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File: 3760f96a85e6e56⋯.jpg (36.69 KB, 265x292, 265:292, fatima2[1].jpg)

 No.28275

Hey /x/, "Kike-on-a-stick" pagan here. The other day I found info regarding Our Lady of Fatima which almost spooked me into Catholicism and started a path of checking out Marian apparitions/whatnot. Basically, give me your paranormal interpretations of this or likewise matters. Is it legitimate, and if so, what does that mean?

Regarding Fatima, I place the appearance on a weird axis whereof the reports of the "Dancing Sun" are a little more than I'd chalk up to crowd hysteria, but have too many holes for me to consider a legitimate vision. The appearance of Aurora Borealis might be a *little* too nearly-timed to Hitler's military actions to be coincidental, but a bit too far to be particularly ominous foretellings, particularly with everything that was happening politically at the time and the number of events that could have been called as correlation to the appearance of light in the sky. Similar uncertainty exists with Popes Pius & John Paul who I can't say whether their events and occurrences were acts of God or coincidences/attempts to legitimize the church.

A Catholic friend of mine suggested that I look into Our Lady of Akita which he says is even spookier. Apparently there was a video of the weeping statue of the Virgin Mary but I can't find it (or at least haven't found it yet.) The warnings which I've heard from that were a bit more vague and not as correlated as those of Fatima so I don't know if there's more to this I should check out.

Will continue to research the matter but I want to get your thoughts also. Debating whether I should repent as a Heathen or brush off as purely coincidental. I'm also >>>/pol/ and like the old gods better for political reasons but can reasonably make peace with Roman Catholicism whereof I'd like to avoid the lake of fire if it comes to that.

 No.28278

>into Catholicism

you don't


 No.28284

>Hey /x/, "Kike-on-a-stick" pagan here

What the fuck does that mean? You are both a christian and a pagan or something?


 No.28287

File: 3df16e115f42722⋯.png (274.69 KB, 1356x1304, 339:326, Bible.png)

>>28284

It's religious shorthand for people who oppose Christianity because of Jewish influence.


 No.28288

OP, this might be shocking to you but you have to realise that the ancient gods, including Yahweh, were not spirits. They were physical persons in flesh and blood, and Greek/Roman/Norse/Middle-Eastern gods all probably belonged to the same race, they just ruled over different people. This is obvious when you read Homer but also the Bible and ancient Sumerian tablets.

Christians, and I say this without meaning to offend, literally believe in a lie. The Hebrew Bible has been purposefully mistranslated by theologians and concepts like the original sin and eternity have been added to create a new religion that was based on Greek philosophy (especially Plato).

The gods used to walk among men, and religion was pretty much a contract between us and them. The first temples were actual houses for the gods, they only became places of worship at a later time. At some point the gods left or simply stopped interacting with us, and that's when we started believing they were spirits or symbols. So it makes no sense to worship them today, with what we know today, unless you do it for purely political reasons or out of respect for what is greater than you.

There is no lake of fire so don't worry about that, it's just a lie meant to scare you into believing.

The difference between Paganism and Christianity goes beyond the Jewish influence. Pagans believe nature itself is divine, while Christians reject the world as some sort of prison. Pagans value beauty, honour and strength, while Christians value humility, pureness and faith. Pagans care about blood and soil, while Christians only care about other Christians and their kingdom in the sky. Christians think they have a mission to convert everyone else to their religion, Pagans tend to mind their own business.

Modern organised religion is a cargo cult, this is true for both Pagans and Christians. And let's face it, a lot of modern pagans are fags, their ancestors would be ashamed of them. But I don't see how a /pol/ack can also be a Christian, regardless of antisemitism, Jesus preached tolerance and "love your enemy", and that goes against everything /pol/ believes in.


 No.28294

File: 8731924cd07d4e2⋯.png (250.7 KB, 522x516, 87:86, _protestant shilling.png)


 No.28295

Portuguese and Catholic here.

