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>>43136 (OP)

Huh, that's a nice website. Well designed and the content is extremely informative. A welcome change for the UFO community. About Greer, to be honest I haven't read any of his books. I've watched a couple of videos of his lectures and the impression I got was that he tried too hard to make himself sound like the best authority in the world about aliens; he talked about how he spoke to the CIA director and other high ranking officers because they were all desperate to know from him the truth about UFOs.

In other words, I think he's a pompous liar. I've also heard that he organises meditation sessions in the woods, where you have to pay to participate, and he'll teach you the secret method to summon UFOs with the power of your mind. Sorry, don't trust him.

>>43137

thx, it is the purpose of the website to present info in a condensed but useful manner

the meeting with the CIA director has been confirmed by Woolsey himself (it was a bit of a controversy) and others by Ed Mitchell.

>>43137

I don't trust the guy. I think Greer is suspicious, more suspicious than Wilcock.

>>43138

Sorry for being maybe too sceptical but I just can't understand why the CIA director would need to ask to meet a UFO researcher. Has Woolsey actually confirmed Greer's story? If it's true, this opens new possibilities. One is that, as you said, officials have no idea what's going on. Another is that the government is lending Greer some credibility for the purpose of using him to mislead the public. (Yeah, call me paranoid, but you have to be a bit paranoid when talking about this stuff.)

>>43140

Woolsey has confirmed the meeting but has downplayed it, which was later refuted by Greer using the correspondence that took place prior to the meeting

skepticism is always good, especially when it comes to these kind of topics

>>43141

Okay, I've read Greer's response to Woolsey's letter (https://siriusdisclosure.com/dr-greers-response-to-former-cia-director-woolseys-denial-of-meeting/), and in my humble opinion it doesn't look good for Greer. If the meeting happened exactly as he said, why would Woolsey deny it? Why didn't Greer ask for Woolsey's consent before making the story public? If not for the sake of politeness, at least to make sure that Woolsey is okay with it and there's no possible controversy later.

>>43142

there are many possible reasons. Maybe it was due to no consent as you said. Maybe Woolsey was coerced or felt embarrassed or who knows…

But the main thing is - the meeting did happen.

>>43139

They are all guilty until proven innocent

>>43136 (OP)

Greer is a fraud. In one of his videos (I think it's London) he claims that the elite wanted to give him 2 billion dollars to keeps his mouth shut. In another video with a small group he said it was 1 billion. I guess it's better to sell $200 UFO meditation seminars, lol. Two of his partners also left his zero point energy project after he misused donated funds for real estate and steroids.

Greer is a fraud.

>>43148

where can i see/read/hear about misuse of funds for real estate and steroids?

>>43150

He's probably referring to this.

https://web.archive.org/web/20130805133039/http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2013/06/sirius-documentary-reported-project-financial-improprieties-and-message-falsehoods-by-dr-steven-greer-undercut-ufoet-and.html

And this is part 2.

https://web.archive.org/web/20130805125256/https://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2013/06/exopoliticscom-receives-response-from-dr-jan-bravo-formerly-of-the-disclosure-project.html

>>43148

>>43151

It would seem Webre made these allegations. Later this came out:

On 2013-06-22, at 6:39, Jan Bravo <magicdoctor@comcast.net> wrote:

Mr. Webre,

I have never spoken to you, and I have not communicated to you through 2 independent intermediaries, as stated below.

I am respectfully asking you to stop using my name and making up lies about me.

If you continue to do so either in print or verbally on radio, etc., I will respond with the truth on the Internet - that statements like the one below about me are lies - because they are.

I gave you no information and authorized no information to go to you. Todd said you promised not to release stuff he told you without authorization, but you did.

Again, I ask that you just stop using my name and making up lines like the one below. If I have to tell the truth about your lack of integrity, I will.

It has been suggested that you released the info because you were not invited to Stephen Bassett's Disclosure. I will not put that in print at this time.

Again, I have never communicated nor have I meant to have anything I said communicated to you. Stop stretching your story. Leave me out of it, or my involvement will be to tell the truth.

Dr. Jan Bravo

Kimberley Hi! Thank you. In March 2013 whistleblower intermediaries from insiders formerly affiliated with Dr. Greer approached Exopolitics.com with information and the "Dead Man's Trigger". We released the information and document after the premiere of the film Sirius and after specific conditions had been met. All the witness statements we have are in the article (BELOW). Dr. Jan Bravo communicated to us through 2 independent intermediaries as reported. The Sirius film crew reported through intermediaries as in the article. Dr. Ted Loder never replied to our inquiry during the investigation. On June 5, 2013 an intermediary who had contacted Drs Loder and Greer sent us an update stating that Dr. Ted Loder could not confirm the allegations, and stating that Dr. Greer considered the allegations "nonsense". I hope this update helps.

From: ALFRED WEBRE <exopolitics.future@gmail.com>

Date: Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 8:31 AM

Subject: Re: Response

To: Jan Bravo <magicdoctor@comcast.net>

Cc: Carol Rosin Phones <spacetreaty@gmail.com>

Dear Jan Hi I am sorry you are distressed.

You communicated to me both through my long time colleague Dr Carol Rosin and through Todd and Nora Hathaway. Dr. Rosin and I communicated via Skype and she stated to me she was relaying messages from you. Dr. Carol Rosin like myself is a Disclosure Project witness.

As you know, I have worked with Steve Greer for 13 years since August 2000. His and my name appeared jointly on the Disclosure Project press conference press releases on May 9,2001.

I am also an Exopolitical journalist of 40 years standing since 1973.

Steve's reported betrayal and misuse of Disclosure Project funds is a matter of grave public interest, as well as a betrayal of the public trust of the Disclosure Project witnesses like myself.

After consulting with my attorney who was in full awareness of the above facts, I acted under my rights as a journalist under the First Amendment.

I urge you to reframe your perspective and acknowledge that the release of your statements is both journalistically ethical and more important in the public interest.

With all best wishes,

Alfred Lambremont Webre

Vancouver, BC

Tel: 604-733-8134