/x/ - Paranormal

There are so many odd cases, from Dennis Martin to the Stacy Arras case

I just can't wrap my head around how someone can disappear in the blink of an eye. No signs of struggle, no type of evidence, nothing.

A fact that REALLY caught my interest, an FBI agent who was assigned to look over a lot of these odd cases ended up committing suicide. Kinda makes you wonder what he knew.

I remember a case where a kid was on a cliff with a "robot" that looked liked his grand mother, he said she had lights coming out of her head. While he was with he her he said he observed objects laid out that looked like guns that were very dusty. The kid said that the thing asked him to poop on a piece of paper, he refused and she got very angry.

Crazy thing is the kids actual grand mother and her husband were camping at the SAME area a few weeks before, she said she was woken up in the middle of the night from a Sharp pain, it looked like she was stuck with a needle or something.

Cloning?

more are missing that havnt been linked to this.

Alot of woods that dont have missing that I happen to know are 3spooky5me..

i dont understand why the cell phones all have have tracking device gps cellphones that you cannot turn off

but all these people went missing. [wtf]

also they should stop being faggots and put cell coverage in the mountains with their 400,000,000$ profits

>>16895

The FBI agents name was Jim Rike.

This fact was unknown to David Paulides until he interviewed Dennis Martin's father, who told him about the agents suicide.

>>16899

I doubt you'll be able to confirm with any actual documents considering the fact that he was in the FBI, they're very hush hush.

>>16862

>Stacy

>Over the next few days hundreds of searchers, national guard and local volunteers searched the area but never found a trace of Stacy.When the author of the Missing 411 books David Paulides was researching the Stacy Arras case, after twice having Freedom of information requestions denied to him, he was told quite bluntly that "he would never get this case".

kek

>>16905

Lol yeah the agent on the phone pretty much told him to fuck off without actually saying those words.

>>16898

Well a lot of these cases range from the late 1800's up until now.

Although I do agree on that, those companies make more than enough money to not have coverage in mountains and similar areas.

>>16861

>Free mason's require sacrifice

>free masons own police

/thread

>>16949

any source on this, i consider myself a free mason and i would never sacrifice anything in fact im more like a freedom fighter and dont want to associate with the wrong group. (also kind of scared of who would kill me if they knew what i did, masons or illuminati or templars)

also if u know what side templars are on alium or man let me know, its debatable what side the vatican is on so idk about templars.

>>16970

You consider yourself a free mason? It's either you're a member or you're not.

>>16949

That's a theory thats been mentioned before and it could have some weight. Although I don't know how they would manage to pull some of these off, most disappearances happen when the victim is only a few hundred feet from whoever they're with

It's definitely an interesting theory though.

>>16970

I don't know much about free masons but I doubt they partake in those type of activities. From what I've read masons now a days really aren't shit besides old dudes meeting up to chat. Although for really high level masons, I feel like there could be a possibility.

This is from David himself.

"I know that the vast majority of you will never meet a parent who has lost their child, never knowing where they are or what happened. That life void has to be the worst experience any parent could have. The most riveting and emotional interviews I have ever done was with one of those parents, Dennis Martins father, Bill.

Looking back in my career, there have been dozens of times where I investigated missing teenagers, young kids and adults, on nearly every occasion the disappearance turned out to be voluntary. A seasoned investigator could become very calloused to another case and allow that series of experiences to push them to generalize. Ah, this is just another missing person case, probably bad parenting, poor relationship, people feeling sorry for themselves, etc, etc. What I learned years ago, you can NEVER generalize, about anything. Just because you had five experiences where it didn't end the way you thought, that doesn't mean the 6th will turn out the same. If you lose sight of this fact, the relationships and communications you have will be less then honorable and you'll never get to the truth behind the issue.

The background behind the Martin case was pretty straight forward. Dennis disappeared on a rural field in Rocky Mountain National park. What followed is a series of incidents that are truly unreal. When we started to investigate this incident, it appeared that Mr. Martin had been lied to by the investigators inside the National Park Service and by the FBI. It specifically looked as if they were withholding the most valuable information that was gathered in the case.

One of the biggest revenue generators in the Knoxville area is Rocky Mountain National Park. In 2010, (www.nps.gov…) this article states that the park generated 818 million in revenue for the gateway communities, this is HUGE. The number of businesses surrounding the park that are dependent on the park visitors for revenue is large.

If the park admits that a small boy might have been abducted, this could have a major effect on the surrounding communities and park visitations. Ah, but there wasn't just one mysterious disappearance, there have been several. The theory behind the Martin abduction wasn't mine, the retired head tracker for the park service states that he now believes Dennis was abducted.

When I met Mr. Martin at his house, the same house he lived when Dennis disappeared, the man still looked the same as in 1969. He came to the door, I explained who I was and asked for a few minutes of his time. He explained that this disappearance had had a major impact on the life of he and his wife and that he had promised his wife it would no longer be discussed. I explained that I had traveled from California specifically to speak with him and asked for just a few minutes. He closed the door behind him and stepped onto the front porch.

Cont

"

When Mr. Martin and I started to talk, the man had tears in his eyes. The disappearance of his son had destroyed this families life. At the time of their biggest need, they turned to the NPS for assistance and direction on finding Dennis. Mr. Martin told me that the NPS, investigators and the press had lied and withheld information, I explained what I knew, he was surprised. I asked a few deep questions that probably have never been asked. I explained that I knew the "Key" family had seen something on a hillside in a reasonable time frame after Dennis disappeared and wanted to know if there was something else about this that wasn't released. Mr. Martin stated that the FBI and NPS never wanted this information released to him or the public. They also never wanted the public to know that whatever was seen on that hillside, was carrying something on its shoulder. I believe that the direct impression he wanted to leave was that Dennis could've been on that shoulder. The NPS and FBI told Mr. Martin that the time frames for this observation didn't work, that was a LIE. Dwight McCarter (the tracker for the park service at the time) and Mr. Martin quickly walked from Spence Field to the point of the "Key" observation in a time frame that would've made the sighting possible.

Imagine at the time of your greatest need, when you were absolutely at your lowest point in life, the one time when you needed the governmental agencies there to assist, find and comfort and they do exactly the opposite. You've just lost your most important possession and now the people you've always looked to as honorable turn out to be something quite different.

The last question I ask any witness before I leave, "Is there something about this incident that isn't known by the public and is something I should understand?" Mr. Martin stated that there was. He asked if I was aware of the number of disappearances in the mountains near the time Dennis disappeared, I named them. He asked if I knew the FBI agent that was on scene in each of those cases, I named him. He asked if I knew what happened to him, I stated I did not. Mr. Martin stated that the agent committed suicide. This was later confirmed. It was apparent that Mr. Martin gave us this information for a specific reason.

Our investigation into the Dennis Martin disappearance uncovered several major facts that the public does not know. The Martin family has never had justice in this case and has never experienced support and honesty from the NPS or the Knoxville Press. Each one of the four major television networks in Knoxville refused to report on any of this information. Do I understand why Mr. Martin refuses to talk to the press, absolutely. The support mechanisms meant to support victim families failed the Martins. When I walked away from meeting Mr. Martin, I had tears in my eyes. I know I could never feel the totality of his pain, but I felt some small part of this fathers loss. He lost his son and we weren't there to support him. "WE", I mean we as people. If we start to put our compassion, understanding and honesty on the shelf and work towards an agenda, or allow our behavior to be controlled by past experiences causing us to generalize, we have lost a large part of our humanity.

Thank you for the experience"

1981 – Stacy Arras – Yosemite National Park Details of Disappearance: Stacy rode into an area of Yosemite with her father and 6 others where they reached a cluster of cabins, where people could rest up overnight. The group tied the horses and some of them went into the cabins to freshen up. After getting changed into different clothes Stacy left her cabin with the intention of photographing the lake, she had her camera with her. She asked her Dad if he wanted to go with her to lake but he declined and instead a 72 year old man from their group decided to go with her instead, after a little while down the hill the elderly man felt tried and sat down, the rest of the group watching from up above saw the man sit down. They all watched as Stacy went on a little further towards the lake, go behind a couple of trees and eventually disappear from sight, after a few moments when she didn't return the elderly gentleman was a little worried and gathered the others for a search, they found Stacy's lense from her camera just a little way into the woodland but no other clues were found. Over the next few days hundreds of searchers, national guard and local volunteers searched the area but never found a trace of Stacy.When the author of the Missing 411 books David Paulides was researching the Stacy Arras case, after twice having Freedom of information requestions denied to him, he was told quite bluntly that "he would never get this case".

The only thing they ever found of her was her lense cap.

Amber Rose Smith

In early October a few miles to the southeast, the summer of 2013 would end on a much happier note when two-year-old Amber Rose Smith vanished from in front of her home on East 13 Mile Road and Cottonwood Avenue. Her father was watching her and had just stepped inside to use the bathroom. When he came back out, Amber and their two dogs that she had been playing with were gone. When he called to them, the dogs slunk back out of the woods, but there was no sign of Amber.

