/x/ - Paranormal

God just automatically takes you. There's no tunnel of light, or any other spooky shenanagins. You're instantly safe and God cleanses you of all your bad stuff and you become totally good and pure and better than ever before and then you go to heaven and everything is good and perfect and wonderful forever and you can't get bored or sick of it because it always keeps getting better.

also heaven is like a hotel full of hallways full of countless doors and everyone has a room with their own type of heaven in it and people can visit each other and see what other peoples heavens are like.

If you have any other questions let me know I'll try my best.

>>38224

That sounds very nice. But how do you know this?

>>38227

A question that really should be asked way more often, especially on this board.

Some people say you can find out through a journey that leads to enlightenment. Some people say such a journey leads to awareness of how to travel the astral plane and that many are informed about life and death from such an experience. Just as there's no sense in giving such stories too much credit unless you intend to go on that journey yourself, there's no point in asking unless you're looking for claims to test yourself.

1st: Goes to Jesus Christ; You meet your maker and you are judged.

You are either sent to the peace of Heaven or the pain of hell

2nd: Christ returns to Earth and you are resurrected. Depending on 1. you either enjoy Paradise or suffer hell with your rejoined body.

3: going to hell sucks

>What happens to our consciousness when we die?

Your consciousness ceases to exist because you're no longer in physical form, all of what you learned while you were conscious will be turned into intuition for future lives. The energy is what continues to live on.

>>38224

That sounds wonderful, but it also sounds like bullshit. Didn't the first creators (which are the true beings that were misconceived as god) destroyed in 2012? Did you not feel the change in universal energy?

>>38238

>Goes to Jesus Christ

Jesus Christ had his spirit wiped after he became arrogant in future lives.

>the pain of hell

Our physical existence is the pain of hell, you don't realise because it's all that you know. Consider this hypothetical: if you were to be born in hell, would you realise it was hell if nobody told you? Or would you believe it's normal life, especially considering that's what everybody else is saying?

Is this what /christian/ means when they say: "We are more powerful and influential on this board than you think."?

>>38250

>Jesus Christ had his spirit wiped after he became arrogant in future lives.

wut

>Our physical existence is the pain of hell

not yet, not just yet anon.

>Consider this hypothetical: if you were to be born in hell, would you realise it was hell if nobody told you?

The same people that told you hell exists say you will explicitly be told if you are thrown to hell. The true religion has never messed around with this; Christ will judge you to your face.

> Or would you believe it's normal life, especially considering that's what everybody else is saying?

It's supposed to be an unending fire with no end, I think I'd know.

>>38251

>wut

When given beyond-normal abilities like that, it's to be expected that you're going to have the ability to find your past lives with extreme ease sooner or later. When you find out you were literally Jesus Christ, the man with advanced DNA to the point where you could heal people without any form of medicine, you're destined to become a cunt; it was detrimental to the future of our universe.

>not yet, not just yet anon.

On this planet, we're just at a tolerable stage. You haven't seen the state of some other planets in our universe, ours is the filthiest though (in terms of kikery).

>The true religion

Can you explain what makes it so true?

>It's supposed to be an unending fire with no end, I think I'd know.

Care to explain why you'd know that, are you from there?

>>38256

>When you find out you were literally Jesus Christ, the man with advanced DNA to the point where you could heal people without any form of medicine, you're destined to become a cunt; it was detrimental to the future of our universe.

Who lied to you? We only have one life.

>You haven't seen the state of some other planets in our universe, ours is the filthiest though (in terms of kikery).

There is no other "planet" for us, it will fall away and be resurrected.

>Can you explain what makes it so true?

Jesus Christ. Ask any demons if He is the True Son of God, whom died and rose again for our sins.

>Care to explain why you'd know that, are you from there?

The concept of hell as we know it was given to us with explicit conditions; any larper fan-fiction or some eastern sophistry does not matter.

>>38258

Perhaps you should question your dogma, not for the reasons of blasphemy, but moreso for the reasons of further understanding your faith. If you are so certain of your beliefs, you should have no reason to fear what comes from questioning it since it's so blatantly obvious to be true.

>>38227

I had some really intense spiritual experiences tbh. It's up to you if you want to believe me or not. I don't want your money or anything.

>>38262

>I had some really intense spiritual experiences tbh.

I'm interested, can you describe them?

