observe what tributaries are connected to it. I have no idea how reliable a narrator Bosley is, as he's an ex-spook who has a writing career to promote, so maybe take this claim with a grain of salt. Bosley proposes that intelligence agencies will plant sensationally over the top UFO stories as covers for ongoing millitary operations. The reason being, they will monitor internet chatter about the sensational meme. If normies on message boards discuss the rumor, no big deal. If suddenly, a well connected foriegn national appears on the scene accepting the tall tale as truth and begins sending emails to hobbyist researchers and asking questions, then a potential spy has been flushed out. I believe he once cited the fantastic tales of the Dulce base and battles with underground grey aliens as such an example. One could even imagine the Area 51 rumors to be such an op. If a few locals living near to the facility out in the desert begin to spout off about strange lights in the sky and alien spacecraft, the potential leaks are quietly monitored. But if a foriegn "UFO researcher" suddenly shows up and starts posing questions to the locals and wants directions to the best place to view said "UFOs", then a potential spy has been flushed out and counter espianoge will kick into high gear. Keep in mind, none of this would have any bearing upon the validity of the claim that off world intelligence have visited Earth. It's just bait. Memetic warfare is a hell of a drug.
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No.46387
>>46385
Not that it matters much but I should add that I'm neither anti-vax nor anti-science. I'm a postmodern "power-struggles" guy and there are few things that are more powerful than truth and money.
Some part of me wishes to never have gotten into propaganda and reality-perception stuff, but I think if I hadn't I would be even more mindless than I am now. 2016, the year of the ubiquitous triumph of the meme.
Bless you anons for seeing and laying out your views.
>>46386
>Memetic warfare is a hell of a drug
This x10000
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No.46388
>>46385
Oh yes, disregard me writing >WE are the resistance
Lame propaganda technique. Anonymität ist die Maske der Täter.
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No.46668
>>46388 (Heil Hitler)
Hört, hört!
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No.46679
>>46668
Triple 6. 'suh dude.
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No.46683
its more like
>gamergate is bad sparking outrage from people who are not evil
media sometimes create groups out of loosely agreeing people like the recent pic related where white men with personal opinions become organized russian trolls and incels, as if there is some form of planned action being taken instead of normal expression of opinion.
Some can even prepare any sort of dissenting opinion to be grouped together with some easy to hit strawman.
People that disbelieve moonlanding are automatically grouped with flat earthers.
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