After a frantic 24-hour search by over two hundred volunteers and a hundred emergency service personnel, she was found the next day, almost two miles southeast of her home, standing in the middle of a two track road and staring blankly into space. She was unharmed except for some superficial cuts and scrapes on her body and face. How a barefoot, two and half foot tall girl wearing nothing but a tank top had managed to traverse almost two miles of some of the most ruggedly-forested land in the lower forty-eight almost unscathed and without being discovered by all those people searching for her was never explained.

Newaygo County Undersheriff Brian Boyd said “It’s hard to imagine how a 2 1/2-year-old can survive that distance through the woods with that kind of temperature.” Temperatures had plunged down to forty-five degrees during the night.(8) He went on to say “there’s some that aren’t convinced she walked that entire distance. Maybe she was dropped off. Those are things we might have to determine in the future.”

Can't wait for this, these missing persons cases give me the chills

>>18494

They should because he's now investigating urban disappearances as well. Missing 411 is everywhere.

>>18494

Holy shit, the first guy who talks about his missing son Jared was my gym teacher a long time ago.

>>18510

The Jaryd Atadero case? No shit?? Damn thats crazy, I'm quite familiar with that case.

Here's a really nice compilation of different cases that David has talked about.

>>16973

>From what I've read masons now a days really aren't shit besides old dudes meeting up to chat

>ask high level mason I know to join

>he invited me over for a meeting

>go to meeting

>old guys watching westerns and talking about local politics and smoking

>5 hours

Never again, 2spooky Illuminati for me

Anybody got this ebook they can share?

>>18598

That's bs. Paulides is not a Tsoukalos. He always emphasizes that he doesn't know the cause and refrains from publicly pursuing any baseless theories out of respect for the victims and their relatives.

>>18510

Damn, small world isn't it?

>>18592

I've looked all over for it, too, and am still searching for a copy.

The Little Wanderer

Alice Rachel Peck, aged 3 years and four months, wandered away from her home in Burn's Valley, Thursday August 25th 1898, in search for her mother , who went on an errand. The little girl traveled an old and unused bark road, climbed over a high and very rough mountain and there, worn out with hunger and without bonnet or shoes, for three day and night had nothing to eat but a few huckleberries, while friends and neighbors were diligently searching for her or her remains.

She was found on Sunday morning, August 28th at half past seven o'clock, by William Bair, sound and well. She neither smiled or cried as two hundred voices rang out the glad tidings of great joy, five miles from her home, in the mountains.

While her parents were in great agony at home, they were soon relieved when hearing the many voices and trumpets, proclaiming that the lost had been found. On the same morning the child was found and in the same vicinity, from 8 until half past 11 o'clock, 13 rattlers, 2 vipers and 2 copperheads were killed.

All returned happy, but some were very near worn out. The majority of those who participated in the child hunt saved their canes as relics of the day.

His grandmother was the Alice's younger sister. The reporter makes it sound like a light-hearted adventure. They were picking berries with a group . Her mother left and went back to the house for some reason. When she came back, the group had thought that the girl had been with her mother. She had her shoes and bonnet when last seen. The area hasn't changed much since then. It has basic Pa. mountain terrain with enough dirt between the boulders and rocks to grow trees and mountain laurel. You have to crawl under or walk on top of it. Her uncle wasn't buying she traveled to where they found her on her own.

Alice was asked how she got over those big rocks. She told him "the big black man helped her." That's all she could tell him. If it had been a black man in that area back then, he would have been well-known by the residents.

One other story I've been told from that time period. Not much in detail. A family from the Doylesburg, Pa area would visit relatives in the Fort Loudon, Pa & Burnt Cabins, Pa area (Franklin County, Pa) in the fall for a few days and help butcher. On one of the visits, the morning they were leaving, one man decided to stay and help with some things and walk home later. His walk home took longer than expected. They wanted him to stay as he'd have to walk the mountain in the dark (The Tuscarora Trail now). Saying the wolf would get him. He wanted to get home and said if they loaned him a hay fork he would be OK. He took the fork and starting on his way. Later his mutilated remains were found along the path, with the fork near by.

On the 26th December 1900, a small ship was making its way to the Flannan Islands in the remote Outer Hebridies. Its destination was the lighthouse at Eilean Mor, a remote island which (apart from its lighthouse keepers) was completely uninhabited.

Although uninhabited, the island has always sparked people’s interest. It is named after St. Flannen, a 6th century Irish Bishop who later became a saint. He built a chapel on the island and for centuries shepherds used to bring over sheep to the island to graze but would never stay the night, fearfulof the spirits believed to haunt that remote spot.

Captain James Harvey was in charge of the ship which was also carrying Jospeph Moore, a replacement lifehouse keeper. As the ship reached the landing platform, Captain Harvey was surprised not to see anyone waiting for their arrival. He blew his horn and sent up a warning flare to attract attention.

There was no response.

Joseph Moore then rode ashore and ascended up the steep set of stairs that leaded up to the lighthouse. According to reports from Moore himself, the replacement lighthouse keeper suffered an overwhelming sense

Once at the lighthouse, Moore noticed something was immediately wrong; the door to the lighthouse was unlocked and in the entrance hall two of the three oil skinned coats were missing. Moore continued onto the kitchen area where he found half eaten food and an overturned chair, almost as if someone had jumped from their seat in a hurry. To add to this peculiar scene, the kitchen clock had also stopped.

Moore continued to search the rest of the lighthouse but found no sign of the lighthouse keepers. He ran back to the ship to inform Captain Harvey, who subsequently ordered a search of the islands for the

A few days later, Robert Muirhead, the board’s supernatant who both recruited and knew all three men personally, departed for the island to investigate the disappearances.

His investigation of the lighthouse found nothing over and above what Moore had already reported. That is, except for the lighthouse’s log…

Muirhead immediately noticed that the last few days of entries were unusual. On the 12th December, Thomas Marshall, the second assistant, wrote of ‘severe winds the likes of which I have never seen before in twenty years’. He also noticed that James Ducat, the Principal Keeper, had been ‘very quiet’ and that the third assistant, William McArthur, had been crying.

What is strange about the final remark was that William McArthur was a seasoned mariner, and was known on the Scottish mainland as a tough brawler. Why would he be crying about a storm?

Log entries on the 13th December stated that the storm was still raging, and that all three men had been praying. But why would three experienced lighthouse keepers, safely situated on a brand new lighthouse that was 150 feet above sea level, be praying for a storm to stop? They should have been perfectly safe.

Even more peculiar is that there were no reported storms in the area on the 12th, 13th and 14th of December. In fact, the weather was calm, and the storms that were to batter the island didn’t hit until December 17th.

The final log entry was made on the 15th December. It simply read ‘Storm ended, sea calm. God isoverall’. What was meant by ‘God is over all’?

After reading the logs, Muirhead’s attention turned to the remaining oil skinned coat that had been left in the entrance hall. Why, in the bitter cold winter, had one of the lighthouse keepers ventured out without his coat? Furthermore, why had all three lighthouse staff left their posts at the same time, when rules and regulations strictly prohibited it?

Jaryd Atadero and Bobby Bizzup

Three year old Jaryd Atadero vanished from the Big South trail in Poudre Canyon, Colorado on October 2, 1999. He was hiking with a Christian group that was staying at his father’s lodge; a well known Christian retreat.

Somehow Jaryd got ahead of the party of twelve, and the last people to see him alive were two men fishing in the Cache la Poudre River.The fishermen claim he was still within sight of his group when he asked them if they had seen any bears in the area.They told him to get back with his group and kept fishing. Four teams of tracking dogs could find no trace of him, and during the search, an Air Force helicopter crashed, injuring its five occupants.

His remains wouldn’t be found until four years later and over five hundred feet above the trail he disappeared on, in a place only accessible by rope and a steep incline most adults couldn’t climb.

Strange scratches were found on the cranium.The forensic experts consulted by Paulides are unable to identify their source, but unanimously concur that they were not made by any animal. Many of the children who are found have been severely scratched on their skin.

The search for little Jaryd was a media event right from the start. But according to Allyn Atadero, Jaryd’s father who wrote the book Missing which recounts it, It was badly, if not deliberately,botched.Jaryd had disappeared in forest land under the jurisdiction of the federal government. Inconsistent with past policy in the thousands of cases investigated by Paulides the FBI refused to get involved or even to send an observer.

During the search,the Atadero family was inexplicably threatened with arrest by the sheriff if they set foot on the Big South Trail.

Jaryd’s remains were found on June 4, 2003 by some hikers.They were lying out in the open. Allyn suspects they had been placed there to be found. The colors of the sneakers were still vibrant and his tooth was on top of a decaying log when it should have been submerged in bacteria accumulated in over four years in the wilderness. The sweat pants had been found inside out yet when the sheriff held his press conference they had been turned right side out for display to the media. When Allyn objected he was ignored and the sweat pants left that way.

The tooth could have been placed there by a rodent.

But there is no logical explanation for this sneaker appearing like this after being exposed to the elements nine thousand feet up in the Rockies for four years.

Hair fibers that were found on the boy’s sweater were also analyzed, but no test results were ever released. All they've ever been told was that the hairs were non-human, but that he shouldn’t worry about it.