>>38250

>That sounds wonderful, but it also sounds like bullshit. Didn't the first creators (which are the true beings that were misconceived as god) destroyed in 2012? Did you not feel the change in universal energy?

based on what information?

>Goes to Jesus Christ

>Jesus Christ had his spirit wiped after he became arrogant in future lives.

I think jesus is bullshit but where are you getting this? I never heard anyone say this before.

>the pain of hell

>Our physical existence is the pain of hell, you don't realise because it's all that you know. Consider this hypothetical: if you were to be born in hell, would you realise it was hell if nobody told you? Or would you believe it's normal life, especially considering that's what everybody else is saying?

This I absolutely agree with.

>Is this what /christian/ means when they say: "We are more powerful and influential on this board than you think."?

I never heard them say that, but what do you mean by that? they try to spam jesus everywhere even on boards that really don't like them because they're severely ignorant and arrogant and don't accept any outside criticism or ideas and even refuse to address their own flaws.

>>38251

jesus and christianity is a tremendous scam of insane proportions. If you are willing to try and consider the information I will be willing to show you. I don't think you're going to say yes but the offer stands, and I'm willing to help free you from the diseased chains of limiting and false ideas that imprison your mind. I'm just saying you have no clue how deep of a trap you're in by believing in jesus.

>>38258

>Can you explain what makes it so true?

<Jesus Christ. Ask any demons if He is the True Son of God, whom died and rose again for our sins.

>Can you explain what makes it so true?

<"sure, just ask these demons over here, they'll tell you the truth!"

before I go and criticize this I'm going to stop myself and go "holy shit, you all have no idea how correct this statement is"

it's no wonder they say that because jesus IS satan. both are referenced as "the morning star"

>>38270

You poor man, you really think you are wise.

Demons have to compulsively admit Christ is God, the Holy One, they are ANGELS. Fallen, but still angels.

>>38259

>but moreso for the reasons of further understanding your faith.

Actually, I was outside the faith for a majority of my life, spending a significant amount of time on /fringe/ and other mysticism type bullshit for years.

I went Christian when I read the Scripture and it all clicked.

>you should have no reason to fear what comes from questioning it s

I have no fear because I already went through all the questions. St. Augustine covered everything else. EVERYTHING you fools believe was destroyed by him, why are you so ignorant?

OP here. Thank you for all of the replies so far. I was hoping to get more theories, perhaps even theories backed up by science, explaining what may happen to our consciousness when we die.

>>38268

>but where are you getting this?

The other side via qigong meditation; that's where I get most of it, as well as discussing it with other people practiced; you corroberate the ideas to clarify what information you're getting.

>I never heard anyone say this before.

That's because there's no dogma around it; I figure that people will understand these things on a larger scale in the future, but up until then it's not really important other than to keep people wasting their energy towards things that don't exist anymore.

>I never heard them say that, but what do you mean by that?

I've seen them post it on /pol/ when somebody uploaded a chart of: "Most influential boards on 8chan". /christian/ was only at Level 3 and a /christian/ poster commented: "We are more powerful and influential on this board than you think."

>they're severely ignorant and arrogant and don't accept any outside criticism or ideas and even refuse to address their own flaws

Yeah, it's their /christian/-hugbox that gives them their confidence. It reminds me of the dark-ages.

>>38279

>spending a significant amount of time on /fringe/ and other mysticism type bullshit for years

Then why don't you just stick to /christian/ and harbour your ideas with your fellow thinkers?

>perhaps even theories backed up by science, explaining what may happen to our consciousness when we die.

I'm looking forward to the day when we're finally allowed advanced technology so we can have more answers to all the questions there are to ask.

>>38250

>That sounds wonderful, but it also sounds like bullshit.

Because it is bullshit. And no, the anunnaki weren't destroyed in 2012, they're still here and rule everything.

>>38269

Jesus was probably real but he wasn't the son of God and he wasn't the wise loving humanitarian guy that Christians believe. He was the son of Mary and an angel, and all he cared about was his tribe and how to break free from Roman rule. Basically he was a violent revolutionary, that's why he was killed. You're right that Christianity is a huge scam, it makes me sick to think of how many people have based their lives on a lie.

>>38278

What Christians call demons are just gods that other tribes/societies believed in. Both so-called 'demons' and 'angels' are superior to Jesus because their DNA is 100% divine, while Jesus is half-human. So it makes no sense that they would obey him.

