/v/ - Video Games

Crash? No.

Coincidentally timed pulling out of the industry to make room for a forced takeover by Tencent? You bet your sweet ass.

>>16715557

>so do they crash

Nah, they've already hooked a generation into the habit. Now they are on battered wife syndrome. All they need to do is put a modicum of extra effort and into their next game and the majority of their audience will say "They're back this time, guys!"

The industry is going to inevitably revert to pre2004 state.

It's already been happening.

You have too much faith in consumercattle. I doubt anything will change. Those games were simply terrible or had godawful pr before launch. Lesbians of us and that new Avengers game will sell gangbusters, as did Spiderman and nuGod of War.

AA games make way more money these days. Word of mouth marketing is cheap so you just have to make the game good.

>>16715660

>profits

>posts revenue

Why are shills so illiterate?

>>16715662

Considering it costs peanuts to keep those F2P games up once they're made, it might as well be profits.

>>16715662

Alright, but revenue would be higher for those shitty free to play games surely. None of them are high cost AAA games.

You people are fucking retarded.

>>16715557

>how does an industry backed with black money for the sole purpose of pushing jewish propaganda survive when it doesn't have to make any profits at all

It is a mystery. Fuck off.

>>16715682

Great argument. Way to prove your claim.

>>16715557

Games are going to shift focus towards china, thats all.

The chinese have no problems paying to win.

Companies won't be limited to cosmetic only microtransactions anymore.

>>16715602

pretty sure that already happened a long time ago

battle.net posts to people's facebook feeds already

>>16715557

>What do you think happens to western AAA publishers in the near future?

They will double down on their nonsense.

>>16715658

>>16715712

Haven't kept up since the ps3 came out. I was aware of the minor social integration but it's about to get cranked up to 11.

I think AAA is headed towards a collapse within the next 5 years. Their alternative is to shift to develop strictly mobile games. I can't see them continuing down this road when their business model revolves around constant growth.

>>16715569

Alright, I'll meme this

Creating videogames, even personally, will get outlawed in the next 10 years. Because of the risk of hate speech and "training right wing terrorists", it will become a controlled substance, like drugs. And it will be lobbied by Tencent.

>>16715776

>got a whole generation to be okay with micro transactions

Yesterday at Walmart, I overheard a mom and her 10 year old kid buying a 2DS. She couldn't decide between that or a 2DS XL for an extra $60 bucks. It was for a fucking 90 minute car ride.

The kid was indecisive and he didn't really care, because he said he'd rather watch people play games on Youtube

>>16715557

>It's dead

It doesn't matter if it's dead because those games (with maybe the exception of Anthem) have made a profit before they died. Do you know how many people bought Fallout 76 on Bethesda's no-refunds launcher? The goal of AAA is not for these games to live long lives. That's the old model, where the longer a game is alive the more likely someone would be to buy a copy 2-3 years after launch thus sustaining profit. The new goal is for a game to get as many idiots as possible to buy the microtransactions before it dies so they can have a big number of this quarter's profits before the next game doing the exact same thing releases next quarter.

>>16715557

They make it no sweat, they have cash reserves and stupid investors at the ready. Once CEOs start getting installed to clean house and rid the sjws crowd connecting the dots between woke and going broke, they will turn things around. It takes years though.

>>16715790

Anon almost all of these games are no profitable because they sold. They are profitable because of after market purchases. Call of Duty Modern Warfare was sold at a loss because it cost more in marketing than production. But its season pass was bought by everyone, even second hand and after market purchases in greater quantities than they had firsthand unit sales. To say nothing of microtransactions. Its like how Apple and Amazon are both technically operating at a massive loss but theres so much aftermarket money coming in they don't have to care.

>>16715862

I wish he could contain his autism and just let people talk about video games for 1 week without deleting everything.

>>16715864

That's the blackpill spammer, newfag.

>>16715864

At least he's not made it a graveyard like /tg/. Yet.

>>16715771

>I can't see them continuing down this road when their business model revolves around constant growth.

That's basically every business though. You have to always keep growing to appease the (((shareholders))).

Oh, and even the normalfagsphere is pissed off at leftist propaganda.

Nufelstein The Two Dykes comes out in two days and there's no buzz around it.

>>16715868

>falling for the niggerpill

>>16715871

Yeah that's basically what's going to happen. That combined with the unionization shit should mean that we'll be losing some big names in the video game world, however at the same time it can also be a bonus considering the current state of things.

>>16715881

Even so, I think they'll still buy it.

>>16715889

The New Colossus flopped and this shit doubled down on the kike propaganda, it's a glorified expansion pack and has half the marketing.

It's going to flop hard

Normalniggers will keep buying Sims, FIFA and Cowadoody, but those barely sell compared to before and are getting their market share stolen by PUBG and Fortnite.

Mid sized companies successfully aped AAAshits.

>>16715899

Not New Colossus, I think that game will tank. I'm talking about the bigger names like Gears and Call of Duty. I think those games will sell decently due to normalfags.

>>16715904

Gears hasn't sold well since Judgement or whatever the fuck it was called and CoD peaked with Black Ops 2 and has never reached the same level of sales/profits even with all the DLC and microtrasnaction kikery.

The fact that they're using a new engine and using Modern Warfare again aka actually putting some effort into their yearly cashcow smells of desperation.

CoD is the new Halo, it's mainstream irrelevant right now and it's decade of fame is now gone.

New decade, new trends, new standards

>>16715916

>>16715924

True enough, seems like the Call of Duty crowd went to Fortnite in any case. That said I don't expect it to completely tank either, I could be wrong though.