About twenty miles south of the Jaryd Atadero tragedy, a generation before it, and again in Rocky Mountain State Park, 10-year-old Bobby Bizup vanished on the evening of August 15, 1958. He was staying at Camp Saint Malo, a Roman Catholic boys retreat at the foot of Mount Meeker. He was the only son of master sergeant Joseph Bizup, who was stationed at Lowry Air Force Base in Denver at the time.

In spite of a massive search,including bloodhounds and airplanes, the only sign of Bobby found that year was his bait box about a mile from the creek where he was last seen by his counselor, fishing. The following year, some of his bones and his hearing aid were found three miles up Mount Meeker,all the way at the timber line.

This is some interesting stuff. Maybe some sort of Thuggee type cult is responsible. One of these disappearances happened in a state park I've been going to since I was a kid.

>>21241

Well i think its obvious that not one single entity is responsible for these disappearances considering how far back some of them go, not to mention they're all over the US. Some of them have really odd details as well,

Like the Dennis Martin case that i posted above,

>>21241

Also no shit? Which park/disappearance?

>>21243

Devil's Den in Arkansas.

Here's a link:

http://vistaramicjourneys.com/devils-den-state-park

>>21242

The Thuggee operated for hundreds of years. They were extremely efficient and stealthy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thuggee

>>21244

White Males of German descent being drugged and who knows what then being dumped in a river..please tell me /pol/ isn't right.

>>16949

It's definitely not masons.

Even though they are top tier goys.

>>16970

If you consider yourself a mason then you're one naive and convoluted idiot. You can very easily look up that the police are connected with the Freemasons. They literally have a fraternal order you can look up.

>>16973

>doesn't know much about freemasons

>makes an assertion anyway about them

toppest of keks

It depends on where you are at and what lodge you are in, friend. They aren't all self-serving egoists who want to 'help' their community by paying a lot of money to that sekrit club bullshit.

Missing 411? more like a missing God because

GOD'S NOT REAL

>>21284

>.please tell me /pol/ isn't right.

I hope so. I never wanted them to be dead.

>>21244

FUCK I live right by there

>>21244

>>21326

Yeah it's pretty unsettling and the thing is these places have those names for a reason, Devils Den in Arkansas, Devils Nest in Nebraska etc. It makes you wonder why they were given those names when they first were discovered many many years ago.

>>16861

hehehehe i knew saving this private video would be essential one day. also i cant wait to read this thread i have so many theories :))

it wont embed for some autisitc reason so here

https://youtu.be/IEL9jDMnhz4?list=PLwCWK1w2DoH0FIUh9ZSuJcr_XcSlR_Zmu

>>16861

>>21395

but any way after you listen to the whole 2 hour interview David basically makes a profile of the entity of that is preforming the kidnappings. Now my proposition is that this kidnapping phenomenon and the skin walker phenomenon are related based off http://pastebin.com/N0LWnymW

>>21395

fixed

>>21395

>>21396

op here, Nice I used to listen to that video so many times when I first got into Missing 411.

Hmm I mean that would make some sort of sense since most, if not all Skinwalker encounters i've read about have all occurred in a forest/woods. But it wouldn't really make sense since in most skinwalker stories the person isn't really kidnapped, more like body snatched. Also the heavy iron/blood smell that's associated with Skinwalkers never come up during any of the cases.

But hey you never know. I'll post some other cases as well

>>21400(checked)

David actually mentions that case in the above video >>21397 he doesnt talk about your man directly but he mentions Indonesia and shiny things and talks about it briefly. where did you hear this guy was it here or on youtube or was it second hand?

>>16861

almost through the first book and man its spooky. especially when i'm an /out/ guy myself and one case did happen in my county on a trail i've hiked. not to mention last year some guy was found dead after going missing on a day hike right nearby my town.

>>21400

sounds like this

http://www.unknowncountry.com/insight/disappearances-indonesia

>>21400

Op here I actually remember that story pretty clearly, the guy didn't go into detail though so you pretty much explained it all. Anyways the guy is David Paulides, the author I'm talked about in the thread. That part was from an interview he did ok Coast to Coast am. I'd give you a link but David has a few interviews with C2C and they're all an hour+ so listening to them all wouldnt be easy lol. but yeah man that little excerpt was pretty weird, I wonder if it would apply to forests in the US as well.

>>21416

>>21400

That anon posted a link to the interview that story is in

>>21415

well idk i just feel like 411 missing person and skin walkers are related they have similar characteristics and theres a couple skin walker stories that involve compasses completely fucking up and shooting them doesnt seem to effect them however in one story steel core rounds made the skin walker drop like a rock.

>>21421

I mean its definitely a possibility dude, no one really knows at this point. But I think its safe to say that its not one entity that's doing this (imo) considering how far back some of the cases go.

>>21421 cont

this gets me thinking that these "things" using electromagnetic waves can influence the human brain/perception into seeing something else thats not there. hence why they make compasses go crazy and why the steel core bullets effected on so heavily (steel is magnetic) and what ever is taking people in the 411 cases seems to be able to influence peoples perception heavily (convince them to come with them knock them out ect)

>>21423

and when you take the influencing perception idea into account that brings to mind faries and other "woodling" creatures that would try to "talk" people into doing things coming with them but you probly get my idea. now the question as to what these things actually are the possibilities go as fallows;

1.) something that has evolved on this planet

2.) something that did not evolve on this planet

Im betting that its 1.) as something that can transport from one planet to another fucking around with people and kidnapping people just doesnt quite add up at the moment. also im not denying that the entity int eh 411 cases could be a human organization. we are working with a lot of vacuum space as i like to call it

>>21422

the Bryce Florian Herda case in Neah Bay, Washington.

I live about 2 hours away but I go out there alot for camping and such. the creepiest part is my parents would take me to that very trail and we would hike down to the beach around when I was the exact same age as that kid (6). I have the feeling that if we had gone out on the wrong day I could have been right after him in the list.

but yeah some weird shit happens out here, have a link to a relevant local news story from a few years back http://www.peninsuladailynews.com/article/20130913/NEWS/309139971

>>21426

Yeah man some of those cases where something would convince them to follow them is weird.

It is obviously something intelligent if you look at the Dennis Martin case, whatever took him was darting in between the trees actively trying to hide.

But its crazy man i mean i've considered some sort of cryptid, hell even time slips.

Do you remember a case where a boy was with his brother or sister something like that, they were on the way to a lake, one of the kids ran ahead just a few feet and he was in some completely different part of the forest. In the blink of an eye he was gone, they found the kid and he said he didn't know what happened. He couldnt hear their yells for him, He said he ran ahead and when he looked back for his brother he was in a completely different part of the forest.

Cases like that make it hard to decide on whats doing this.

but what REALLY interests me in claims of Wildmen. Basically feral men who live off the grid in these national parks. David has mentioned them a few times but never any extensive cases.

>>21427

I'll have to look into that case. but holy fuck i bet that makes the story that much more creepy. That could have been you man.

>>21428

I'd have to go back through the first book to find it but I remember one a case a father and son where sheltering from a blizzard under a tree and one of them thought they saw head lights and went to look for help.

I forget if the one who left was the one who wasn't found or if he came back and the other guy was gone but it reminds alot of a Will-o'-the-wisp type thing.

personally I think not all of it is explained by one phenomena but that there is more in our world still than we understand. I think some of it could be cryptids like

>>21430

>>21431

while some might be murderers,wildmen, hermits, or cults. Hell I can even get behind some being taken by ayy lmaos, demons, skinwalkers, fae folk, forest spirits who knows. But that's exactly what makes it so interesting (and terrifying)

>>21428

i havent read the books ive only herd the interview that ive posted. My thing is that through davids books and research he basically has built a profile for this entity. and time slipping has been suggested to him but theres definitely an intelligent being doing a lot of foot. what id like to see happen is a group of people bait one of these things out with kidnapping bait. David has give us a profile and we should use it to catch what ever this thing is. I mean the US government has an obvious interest in it based off the fact that the green berets show up in a couple of the search and rescue efforts for no apparent reason. I suspect the interest is similar to the UFO phenomenon (govt publicly denies it while secretly tries to figure out what is going on by any means necessary)

It's a shame there aren't any pdfs of the books floating around, apparently.

>>21433

you need to read the books man, those interviews are good but they don't even scratch the surface. A lot of details are left out in the interviews,

>>21433

Also he's said it himself that he doesn't have an opinion on what it is, sometimes he'll hint at random things every now and then but nothing consistent.

So, what is your suggestion to solve this mystery? Cover all clusters with cameras and other sensors? Surely, there has to be something that can be measured or seen.

>>21583

I have read these stories about pedophile rings since always. It seems once you get your first million you turn magically into a pedophile.

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>>21397

I got to listen to this, and I really want to hear about cases in Florida because it does feel like I almost always hear some missing persons report every other week here and he mentions how many cases we have.

Where would I even begin to look up stuff about cases in my area ?

>>22627

Yeah it's insane dude, I wonder what the fuck happens. In the case of Larry King, he instigated that type of behavior to use as blackmail later on

>>22643

Well keep in mind the interviews don't even scratch the surface as far as information, the actual books will give you a better understanding of it. Florida is mentioned a few times, if you're really interested check out David's other interviews, he has quite a few and he discusses cases in all of them.