>>38281

Orthodox science says that consciousness is generated by the brain, so it can't survive death. Some scientists disagree though. There's this theory that the brain acts more like a radio receiver, and consciousness is just the signal that's coming from somewhere else. Do some research on near-death experiences and Rupert Sheldrake.

>>38288

>the anunnaki weren't destroyed in 2012

Annunaki aren't the first creators, they were never destroyed.

>they're still here and rule everything

They were kicked off the planet early this year by Drakh.

>>38278

all the proof that jesus is satan is right here. same exact make characters.

>>37848

>>>/fringe/120566

>>38300

same exact characters*

>>38226

Is it true what Terry Davis says, that you should always seek to be entertaining for God to observe? (ie don't be a boring person, you should do/say things that god has likely never seen before to entertain him)

>>38226

Also, can God hear your thoughts? Or is it only actions and spoken words he can sense?

>>38316

God knows absolutely everything without any limitations. not only does God know your thoughts, God put them there to begin with.

>>38315

who's terry davis? got any good videos or links?

>Is it true what Terry Davis says, that you should always seek to be entertaining for God to observe? (ie don't be a boring person, you should do/say things that god has likely never seen before to entertain him)

It really depends on what God has planned for you, and what you were meant to be like. You can try to be funny like a comedian, but it's not always the right moment for a joke. don't force yourself to be something you are not because it will just come off as ungenuine.

>>38328

https://youtu.be/ZK17tUH6d-Y?t=1m2s

He's a really intelligent programmer that knows the bible better than anyone.

>>38346

>>38328

Shit sorry I forgot to embed

>>38327

>not only does God know your thoughts, God put them there to begin with

So God's the reason behind my sinful urges too, or is that Satan? Why can't God's level overwhelm Satan's if his power is limitless?

>>38348

>So God's the reason behind my sinful urges too, or is that Satan? Why can't God's level overwhelm Satan's if his power is limitless?

I'm going to copy and paste some of the things from my thread, but I'll also link it in case you want to read it. it answers a lot of your questions.

>>>/fringe/120573

>all things that happen percieved by people as good or bad are things that God chooses to make happen

>we are imperfect human beings and we can not push God away, nor should we want to. we cannot shake our hands and make God fall away from us like flour from baking bread, nor should we want to. we can not wash God from ourselves no matter how hard we scrub, nor should we want to. even the evil globalists who blaspheme against God and commit horrible crimes can not shake God from themselves no matter how desperate they may be to do so. we can not sell our souls to anyone else or any other cause, nor should we want to- because we are all in the hands of God. we are all children of God. all is as God wills it. this is an absolute unbreakable fact.

>there is no devil or bad spiritual/religious enemy figure, and these false idol characters are always created by people who childishly refuse to give God credit for all events that take place.

>people who can't handle giving God credit for everything in every way, are accidentally foolishly insulting the intelligence of God by pretending they are taking away power from God by inventing false idol puppets like jesus and satan.

>some people can't handle giving God all the credit for everything because "my puppy died" and they rationalize "my puppy is good" so how can God be good if God made my puppy die? it's extremely sad and I'm not denying how these people feel even if I know that they are being stupid. not everyone can grasp the big picture, but even those who can grasp it are only grasping like a baby grasps at their mothers breast.

>there is no hell, other than the very earth we live on. when God made the earth, the sun, the moon, and the stars and said "and it was good" it was not good for humanity, but good for the purpose God has for humanity.

>>38369

just to further explain, you might want to read the image too at the start of the thread. after that, there is an image that shows all the spooky globalist satanic shills that for a while were trying to shut down my thread. even my mewch/fringe/ thread was mysteriously deleted multiple times in a row and then I was banned, so it really shows you how desperate they are to get rid of me.

what each part of the thread does

>main image

shows all the different connections between all these different religions and how they are all secretly pretty much the same religion, and exposes all kinds of deep corruption

>stalker shill image

shows the shills and how they freak out when the truth gets out

>main giant text of the whole thread

tells a bunch of truths and redpills and how to get closer to God.

>>38370

oh and here's the mewch /meta/ thread with me freaking out about the deletions and bans and getting trolled pretty hard… haha.

https://mewch.net/meta/res/3207.html#3207

>>38372

I never saw that since I usually hate every t.v. series I see as a result of it starting off good and then immediately going off the rails stupid and ruining everything. It's interesting that whenever I post this someone always posts a picture or brings up an example where heaven is portrayed or mentioned similarly.