>>16715934

>grown up around the franchise

>one game

>a franchise

>>16715943

Nah TLOU2 is gonna sell because they're going to bundle it with Playstation 5's. It's the same tactic they used with Soy of War, Spider-Man and Uncharted 4.

>>16715943

>Outlast 2

What do you mean?

The AAA industry won't crash, it'll just move to alternative means of monetizations and advertising. Look at what is happening to games, or has happened for like 10 years. 'Consumers' are also good goyim and will continue to buy things as long as there's some marketing trick with it.

>>16715881

Even Cr1TiKaL of all people made a video on the topic (he got the obvious "everything is political" as a response, because of course that's what would happen). For this guy to notice anything, it must have become very obvious.

>>16715776

Imagine if they crafted special achievements and made it possible to earn Monopoly currency by posting LGBTQPAJGDJSNSGBUETJH-positive messages in game chat.

>achievement unlocked: IRL woke (send ten messages supportive of the most marginalized diverse minorities of the day via the in-game chat system)

>achievement unlocked: hate stops here (you validated, blocked and reported accounts that our AI suspected were not comrades)

>>16715557

>does western AAA make it to 2021

Yes.

It won't crash, but hopefully they will scale things back to how they were a decade or so ago. Still Jewry, but a more palatable kind.

The interesting thing is how normalfags are starting to actually speak up against this stuff. The shills and fanboys used to shout down any dissent and they would follow the "consensus" but now that doesn't work as much. A lot of games and developers have felt the blowback from microtransactions and bad design. Fallout 4 and 76 should have been slam dunks, easy money and acclaim but 4 was met with a lukewarm response and 76 was crucified. Just to name a couple of examples. The hype train has finally lost passengers so those games suffered a lot of bad press. They are starting to have enough of it, they want games to be fun and good, not nickel and dimed and repetitive shit we've done before. Then of course we have all the propaganda and Marxism that pervades games on a scale never before seen. They're turning on this too and not just in video games, but everywhere.

>>16715569

And what do you know. I was right.

>>16716149

Reminder to report and not reply to blackpill fag

>>16715965

Outlast 2 ended with your wife dying and giving birth to the Anti-Christ, and it being implied the entire game was in you and the other characters' heads and it was all for nothing because everyone's still dead. Also it was overtly anti-Christian propaganda.

>>16716218

>making more money than ever

lol

Reminder to just report the IP-hopping niggerpill kike, don't bother giving him (You)s.

>>16716211

What pissed me off the most was that they had a huge pile of cash and could have made something similar to what RE7 did and instead they made another fucking walking sim.

>>16716218

>Making more money than ever

Reported for being a lying blackpill kike

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>>>/v/16716254

Oh hey the Activision pajeet is back.

>>16716262

Nobody is winning

Gaming will never be as good as 20 years ago.

Doesn't mean shit companies aren't cannibalizing themselves or that even normalcattle aren't aware of how bad the industry has gotten.

>>16716262

It's not 'different perspectives', it's a single IP-hopping kike shitting things up. Kill yourself.

>>16716218

Thing is, the big yearly release business strategy is starting to fail, and there is less and less space for successful franchises out there. With GaaS inevitably crashing and burning because of infrastructure, general greediness and straight up market oversaturation from month 1 I expect many hundreds of millions going down the drain. I don't think it's going to be a complete disaster and all of a sudden the gaming industry is dead, but more and more people are getting fed up and not buying games. At this point I don't think anything is certain.

>>16716157

I thought none of the characters in the capeshit game were based on their likenesses in the films.

>>16716290

In the same way DmC was Shakespearean, yes.

>>16716272

>a certain group is winning

The chinese? Because actual kike owned vidya companies are hurting bad.

It's getting so bad they're willing to risk being bought by the Mouse.

And even chink companies are hurting bad due to government regulation.

>>16716298

Yeah the chinese.

>And even chink companies are hurting bad due to government regulation.

not as badly as you want. Tencent is the biggest threat to the industry at large and there's no reason to believe they're slowing down. Shit, hey even have hollywood thoroughly compromised.

>>16715557

Chink crap gets more pushed as East tries to turn all normalfags into ant whales for their mobile monopoly. If a game gets big, Tencent will just buy the company and turn it into complete crap.

>>16716335

Chinks are an issue even outside entertainment.

>The crash is coming! For real this time, I swear!

Yes, I'm sure of it.

>>16715557

>the crash meme

The first one was only isolated to North America, not even Europe or South America.

>>16716473

>Which is why everything is turning into dumbed down grindy lootbox fests

HAS turned into it, and countries are going through the process of making them another facet of the gambling industry, removing their main market, children. Shit solved itself. After the case in Belgium, other countries will follow suit, assuming that hasn't already happened. The outrage coming from parents far outstripped the gambling community of battered mentality, since parents act as handlers of kids, they're going to easily see the issue.

The whales will still exist, but it will change. It may even be a massive change depending on how seriously they take it, because if these gambling companies, namely shit like Konami, do not prepare for the future, their entire business will get fucked hard.

>>16716473

>>16716506

fair enough

>>16716517

>>16716517

oh you know what i mean, the companies have pushed too hard with lootboxes, now they have to go back to the drawing board and find a different way to get whales and kids.

>>16715557

Video games are used to sedate the masses and transmit pro-government programming on a subliminal level. All western governments want video games to work for them, the way they do in China with social credit etc. Even if there is a financial crash imminent, western governments will pour billions of dollars into companies like EA to keep the propaganda machines running and to keep the citizens fat, lazy, and content as their freedoms are eroded away day by day. You live in a literal 1984 dystopia, don't even pretend that economics matter to anything or anyone, it's all fake now.

>>16716755

It's more like Brave New World actually. Retard.