It depends, are you in a city or a rural area? Pretty much all of the cases take place in national forests, national parks etc. Although his most recent book A Sobering Coincidence is strictly about cases in urban areas.

>>22650

Maybe these mega tycoons have so much money and done everything, so this is like the final thrill they do to not get bored?

>>22627

>>22627

Maybe it's just a condition in some sort of fucked up game. Every single thing you achieve comes with a conversely proportional downside when it is at the expense of others.

Could be somehow related?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/17/missing-and-murdered-indigenous-women-in-canada-could-number-4000

is it just me or does nobody mention the most likely possibility? even for 50 threads

something in the mountains is eating people

nobody heard of the 1960s "the alien peoples of mount shasta?

imo they openly experiment on humans, using chemicals… ex: aspartame, sweet n low -> Shasta soda

>>22690

Yeah David has mentioned that theory before, I mean it's really kind of hard to chalk it up to it being one thing considering how far back some of these cases go. Not to mention they're all over the US

>>22690

Well, it's not so easy. I'm not even sure there is a single explanation that fits all cases.

>>22716

This. Some of these cases go back to the late 1800's, not to mention they're scattered all over the US. David said he could write a whole book just on Texas. So it's hard to imagine it being one entity that's doing this.

Would be interesting if a group decided to set up bait.

Group goes hiking days after day. Have the bait wired with live video feed and a panic button. Have everyone armed.

Have the bait fall behind and end up by themselves. Just repeat the process once a week or daily if time allows. See what happens.

>>22733

Yeah that'd definitely be interesting, everyone would need a gps transponder though.

But the thing about these cases is that they happen in the blink of an eye, it's not some obvious situation where someone walked deep into the forest like a jackass

It's more like someone stepped behind a bush for a minute and they're instantly gone.

>>>/tg/221004

/tg/ has been discussing Kek and Meme Magic and this idea came up while discussing the possibility of being able to meme fictional places into existence.

Fae, demons, and extradimensional entities who scoop people up and spirit them away without a trace are common in nearly all mythologies and folk legends. Tales of getting lost in the forest and encountering supernatural beings are very common too. The Grimm Fairy Tales cover a number of stories about shit happening in the woods. And of course, you've got all kinds of cryptids said to lurk in these giant national parks.

Look up some of the bizarre shit that people have seen while hiking the Appalachian Trail.

Possibility exists that there's some weird shit lurking in theses old forests that might be the result of thousands of years of meme magic.

>>22738

>Weird shit exists because people manifested their fears into reality

>t. Sphere screenwriter

Ever thought about the possibility that those stories exist because people discovered actual weird shit and told others about it? Paulides already noticed that some of the locations have weird names like "devil's pass" (or something like that) even though the origin of the name might be uncertain.

>>22739

Meme magic has some very strange properties that may make it self-fulfilling or paradoxically cyclical.

Or it might just be a coincidence.

Just a thought.

Have a story from Bulgaria, Haskovo. Town is full of odd cases. Also, translation is shoddy because I'm on a phone.

A few days ago in the dam Trakies, a 42 year old man by the name Ivan Ivanov had been found dead. The man left his home without saying anything to his family and has been searched for over a week. A random passerby finds the man sunk in the dam, near village Nikolovo. Rescue services pull out the man and his car from the dam. There are no signs of violence and the case looks like a suicide. But why? This is the question that his friends and family ask.

It's hard to determine if he commit suicide or not as there was no suicide note left behind. His family is sure that he never mentioned suicide. He hasn't acted like a man who would end his life either. However, the man had suffered from hepatitus B and had been having a long therapy, taking antibiotics, which in turn damaged his liver.

The drowned man's brother says tgat he was heading to Sofia for a new kind of treatment. This ruins his mind and the man closes himself away in his conscience. He still continued to do sports and go fishing with his favorite car. The day of his disappearance is like any other. He puts on his tracksuit, heads into his car and drives into nothingness. That nothing is the dam. Whether it was suicide or not, we may never know.

>>22755

Dam is Trakiec, ma baad.

>>22738

Lol besides the meme magic shit, there is some truth to your post, there are tons of folklore of things in the forest. David has mentioned fairies, demons etc before and it's very interesting. I remember him mentioning that in Poland (I think) they believe something lives in boulders, they believe in these legends so much that they'll completely avoid boulders if they're building something they'll build around it instead of moving the boulder. It's interesting how these stories start.

>>22761

>Poland

Iceland

>>16861

When it comes to babies or young kids:

>eagles

>wolves

>wild animals picking them up and running off for the lels

>crevices or caves they fall into/get lost in

adults:

>

>

>

>fuck, who knows?

>>22761

> I remember him mentioning that in Poland (I think) they believe something lives in boulders

Definitely not poland my good friend

>>22769

And dingoes, Mr. Rationalist.

>>22769

Problem is that there aren't many birds big enough to carry off a child, wolves wouldn't attack out of the blue without a sound, nor would they go close enough to large gatherings of humans, and in any of these cases, there would be a sound.

They send out search parties and find NOTHING. No trace of clothing or blood or bones or anything at all. I want to say the Dennis Martin case had a group of hundreds scouring the woods.

Unless the Earth is opening up and closing in the span of a few moments, most of these disappearances are weird as fuck.

>>22777

That's what intrigues me most, that not a single trace of these people are ever found. Or we are extremely careless and not look hard enough or they vanish as if snatched by fairies.

>>22778

>>22777

Consider this:

They are being moved to a different dimension, an alternative reality.

>>22782

Is it one with waifus?

Can I go next?

>>22782

That's certainly a possibility.

>>22770

>>22766

It was Iceland there we go thanks anon

>>22782

Time slips is a theory that has been mentioned to David before, hell it's even one of my theories.

I remember where some kid and his sister and guardian were on the way to a lake, they were just beyond the view of the lake when he ran past their view behind some bushes. He said he walked no more than a few feet but when he tried to look back for his sister he realized he was in a completely different part of the forest.

They eventually foun him but I just thought it was odd. I mean the kid walked behind a bush and boom he's transported to somewhere else. He couldn't even hear his sisters cries for him.

>>22777

>>22778

I agree anon. A lot of skeptics will try to chalk it up to be some animal or something which is understandable, I mean It's the damn woods, a lot can happen in the woods you could get lost, get attacked by an animal, eat some poisonous berries etc. but when NO evidence is found it kinda throws that theory out.

There's no blood, no shreds of clothing, no signs of a struggle, it can go on and on. None of those are found in these cases. In most of the cases people are out of sight for no more than a minute before they're gone.

>>22782

Interesting.

But if people from our plane/dimension/whatver can enter, that would mean people from there can enter our world too. I remember reading about people who seemed to came out of nowhere, confused, talking about places nobody heard before, with real money from places that didn't exist in our maps, with strange objects who didn't exist here. But of all the anomalies and strange phenomena out there, they seem to be the rarest to occur.

>>22790

I remember reading that carcasses of animals can disappear completely thanks to bacteria, and the state of the soil, the climate of the region, etc. But in the case of a human being, I think it should be more complex than "he just simply died, and some wolves ate his corpse". I don't know. I remember Paulides talking with Knapp and he said people behaved as if something possessed them to take out their clothes and run into the wild.

Another thing that calls my attention is that the missing person are never seen again, or at least show some effort to contact others for help, in case they were kidnapped or taken by someone. The whole thing befuddles my humble mind.

>>22791

I remember hearing about that on Coast to Coast Am, stories about people from, according to them, real places. These places weren't on our maps though. I remember a case where a man was taken in and he had a legit passport and everything but it was to some city that obviously didn't exist, at least not here.

>>22792

I assume the same thing would go for a human body, it'd just take longer depending on the condition. Clothes, shoes, etc are a different story though, that doesn't decompose, at least not shoes.

Well these people are missing, not necessarily kidnapped. David mentions it clearly that if there were any signs of a kidnapping the case wouldn't be in Missing 411. Even if there were the slightest indication of a kidnapping, it wouldn't be mentioned in the book.

>>22796

Now I want to listen to that interview again, does any anon know which one I'm talking about? It was a while ago so I can't remember much besides that part

>>>22792

so the obvious question is

what % is kids and what % adults

what % is experienced hikers what % is not

what % is groups at what is not

far easier to estimate whats going on if you know the size of the victim and his sex and his skill

>>22916

map of wetlands usa

i think its a match

>>22939

I didn't post that but I'm not sure, obviously David and his researchers know but to get that specific info like that you'd had to go through all the books and read each case one by one

>>22960

Op here the book is about cases in National parks and national forests, there are cases that weren't in a national park/forest but there are a good amount that were as well. Also i should mention the colored markings on that map are clusters of missing people not individual cases. A good point that David mentioned was how empty the middle of the map was, there are cases there but no clusters.

I'm sure you all remember that paramedic story in the forest.

With the stairs

They go up

Don't come down

/thread

>>22974

David has mentioned that in interviews as well, random sets of stairs being found in forests

>>22975

>>22974

Does anyone know anything about the phenomena? I have heard about it but not too much, i don't know specific stories or anything like that

>>22974

>>22975

??? Please tell us more.

>>22978

I'm not that anon, I just remember hearing David briefly speak on sets of stairs being found in rural areas

>>22736

That's the craziest shit about it.