Nothing happens. The cells and neurons that make up 'you' stop working and die out.

>>38375

yea, the car driving along the desert runs out of gas, the force of the steam pops the hood. the car dies. the person gets out and walks away.

are you the person or the car?

silly atheists!

>>38251

>It's supposed to be an unending fire with no end, I think I'd know.

>can't into metaphorical language

>>38223

Nothing happens to it. That's what death means. There IS no "after you die", from a subjective standpoint. There is no "you", post mortem. Whatever you remember before you were born, that is what awaits you on death.

>>38587

>There IS no "after you die",

Exactly, because there is no "die" in the first place; how can there be death when our definition of what "death" is, isn't even accurate? I think you're onto something, anon.

>Whatever you remember before you were born, that is what awaits you on death

You can only remember things when you have a brain though, right? And before that brain is formed, everything that would become you would be made purely of energy, wouldn't it? Therefore wouldn't that energy eventually have to become that physical brain, as well as everything else that's physical about you? And how would you define a "memory"? Considering all of your memories are contained in the physical brain, what would happen then once your memories return to their pure energy-based state? Is everything about your formulated consciousness a part of the energy as well, or did the consciousness never truly exist in the first place? I just don't quite understand where you're coming from when referring to having memories before or after your physical brain is functioning.

everyone saying you go to hell or that there's nothing are just a bunch of satanists, atheists, or a combination of the two (however weird that may sound) because they want to fuck everyones minds with fear based negative reinforcement.

>>38223

When death comes your senses will begin to shut down one by one. Once all five are gone, you perception will focus within. You will begin to see the two spheres of light that move about in the lunar and solar channels. They will draw near, meet, and converge in a flash of light. At that instant you will be outside your body, connected to it by a thread of light. The thread will shatter, a sort of portal will open nearby that your spirit will be drawn into. When you pass the threshold you will be hurtling down a tunnel. At the end you will see a bright light. The instant you pass the end threshold you will be within that light, which will likely overwhelm you, and cause a sort of unconsciousness. When you awaken you will be floating in a luminous void. From this point most of what is recounted in the 'Tibetan Book of the Dead (Evans-Wentz version) is mostly accurate.

>>38270

>both are referenced as "the morning star"

Stop reading Scofield kikery. Go read a proper KJV Bible instead.

>>39532

>go read a work of propaganda that was devised by a foolish monarchy and pretend it is somehow better than anything else

>Christianity isn't an anti-religion designed to divorce mankind from the sanctity of the natural world, afflict him with an amnesia so he forgets that all is cut from a common fabric, and to silence the ancestral voices calling to him from his blood.

>>38223

"Consciousness" is a curious word, op. It implied individuality. And in some ways there is individuality. But in other ways, there is only the whole. A way to envision this is to imagine your bed sheet. There are several wrinkles in it, and each wrinkle is in someway distinct from the other wrinkles, but ALL the wrinkles are the bed sheet.

Abrahamic anti-theology taught mankind a hyper individualist ideology that pits him against the natural world, and him against himself. Among these lies is the notion that a consciousness is a singular, highly distinct thing that has an ultimate destination, and which is classified according to a childish moral absolutism.

Your consciousness is vast, as it is connected to all other people, and all other things. As there are discrete phenomena, there are discrete "ends" to the components of your consciousness. Some of you will be reborn in your ancestral line along with those who came before you. Some of you will remain here in another form to guide your children. Some of you will find yourself in the next world "Helheim" where you will live a new life. Some of you will merge with nature in a way that could be thought of as ironing the wrinkles.

This individualist notion of consciousness is a consequence of being 3 dimensional creatures in at least a 4 dimensional universe. As you can only see time in moments we call "now" (as opposed to seeing the whole temporal reality of past-present-future as a singualr thing), you also only see yourself as a discrete "thing" from all other "things" because your vision is limited.

There are forces in this world that are pleased with this myopia. Be warned sternly, as they come with smiles and books, and condemnations of all others who do not turn against their nature as they have.

>>38223

Nothing you just wake up again homie why do people make this difficult your mind is the water your body is the cup where does the water go when you break the cup does it disappear or simply seem to from the perspective of someone looking at the cup consciousness is a neverending self aware fractal experienced simultaneously by all living creatures in the Universe experienced in localized temporal space what you think of as consciousness is nothing but SOURCE filtered through a human body we just get confused about which part of this thing we really are we identify as the physical because its the part that breaks and leaves pieces of shit laying around to polke and prod at and dismiss the water because it seemed to disappear.