>>16716755

>>16716848

i am convinced is a mix of both

>>16717158

And like in both books, there will never be any escape from the dystopia.

>1984 ended in the main character being tortured forced to love Big Brother because he fell for controlled opposition

>BNW ended in the one person not completely pozzed by the dystopia hanging himself because there is no escape

NO HOPE

>>16717224

>Hey Moderator person, can you set up a counter on how many times you've had to ban this blackpill guy?

Considering this fag is posting one post per one IP address, the number must be huge. The worst part is that this piece of shit might be responsible for VPN and proxies ban sooner or later, along with some other faggot link spammer.

Too bad this nigger can't be permabanned because this cockroach is not as dumb and can use proxies/VPN to trash the site instead of his real IP address, unless all the proxies or VPN posting was disabled permanently. But there must be another way to stop his diarrhea spreading across all the boards.

And you're wasting your time if you think he will listen. He's either getting paid or is mentally ill beyond repair. The only thing that can help this nigger is a bullet in his head or drug overdose that would kill him.

>>16716335

>Being surprised that hollywood (((California))) is compromised

Don't be retarded. California might have the near entirety of entertainment media wrapped around it's finger with union shit and industry blacklists, that doesn't mean it is anywhere near in touch with the western world.

>>16715602

sauce on that webm?

>>16716327

are you retarded?

>>16717452

> there must be another way to stop his diarrhea spreading across all the boards.

There is! its called "not replying to his posts and completely ignoring him".

the only reason he has been a thing for this long is because faggots like you still reply to him and turn the thread into "muh blackpill" instead of ignoring and staying on topic

>>16717545

that cuck jim sterling

>>16716407

So long as they move into those other avenues entirely, I'm fine. If Konami admitted they were going full casino machine manufacturer right now, I'd be fine with that. Slightly disappointed at the confirmation of no new Castlevanias ever, but what else is new? The thing that certain (((people))) always try to obfuscate is that there are really multiple markets at play here. Casinos are a different market than consoles, which are a different market than smartphones. They've gotten some crossover by blurring the lines, but their greed is making them move more and more toward the casino aspect, and they may take some customers, but they're leaving the console market and audience. They might think they're still in that market, but more and more of the audience isn't with them anymore, and is waiting for someone else to come and make games like the kinds they used to like. Hence the popularity of remakes, even though the remakes are usually worse than the original. At least they're games. If someone just made a full game again, and wasn't trying to jew the customers at every turn (both with microtransations and propaganda), they'd essentially be tapping into a currently untapped market.

>>16716450

>implying Europe or South America were/are actually significant markets.

lel

>>16716848

The part he's saying is like Brave New World. But don't forget their constant doublethink and attempts to redefine language so that you can't say their propaganda is double-plus-ungood.

>>16715780

>Creating videogames, even personally, will get outlawed in the next 10 years. Because of the risk of hate speech and "training right wing terrorists"

You're under the impression we won't be burning alive under the heat of a nuclear wasteland.

>>16715658

Having played Lightning returns, I am going to call complete and utter bullshit.

>>16715804

>Apple

>with their super overpriced products

>working at a lost

Citation needed. They have to be incredible incompetent if that is true, but then again, it wouldn't exactly surprise me.

>>16715871

The companies are bloated as fuck, but saying they are doing badly right now, not really. Still very overvalued.

EA's getting called home to hell in 2020, it doesn't matter how much money fortnite makes or memes it mangles and spews.

it's gonna get nailed to the wall in the US for trying to sue belgium for legislating against their lootboxes then try to justify them as an ethical trade.

i bet this is gonna spread to cards aswell, MTG's artificial scarcity scam with the black lotus card basically popularized the concept of Pay-To-Win as a means of gaming games to extort exorbitant prices from people by creating artificial scarcity to create an over-valuing due to the card power in the game creating a high demand.

>>16717720

Fortnite is not EA's.

>>16717769

I think he meant Apex.

>>16717773

no, EA wanted fortnite, they got apex.

Triple A got over-inflated on an unsustainable business model.

Obviously if you exploit your customers for long enough they get pissed.

If you don't make interesting, innovative games people will lose interest and your profits will shrink.

>>16717720

lootboxes are gambling slot machines targeted at children. They should be illegal everywhere.

Gaming is bigger than Loliwood right now, and you know how long that cesspit has been pumping out garbage before people got mildly turned off by it. Younger audiences are less likely to take shit, but with massive amounts of gaming money exchanging hands every day it'll take definitely longer than three years for it to seriously hurt. My guess would be the latter half of the 2020s.

>>16717815

Yeah but movies only turned people off with garbage propaganda. They don't also try to charge you an extra dollar a minute to see the second half of the movie.

>>16717810

>Triple A got over-inflated on an unsustainable business model.

>Obviously if you exploit your customers for long enough they get pissed.

>If you don't make interesting, innovative games people will lose interest and your profits will shrin

If any of this were true every huge faggy AAA publisher/dev would have went out of business 20 years ago, because they were doing the exact same shit they are now 20 years ago, minus the microtransactions

>>16715557

Nope. I hope Valve Software goes bankrupt for only making DOTA2 for the Chinese Market for almost the last decade and not caring about anything else.

>>16717831

It was sustainable for 10 years but their games have gone too far.

Video games won't crash. Instead they will be regulated by the US government as legal gambling requiring always online log-ins tied to your bank account to play. Even for single player games. The exception would be for games to be released with absolutely no expansion content requiring the base game to play (dlc) and no in-game cash shop where you spend real money to buy anything. There might be a loop hole for virtual gambling if you can't buy virtual tokens with cash at all. Though vittual gambling might just be banned from non AO all together.