Even if these kids get abducted by some really well organised group, how?? How so fucking coincidentally?

oh hey look bobby is just going behind that bush there 50 yards away to retrieve a ball

we've been here for days and not seen a single person other than us

oh look bobby hasn't returned

oh look there's no sign of bobby even being here

lmao

>>22777

I know this bro, I look for rational explanations and then come to these conclusions myself also.

No pieces of clothing, no scent (??), no footprints, no sound.

It's so bizarre.

>>16898

>also they should stop being faggots and put cell coverage in the mountains with their 400,000,000$ profits

They use the same excuse to push microchipping. Dog lost? Old and have high blood pressure and want the hospital to know about it the moment you get sick? Etc.

no thanks.

>>23038

Yeah it's definitely something thats hard to process. I mean i don't even have a theory on what it could be, i do however don't think one thing is to blame for all of these cases.

but yeah it is crazy dude, no signs of a struggle, no blood, no clothing. Dogs won't find a scent or refuse to search period. People being found in places searchers combed a hundred times over. It';s just crazy.

>>16898

It actually doesn't matter. In lots of the cases people go missing in areas that have cell coverage. Some of the deceased people that turn up again even have a charged cell phone, warm clothing and food in their backpacks.

http://missionquest.fpb.yuku.com/topic/4840#.Vt_3ALxRHIo

>>23682

https://notehub.org/01an7

the first two gifs

the 3rd is just an extra wtf

Has Paulides' ever done investigations in any of the national parks and forests of Texas and/or New Mexico? Just wondering.

>>23685

From what I've heard in the coast2coast interviews, Texas' staggering amount of missing cases would be a subject for an entire book (meaning he hasn't done shit there yet). Don't remember if I heard anything about NM.

>>22792

>But in the case of a human being, I think it should be more complex than…

Why though? Humans are animals just like anything else, it really could just be people getting lost in the woods, getting eaten by an animal, and then worms or fungi take care of the rest.

>>23685

Yes and yes, there are a few cases from NM and as far as Texas goes David said he could write a whole book about the state.

>>23689

I'm not that anon, but i think its just the way these people disappear. Seemingly out of no where, like i said in the first post

>It's the woods so no shit anything can happen, you can get attacked by an animal, eat some poisonous berries, even something like getting lost can get you killed in the wilderness.

Its the fact that these people are gone within the blink of an eye, they go ahead a few feet and poof they're gone and most of them are never found. No blood, no signs of a struggle, no drag marks, dogs won't find a scent or refuse to search period. In some cases the bodies were found in places that had been searched x number of times over, in really obvious places.

I think thats why there's a big interest in this topic, because they are genuinely odd cases. It's not just David nitpicking cases, cause you know skeptics are looking to debunk him at any time kek

>>23714

Op here That pic shows clusters of disappearances not individual cases, David has kept away from Texas because like I said (or him rather) he could write a whole book on the state. He has written about a few cases that happened in Texas though, later on I'll dive into the books and try to get a few cases for you.

>>23725

or the imgur http://imgur.com/a/GbjmU

>>23719

>later on I'll dive into the books and try to get a few cases for you.

Please do, it would be much appreciated.

>>16913

Earlier than that and across the globe too

>>22736

360 degree cameras are pretty cheap now and could be fitted to a hat or helmet with a live feed maybe?

>>22769

They would scream, dude

>>22792

Reminds me of the wendigo haha

>>23051

Like that old lady who was a veteran hiker, who mapped the trail with her husband who was meeting her at the end, who ended up being found miles away from the trail, found by a ground surveying team in the middle of a max security Navy installation where they train soldiers evasive and tracking methods. She had every supply needed to survive and was completely out of character for her to stray from the trail. I may have it wrong but I think they only found a few small bones and a skullcap?

>>23703

Which makes it seem like they have gone up or have been elevated somehow, would explain the scent ceasing

>>24273

>"…and was completely out of character for her to stray from the trail."

To be completely honest, it would be completely out of character for anyone to have strayed from a trail, and I think this kind of wording hurts the chances of these cases attracting more attention, since that same wording lends it a kind of cliched and nutty tone.

>>24278

Going 'off piste' is pretty common but this woman had stated explicitly her route and time of arrival before she left.

Do you have anything useful to add or are you just going to whinge like a bitch about your irrelevant opinion[irrelevant to the topic]?

>>22789

What was his medical history?

I'm going to say some kind of government agency branch project.

>Intelligence agency creates a project that receives funding and operates autonomously

>agents in charge of project are given training on local law enforcement methods, so they can operate without being detected

>kidnap people, and use them for either testing I doubt though, or more likely as some kind of commodity/asset

What if this was like some sort of network of killers? For instance, lets say that all these killers started to team up with each other. If they stagger their kidnappings at random times (even if they pull victims from repeat locations), it would seem to investigators that there was some unexplained phenomena at work here.

>>24358

Fuck man, who knows… its possible.

I just don't know how they would get people to vanish in groups without a sound and also have no scent/trail to track. It seems like they somehow go… up???[silently]

There are so many unanswered questions, every time somebody thinks up a solution, ol' Paulides reveals details that nullify it.

He must have some restless nights

>>24358

>>24408

Personally i don't think thats plausible, considering how far back some cases go, how far apart some are. It just doesn't seem realistic, David has been asked about that and he doesn't believe it either.

I think everyone can agree thats its not just one "thing" thats taking or making these people disappear.

>>16972

I agree. Look at the Jimmy Saville case in England. He was a freemason as are the majority(!) of higher ranking police officials. There are multiple documentaries on YT that think his actions were covered by his mason buddies in the police.

Same goes for the Rotherham cases. No one can tell me that thousands of children can get raped and the police is just looking away.

Op here i'm suprised this isn't all the way at the bottom of the catalog yet, anyways have yall heard of the Henry McCabe case ? The whole thing happened at the end of last year so its fairly recent, this case got ton's of attention because of the voicemail he left on his wifes phone (vid related has a small snippet of the voicemall)

Henry McCabe - 32 years old- (vid related) Henry was a Minnesota Revenue Department employee. On September 6th 2015, 32 year old Henry was out at a club with his friend Kennedy and another guy. During the course of the evening Henry had several drinks, Kennedy told police the other friend took McCabe’s wallet in an effort to stop him from buying more drinks because he was “very intoxicated". Henry and a different friend were heading home when Henry supposedly convinced his friend to drop him off at a Fridley gas station at around 2am (though no CCTV footage was found of Henry at any area gas station to confirm this). That was the last time he would be seen alive.

McCabe’s phone pings from the night he disappeared placed him in Spring Lake Park and Fridley, according to police. The last ping — about the time his wife said she got a call — came from a tower in New Brighton. At about 2:30am a voicemail from Henry was left on his wife’s phone. Henry could be heard screaming in terror and groaning in pain, and a guttural growling and a voice saying “stop it” were also audible. Some of the call can be heard in the video embedded.

A subsequent search for Henry would reveal nothing until 2 months later, when a kayaker found his body in Rush Lake, about 7 miles from Fridley and consistent with the location of his last cell phone ping. His cause of death was ruled to be “probable drowning” despite the bizarre voicemail. There were no signs of trauma to his body. How he got 7 miles away while severely intoxicated to ultimately drown in a lake was never considered.

I just read the words attributed to the mother of the boy who got into the gorilla exhibit at the Cincinnati Zoo: “He was right here! I took a pic and his hand was in my back pocket and then gone!” That reminded me of the Paulides collection of cases. Apparently the boy disappeared by crawling thru bushes, then dropped down a 15' ledge into a moat. Transpose the scene to one where the gorilla has unlimited free movement on the other side of the moat, and the boy could've disappeared permanently.

>>22662

Once you've done every fetish, the hole goes deeper.

>>24563

>I DINDU NUFFIN, JUS TOOK A PICSHUR N THE LIL NIGGA WAS GUN INNA MOMEN

That's just black parenting

>>18494

>>18588

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE VIDEOS

>>24639

They obviously got taken down, Coast To Coast AM usually cracks down hard on people putting their broadcasts UP on YouTube

>>24663

>Coast To Coast AM usually cracks down hard on people putting their broadcasts UP on YouTube

Damn Space Ghost!

>>24689

Yeah this subject is really popular though so you can find all of those interviews on youtube, heres a fairly recent one. There are quite a few and they're definitely a great listen if you're into the topic

>>24491

I wish we had the full two minutes of audio without the broadcast bla bla.

Also noteworthy, tho he was found after two months, his body didn't have the decay of two months in the water. Looked more than two or three weeks. Where was he the other four or five weeks?

>>24716

Yeah i know from what i understand the case is still open so they can't exactly release the full audio yet.

Also thats a great question, to be honest i haven't looked too too much into the case, really the audio is what got me. Thats a good point though,

There was a dude on Reddit that had a bunch of these stories.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCZ4hwnviLk

>>25369

so people in government kidnap and consume people for the purpose of gaining telepathic abilities basically?

Op here, have any of yall listened to the most recent interview David Paulides did on Coast to Coast Am? Its one of the best he has done in a while, this particular time he's focusing specifically on hunters who have gone missing.

