/x/ - Paranormal

Wow, a thread on /x/ that is intelligent and not shilling some cottage industry sensationalist conspiracy or flogging a dead horse.

Hat's off to you OP.

For the record, I think those things are just bugs.

>>40293

>Airrods

>Not a dead horse.

Very interesting idea. It doesn't sound terribly far-fetched, either. I'd say that the lack of "invisible animals" that have come up through automatic sensors set up for other sensory mediums generally discredits this idea though. Who knows, we haven't catalogued even half of the worlds' species, after all.

Adding to your ideas on what constitutes as a "life form", have you ever considered that stars may be a form of extra-terrestrial life? Just being "living creatures" doesn't suddenly make them awfully interesting in itself, but it's just something people tend to overlook when they think about aliens. When they think about "aliens", they think about alien carbon-based life forms.

Bigfoot are said by some to be able to make themselves invisible, more psychic than mechanically, but others think they are teleporting back to some other dimension.

We do know about the chameleon, mimic octopus, leaf and stick insects, and even some fish can illuminate their undersides to remove their silhouette from below. Some animals are basically invisible as it is, such as cave fish. Nature already shows so many examples of incredible abilities. Sharks have electro-sensors, electric eels can shock, the pistol shrimp has a bubble gun. I wish I could illuminate, would be convenient at night to turn myself into a flashlight, but invisibility would be great too.

>>40292

The rods are mostly bugs, bats and birds which were captured at low shutter speeds which creates effects of these blurry afterimages in trails,

here's a site/vid which explains it;

https://science.howstuffworks.com/why-spinning-blades-look-weird-tv.htm

That said, there might well be some creatures which are kinda outside our range of perception.

>>40292

the creatures you're talking about such as the forests demons in malaysia are in another dimension. They're not actually in this physical world at all, in the way that we are, but allow an indio to explain to you, as this is not something a modern western person is usually familiar with at all.

There are creatures, like the forest spirits you mention, that have kind of "one foot in this world and one foot in the other world", that are described by many indigenous peoples as far apart as the americas and australia as being something between a spirit and an animal.

A well known example would be sasquatch, which is quite a typical tree/forest guardian.

There are certain places in forests, if you are far enough away from civilisation, which are what the europeans would call enchanted, what an indio or indian might call a power zone, or a specific type of powerzone. If you step into one of these places, its possible that you may go "between" worlds, because these places not only exist in the physical, they also exist in the spiritual world, these are the territories of nature spirits, or parts of their territory, where "the veil is thin" so to say.

>>40973

Now when you step into one of these places it could be that you've crossed into a zone which is between this world and the other world, but you can't tell, everything looks the same. Physically speaking your body is still in this world. But your mind is bewitched, your mind is actually between worlds but it can't perceive the shift. Your senses appear to you to be perceiving just the same clearing, grove or spring that exists in this world, your senses however are actually perceiving a liminal zone between this world and the next, meaning, in addition to perceiving the contents of this world, they can perceive otherworldly contents and phenomena. Because this zone is between worlds, it means that these creatures can cross into it and perceive it as well. And if you are both in this liminal zone, you can perceive one and other. Because you are between worlds and you are a denizen of this world, it will appear to you like an animal, an extraordinary animal such as a sasquatch. And because you have not perceived the shift your mind has undergone and everything except for this creature looks just like it is in this world, you think you are seeing an undiscovered animal just in some section of the forest.

See, every part and area of nature is actually manifested in the other world, however they are manifest in a different form or way then how they are manifest in our world. Its not that only these enchanted places exist in the other world, but the rest of nature doesn't. Rather, these are places where the boundary between this world and the other is thin, and there is much more symmetry between this world and the other world. And its not that you will always be bewitched if you walk into this area, but it can happen, particularly if the forest spirits feel you are disturbing their territory, and/or endangering the nature and/or animals in their territory. If you are in an enchanted place in your world, and they are in the same place except in their world, it is likely you will both shift into the intermediate zone. And now it is like you are both seeing a replica of this place.

Now here is the tricky, and frightening part. They are manifesting a shape, a form, not just an apparition, a form capable of exerting force, a form comprised of force feilds if you will. And that is what you are seeing, that is what appears to be a physical creature with a flesh and blood body. And since this energy form is manifesting between their world and ours, they can actually physically effect our world. Yes they can snap tree branches off and throw them, throw rocks, snap tree trunks in half and uproot them, even throw small trees into canopy/tree line of taller tree's branches so they get stuck up there and hang there. It is a form of poltergeist activity, but what you are seeing, the image of the creature's body itself, is just an apparition seen with/through/in your mind only, as a kind of extrasensory perception. Yes all that interaction with the environment which you are seeing is really taking place, but if you had a camera capturing all of this, the camera would just be capturing what appears to be an invisible force doing all of these things, almost like a very powerful, abnormal wind. And they can and do effect and use wind to do these things, as they are elemental spirits. They can and do also directly act on trees from the inside, this is what tree knocks are (if they are not coming from a human or worldly animal or some other worldly phenomenon). They can interact with trees, vegetation, soil, rocks and air in our world, because they are the guardian spirits of the forest and all its elements, but particularly trees and rocks.