In fact it wouldn't surprise me if US companies decide to go full fledged online gambling once the regulations fall into place. There are more people with more money willing to throw away money at gambling then there are people who play video games. That said there's going to be a ton of video games that will have to close down their cash shops. Console Minecraft (you buy Minecoins to get texture packs), Roblox, Fortnite, WoW, and among others will have to restructure their games to either be gambling free or they will be legally required to check every single account of every individual to confirm they are legal gambling age with a paper trail to prove it. This is what US companies are afraid of. Getting caught pants down with millions of kids playing on what the governent will declare adult-only gambling services.

However that is if and only if the courts make this decision. There's going to be a massive legal battle between corporations and lawmakers to prevent this. Lawmakers (and Silicon Valley) also want this as a power grab to secure digital identity as a legal requirent to ban anonymity in all digital forms of communication. But forced digital identity is for another board on another day.

>>16717849

Their games went too far 10 fucking years ago

>>16717811

so are sports and CCG cards.

artificial scarcity of a manufactured good restricted solely to increase the value fraudulently.

it's the same irregardless of the good/service being used as a carrot.

>>16717831

>because they were doing the exact same shit they are now 20 years ago

no they aren't.

games lasted upwards of 500+ hours in the RPG genre back then, now they're lucky if they make it to 7 hours.

less content less gameplay but prettier isn't a higher value product and the current failure of these studios in the stock market shows how they've traded-in on their own brand with predatory practices and fraudulent trades.

>>16715660

>DFO

Woah, people playing good games now?

>>16715662

Different companies, have different cost control and tax management efficiency, so if we want to look at the game itself and not the company, then revenue is good tbh.

>>16715660

CrossFire is still a thing?

>>16717811

>lootboxes are gambling slot machines targeted at children. They should be illegal everywhere.

Spoken like true """"liberal"""" commie freedom hater. Gambling should be free from any regulation.

But. If commies liek you introduced antigambling laws they should be applied universally to all form of gambling including lootboxes.

>>16717920

>artificial scarcity of a manufactured good restricted solely to increase the value fraudulently.

There should be amde distinction between artificial scarcity (cash shops) and artificial scarcity offered via random value (gambling)

>>16717920

>now they're lucky if they make it to 7 hours.

>what is MMORPG

>>16718340

>what is MMORPG

A dead genre, runescape died over a decade ago and nothing is left, like RTS or skating games its dead for good

>>16718946

>A dead genre

FFXIV would defy that point. It's doing pretty well. But it is exceptionally polished and well made.

>>16719017

As an addendum, the idea of catering to spontaneous consumers falls directly in line with the increase in pozzed content in video games throughout this decade. Yes, propaganda is one of the reasons why this happens, and jews aren't known for thinking too far ahead, but it IS a marketing strategy, towards three particular groups that usually falls very easily to virtue signaling: women, children, and faggots. These are the most spontaneous consumers you could possibly have; women are much more likely to buy something based on emotions alone, children are easily impressionable and pozz makes them feel rebellious, and faggots will support anything that has rainbow flags in it, regardless of how bad it is (on top of them being mentally ill and using consumerism as a mean to fill in the void in their hearts and minds).

>>16719017

>>16719030

Very insightful, anon. I hope you're right about an eventual AAA crash.

>>16719017

>That crash happened almost exclusively to the console market in the US, while PC games continued to grow, especially in Europe

Both PC games and Europe were insignificant markets, and continued to be insignificant for decades after. This point keeps getting brought up as if it fucking matters, but it doesn't.

>and arcades boomed in Asia.

This isn't insignificant. So look at what happened. The American industry, which was previously dominated by American companies, was completely taken over by Japanese companies making games that arguably had a different style to American ones. To be fair, you did touch upon this in your post. I'm only trying to expand upon your legitimate point. A few American third party companies managed to survive and have a few games here and there, but it took almost 20 years for any American company to be a leading force in the market again (Microsoft), and look, they immediately jewed it up and introduced most of the practices we're complaining about in this thread.

>>16719412

>Both PC games and Europe were insignificant markets, and continued to be insignificant for decades after.

I wouldn't call it insignificant. Small, but not insignificant. It managed to show that there was some demand for actual good games and people willing to make them. I admit though that PC gaming really didn't take off until Doom came out. Still, it was small and managed to actually thrive despite the size. I agree with what you say about American companies though, and frankly it's starting to look like we will see a repeat of what happened, with Japanese devs taking over once again. Then again, it never seemed like the nips lost their edge, except for maybe Capcom and Konami, but most of the biggest successes and actual critical acclaims were for nip games.

>>16719674

and gamefreak; don't forget that gamefreak lost their edge too

>>16719772

I think you're overestimating how much money is being spent less

it's still enough to keep most afloat.

who says it hasnt happened allready? Western AAA devs are so creatively bankrupt that they cant fart out one good game. even indie secene is on dawnward spiral. This year i have seen 3 or 4 good indie games, five years ago it would have been 10 good ones.

AA is where good shit is, even if game disopoints, you can still see passion and art. So there is some life in this hellscape that is game industry.

>>16720260

Such is the future if the Internet is allowed to continue to exist.

>>16719900

> Western AAA devs are so creatively bankrupt that they cant fart out one good game

Fortnite.

>>16715568

This. Normalcattle will keep eating whatever is fed to them for the foreseeable future.

>>16719820

Most of the time it's some other "workhorse" franchise/product that HASN'T gone to shit that allows a company to keep going, even if it's other games are abject failures like is the case for just about every company.

The only way you're gonna get away from that is if basically every company is a Gamefreak or a Mojang that has really only 1 series to their name, or people boycott entire companies line ups for ONE bad product.

The thing is the "le NORPie nigger cattle" don't do that because the other products are serving them well and their life doesn't revolve around one thing to stew on.