Which adds a bit to the chill factor because hunters are our most experienced outdoors men, who are obviously armed as well.

>>25901

The "predator" story really caught my interest, to make it short apparently this female hunter was out in the wilderness when the woods suddenly went quiet. No birds chirpin, no rustling of trees, nothing. If you have listened to Paulides previous interviews on C2C you'll remember when he told his own personal experience of being in the woods when all of a sudden everything went completely silent.'

Anyway according to her after the woods went silent she noticed something in the one of the trees about 50 feet away from her. At first she thought it was something in her eye because it looked distorted/blurry. Despite the thing not being that far from her she couldn't make out any specific shape, she said it was a huge blur and was completely terrified.

After a while the thing started darting from one tree to another, getting further away until it was eventually out of her sight. After that she said the sounds of the forest came back to life and she immediately ran out of the trail to her car.

The interview describes it better but what do you all think? They are calling it the"predator" story because of that one scene in the film where Predator is in the trees and has on active camo so they can't really make out what it is.

>>25901

new interview? aww yeah boi rev up those spooks

>>25941

Yeah and its actually pretty fucking good, to be honest the past couple of interviews have been a bit stale. They basically tell the same ol same ol. But this one has been one of th best interviews in a while

>>26013

Oh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttt thats actually pretty fucking good thinking anon i completely forgot about that scene in V/H/S, very interesting, good shit anon!

It's always been noted of people suddenly disappearing since ancient times. No, the didn't travel through time and no nothing really paranormal is happening. The bibles notes that 144,000 will be "saved" or better put "taken". The Jews thought that only they would be saved. That's not the case. Anyone can be saved, up until the number is reached. Maybe it's higher, or near boundless. 144 is a coherent number. A good number. It could be 296,000.

I'm curious about people who have gone missing and lived. I wonder how many heard a voice calling to them.

When I was a teenager living in the country I had a weird incident.

>15

>gathering wood near a big field

>I hear my mother calling out to me

>sounds distressed

>I ask what is wrong

>start thinking to get help

>her voice becomes angry

>"get your ass here right now!"

>so I'm pissed

>about to walk into the field

>notice the car isn't there

>parents had been gone all day

I just thought I had a crazy moment, but I remember her voice. As I have gotten older I think there was something weird. Whatever was calling me knew enough to try to piss me off. Knew that I would walk into that field if I was angry.

>>25902

where can i look at the picture? That question is whether the the distortion of light is being caused by technology or some kind biological/physiological part of the creature that is affecting/influencing the vision/perception of the individuals? Thats the question that i have about this said creature. is whether this thing is influencing perception or bending light.

>>25902

the other thing is why take/harvest humans? that could lead into what are skin walkers? could they be the kidnapped people who have been turned into meat puppets of whatever is hiding behind this distortion? I mean it makes sense right take children and turn them into what ever humanoid creature you need aka skin walker because skin walkers are oddly human and then they use skin walkers to accomplish things to risky for them to accomplish. and this makes me thing of another stories theres a good screen cap of it but basically some kid is spending time with his red neck family in the mountains it starts raining really hard and his cousin is burred in the back yard and his red neck family is worried about him being washed out of his shallow gravel. then some kind of weird creature (from the description i would say centaur like but white and spider legs) comes and starts pawing/digging up the body and the thing basically makes off with the cousins dead body. Now why take it? the creature must find the body valuable. which would indicate that there is a purpose for the body. which i think applies in these missing persons cases. what ever is taking them is taking them for a reason. and they repurpose these people for something else.

>>26078

thank you yea thats not what i was thinking when they were describing the event but hey maybe the camera can penetrate said blur

>>26079

Yeah theway they were describing it I thought they actually caught the thing on camera

And shit that could be possibe good thinking anon

There must be something in those forests…

>>25901

>>25902

>>25941

>>26087

same shit in thailand 2012

4-5 hunters went missing one day in the woods ( south thai )

they had rifles ( i assume maybe bows or spears )

… all found dead, hacked to pieces

they blamed it on muslim terror (of which there are few, but 1mill thailand is muslim and peaceful?)

wtf. how could a 1-few muslims sneak up on armed hunters, and stab them all to death, without losing a single person. and why mutilate them.

also no way to explain this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsyBtm5g52M

…

there was also the 25 skinned/defleshed bodies found in hung on trees in nepal but the corpses were ooold, 1850ish.

4plebs archive has links

>>26113

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmFBSltayg0

>>26115

>>26114

>>26113

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwUYXzjxZH8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVZIs2p2CZk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWgUJ4DKOgQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MHYdMooxlE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAW_o2Ryzug

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJUC2GkItSg

look anon im a believer as much as the next guy on here but every single one of those videos are full of shit. Watched every one.

Now as far as the "predator" story goes i think we're dealing with a sort of isolated incident here, in the sense that i don't think this thing is the reason all of these folk are disappearing.

>>26117

shrug, i didnt make em just links

1973 (allegedly) (before cgi) stabilized new jersey alien

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWu3f6lDfrc

poland tunnel creature

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUpVnxsErvA

>>22769

Place I grew up in man was a bum little property in Texas. There was a cattle ranch to our west, horse breeder to our south and chicken farm to the northeast. You better believe we had coyotes. They're loud as hell and messy as fuck. We always knew when they had caught a chicken or one of our cats. Animals don't even eat the whole thing half the time, they gotta eat what they do and get on out before something else shows up like people. Only thing that would silently kill someone and drag em off would be a cougar, but those things stalk their prey for hours and never take risks.

>>26077

> theres a good screen cap of it but basically some kid is spending time with his red neck family in the mountains it starts raining really hard and his cousin is burred in the back yard and his red neck family is worried about him being washed out of his shallow gravel. then some kind of weird creature (from the description i would say centaur like but white and spider legs) comes

I remember that, does anyone have it by chance

>>26078

It's a face. I downloaded the pic and messed around with the brightness, contrast, etc. You can clearly see the profile of the eyebrow ridge and the cheek into the chin. Also, you can see an eye almost.

>>26220

Upload the image of the edited photo?

>>26013

I enjoyed V/H/S. The sequel wasn't very good, in my opinion, though.

>>26218

i dont know if the exact story is in this https://8ch.net/k/res/373605.html

thread. Mostly because I dont feel like click on every screen cap and skimming each on for the story. But there is a ton of screen capped stories in that thread so theres a good chance its in there

>Old people go missing

>So do Kids

Isn't this the most likely group of people to go missing under ANY situation? This seems exaggerated.

>>27068

>This seems exaggerated.

yeah thats the whole reason its become such a thing, disappearances in the wilderness isn't exactly some new revelation

its the circumstances in which these people disappear

>>27068

but the disappearances are reoccurring and fit a profile. thats the difference and all the disappearances aren't out in the middle of no where

>>27079

Some are, some arent. What is remarkable is the factors surrounding the disappearance. Listen to the coast to coast with the author of missing 411. It is a gem. I dont have the link, but it is on yt

>>21583

Hot damn, this all is makign sense the more I start looking into it. I always thought that the child prostitution rings was fake, I feel dumb.

>>27553

yeah the Johnny Gosch case is just plain fucked up. Though I should mention that case has nothing to do with Missing 411, I just mentioned it because its a fucked up case

A couple of more boys from Des Moines (city Johnny was from) went missing as well, one was a paperboy like Johnny and he went missing in the same neighborhood.

>People are disappearing in strange ways, what are your opinions?

It is very obvious that there is corruption and agents who are criminals trying to hide the truth

>>27853

All of the threads on this board are old. What counts as necro bumping here is different than on faster boards and this is a pretty good thread anyway.

>>27854

Yes, that's obvious, But what do you think the truth entails? How messed up do you think it is for them to put so much effort in hiding it?

>>27853

Someone brought this up on /b/ a week or two ago and it definitely seems like a possibility

I remember when The Finders were a popular topic on /x/, I didn't really think to put the two together

>>27856

"X" place earns so much money for tourism

Ok…Let's pretend nobody ever died here and nothing ever happened.

Now, speaking of disappearances in natural parks I think there are certain "entities" which make certain disappearances more likely than others

>>22976

>>22974

>>22975

https://www.reddit.com/r/nosleep/comments/3iex1h/im_a_search_and_rescue_officer_for_the_us_forest/

>This is the last one I'll tell, and it's probably the weirdest story I have. Now, I don't know if this is true in every SAR unit, but in mine, it's sort of an unspoken, regular thing we run into. You can try asking about it with other SAR officers, but even if they know what you're talking about, they probably won't say anything about it. We've been told not to talk about it by our superiors, and at this point we've all gotten so used to it that it doesn't even seem weird anymore. On just about every case where we're really far into the wilderness, I'm talking 30 or 40 miles, at some point we'll find a staircase in the middle of the woods. It's almost like if you took the stairs in your house, cut them out, and put them in the forest. I asked about it the first time I saw some, and the other officer just told me not to worry about it, that it was normal. Everyone I asked said the same thing. I wanted to go check them out, but I was told, very emphatically, that I should never go near any of them. I just sort of ignore them now when I run into them because it happens so frequently.

>>29680

Have you contacted David Paulides to tell him about Chase Martens's case? It sounds like something he might be interested in.