The main thinking in this country is either blind worship and praying rosarys all day (mostly from old ladies) or blindly arguing that the kids were on acids (from lefties, mostly).

We actually just had a huge argument all over the papers, because a communist party said it was a scandal that the state should spend any money on the Pope's visit, "perpetuating the hoax of Fatima", or some shit.

The most important thing about Fatima you have to remember is, it happened while our dictatorship under Salazar was creating it's roots, and it had it's big boom during the dictatorial regime. In many aspects, I'm perfectly sure it was fascist propaganda: they had a knack for making everything about Portugal, and the honor of the country, and having something like this? Gold.

It's kind of complicated. The kids to whom the Virgin appeared were simple shepherds, I do not think they would have the knowledge to claim that they were taught complicated prayers.

On the other hand, the miracle of the sun is very strange, with reports varying wildly from person to person.


 No.28296

File: d3b1e4ce6f5a069⋯.webm (4.02 MB, 640x360, 16:9, If I were the Devil.webm)

>>28295

If there is a whole background like you say then it might be that way.

But on the 'I want to believe' side I come with 3rd world country Virgin shenanigans without much background except 'Whelp, something's up with that statue'.

La Divina Pastora (The Divine Sheperdess) positioned on Barquisimeto, Lara -Venezuela- was actually never meant to arrive to what is now her home. Story goes

>(Current year + 1) - 280 = 1736

>Santa Rosa parson orders Immaculate Conception sculpture

>Divine Sheperdess arrives

>They attempt to send her back immediately

>Can't even lift the box again to take her back

>Conclude that she wants to stay there

Okay, that is easily explained with the fact that sending back such a big and delicate package to another continent and then have another equally delicate one delivered must have been a big chore, especially in the XVIII century. As a matter of fact that is what one of the sources that popped up say, on top of this whole ordeal happening in 1790.

>1812

>Big earthquake

>Big enough to play a decisive role in the war that was waging at the moment

>Destroyed the entirety of the church the statue was located at

>Sheperdess is standing, untouched like it's not her business that an earthquake decimated the place

This was taken by the people as a message of wanting to stay and protect them indefinitely.

Now the big guns:

>1855

>Cholera running rampant

>The people take her on a procession asking for a miracle

>Outbreak comes to an end

Alternative

>Priest asks her to stop the epidemic

>Take him as sacrifice/offering if needed be

>Statue lowers her staff a bit, in affirmative response

>Outbreak ends

>The skies take the Priest while no one is looking

All in all anon you have to know that there is weird in a lot of history, and Catholicism has been diluted to such a degree I doubt we 'get the point' of many things in its particular stories. For further inquiries into Christianity in general, you can attempt to lend an ear to people who just randomly state some biblical stuff and don't attend church that much -most churches, Catholic and Protestant have mellowed out and sometimes they deceive openly ending up more of a support group than a religious gathering-, they will tell you some juicy stuff. For example, one that doesn't roll around enough is the warning that this world is the Devil's and you should distrust everything around you -He who is a friend of the world is an enemy of God-.

This is about all I can provide, I am not even Christian at the moment since I haven't bothered reading my own bible once.


 No.28301

>>28296

Hatred of Nature is exemplary of Jewish religions. I'm guessing you're mediterranean so it's in your blood to prefer civilisation and society, but that doesn't mean it would hurt you or your people to seek a closer bond with Nature like many northern Euros have.

Anywho, the belief in Christian theology that the world is 'wicked' and a 'fallen creation' is the source of my greatest qualm with that brand of Abrahamism, and the reason why I embraced the Old Ways. Good luck to you, hopefully you can see the value of the faith of your pre-Christian ancestors.


 No.28310

>>28296

… I'm sorry, but I failed completely to understand the point you were trying to convey. Can you be more explicit, please? How does that all relate with Fatima?