>>16720283

>>16720324

>Oh no some idiots might spend money on things they don't need to because they can get it online.

>I know let's destroy the thing that has allowed information to travel at high speed allowing more sensible people to better educate themselves/make it harder to have kosher sources of information.

>I will say this while using the thing I want destroyed.

Nigga_you_got_1_INT.bmp

>>16719893

Yes, a tiny niche market is insignificant. Sometimes niche products can have influence, but the amount of people actually playing was infinitesimally small.

>Hey guys! The PC and European markets didn't crash at all! Those eight people kept buying the same number of games they were buying before! No, the biggest company in the world, as well as all their competitors, going bankrupt is totally the same as a few hobbyists here and there!

Also, RPGs were a niche genre in the west until the late '90s. I know this is hard for you to believe, since you weren't alive at the time and get your information from le ebin youtubers screaming about expensive collectable RPGs for their "artistic" storytelling, but most of those games sold like dogshit here at the time, hence why so many of them are so rare and expensive.

Sonic made Sega a household name. Maybe it was a household name in Europe before that, but only because NES distribution was fucked over there so nobody had the superior option. Anyone who had the superior option took it. That's why anyone in America who had a Master System was basically seen as an idiot who got duped out of playing any of the games people actually wanted to play. It was the equivalent of buying an Ouya. Only imagine you're a kid so you could probably only get one system.

>>16720936

<NES vs Master System

Better music > more colors

Better games > worse games

<SNES vs Genesis

More colors < Better music

Worse games < Better games

>>16715658

Nobody uses the tweet functionality. as a matter of fact it is remembered as the worst patch ever

>>16720712

>Normalniggers consumed shit back then, they're still consuming shit now and they'll still be consuming shit in the future

pretty much this, the ride will never end, maybe I should start making poor quality shit for norm… no, I'm not there yet

>>16721085

>games recently

idk, the most recent I've played is Divinity Original Sin, and it came out 2014

Cumpillers aren't even debating the fact that normalniggers will keep AAA afloat for all eternity. It's like they know the sad truth that the rest of us do. We are literally the only people on the planet not buying the kikes' shit. We lost basically.

>>16721085

Insurgency influenced the newest Cowadoody.

Arma 2 and 3 are literally the reason PUBG and Battle Royal exist.

Dark Souls influenced a ton of modern 3D Metroid level design.

And so on

>>16721146

>Replying

>>16721149

>dork souls

<3D metroid design

?

>>16721152

people will always reply to shit posts the same way people will always buy shit games,

>>16721067

That didn't happen you stupid faggot, they were popular for fucking decades for arcades.

>>16721241

>>16721228

Fucking hell.

>>16721239

>That didn't happen you stupid faggot

For consoles?

Yes it did

>>16721255

nigger sega was well known prior to the age of consoles. what you said is essentially as retarded as the statement

Hey Did you know?? Namco became super popular because of the title PacMan World selling well in [Region].

Hint: Pacman World is a TWENTIETH ANNIVERSARY GAME

I honestly don't know if the business model is sustainable, but normalfags will buy shit. The shit is always franchises that they recognize, especially when brand loyalty develops. The biggest cash cows are sports games, they will always be purchased by the most normalfag of normalfags into sportsball, which is a huge number on an international scale. For all we know, it won't be enough, but time is all that can tell of what will happen to the industry.

>>16721422

>I honestly don't know if the business model is sustainable

it always has been, just look at literally any other product produced, people gravitate towards the worst low quality shit even though higher quality products can be bought cheaper and are more effective

>sports games

is there any way to fuck over EA and their sports games?

>Mark deleted the uncomfortable truth again

Like clockwork

>>16721449

This. AAA kikes have discovered the key to immortality. The entire medium of vidya belongs to them now.

>>16721499

no, i mean every other product since the dawn of time has went with the same business model and the companies that produce those products only go out of business if some serious shit happened like a war, terrorist attack, scandals, golf rumors,etc

There is literally no point in bitching about AAA or muh collapse because it wont come untill everyone falls for the VR meme.

If games are so shit nowadays the only solution is to make our own non kiked games, you know like all those AA devs 20 years ago

>>16721449

>people gravitate towards the worst low quality shit even though higher quality products can be bought cheaper and are more effective

This only occurs because they don't realize there are better options. Marketing is very important.

The thing is, media trust is at the lowest its been in decades and that also goes for marketing attempts. People are tired of being patronized and told their politics are valid by a corporate entity that couldn't give two shits what you believe so long as you buy.

>>16721548

no, it only occurs because they have shit taste, its not like they dont know good games exist its that they're contempt with playing the shittiest ones over and over, like WOW or ASSFAGGOTS

>>16719017

>Normalfags may be clueless, but I don't think they're stupid. Even the niggerest of normalniggers won't fork over their money just to get a laser dot on their virtual gun.

The simple existence of gacha games proves you wrong.

>>16721149

>>16721158

He means Dark Souls created a lot of clones. Dark Souls was a big breakout hit for Fromsoft which had been making decent, but niche, games, like King's Field and Echo Night for years. Demon's Souls before it was a cult classic and when Dark Souls came out on PC it was right smack in the middle of the streamer craze where hundreds of thousands of drones would buy whatever their favorite streamer appeared to have fun playing.

>>16722353

We still see you, just because you don't redtext, kike. You're not demoralizing anyone, you're only making people more committed to destroying this disgusting status quo. Kill yourself. Before anons get sick of your shit and do it themselves

>>16722380

No need to reply to the kike, they won't stop lying until they've taken their last breath.

I think small scale AA games are gonna take over.

Games are stupidly easy to develop nowadays with ready made engines like UE4 or Crysis.