By the way, I don't have his other Missing 411 books, but on http://gen.lib.rus.ec/ you can find some of his other books, "Smoky Mountain Mysteries", "The Hoopa Project: Bigfoot Encounters in California", "Tribal Bigfoot" and "Unsolved Disappearances in the Great Smoky Mountains". I would upload them here but they're all over 12 mb.

>>16898

Cell phones with GPS are a recent phenomena, only since the 2000's.

There's jack-diddly-shit for cell phone reception in the middle of nowhere. You don't install an expensive cell repeater in the middle of nowhere unless it's going to make you money. In many of these places, like national parks, it's illegal to build them there because of environmental laws.

Not everyone takes a cell phone innawoods, especially children who may not have a phone of their own in the first place.

If your phone is turned off (to save the battery while you're out of service), it doesn't do shit to help you track it.

Sometimes people are idiots and wander around lost. If people are dumb enough to die of thirst in the desert with water still in their canteens, it's not inconceivable for them to die in the woods with food and a cell phone. People are fucking dumb, especially when they're confused/panicked.

Cell phone jammers are $20 online and readily available, even though they're illegal.

It might take days before anyone realizes someone is missing. If Fred goes camping over a three day weekend and gets kidnapped by Sasquatch on Friday, nobody is going to notice he's gone and start trying to find him until he fails to come back home Sunday night or doesn't show up for work on Monday. Maybe even longer, since not showing up for work doesn't make your employer suspect you've been kidnapped/gotten lost innawoods, it makes him think you're hung over from the weekend or just a lazy asshole.

You've never wanted to get away from it all before? Fuck, I tried to do this myself after months of training and preparation, only to be found anyway by the police because my parents lied about my age when they put out the search request.

Does anyone have any short video's talking about certain cases?

>>32577

Most of them have been taken off of YouTube due to copyright, though some remain up

This one is about the case of missing Dennis Martin (argueably the most known case from the books)

>>32578

That's actually the first one I saw but never got more.

>>32582

Then you've probably see the ones they have on the CanAm Missing channel on YouTube

They're short videos on certain cases (longest vid is 15 mins) in which David Paulides goes to the actual spot where the person disappeared. He does a good job of showing the topography of the place, it really gives you more insight on the cases since you can see the actual locations

>>32611

I hadn't heard about the rubrics cube before. I wonder if it was Jared's.

>>16861

aside from serial killers and sex slave markets, people disappearing in even moderate wilderness can be partially explained by wildlife. believe it or not, the weirdest feeling you get in the wild is knowing that you are NOT at the top of the food chain anymore, and many animals do bury their kills (Bears love rotting meat far more than fresh). Then are fungi that are actually quite large and considered the largest living creatures on Earth, much bigger than blue whales, that live completely underground. It is feasible, that in a large wilderness area, there would be spots of loose soil where a person would slip down and be engulfed by a fungus, and since most fungi exude extremely poisonous and hallucinogenic compounds, the person would expire rather quickly and simply be entirely absorbed by the fungi.

Even the X-files did an episode about that, although most fungi would also break down the bones, so that part wasn't realistic. so basically, there are far more predatory reasons for people to disappear completely. Not saying that some aliens might not be responsible, just laying out the odds.

Bet you want to rethink that camping trip now, huh?

>>32650

The strange thing about the missing 411 cases isn't that the fact the people go missing, it's how and where it happens. If they are found, alive or otherwise, they are missing clothing, usually shoes. If they are dead, their body is usually in a place searchers looked in dozens of times. Also, their body clothes aren't nearly of decomposed as they should be. If they are found alive, they never remember anything about what happened or are too young to describe what happened. Children are also often found in places that is would be impossible for them to get to, especially without shoes.

>>32650

Well the thing about these specific cases is that they don't fall within the boundaries of your usual disappearance in the woods

I mean it's the woods, one of the fucking easiest places to accidently die, that being said the cases have all been chosen for the fact that they aren't in the realm of your normal missing persons case

>>25902

Maybe some government black ops spooks with reverse engineered alien technologies using them to kidnap people to test shit on them, sell them into pedophile/human trafficking rings, or just training, like war games with live prey

>>32135

>>29673

Poster at >>29670 is correct regarding the Search & Rescue Officer stories. They're a riveting read but totally fictional. The fact that they appeared on /NoSleep should have made that fact plain immediately but further verification can be found to the left.

Remember to check your facts, people! These cases are fascinating because they are so baffling but getting mixed up in fiction is bound to bring only the wrong kind of attention.

>no people go missing in the anti-/out/ belts

David Icke

that's what you get oir fucking with goatman

>>32913

I want to believe ;_;

>>16862

Maybe, you got to think he could be just depressed though, listening to this shit really weighs down on me even, can’t imagine being the guy in charge of saving everyone and realizing it’s hopeless.

It’s probably a conspiracy, but is the conspiracy them trying not to cause mass panic by revealing how easy a target national parks are for killers the conspiracy, or something more sinister?

>>35456

you can't really think about this too hard without going into two options

non-supernatural

* it's a group doing it, may or may have government connections

supernatural

* could be anything from aliens to demons to bigfoot, but it is in the woods, almost globally

>>35456

>>35457

It's probably something supernatural because humans couldn't do what these creatures do. The government probably knows something about them but doesn't know how to deal with them, so they're afraid of looking weak/incompetent. It's like with UFOs. It must be pretty hard for the military to admit that aliens can fly over their bases and they can't stop them.

>>29673

This needs its own thread. Fascinating subject also the sunken 17th century houses around the world is a creepy one too in a similar vain

>>35493

Sunken 17th century houses? Never heard of that. Tell me more.

>>35494

Sorry buddy but bullets are useless against spooks.

>>35504

I'm exactly sure if it's 17th or 18th century but a lot of old buildings have their first floor completely buried. I have a lot in my hometown but they seem to be around the world. Here's a Reddit thread that gives a gestalt. (Sorry for Reddit not much info on the subject) Also this video in the first 10minutes gives the outline of the mystery. He thinks it ties in the phantom time hypothesis which is another rabbit hole.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AlternativeHistory/comments/5wlizq/buried/

https://xp.reddit.com/r/AlternativeHistory/comments/6csz4r/buried_part_2/

>>35504

Why would I shoot ghosts? Wouldn't it make more sense to Microwave Ghosts?

>>18703

>>18705

Isn't it in the /x/ library?

>>21241

A lot of questions like yours are easy to answer with this point to always remember

1.There are cases with No Evidence , Zero

2.Some people go to the parks armed and would fight fort their lives , math would lead you to believe on of the attackers would be found dead at some point , Never happened

3.Some bodies or people are find in places that were previously checked , even few times over

Even the CIAniggers aren't this good at their job

Just watched the missing 411 documentary. Not bad. Well made overall and worth the watch. The only thing I didn't like is that they spent so much time on one case (Deorr Kunz). Would have been better with more cases. You can find the movie on piratebay btw.

Remember the theme about large rocks, stones, and boulders. Native American mythology and Norse mythology have tales of rock-dwelling creatures. South Americans believed in the rocks too.

mother mothers

new video about alaskan missing people

>>22675

No, at least not the majority. Many of the Native women here in Canada are low-grade prostitutes with no survival instincts whatsoever. They'll jump into anybody's car at the promise of drugs, and offer up sex at the drop of a hat. A couple of serial killers, plus a lot of opportunistic murderers (the sort of degenerate who'd only fantasize, until an opportunity throws itself in their lap), explains that number, as sad as it is.

>>29673

Are these stairs all from america? That stone arch stair is totally insane unless it is a hundred year old art project.

>>24269

What is your source for the high levels of ghb claim?

>>25902

That predator thing appeared at the haunted raunch in Utah. It seems that they are assholes - or not. Sometimes these creatures seem to respond to the unconscious desires of people and Tom appears to be somewhat of an asshole who does not like visitors. The predator-creature could be carrying out Toms unthought wish that visitors should fuck off and grant him his wish by scaring the shit out of the blonde man. Supernatural apparitions in Europe does not appear to be hostile as often as those in America. Perhaps americans are more disharmonic than europeans.

"By the end of June 1996, stories and rumors had begun circulating about weird events taking place at a remote ranch in northeastern Utah. Tom groaned. It was only a matter of time before the media got involved and the family’s much-prized privacy would be history. One day shortly afterward, as if to confirm their fears, Tom and his son Tad watched a vehicle drive slowly from the entrance gate all the way down to the homestead. As the bouncing vehicle approached, Tom could see a large, blond-haired man at the wheel. Hiding his annoyance, Tom nodded as the stranger dismounted from the vehicle. The guy was broad shouldered and over six foot two. It did not take him long to dispose of the pleasantries. The stranger explained that he had learned about the bizarre events on the property “on the grapevine” and had driven a long distance to visit. Tom interrupted to reiterate that this was private property and that neither he nor his family were interested in developing the land as a tourist attraction. The stranger was insistent, even pleading. All he wanted to do, he explained, was to go onto the property and meditate. Tom could see his son grinning to himself, and eventually, half in amusement at the bizarre request, Tom relented.