 No.28381

>>28301

good luck dealing with all the smelly hippies. even though nature fundamentally hates their kind, those are the types your "one with nature" shit attracts.


 No.34748

What if it didn't happen?


 No.34792

again, Ancient Aliens covered this


 No.34800

>>34792

That show is so comfy.


 No.34834

>>34800

IKR Helps me sleep to play it all night


 No.34968

File: 39d623a9b00e465⋯.png (272.23 KB, 476x492, 119:123, 0b08fa64b52f9e3b.png)

>>28287

>using a term thats used to attack Jews for being anti-Christian to attack Christians


 No.34970

Mysterious Universe had an interesting article about Fatima a few days ago. It criticises both the Catholic and standard ufological interpretation.

http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2017/10/channeling-fatima/


 No.35026

>>28288

you really should check jesus quotes on the jews and the synagogue of satan


 No.35051

File: fb49a1344bc35e8⋯.jpeg (150.16 KB, 980x552, 245:138, asatru.jpeg)

File: 238cce19054f7e4⋯.jpeg (29.07 KB, 468x286, 18:11, wiccanlibshit.jpeg)

>>28381

> smelly hippies

You mean the wiccan neokikes?

The pagans I know (mostly Asatruars) are anything but that. They have structure in their lives and honourable jobs.

The wiccans only care about peace and love and never adress strength unless they need protection from something that hurts their feelings. And even then, I have witnessed these idiots sending peace and love to Standing Rock during the riots, thinking peace and love would solve an armed conflict. The thought did not even occur they needed strength and resistance instead of good feelings.

They were so backwards they allowed a masonkike to dedicate a part of a ritual to their "god with many faces".

They are so fucking blind they let that piece of filth hijack all the supposedly gathered energy of the ritual to a diety they didn't even know.

This is where their tolerence got them to do, and wonder why anyone with a brain calls them delusional.

They sound more like modern christians than anything remotely related to the Old Ways.

They do not understand the virtues and do whatever they feel like doing.

Sometimes you have Wiccans that are on the right path by accident, but do not have the mindset our ancestors would have needed to survive before the christian invasion. Or do not realise why they have psychic abilities and the gay couple attending the gathering can't get anything remotely spiritual to work except their own dicks.

Pics related to compare both sides, guess which one is Asatru and new-age wiccans.


 No.35064

File: c021b986ac38e97⋯.jpg (36.51 KB, 521x509, 521:509, Ctxdz_fXYAE1n0N.jpg)

>>28275

OP, definitely into catholicism.

Ignore that faggots saying otherwise.

The aparitions are signs from God.

Repent as a heathen and turn to the true faith.


 No.35089

>>28275

Read cosmic trigger normie


 No.35096

>>35064

OP should become orthodox tbh much better for your health

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 No.35097

>>35089

lol RAW

>cosmic trigger I

stupid hippie shit RAW literally recants a decade later

>cosmic trigger II

RAW's recantation of most of I and goes into mid-80's cultural commentary including his P2 Italian/Vatican conspiracy

>cosmic trigger III

completely divorced from I, mentions only /fringe/ discordian shit in passing; softly acknowledges what is essentially the illuminati and just hopes they don't fuck us up too bad, mostly concerned with ranting about pseudo-libertarian stuff mixed with very early alt-right viewpoints

I used to admire RAW, but the man got burnt out on life quickly. Moreover, his /fringe/ investigations are creepy as shit; it's a pleasant mix of frauds and people just consorting with demons. He even brings up his fear of the Christian God multiple times because he realizes he's fucked up messing with that satanic garbage. Poor RAW.


 No.35098

>>35097

Oh, and despite confirming that satanic visions are real, RAW died memeing that spaghetti monster garbage even though he ran into the Enemy…

I've wondered if there's any hope for RAW; if prayer would do anything for him, but I wonder if he's down there, where prayers aren't heard. I hope grounded glass isn't being poured in his eyes.




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