>>38223

https://www.garyvollbracht.com/wp-content/uploads/12.01.28LuminousEmptiness.pdf

http://padmasambhavagururinpoche.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/padmasambhava_tibetan-book-of-the-dead_4.pdf

https://selfdefinition.org/zen/Dzogchen-Ponlop-Rinpoche-Mind-Beyond-Death.pdf

>>38250

>Consider this hypothetical: if you were to be born in hell, would you realise it was hell if nobody told you? Or would you believe it's normal life, especially considering that's what everybody else is saying?

You think even babies who know nothing consciously can't tell the difference between pain and pleasure? That's why they cry. Hell is perpetual and unending torment, the fact that we're not in perpetual torment in this life is a definite proof that we're not in hell. Otherwise to say "this is hell" is meaningless, since the concept of hell stands in contrast to earthly life.

>>38288

>Orthodox science says that consciousness is generated by the brain, so it can't survive death

But that's just nonsense, there is no scientific theory that even remotely explains consciousness, you're confusing the half-baked conjecture of scientists with science itself. Show me the scientific evidence that says consciousness is generated by brainstates. You can't, firstly because it doesn't exist, and secondly because it is incoherent to think that it could. Consciousness is metaphysical, and science is by definition testable hypotheses about the physical world, ergo science has nothing to say about consciousness.

Also

>Christ was a violent revolutionary

Well, other than being mostly non-violent, condemning revolution in general, and going willingly to his wrongful execution before his resurrection I guess. Amazing what fringe tards will come up with in order to libel the faith.

>>38300

Again, amazing how ignorant all the fringe faggots are of Christianity while supposedly having "esoteric knowledge". The whole premise is absurd, that the embodiment of love and self sacrifice could ever be of the same "character" of the father of lies is worse than idiotic.

>>38256

>Can you explain what makes it so true?

The obvious moral truth of Christianity is the explanation. You can't impart spiritual truth and life to the callous and self-concerned as though it were merely brute logic, it's like asking "how do I know I'm feeling love?" It's asinine to ask for a purely logical expression of such truth because spiritual truth transcends the logical, God's love for us isn't a thing of pure reason. Christ's story of endless love and self-sacrifice, and a chance for human redemption, that has so moved and entranced the spirit of the Western world for so long is it's own witness. It's a spiritual gift that you can only accept or reject, who are you that speaks back to your maker, demanding more than this?

>>38287

>they're severely ignorant and arrogant and don't accept any outside criticism or ideas and even refuse to address their own flaws

<Yeah, it's their /christian/-hugbox that gives them their confidence. It reminds me of the dark-ages.

Yeah as opposed to dimwit eastern "spiritualist" faggots like you, who are clearly so skilled in addressing the contradictions of your nonsense half self-invented gook fetish gobbledygook. But of course you're also that special brand of retard who also thinks that with "advanced technology" we'll one day gather enough science power to break through the barrier into the "spirit realm". You're not a transcendent esoteric yogi, you're just a dumb faggot who watched too much star trek, get a clue.

>>38224

That is beautiful. I hope that it is like that

Dmt

Its a soul trap mirror reality of base reality.

Everything has a mirror reflection.

Were in one of countless reflections of base reality.

The human experience requires a multitude of energies to coagulate together.

The ego is the brain and is created at birth. The insticts run your autonomous biological systems like breathing. And the soul observes everything choosing where and when to influence.

When you die the ego dies because the brain stops processing it. The instincts disappear and what's left is your soul.

Your soul is then free from the "shackles" of physical form and is able to go anywhere it wants and see anything it wants. An immature understanding of this may lead to fear as you unwittingly manifest the things you fear most.

This also explains why heinous murders lead to ghosts. Because the soul wasn't able to rationalize what happened to it and is stuck in a loop.

Your current life is essentially the gross product of all your thoughts leading up to your death in the last life.

The more you look into this you'll likely start to see how its true. The first 28 years of your life may have been spent doing something you weren't really great at naturally but made you feel like youve known it forever.

Then you have "midlife crisis" and find what THIS life has in store.

When you die you can leave this roy game. Many of us have. Some have chosen to come back for a variety of reasons.

Death is a big room filled with everyone.