An amateur dev like Warhorse can make Kingdom Come, it makes no sense that something like CoD cost hundreds millions to make.

>>16715568

The "crash" was as big as it was because videogames weren't as widespread as they are now and were primarily an enthusiasts' market. Now that vidya is mainstream you'll have inclines and dips which result in the closure of many studios like what happened in the beginning of seventh gen but nothing will be as major as "the crash"

>>16723237

>that webm

Amazing how they can't even pretend to give a shit anymore. I remember a few years back that there was some drama with one of those soccer games of EA too because everything internally of one version was identical to the previous year's one, the only thing they changed was swapping players from the teams.

>>16723300

They're only now trying a bit with an actual new engine after diminishing returns.

Even with shittons of DLC and microtransactions Actikike can't do 7th Gen numbers.

>>16723300

Little Timmy wanting to Play Fortnite on his phone instead of Cowadoody on his Xbawk sure doesn't help their case.

>>16723175

>Where is the company getting the money from?

Normalfags are keeping them afloat. Your definition of "no one buying the games" is only making two millions instead of ten. It's easy to make up stupid shit if that's the basis of your reasoning. Employing strawman to make the obvious look ridiculous doesn't help your case.

>>16723237

>EA uses Frosbite in all it's games to save up in licensing costs and asset creation, it doesn't matter if it doesn't fit the game a dev is trying to make, if the dev knows how to work with it well or if the engine is broke , they'll use Frosbite because EA saves money while doing so.

it makes sense to use frostbite since it's quite powerful. you also forget "cheaper" includes possible legal fees, just ask yourself, would you want to depend your whole multi million dollar investment on a company like epic games?

you can't also blame frostbite for devs being shit. remember bioware bitching about "3rd person is haaaaaaard", never mind that shit was already in bf3?

in the end EA plays itself, the money they save on licensing and good devs is still wasted because the final product will be shit to the point no one buys it.

>>16724165

>I'm not sure about the collapse.

it won't collapse, just shrink. with the 4-5 big players merging or getting bought out to form 1-2 xbox hueg companies, which means even more focus tested committee approved shovelware.

in the end it's a luxury, when everything goes to shit to the point people can't even buy food or afford a place, or even internet, the last thing they gonna pay for is microtransactions. and since that model is already unsustainable it will only get worse.

>>16724285

Well, there are already talks of disney or apple buying out activision/blizzard, you know, cause we need these 2 companies having an even bigger monopoly on things

I think people are thinking more about the reality they live in, period. Ever since St. Tarrant did his holy work, I've heard very hot opinions on rapefugees and how white countries should stay white as a whole from people who never talked about politics, so I can definitely see more and more people opting out of games, or at least normalfag AAA games, as things get worse, and they will definitely get worse. Problem is, for these microtransaction games, all it takes is a few whales spending money like it's nothing to make the whole system worthwhile, as long as they are able to spend hundreds of dollars on random cosmetics and other garbage, the devs will keep including anti-consumer features like it, in every possible kind of game

With the UK saying that "surprise mechanics" are not gambling, AAA will live forever. They're immortal now.

>>16724328

That's not how that works, since it was debated in the first place and the issue itself hasn't dropped or become better. The UK itself is suffering from loads of social issues, so when the bomb blows on that there's going to be across the board changes when the populace finally has enough. It's either civil war or change, they know this.

>>16724328

On top of that a bribe and a verdict put out by the state that goes against the will of the people damages the parties who are currently in power, so when the next election hits and someone else gets into office, like it happened in America, the place will face sweeping changes.

>>16724366

>>16724368

I fucking hope so anon. Any idea if their new PM will do anything? Is it a sign of things to come over there?

>>16724375

nothing ever changes. it's all just one spiral downward until something pops, we all kill each other for a bit, then rest and repeat. we've been doign this same song and dance our entire history

>>16724475

What does this prove, exactly? Most people join shit like this and forget about it, steam groups aren't political groups.

>>16724487

*luck

>>16724475

it's one thing to buy a game that was actually "good", it's another to cut out story mode entirely and fill the gap with countless micro transactions instead. many cod fans are actually not playing the game, it has less people playing it than any other cod game before it, and many cod players are playing other mainstream trash instead, like

>fortnite

the yearly sports games, whatever else normalfags actually spend their money on. MW2 boycott isn't exactly accurate here, because MW2 is still the most played game of all time, people simply had to admit they were wrong, BO4 is just plain shit and it doesn't take a genius to see why, just look at my pic I posted, any idiot can see why one would be disappointed by paying 15 dollars on a few lootcrates and a weapon skin only available on one gun they don't even like(and that they have to pay extra to unlock, or grind to unlock everything "bit by bit"

>>16724489

most played PC cod game of all time, I mean, and anybody here can tell you what hype this game had at the time, too

>>16724498

yup. only ones who are keeping the cod franchise afloat now are the whales and the zombies players, and treyarch is offing the "original" zombies cast in the next map, and "finishing that story for good"(altho they said this before), so it is believed that many people will not even bother buying any other cod games afterwards, as the story they cared about is finished. Even then, people who play it for multiplayer are tired of it, not enough is given to the to incentivize them to "keep playing", especially if the new cod plays more or less like R6 siege more than the older titles, it just encourages them to move of and play those other titles instead

Activision is in deep shit with this IP, they will probably milk it for all it's worth, then throw it away like they did with guitar hero and rock band. It should also be noted that they also hired tencent to make a mobile tie in to black ops 4 that basically is the same game, but instead using characters and maps from older games, to create a sort of "crossover" to tug at that nostalgia money. No escape from the chinks

>>16723979

So in your estimation, how long do you suppose the current AAA kikes will be able to harpoon whales before collapse? Not counting their (((funding))) that is.