The three of them piled into Tom’s diesel truck and headed down into the ranch. After about a mile, the stranger announced that he would like to meditate here, near a small pasture surrounded by trees. The stranger walked into the middle of the open ground, about a hundred yards from the tree line. Tom walked with him a short distance and then stood watching. He glanced back at his still grinning son who had elected to stay by the truck. Tom was about thirty yards from the stranger, who had closed his eyes and, in a faintly religious gesture, had spread both his arms out. Tom was amused.

Silence reigned and the late afternoon sun cast a beautiful light on the scene, this tall blond man standing silently in the middle of the pasture with his eyes closed and his arms raised, much like the pose struck by saints and angels in religious paintings. In the distance Tom heard the sudden chime of a cowbell. He was puzzled. None of his animals had cowbells. The sound seemed to be coming from deep within the trees. There it was again, nearer this time. The stranger seemed not to have heard it. Tad made a gesture of puzzlement. Tom looked at the trees and thought he could see a faint blur. Something was moving very quickly between the trees. Tom could not make out the shape, but he knew it was big. Was that the source of the cowbell sound? He watched carefully as the shape moved like a fast blur from tree to tree. It was almost as if it was circling. Tom suddenly felt uneasy."

>>37323

"Without warning, something broke from the tree line and moved swiftly toward the meditating man. Tom blinked. He still couldn’t see what it was even though it was broad daylight. It was blurred as if it was hidden in the middle of heat distortion, and it was covering ground at enormous speed. Gorman realized that this chimera was making a beeline for the blissful meditator, who was completely unaware of what was rapidly bearing down on him. Tom was about to yell a warning, but it was too late. The shimmering wraithlike huge “thing” had stopped just inches from the meditator as it let out a deep-throated animal roar that echoed around the ranch. The roar sounded half like a bear, half like a lion. Tom froze.

The stranger leaped back about ten feet and fell down. He began screaming. As fast as it had approached, the shimmering, almost invisible “creature” departed for the tree line at top speed. Tom’s sharp eyes could make out only a blur of dancing, flickering, wavy lines, like pixilated blocks. Within seconds, the creature had vanished into the trees.

The visitor was on the ground, still screaming hysterically, and Tom hurried over to make sure he had not been injured. Suddenly, the stranger jumped up and threw his arms around Tom, weeping like a baby. He was obviously out of his mind with fear. Tom struggled to extricate himself, but the guy was big and he was possessed of a strength borne of blind panic. He simply would not let go. After a few minutes, Tom said quietly, “If you do not let go, I am going to hit you.”

“I will let go, if you promise to get me to my vehicle,” the stranger babbled. His ruddy face had turned chalk white and it was obvious he felt the fear of God. Slowly, with the man still hanging on to him, Tom made his way to the truck. His son started the engine and Tom, with his cargo of blubbering humanity, climbed into the back seat. The stranger swore that this property was cursed and that he would never set foot on it again. Of that, Tom was thankful.

They watched as the stranger drove erratically toward the gate. He was driving dangerously fast on the rutted track and Tom hoped he would slow down once he got on the country road. Tad was still shaken. That roar had penetrated to the very core of their being. It was like being shot with a bullet.

Some time later, as Tom and Tad were watching the movie Predator, in which Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jesse Ventura battle an alien life-form in a jungle in Central America, they let out a loud yell when they first saw the shimmering creature. “That’s what we saw,” they yelled in unison to the astonished family. The predator in the movie seemed to exactly encapsulate the degree of camouflage of what they had seen. Tom calculated that the thing they saw was moving at between fifty and sixty miles per hour when it broke cover from the trees.

Again Tom wondered if his ranch had become a testing ground for advanced military equipment. Now suddenly the list had expanded beyond high-tech aircraft and surgical derring-do to advanced camouflage technology. But why would some kind of super tech advanced vehicle emit a roar? Was it possible that a creature could have advanced camouflage capabilities? Like a chameleon taken to the next level? Tom refused to dwell too deeply on what that creature might do if it decided to harm his family."

Anyone got a collection of PDFs for Missing411?

>>38096

$100 shipping

You should browse around for other sellers first. There has to be a better option.

>>38098

He's sells the books only directly over his website. There are no other sellers.

>>38096

>>38117

found some with free Shipping within the USA

https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?cm_sp=SearchF-_-topnav-_-Results&sts=t&tn=missing+411

What does Paulides think is behind missing 411? Bigfoot, fairies, ufos, human sacrifice cults?

>>38984

As far as I know, he's never offered any explanation for the mysterious disappearances. One story featured a possible Bigfoot that was seen carrying a child. Another was about a girl who got lost in the woods and was rescued by a big talking wolf. A common theme is the presence of bad weather immediately following the disappearances. Keep in mind that Bigfoot itself is considered by some to be a supernatural creature (with psychic powers).

>>38989

He doesn't, he simply is just providing the facts.

>>38989

Has he ever hinted at what he thinks it is?

>>39004

I don't think so, but he has written a couple of books about Bigfoot, so we know at least he probably considers it a possibility.

>>39004

OP here, he has never hinted at what he might think it is simply because it would take away from the most important part of the books and that is the cases themselves. He feels if he mentions or even hints at what he think it might be it might damage the integrity of the books. It really wouldn't do any good considering the fact he has written books on Bigfoot, not to mention there are obviously people out there who think it might be all kinds of weird shit that is making these happen. Whatever is it i don't think its one thing thats making these people disappear simply because some of these cases date back to the 1800's.

>>26078

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQhRaaLvAxg

A good breakdown of why this pic is probably very mundane.

>>41930

Actually, though I'm positive to Paulides, I was keeping an eye on the Lam case when it originally happened. That quora commentator is being overly critical.

There's no footage of Lam getting up there, or even getting to the fire escape exit in the first place, it was always thought the Lam case was an inside job because she essentially bypassed most of the security cameras to get up there in the first place. Or even worse, that day the cameras were down, which is quite suspicious.

>UH, sure there was no security, but the fire alarm had no security anyway…

Uh, isn't this a bit alarming? Why would this area be completed locked down, but easily accessible through the fire escape?

In the BrainScratch video the quora guy links, there's also plenty of discussion of foul play and shit with the cameras.

In any case, Paulides is probably more entertainer than investigator, but this is a guy who chases Bigfoot, expecting expert investigating here makes the quora guy look silly.

>>41930

That hectorabaya guy sounds like a larping faggot. He's also a good example how to manipulate people. First he claims authority - muh SAR, I have been on some of the mentioned rescues (without nameing which one) - and then makes eloquent and long winded posts implying he has really anything to say. But if you read his arguements carefully they are nothing but common sense. There is no expert knowledge or technicalities. "Weather changes in the mountains quickly, it was likely a crime and they hid the body, found in a previously searched area? mapping error or perhaps they forgot…" Nothing but hot air. But people eat this shit up. So many comments "oh thank you for your glorious and wise post" it's fucking disgusting.

Now I do think Paulides is tweaking this shit to make it more mysterious. Ofc he wants to sell his books. Also some cases aren't really researched. They are just summed up newspaper reports. But if you read the books it's the huge ammount of cases that make the point. Even if you throw out 80% of them there is still a huge number of strange cases that make you scratch your head.

>>41943

>Interesting. If it's not "paranormal", but it's also not something more mundane like her mental illness

It's a run-down hotel in Skid Row. It was (and is) a dump, full of employees who don't give a shit and management who don't give a shit. Shit like cameras don't work, employees can't be arsed to lock doors that should be locked. Sure, they said later that they were "sure" the doors were locked or whatever, but that's just a "CYA" type answer. You can read the reviews for yourself, the place is a dump.

She was also off of her meds, it's in her autopsy report. Why was she acting weird? Because she was mentally ill and quit taking her meds. Why did she stop taking them? I guess that's about the only mysterious question left unanswered, but it could be any number of reasons.

Could there be foul play involved? Sure. But you have to look at the simplest explination first and decide if that's unbelievable. She was mentally ill and prescribed several different medications. She had stopped taking them at some point shortly before her death. She had the ability to get up to where her body was found, and there was no trauma evident on the body to indicate she was attacked or put there against her will.

>>41975

It will likely be uploaded to YouTube soon.

Speaking of YouTube and parks though, I found this channel a while ago that has a few videos on invisible creatures to keep you entertained in the meantime. They're pretty cool but he hasn't uploaded about this subject for a some time now unfortunately.

>>41936

As someone who is mostly agnostic about the Missing 411 stuff: Reddit is where manboobed big brained centrists go to get their IFLS! worldview validated, so of course they applaud this EPIC TAKEDOWN of HACKFRAUD Paulides BRA. It comes with the territory.

Seriously look at the demographics of reddit, they screw so much male/urbanite/liberal-progressive/colleg student its not funny

2 theories

aliens incarnated on earth being taken home to get them out of the clutches of the evil that runs this planet

the "eye"

or the eye itself preying on vulnerable people

i find it odd that a very large amount have autism…

>>37321

not to shit on anyone but in the late 19th/early 20th century, it was quite popular to create fake ruins in woods surrounding manors and homes. At least its quite common in the UK, loads of large manors and homes built fake ruins in the surrounding woodlands for style or aesthetics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folly

Demons live in the forest and the government kikes are in cahoots with them.