>>40974

If you have crossed into the liminal zone in an enchanted place, You are manifesting a form between the worlds as well, you just don't realise it. Its a complete replica of your body, mirroring every action you're taking with your body. But you don't have the powers the spirit has, you can't kill it, but it can certainly kill you, seeing as how it can break trees in our world and toss branches and rocks at you. But it is not liable to do so. You can in fact, harm the creature, if you have a gun and you point it at a sasquatch, its not going to like that and its going to try and evade you, try not to be shot. Because its spirit body despite being incredibly strong, tough and powerful, can be harmed by physical objects while it is in this liminal zone, because everything physical thats in the enchanted place is in the liminal zone too when the boundary is thin like this. Including whatever has passed into the enchanted place and not just its natural features. Because the spirit body of the creature is continuous with the creature/spirit itself, he will be harmed by an effective attack like a gunshot. But not killed, at least I have never heard of such a case. I have never heard of someone bring down a sasquatch with bullets. To bring such a spirit form to the ground doesn't make much sense to me. But even if it could be done, it doesn't matter because the energy form is just going to vanish anyway, from our perception and reach, back into the spirit's realm. And in an important sense it was never in our world, in the way that our bodies are, it was only close to our world and interacting with it.

>>40976

This topic is particularly interesting and bemusing to me because you see, I, myself, feel as if I have been brought up in a kind of liminal zone. I have been brought up both in my culture and in the western culture, and I feel that I have been brought up in both worlds equally. So I know how this all looks and sounds from a modern, western perspective. I see the ways in which the western mind misunderstands these topics and I see how a modern western person just has no experience with such things at all. And as an indian, I see all these things from the traditional indian perspective too. I see the contrast between this and the way these kinds of beliefs are seen and interpreted by westerners.

I've used the example of a sasquatch, but that is really one example of an nature spirit or elemental, or earth spirit, and even just one example of a forest spirit. A sasquatch is a wild man and a guardian spirit and these spirits exist all over the world, not just in north america. And they are different, in different parts of the world. Sasqautch in fact have their own tribes or nations and just like people, from tribe to tribe and nation to nation, and continent to continent, wild men differ by temperament among other things. But they are all a manifestation or emanation of the wild, and they are somewhere between a man and an ape in appearance, at the least. They are guardians so it is only natural they are feirce, frighetning, powerful, raffable.

>>40980

I see white men and women on television chasing after "big foot", making calls and tree knocks, and I just see them chasing their tails and being taken for a ride. They even claim to have seen a sasquatch up close before, but its not enough for them. There is no respect, and there is no understanding that sasquatch is only going to be seen by you if he wants to be, by and large. Once you're out chasing him and making a lot of noise, you've already blown it. It is possible sometimes for a sighting to just happen because the conditions are right, the boundary between the worlds is thin enough, and they can't help but become visible to you, but once they know you're out there looking for them and beleive me, they know, they are going to stay well away from you. They will always be one step ahead of you, they will always remain just beyond your reach. They don't even need to hear you, see you or smell you to know you're around. If they don't want to be seen they will always run circles around you, but they might tease you and play games with you, it amuses them and they are curious about you too, and sometimes they do want to interact at a distance. But they will only give you back what you are giving them. They're not going to come and be seen, because from their perpsective, you're not coming to them to be seen. There's a way of doing so, and they know about it, but you don't. But it doesn't matter to them. You don't know the correct protocol and you do not have proper respect. Like many spirits they respond to this with trickery. They don't know you, your people or your ancestors. Its a good thing that they are good natured compared to some other spirits who will try to do you some level of harm or mischief if you approach them and mess with them in this way.

White men are never leaving sasquach offerings, and that is a first step in establishing a relationship with them. The westerners who try to approach sasquatch approach him in the same way they approach nature.

>>40984

Which is a terrible way to approach a guardian spirit of nature. I have seen footage like the pattenson and gimlin footage and I'm not convinced. Why should a sasquatch be captured by a camera? A sighting of one is an apparition, an extrasensory perception. At most I might expect to see them show on camera as an orb or a shadowy figure, or mist. I have seen an image I find much more convincing then any ape man picture or footage and that was a photograph of a giant wild man who's form clearly appeared behind a group of men, made up of the leaves and foilage behind them and seated on a log or so. To capture their calls with a audio device is not so far fetched to me since they are able to have control over air.

We'll never find remains that would be recognised as a sasquatch, they do leave physical remains when they pass away however. Understand though that the closest they have to a physical body in our world while they are alive are trees and rocks. They are guardian spirits of the trees and forests because trees are their homes, they need them to live. It is not like they are spirits of the trees themselves but rather, they live in them and guard them. So what does a sasquatch's physical remains look like? Just like the remains of trees and rocks, a pile of branches and rocks as a pile of bones, often swarming with insects as they are attracted to the energy remains just as they are attracted to the fleshy remains of animals. Nothing of much interest to a scientist there. Only some indians will recognise it. It is not necessarily the remains of a dead tree, but any manifestation of death in the tree's life cycle such as cast off branches.

>>41093

tldr; any video proofs?