>>16716848

It's almost entirely 1984 (with a little bit of Camp of the Saints mixed in). It looks like BNW to people like us because we're not Party members, we're proles and no one gives a shit about us except when we start fucking with the Party. The book focused on the life of the Outer Party and if you're in real-world academia or politics it is pretty much exactly like that except the enforcement mechanisms pretend to not be part of the government.

>>16724285

>it makes sense to use frostbite since it's quite powerful.

FWIW, the Bioware leak suggests that Frostbite is terrible to work with.

>>16719017

Why are you so deluded anon?

>>16728059

to be honest, the whole appeal of most of these newer games is playing them NOW, as they are either online only, or major components of them depend on online features, people want to get that "online experienceTM" NOW, as the community will be dead or the servers might get shut down if you buy it in the future, and even then, if you compare these games on day 1/launch to that point in time, in the future, it's night and day, that's the thing with games like battlefield and cowadooty, even fallout 76, what you said only applies to single player games, which most likely you will play once, as there is no replayability to them

>>16715557

>>Fallout 76 finally pushed corner cutting and microtransactions too far and its dead

People not only bought the game, but also their shitty plastic bag. Doesn't matter if the game died if it was an asset flip anyway.

>>16720936

Dude I like a few Master System games, but it's not even comparable. Anyone who gave a shit developed for NES because that's where the market was.

>>16721067

Having influence over a tiny market produces very little benefit for a company. Sega's arcade division was much more important. Master System success in Europe was just barely enough to keep them trying to make a console that would actually be a real success, and not just a success in a market that was essentially third world (note that Brazil was lumped in earlier. Because that's what the European market was at the time).

>tries to say calling it niche is bad by pointing out that it was actually a niche of a niche

Okay. Thanks for proving my point that it was an incredibly small market.

I also specifically pointed out that niche products have an influence. You repeating something I already said isn't invalidating my point. My point is that saying only a tiny niche was unaffected doesn't dispute the fact that Atari was the biggest company in the world, and they and all of their major competitors quickly went out of business.

>>16728391

>no replayability to single player games

Try playing good single player games, you humongous faggot.

Fuck modern western video games.

>>16724591

Since (((their))) funding is involved I have no clue, though I would hazard if the games industry had to purely rely on whales they would've surely put them on the endangered list by now.

problem is they arent built to last, Japan builds brands that last forever

like Nintendo is constantly cranking out entirely new games, not just spinoffs, not just dlc, entirely new games, full sequels

and they have incredibly close relationships to their communities, CEOs of these companies are taking it personally, like cutting salaries for themselves during bad years

>>16731192

To be fair, with something like SL, you can exchange real money for virtual funbux both ways. Thus, you have people creating (or "creating," i.e. ripping models and uploading them) shit, selling it for virtual currency, then exchanging that for real money. In that regard, it's really no different from traditional currency exchanges.

Contrast with something like the Steam Marketplace, where once you put money into it, you can never get it back out, and it's permanently stuck within Valve's ecosystem. But even then, the Steam funbux can be transferred to different items and used for other trades or purchases. It's not like the cosmetic shit sold in games like Overwatch or Fortnite where you're literally just paying to unlock stuff. And then on the most egregious end of the scale are the pay-to-win games.

It'll probably get worse, so I hope you like old games.

>>16715660

ohh my fucking god no. How is Crossfire still a thing? Holy shit that game ate ass like years ago and it only got more cancerous over time.

>>16715568

>>16723288

you guys are fucking retarded if you think the video game industry will crash. Every normie is playing video games now, and guess what, they somehow enjoy those games. Have you guys seen any of the modern games? Wolfenstein, Doom and all the other games are so watered down I have no idea how people can play them. But normies love them.

>>16731192

I wonder what horrors 2020 will hold.

>>16731192

>>16737214

That pic on the right hasn't even taken into account Games As A Service slow release content and/or F2P type of games yet.

>>16719024

I like it anon.

people expect EA to collapse overnight like the Soviet Union or the Stock Market before the Great Depression. In reality, by the time you realize the crash has happened, people will already be talking about it in the past tense.

>>16719017

The only one that may survive in it’s current form is EA, because they struck gold by adding Panini gambling card packs for little kids into their game. And it only works with Panini gambling card packs for little kids, and even then it was *pffffft* a gamble because you can’t touch those cards ingame and that may have been a major shiny selling factor for those easily baited kids.

>>16738488

>Rockstar just recently released a casino update for gtaonline, where you can exchange cash for chips to bet on the slots and shit.

Just to clarify, they won't actually let you use "Shark Card" money to gamble. They will, however, let you use "Shark Card" money to buy a building that lets you have a part time job to earn money to gamble

>>16715660

I remember being part of the "bring back dfo" enthusiasts back then. Makes me feel kinda good, even though I no longer care about grinding games anymore.

>>16738714

$60 is still food for an entire week and then some. At most I can afford that sort of thing a couple times a year.

>>16738754

lmao what. $60 is half a day's work for me. wageslavery is suffering.

>>16738714

You have a point. 60$ for most games, many of them AAA included, is retarded, for starters; But Its preferible, and most cases cheaper, to spend that and not more, with maybe one expac, or DLC, than a cheap game and having 10 DLCs, and a microtransaction market. And it doesnt help that most devs dont bother to make Gold Edition/Packs of their games lately. I mustn't be the only one who had toke notice of it, that there are games that been out for long, have lots of DLC and shit; And yet there is not correctly priced pack or edition of the game with all stuff included. But no, instead, you gotta spend like 80-100$ on a game to get all that shit, regardless if the game is 6+ years old, or dead.

>>16738911

This is very evident in the Total War games. Never completed edition.

They know that selling the DLC separately net them more money, greedy kikes.

>>16715602

> the next step in jewery is turning gaming into a social platform

> he doesn't remember the huge amount of facebook games that literally worked that way and pissed of normalfags to no end.

there's also zero point for casuals spending money on it and "influencers" get that shit for free half the time as advertisement.

<MUH collapse.

you mean the shit that's already happening with certain genres and gametypes being fucking unfeasible (funding experimental games that might blow up big is risky so investors hate it) and everybody desperately jumping onto the "safe" mobile/gaas meme to extract money out of their sheep customers - and with hardly any success since mobile is volatile as fuck and if "gamers" spend money on one game they play for weeks/months they hardly pay for another (as seen with wow subs), if they even play other shit to begin with.

>>16738347

Mostly Negative still means that a shitload of people bought it.

>Alternate History

wew… at least they fucking tag it.

>>16739649

>>16739657

To be honest you both sound like twitterbots.

>>16742589

He’s calling newspapers dead.

>>16742589

He's saying that newspapers were something people classified as "could never die" and those are dying so that means AAA gaming can also die.

He's a retard because the only reason newspapers are dying is because a better more convenient alternative arose. (The internet)

>>16738347

I have this strange un-researched feeling that Machine Games and Arkane Studios are quietly downsizing and that is why their recent stuff has been short, rushed and largely full of fanfiction.net writing. That and Fallout being used as a punching bag for Todd to try out new ideas without touching his sacred cows Starfield and TES6.

>>16742538

Newspapers aren't dead, they were able to capture the e-market. All normalnigs I know, past the age of 40, buy multiple newspapers a week. If they're not reading that, they're on some kind of news app.

>>16744420

>give game away for free

>make billions from microtransactions

Can't blame them really.

>>16744452

It was sold for a budget price.

>>16744452

Game was $40 anon. A AA title for all intents and purposes.

>>16715602

The game industry already does that and has since at least the PS3. HL2DM would do it. It's only downhill from here as profits have peaked, since even the stupidest consumers are out of money.

It's not going to crash, it's more profitable than ever and is reaching Hollywood levels of too big to fail.

>>16744660

But Hollywood did fail. All the major film studios and channels are owned by ISPs while smaller ones simply drop dead. The digital broadcast transition sped this along, as did California removing subsidies to pay their debts. It's still profitable, but content is made for export and nobody consumes it outside of soyboys who buy all the merch. Disney is the lone survivor and only because most of their business isn't film.

>>16719772

It will end when Normal fags grow a brain and stop putting money into this shit, so never.

>>16744923

>Normal fags grow a brain and stop putting money into this shit, so never.

yeah, only real solution is waiting till they simply don't have money for that shit in the first place.

>>16715589

Haven't we been saying this since 2015?

>>16716083

>Even Cr1TiKaL of all people made a video on the topic (he got the obvious "everything is political" as a response, because of course that's what would happen)

And some soyfuck just had to throw a response totally not defending it.

>>16717590

Very optimistic of you to assume we'll even see a chance of that happening before and maybe soon after 2022.

>>16745025

That "soyfuck" is totally right though. Also he has a girlfriend, unlike any of you incel fucks.

>>16745041

Hi Critikal

>>16745041

I really want to call you a fucking faggot for that girlfriend incel bullshit, but you're not wrong either.

Cr1TiKaL has gone beyond full cuck and he deserves to be shit on for it, and whoever the fuck that guy is tears him up.

>>16745080

Damn right comrade

>>16745073

Hey man

>>16745086

>comrade

Well now I realize you're just shitposting.

cr1itikal is still a fucking fag who never should have revealed his face and gained an ego the size of Jupiter.

>>16745080

His humor never was better then a C-grade AVGN ripoff. SHITTY DICK NIPPLES XDDD POOPY DICK SEX BUTT

>>16745092

Vaush, get the fuck off your lazy fat ass. You autistic homo.

>>16745093

Never said he was top quality, he wasn't a turbocuck either though.

>>16745096

I think I misinterpreted whoever you were trying to defend.

They're both soycucks,so it's hard to tell.

>>16745099

>oy vey im totally not vaush oy gevalt

Fat jew.

>>16745115

You're fat.

It will crash because the whole economy will. 2008 was a joke compared to what's coming.

>>16745125

I wonder what techfags will do if something economically catastrophic actually happens and they have to go without electricity for an extended period.

>>16744675

Disney's modern business model, which they've slowly transitioned into over the last 25 years, is to buy up successful companies and then hope they buy up another successful company to keep them going before they ruin the previous successful company. It's not sustainable long term, and they're becoming more and more aggressive with it. They're destroying more and more companies that they're paying billions and billions of dollars for. Their only hope now is that with the Fox acquisition, which is obviously so big that it's pretty different from everything else, they can basically transition into a rights holding company and then fight a losing battle against piracy by trying to be the next Netflix.

>>16745130

I suppose we'll see if they're actually techfags and can improvise, or if they were just really, really good at working off the efforts of actual techfags.

>>16745148

I wish they'd buy up all the big video game companies and run them into the ground, this slow rot is maddening.

>>16717584

He's still gonna post regardless.

>>16747351

That doesn't mean you should shit up the thread by replying.

I have this hunch that AAA publishers are slowly, but subtly, making a transitioning towards mobile platforms exclusively and will eventually completely abandon the current AAA model they're known for. There's a subtle trend that seems to point in that way. Modern AAA games are nearly mobile games with better graphics. Its seems like they're in the final stages of squeezing gamers for what they're worth before moving onto greener pastures.

>>16747397

Not to him, though.